Endgame gears are just for whale and no life player to sink in their time and money. If only ppl realize you don't even need them to clear any of the game contents. People would enjoy the game more.

@BiceptimusPrime

2 ай бұрын

Always has been!

While I see where you're coming from, I think I have to disagree. The silver inflation is certainly going up however so are the cron stones cost. And since cron stones are the only thing currently roadblocking late game gear progression, PA cannot continue to reduce % success chance. Especially since they just implemented the failstack floor. You cant realistically have Tet or Pen FG weapons with a 0.01% enhancement chance while still maintaining a "fail X times for guaranteed enhancement". And in the end, does it really matter if silver inflation goes up when even with infinite silver you cannot buy a pen FG armor? You will have to enhance these items themselves. I really dont see what would could possibly change in the future that would allow you to realistically suceeded with a 0.01% enhancement. Maybe they just start giving out 1000 FS? 🤣

@MrVort33x

2 ай бұрын

With infinite silver you can buy pen FG armor. It costs you 1000x the price of crons (3mil - 1cron) from tet.

@HalobravoJJGaming

2 ай бұрын

You know that the pity for Pen FGA is 1000 right? They can have the guaranteed enhance and just have a super high amount of fails like they already do.

I see the paint infographic and i am convinced

@BiceptimusPrime

2 ай бұрын

Paint never lies!

i dont realy care about enchance , what i am interested is like how we can get these fallen god weapons ? it will be c10 boss weapon or pen bs ?

I really enjoy your perspective because you don't sensationalize or fear change, and you have a rational approach. And you remain positive about the game that has brought us all together and made us so many friends. I finally subbed.

I definitely feel this coming. it makes sense and they're keeping the same system thats already imbued in the game. Im excited to see what comes

I think we know why they added more decimal places to the enhancement chance window now.

Seems the next step. I would believe it!!

If they actually have fallen god weps like you mentioned i think they will distribute the stats around to be balanced through so it can reach wailing and not be crazy. Seems weird for all gear to be softcaped at wailing and just have weps at silent

How can others do 3b/hr nowaday meanwhile I'm still stuck 900m/hr on 720gs.

@SauceGoblin225

2 ай бұрын

You’re definitely doing something wrong if that’s the case. What are you grinding?

@addminustraitor8514

2 ай бұрын

@@SauceGoblin225 Yzrahid but I'm usually watch something while grinding.

@lifekrysiss

2 ай бұрын

go tungrad ruins, 3b is a joke there.

@narkoka

2 ай бұрын

I’m 718 and you definitely pull more then 1b/hour if you always once cycle the leg. It’s more like 1,25/h and that’s not counting the kabua artifact full drop. But yea it’s not 3b or nowhere close, do I need to go Tungrad ruins for more silver per hour?

@TrueBark

2 ай бұрын

Guessing he is talking about lantern ash and selling enhanced debos, thats around 3b. Best money ingame.

will you need kzarkas or offins to go fallen god weapons tho?

If I had to guess thru my bdo years in order to get a pen fallen god weapon would to do a gruesome grindy quest 😩

I guess tet fallen god weapons will be the end game pvp and pve end game gear like how tets armor are

mmm instead of changing the alch stone tapping, they just make all of the items take a hundred thousand+ clicks to get tbh doesn't sound fun if you turn out to be right

@Ingridaw

2 ай бұрын

there will always be that one jimmy that will one tap

@DrSwazz

2 ай бұрын

Not even the tuvala timmy’s are one-tapping pen fg weapons lol

judging by what we have now i think a fallen god weapon at tet will be equal to pen blackstar. then we probably get a long quest line for a free tet fallen god from jetina but the grind to enhance it will be insane.

I think its more likely that they just raise the amount of crons needed but keep the % below 10%, unless they literally don't plan on added any more weps in the game

Im predicting it's going to be more of a reform stone type system. Wouldn't make sense to give dyable blackstars if they were replacing them

@BiceptimusPrime

2 ай бұрын

What Blackstar Glow? :>

@FeatherMelody

2 ай бұрын

​@@BiceptimusPrime yeah. It's also supposedly coming from weekly guild bosses, so it's already a departure from normal fg. I think godr was originally intended to be the fallen god equivalent (considering it's also fallen God's name) I wouldbe very unsurprised if this ended up being a reform stone style upgrade like the alch stones that you can apply to godr / pen bs

the man went and made an nft right there

This is why im keeping all my caphras, of they only ask for a pen wep with c20, pen bs will go to the ground and caphras will go max price

I think the enhancement chance will be the same as fga. I hope they let us do boos weapons cause I gave up on V bs

I'm making a prediction. Resplendent Jade will be used in some form or fashion with these. Jade is one of if not thee most important ore in Koren history. Warding of evil to good luck. The fact that it does nothing rn but trade crates (at it's tier 2 production product) is insane to me! LoML 2, being Seoul "historicaly" will open interesting doors I'm they will use things like Jade and obsidian for really important things. Go look at how many Resplendent Jade is just sitting there. 🤔 Also missing so far is in ground, time fermentation. Huge af in Seoul, KR historicaly. I wonder if they are going to tack on some new systems into lifeskills.

Yoyo, realy good theorycrafting and i'm only agree with the value we have to spend...I think we'll get the same succeed chances on every enhancelvl as FGA, but with the value you've talked about🙂 Means, TRI FGW = PEN FGA (12TR EU Crons), TRI succedchance = ~10% = 1.2TR/click 😎

I think the best option is fgw need to be the boss weapon c10 or bs tet and every level increase 6 point of damage. Is only an opinion :.

I think you are right with the assumption that the weapons will be a lot harder then the armors. i remember when they introduced fg and tri was like insane. to get the base armor alone was endame. by the helmet, a lot of semi casual ppl like me got tri directly after the flame and some where even going for tet. so its save to assume they will ether have lower chance per level and/or much higher cron cost. but i dont think tri will equal pen fg. because pen is just such a huge step, they could just slot something in. around 1% for examle. and tet would be 0.1 with pen slightly harder at 0.01 for a higher fail stack. what could happen is, that ppl use pen fg to build the fail stacks for those weapons. rn, pen fg is a money sink. a hole for the ultra wealthy to hopfully dump their savings in. the pity system is a confirmation, that PA wants us to spend that money. but rn there is no need. the 3dr/4eva are bull shit. unless they release something above it where you need pen for (oh we know they will some day), its whatever. but say, you want a +500 fs for your tri or tet weapon, because the fs increase is just more efficent (aka higher chance, but redicules cron costs compared to pen fg) with failing pen fg, then thats a different story. we will definitly see ppl go for full pen fg armors. it just need to be cheaper than something else like weapons.

@DrSwazz

2 ай бұрын

Game is turning into a cron waiting room and it’s gonna be so boring

@mauriceelet6376

2 ай бұрын

@@DrSwazz Thats the good thing about eu, we dont need to wait for the smith.

300b/h doubt, but i can see us heading towards 5-10bil/hour in the near future

FGA/BS weapon enhancable with caphras

What you’re saying makes sense but yeah I agree with others I hope this doesn’t end up in the game. Even with the pity system, clicking something 1000 times seems miserable when crons are so annoying to get.

@BiceptimusPrime

2 ай бұрын

Yeah it is PA after all... "makes sense? Lets do something else!" Anything can happen =)

1) nobody is angry about FG armors at pen being hard to get, because DP does not matter in the end. with weapons it's different, so i expect PEN weapons to be accessible for everyone, that spends a lot of silver on it. 2) also we need a new use for caphras stones, or that market will min out for ever. so i would not be shocked if we need them to enhance the weapons 3) every enhancement of the weapon will give you at least +1 AP. so if biceptimus is right that would be 5 AP times 3 = 15 ap from the 3 new weapons. i think that's a bit too much to expect. 4) this does not fix the c20 and pen blackstar starting point problem, because of their different costs. a c20 needs to be at a lower starting point then the pen blackstar. so c20 would be base and blackstar would be duo or tri and you would have to spend 30-50 bil to upgrade your base to that blackstar level.

@Celibrimbor

2 ай бұрын

Probably why they added the anvil

Well hello there...

330ap cadry valks BATCHEST

sounds extremely unfun if the game isnt your actual job, which it is for you so cool man , the numbers in BDO are cringe , outfits are cringe to buy and vendor crons are poop , rare shits easy you end up done with everything and then need to grind a bazillion silver somewhere while you collect 80 pieces of one ring piece . or grind IRL and swipe :)

@Y4nkStyle

2 ай бұрын

Based.

@saviourly3186

2 ай бұрын

Sounds like MMOs aren't for you.

@Y4nkStyle

2 ай бұрын

@@saviourly3186 saying shit like this is just cringe. I didnt know u were looking for a second job instead a fun experiance on the evenings.

@Mad-marv

2 ай бұрын

While I also think buying vendor crons is shit, I dont think it should be easy or made for casuals. You dont actually need to push for tet weapons, it is not necessary for casual players. Just let me have my content and dont make it too easy for long time players. I also work full time and want goals to work towards in BDO. Sitting at hardcap is not fun.

@GORDOTONY13

2 ай бұрын

This game isnt for casual go play something else

whut u doing posting stuff at 5am

@BiceptimusPrime

2 ай бұрын

what you doing watching it?!?

Hope its caphrased to pen instead of enhancing 😅

With all respect but u are wrong, they won't make a new weapon just for it to be almost un upgradeable after duo It may be 3% but not less than that

just keep crons from now on, because the prices are never going to get down it'll only rise more and get the gear with silver, on the long run it'll be much more worth

When we are getting the fallen god weapon!?

@BiceptimusPrime

2 ай бұрын

with Land of morning light pt 2, which should be out in Korea this summer

pvp wise more ap makes evasion more viable which makes accuracy more viable, the cycle continues. BDO been doing fantastic work the last 2 years im keen for the future

my 2 cents: 1) C20 Boss alone technicly cannot be enough to make a Fallen god weapon. The price gap would be wayyyyyyyy to much, its like what, 90b for a C20 Dande but 140b for a BS? Thats way to much of a gap. Even on highest dande + caphra price and lowest BS price its still way to much. So i assume we gonna need some extra mats like blackstones to upgrade it. Maybe even a window like the PEN accsesory? 2) my first thought when i saw the numbers on PEN Fallen armours was, ah so they gonna give us either an alternative grind way OR a item to drop which boosts the % chance significantly. 3) In a way i dont think they gonna push the silver / hr all that much higher honestly. Instead, given the low % chances, i would not be surprised if they go down a "ember" path. Like get item XYZ and you can upgrade OR enjoy the RNG system. That way the anvil thingy would make more sense as well now since currently it basicly only procs with double the item cost. Reason being, i cant see them going down a RNG path with 0,01%´s when they acknowledged the problem with such a system ages ago. Its never fun clicking an item hundrets of times after all. Even IF we made 10T/hr, would someone rly be willing to spend hours after hours doing scrolls for memory fragments AND mindlessly click the same item over and over? Now on a ending note, i personly hope they go with the Nr.3. They build up such a nice path of progression, why stop it here.

Evasion warrior

FIRST!

they better buff bartering if this is how it's gonna be

where do you make 3bil/h?

@BiceptimusPrime

23 күн бұрын

Used to make that (and more) at Dehkia Ash and Tungrad Ruins before the market crashed. Atm im only doing around 2ish bil

@artyono9002

23 күн бұрын

@@BiceptimusPrime Okay, I though we speak about trash only. I dont count on market, you can get earring in 6hrs or you can get 6 earrings in 1 hour. That is gamble.

@BiceptimusPrime

23 күн бұрын

@@artyono9002 Nah, thats not how it works. You are doing it wrong, and your examble is also wrong. You have to look at average numbers over large sample sizes. Once you know the avg distribution of income from a grindspot, you can avg out your income over time to get rid of the highs and lows.

i can see your excitement , it sounds so bad though haha , dude like no one wants to slam 1000 times into not only 4 armors , but then 6 times for 3 diff weapons man , you really thing that sounds fun? sounds absolutely terrible , even if im making the silver bro ive clicked on global 1000 times and i needed a nap after repairing that much and shit

@BiceptimusPrime

2 ай бұрын

Yeah the actual, potential, 1k clicks is HORRIBLE. Having to type in the failstack each time too etc... Hopefully they make further adjustments to the system over the coming years

@scolamiero28

2 ай бұрын

@BiceptimusPrime I'd even be happier if it was a bit more like the mobile version where you can just keep feeding mats into it to increase the % , what caphras was supposed to be

This enhance system doesn't make any sense it will be probably the same as armors just higher prices on CM But yeah who knows... It's PA...

3:52 that would be a good point if the price of the items didnt adjust to the silver/h. The total amount of hours you need to get a meta bis items remains prety much the same throughout the games history, good try thought.

@BiceptimusPrime

2 ай бұрын

That is as wrong a statement as has ever been made for BDO. The avg time to get a PEN Debo right now, is a fraction of what it was when it was first added.

@DioLuki

2 ай бұрын

@@BiceptimusPrime you can say the same for pen kzarka. During pirates days it was harder during SE era easier. My point is during each meta you need to play the game the same hours to get the thing. Sure the time you need fluctuates when the era is about to change but if you want to be ahead of the curve you need to grind 100 to 300 hours to get the meta bis item.

@BiceptimusPrime

2 ай бұрын

@@DioLuki Ah, you mean when the next new BIS comes out, it will be like Debo were when that first came out? Yes, then i get what you mean my bad! Very true in that case. The important thing to remember though, is that all the previous bis items end up taking a fraction of time, so a new player never has to do the same amount. And things that are BIS now, will get easier over time even while they are bis, untill a new cycle starts of a new bis item. But, thats just what BDO is. Always has been, always will be. The endless grind continues!

@DioLuki

2 ай бұрын

@@BiceptimusPrime It's a good catch up mechanic for new players it gets a bit repetitive for the vets. Grind on brother!

i wish i made 3bil per hour.

Never ending grind, no thanks.

Why put items in the game that your player base can’t obtain?!?!?

your 2 - 3bill an hour is like 1.2 for the rest of us. Your counting everything that drops as currency where the rest of us end up keeping those cups, stones and other sh!7. Personally no im not looking forward to it its hard enough having a 1-5% chance to enhance a single piece of gear that Literally makes or breaks an entire build forcing you into a completely different AP Bracket which is the difference between 900m-1.2b an hour and 600m.

I can’t even hit pen BS

@NolalanD

Ай бұрын

next tap hits

I don't think it's the right way, the Pity system is for unlucky people who have exceeded the expected number of clicks that the company thought for the item and not as a system that will only get the item when you have enough clicks. The current game is not sustainable with hardcore mechanics like it used to be.

Who tf is grinding for 3 bil an hour

I think I officially quit. Not going through hell again to be behind on a wack enhancement system. Good luck everyone Double V Deboreka is where I end.

When there’s a less than 1% chance, this is the definition of wasting your life.

yeah I'm fine never playing the game again at this point. if only they'd focus on making some actual content

There is nothing so unimaginable. There is no point for this weapons ingame, they just dont have any content to add, and since there is only one set of gear ingame, they add such lvl of enchantment that are purly for fun, are not reasonable by any means. This is the most laziest and unforgiving way to make endgame content.

Ur video just made it worst. I was happy with the game getting to 700 gs but damn getting a IV, V FG and now weapons. The end game is gonna be for whales, youtubers and gamers with no job.

@sandrasanchez942

2 ай бұрын

700gs is late mid game / very early end game nowadays haha

No amount of silver or economic change matters, the .0001 has to go.

@BiceptimusPrime

2 ай бұрын

Dont disagree! As others has pointed out, really hope this isnt correct - the sheet amount of clicks needed even for PEN FG armor is ridicules, not even thinking about the cost here, just the raw amount of clicks.

Where the hell are you making 3b/h? NA players are delusional, I swear.

Never ending gambling. No thanks.

@LuluGamingDK

2 ай бұрын

But it's not never ending because the pity system guarantees that you will eventually get the best.

@kwoowoo828

2 ай бұрын

@@LuluGamingDK They kept adding new gear and let the dice roll anew again. $$$

Sounds like time to quit

Report.

What is this? so bad video :)

10mil/h was max? Damn people must have been flagging for grass beetle rotations! 🪲