For those of you asking about in game footage, it got corrupt during file transfer (power cut) and I'd already removed the shifter and packed it up to go back to BDH :(

Really good review Karl. Dave is a top guy and extremely passionate about his work and it really shows! I apprecated the opening comments too. It's important to call that stuff out and keep the industry accountable. Thanks for the video!

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Will! Dave and Billy are both great guys and very passionate as you say mate, they've made a great shifter and with more to come! :)

@BDHRaceSimHardware

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Will, very kind mate.

@DouglasThompson

3 жыл бұрын

@@BDHRaceSimHardware Hey. :)

The honesty, unbiased and also the clarity of your reviews are absolutely top dollar! This is the reason you are the only KZread reviewer that's had the chance to review this product! Thank you Karl 🏎🏁

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Billy! :)

Tottaly agree what you talk about the price, Its the same with the aiologs stuff. They are not greedy at all

I absolutely love mine Karl, I can only thank you for the honest review. For me this is as close to the real thing you can get!!!

I belive it's meant to be mounted with the mechanism towards the back, in order to not use the space for some other gear you might have in you rig, like a sequential or a handbrake, it's a well thought design.

What a gorgeous piece of engineering.

As soon as I heard about this shifter I knew it was the one for me. The competition is just a little too expensive to justify, where as the BDH falls in my budget for the quality and value. Im one the waiting list and will patiently wait for Dave to work his magic

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

You won't be disappointed! :)

Great review. I really like that you raised the issue of cost vs. pricing in sim gear. Perhaps the CSL DD and AliExpress H shifter are a sign of more reasonable pricing to come. I wouldn't be surprised to find that the CSL DD is cheaper to make than a belt-driven wheel (after all, it's actually mechanically simpler) especially given Fanatec's apparent control of their supply chain as evidenced by the fact they designed the motor rather than use an industrial motor. I'd also love to see someone address the question of rig engineering -- my feeling is that some rigs are actually over-engineered and designed without any real thought about the actual stresses and direction of forces; this could be another area prices could come down.

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

I have one of the Sim Hound smaller profile cockpits on it's way soon and that is about £300 I think so we'll see how something smaller but well designed works compared to my larger profile rig... manufacturers will often provide way over the top options just because there's always someone out there with a big enough wallet to buy it! lol

Two years on, this is still the best BDH review. Thank you.

@Edge6D

2 ай бұрын

no it is not, it is and it has been ridiculous, there is no direct connection with the clutch, neither hardware nor software blockage, hence ridiculous, you can shift in the most async way with the clutch, no hardware blockage. Time to update your conscience to the Bash pro shifter with active feedback

Good review Karl. I was one of the very lucky early owners of a BDH shifter, I've had one here from the start. I've built up a friendship with the team at BDH in a way I haven't with any other supplier of sim hardware. This is top notch British engineering as you correctly pointed out. It's more than simply just a great shifter, it's a thoroughly lovely piece of equipment to own and an absolute credit to the prowess of these engineers.

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

Spot on! :)

@BDHRaceSimHardware

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment Colin. much appreciated.

Christ, when a shifter costs the same as an ali rig you know its time to check out and save your wallet :P Jokes about my financial inadequacies aside though, it is clear that this is a piece of art and its developer is extremely talented and passionate.

I've been waiting this for so long mate, love it!

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you like it!

Great review Karl, I just got mine the other day and am delighted with it and agree it’s very similar to my MX5, it is a fair bit of money but now I have tried it I think it’s a bargain. Best compliment I can give it is when driving Lotus Cortina last night it felt real, bravo Dave

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear!

I think this shifter would be perfect to simulate the shifter of an Ferrari F40LM 😁

How the hell changes gears like that. Get into it son...!

Man like Dave

I love proper craftsmanship, this is definitely on my dream list because you just can't beat a proper H pattern for adding fun as well as immersion!

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

I agree mate, so much fun smashing through the gears! :)

Great review - Unfortunatly I just got fobbed off when I tried to buy one from them , first I went on their site , found they sell via distributers , checked the 2 UK distributers but they had no stock , approached BDH to ask if i could buy direct , got told to buy via a distributer so I actually made screen shouts of either no stock or no shipping to the UK from every distributer and emailed them over just to say hey , look I cant buy one from anywhere , theres no stock - got completely ignored so I ended up buying a Quaife shifter - Which is an awesome piece of kit .

Utmost respect to the dedication and hard work put into this piece of kit. Great video Karl thank you.

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

I feel like some customers and reviewers unfairly expect small businesses to offer the prices similar to the mass produced brands like Fanatec, without understanding that all the R&D costs for a smaller company have to be factored in to their RRP. Even Fanatec is a niche product. These independent, high end sim businesses are offering a niche within a niche.

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

This is very true mate!

@bazookabill9232

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! 👌👌

I love my 2002 Miata's shifter feel. Sounds like you sold me on this one at 22:00

I've wanted this shifter since I saw this review ages ago. Finally ordered one, it arrives tomorrow. Got it for my bday. Thanks for excellent review, you sold me on this one vs one of the other big $ shifter options. SHH shifter is being retired, but might live on as a dedicated sequential if I can find the room to mount it.

@KarlGosling

9 ай бұрын

Ah thats great mate, enjoy!

I've never felt the urge to say this, but that is a beautiful piece of engineering

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

It is!

You are such a breath of fresh air lad, this looks like a proper bespoke piece of engineering,. I only wish i could be in the market for one . Well done indeed and ai too would love to hear about the doo hickies inside, i had the joy of been driven in a rally prepared mk2 and never been the same, take it easy lad.

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Drizz, it is lovely! I wish I could show the insides but BDH want to keep their design close to their chest, which is fair enough.

Another brilliant review, much appreciated and it's good to see your channel grow. It would have been nice to see you demo it in game.

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I recorded some footage of me using it but it corrupt during file transfer (had a power cut), by this time I'd removed the shifter and packed it up ready to send back :(

@ty194

3 жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling Ah that's a shame, hopefully you'll have better luck next time. It was a stellar review aside from that anyway.

worth more than my entire setup lol. great review as always Karl.

what a peice of kit worth every penny im sure... still my missus just about understood my pc racer purchase ...based on your reviw about it! near fainted when she seen was a base and wheel only🤣 think i need secret savings lol

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

You would not be the first man with secret savings thats for sure! lol

Glad you got the gig Karl, surely down to you being a down to earth, no bullsh1t, decent bloke who can relate to simmer's everywhere 👍 and kudos to BDH for doing that 😉 As for the shifter itself, it's a work of art, the machining and assembly look incredible, and made in the UK as well!🇬🇧 the price prohibits it from me ever owning one,but for those lucky enough,...that is a wonderful piece of kit.

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate appreciate your words! :)

dude thanks for this review i think this is what iill be getting! and i agree sim racing premium parts are utterly expensive for no reason

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

Enjoy it mate! Yeah it's something that really gets to me as a consumer.

Great and op point review 👍 As always.

Been waiting for this review. I’d hoped it’d turn out to be as good as you’ve confirmed, Karl. Great review. Just wish I could afford one. Why’d I have three kids…😩

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

Mate i can't afford one and I don't have any kids! lol

This device looks like it takes a beer torpedo lol !! BDH = Beer Dispense Heaven !!

That is practically mechanical pron, and I'm feeling that there is a chance that having both that shifter and my girl in the same room could end badly [for my girlfriend] Seriously though, that is beautiful, and the machinists should be bloody proud of their creation. When I first saw it, I immediately thought MX5, although I'd set up mine with a dogleg first for that old Datsun Rally car feeling. I'm hoping that you'll be able to show off more mechanical art in the future, but meter it out slowly because I have concerns that my bank is going to go the hard NOPE sooner than I'd like. 10/10 for presentation and ingenuity. Fanatec, I hope you are paying attention, it's time to pull your collective fingers out, if the Podium 'kit' is in the works THIS is your competition! Top show, Karl. Well done mate. 👍🙃

its funny that this shifter is built in england but its design with the tension adjuster sticking out seems to favor being mounted on the right side, not gonna complain tho since i'm not english and i drive on the correct side of the road :D i will definitively check this out after upgrading my wheelbase

Looks interesting. I’m quite intrigued as to how it works and what’s going on inside all that metal (linkages, hall effect sensor, switches?) Also would be handy to see (or listen) to it in action balanced against the other rig input noises, perhaps over a few different tension settings - it’s hard to tell in isolation, but it seems pretty loud in your clip. Still, nice to see a bit of innovation and good build quality. I hope it does well.

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not allowed to show whats inside, BDH want the design kept to themselves. But yes it is pretty loud high tension similar to that of a gearbox in a stripped out race car, you don't hear it over the engine/game sounds though. They are all sold out ahead of time and have been since launch last year so doing really well! :)

I have one and it is amazing. Just amazing

Looks awesome, wish I used a shifter more often, would love an excuse to have this mounted on my rig, its that good looking.

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

I wish I used a shifter less often then I wouldn't need £800 to buy one! lol But it does look good bolted to our rigs! :)

That is beautiful!!! Could not help noticing the csl dd set up on what looks like your Omega cockpit. If you know someone at GT headquarters, any ideas on when GT Omega will have some replenished stock? Everyplace I check in Canada is always sold out…

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

Isn't it! :) Yeah it's on my GT Omega Titan. I don't have any inside knowledge of stock right now mate sorry.

i like your reviews. thanks

Great product and great review. Would've been nice to see it in action - a clip of you using it so we can see how easy it is to use, how it sounds, etc while it's actually mounted.

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

Footage got corrupt during file transfer (power cut) and I'd already removed it and packed it up to go back to BDH :(

@imanny99

3 жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling sorry to hear that

Great review Karl 👍

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

hand crafted great

Hmm looks like a great upgrade to my g29. Great review as always

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely is! :)

I'm really glad to see someone calling out the manufacturers of some high end pedals for how inflated their prices are. This looks like a great piece of kit - sadly way beyond what I'd be able to spend on a shifter, but it's good to know that the money is going on genuine engineer time and not just into the pocket of someone who has assembled some off the shelf pieces.

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

It's something that really gets to me, specially as I install those products (hydraulic pedal boxes from the likes of Wilwood, Tilton, Girling etc) to cars in real life and they cost a fifth of the price in some cases! Adding a USB interface with a load cell or pressure sensor does not warrant another £1500!! lol

Enjoyed watching the review 👍🏻, good comprehensive overview that shows the products strengths well. If only you could remember the name of the racer…

@strattwanger

3 жыл бұрын

I'll give him a clue, Karl this guy races a Caterham with an MX5 gearbox in it. 🤔🤣

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry Blair!!! lol

Now that is quality !

What a beautiful piece of sim racing art. I have HPP JBVs, a Jinx sequential shifter and the ProSim. None of which use off the shelf parts…as far as I know. All are hand crafted by highly skilled and talented machinist. I don’t mind paying extra for that at all. I’d love to try a BDH but I’ve had my Pro Sim for a year now and I just can imagine anything being better. I’m sure it might be just as good but thats not enough for me to buy one. I’m not Mr R-VR after all:)

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

Yes mate all great examples! This is exactly when we don't mind paying the money just like with this BDH shifter.

Good review. CSLDD video coming soon?

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

Embargo lifts next week but I'm yet to receive any drivers to test it with!! lol

what you're talking about with 1st and reverse being in line with each other is what's called a "dogleg 1st" and isn't entirely unheard of. some sports cars use it, and most manual semi-trucks do as well. where it's a 5 speed H pattern but with 1st under reverse, then when you flip over to high range some will go back through the 1st gear position again for a 10 speed, or just 2-5 again for a 9.

I will buy one if they make it to be a sequential too just like the Fanatec

Nice review. This shifter looks awesome. I like it for the same reason I like my HPP pedals - both are expensive pieces of kit but my HPPs are very well machined out of aluminum and are a true custom design from the US of A, and this shifter seems to share that trait (though it's from the UK ofc).

Waiting for your CSL DD video Karl 😉. Monday isn’t it when you can post according to the NDA?

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

It is! :)

Can't wait to get one of these, just wish they never went down the route of mixing in sequential also. :/

@KarlGosling

2 ай бұрын

Why is that mate? I have one and it's no different in use to this.

@IamAW

2 ай бұрын

@@KarlGosling I've seen videos talking about the sequential "upgrade" causes shifts in H pattern to feel different at the top, compared to the bottom gears. Obviously it's minor, and I will still get one of these. But I would much rather buy a H-pattern only if I could.

How would you compare this to the Pro Sim H-Pattern Shifter if you've had the chance to try it... Great video 😊

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

I've not used one mate sorry.

I was wondering - is it possible to put a custom gear knob? What kind of thread does it have if any? This would be awesome with a nice weighted knob from a real car :)

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I think it's just an M10 thread.

Nice piece. The stiffness when in neutral seems unrealistic. Are there H patterns IRL that click and resist when going from in-gear back into neutral?

@bazookabill9232

3 жыл бұрын

You have to remember this is a piece of sim racing equipment. To make it as realistic as possible you have to overcome some obstacles. You can't just take a gearbox and plug a cable in to make it work for sim racing. Unfortunately you're always going to have one or two things that aren't 100% realistic but the feel of the gear change I.E from 1st to 2nd through neutral and so on .... that's where the realistic feel is. Its the clunking, force and resistance that gives it the feel. To achieve this, there has to be a bit of clicking and resistance to come back to neutral. (At least with how this has been developed) This feel was based on and aimed to feel like a mk2 escort quaife dog box, granted there are bits that maybe need to be finessed and looked at but BDH are always open to suggestions and will always try to help the customer as much as they possibly can.

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

Yes mate, less so on production cars (although some do) more track/race box's.

Out of curiosity have you had the chance to try the Pro-Sim H pattern shifter? They both look like solid shifters, but is Pri-Sim worth the extra cost?

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

No mate I've not, it does look very good though! :)

kept talkin about a shifter but not once mentions the whole transmission sittin in front of him. I don't get iiiiitt ???

Great shifter, but way too cheap. Just asked for a price and they need 6-8 months to think about taking new orders. Sh*t I noticed this video today, so too late, but my Frex h-shifter isn't that bad either:)

That's the CSL DD in the background with the Mclaren V2?

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

it is!

Is there a promo code It went up 50$ I’ll buy it and see how it goes

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

No mate no codes.

Can you please confirm if you have to engage the clutch to operate the shifter when in game, or it's just an open system.

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

Thats down to the game/sim mate, nothing to do with how the shifter operates.

@rikirk66

2 жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling well, depends. check Pro Sim and you will find the hardware solution.

What is your discount code for Fanatec

@KarlGosling

11 ай бұрын

Link in the description of every video, if there's a discount available it will be applied.

Can someone tell me which sims and which cars still use an H pattern?? I love to buy one but it seems like a dying breed. smh.

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Most sims will have cars that are H pattern, but I like it for Rally, more involved and fun even if it is slower and not always a reflection of the car you are in.

It equals Abit over $1500 AUD yes for a piece of computer equipment it's expensive.. however for how it's made, I can't help thinking this poor guys are ripping themselves off. If it takes 2 weeks to make and only $1500, then take out product cost. It equals less than minimum wage (Australia anyway) they are practically giving it away!!!!

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

Dave at BDH literally said "we're making fuck all on them" so yeah exactly that mate. It works out about £40 p/h which is a good wage in the UK, minimum wage is £8.65 or something like that.

If someone takes 2 weeks to do that, it's a slow milling lathe / machine dang, It makes too much noise for being inside the house, and it clicks like an old lock lol; sry mate

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think it's fair for you to say without knowing whats inside, this isn't just an H plate with springs and ball bearings like a Fanatec shifter etc. it's closer to a hand made gearbox. Yeah if you want a quiet shifter then yes this is not for you!

Shifter or rocket ship

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Both! lol

The Last Shifter You'll Ever Need cause u wont have any money left to buy anything else lol

as much as I like your view on things, this was useless. NO ACTUALL FOOTAGE IN USE WHILE DRIVING

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

NO NEED TO SHOUT!!! The footage got corrupt during file transfer (power cut) and I had already removed and packed the shifter up to send it back.

Looking for a comparison between this and the ProSim H Pattern Shifter: www.pro-sim.co.uk/shop/h-pattern-shifter/ which was built in partnership with *Quaife Engineering*

@KarlGosling

3 жыл бұрын

I don't have one mate and definitely can't afford to buy one sorry! lol

@bazookabill9232

2 жыл бұрын

Check out v-vr closet. He did a side by side vs prosim