That filter is large. Could be that with so much volume to replace with the drainback that is occurring, a smaller filter would fill faster. As another poster said, WIX 57502 is only 4.1 inches high (which would make it fit better under the engine cover. An Amsoil EA15K50 is only 3.4 inches high, so would also fit. Each of these has the proper thread diameter and pitch (M22 x 1.50) to screw on, and the gaskets are each also the proper size (O.D. 2.75", I.D. 2.397"). Bypass valves also around 13 psi. The other advantage to this install is possibly avoiding boogering up the bypass valve in the OE filter cap by installing or removing the OE filter incorrectly. Perhaps a follow-up video with a smaller filter to see if the clatter time is reduced further.

@JeepsLimited

14 күн бұрын

That's a pretty good point. I'm due for an oil change so I might do that. Thanks for the idea.

8:14 i used a long handle Allen wrench candy cane type. would hook inside the fitting and just turn it to tighten the fitting

That filter looks large, I was instructed to use the WIX 57502 filter.

2015 Chrysler 200c it’s not the original owners manual. It’s the Manual you can get at auto zone or Amazon. I have a 2008 Durango 4.7 and it works for this vehicle too. Specially when sitting for a bit or a new oil change

The 90 should be put on then adjust the black baxter housing so you CAN get your closed end wrench on the 90. After that the set screw for the threads can be run down. Learned this from install on my sons JK. Good vid.

@JeepsLimited

6 ай бұрын

That's a very good point. That would have been a lot easier lol.

@BNJAMN_HardRock

5 ай бұрын

Just installed this with the same WIX filter. Kevin Baxter actually returned my call and helped me over the phone! My cover fits I just had to make sure it goes into back grommets! I also installed the J&L oil separator, which makes the vacuum lines even more challanging, but J&L want me a 90 to go around oil filter! On the downside I do have a leak in the oil filter housing.

@JohnSmith-sh1zg

5 ай бұрын

@@BNJAMN_HardRockwhere is the oil leak exactly? Just installed mine today in a 2018 JL

@BNJAMN_HardRock

5 ай бұрын

@@JohnSmith-sh1zg hard to tell exactly somewhere on the top rail underneath the manifold. Mine still has the OEM plastic oil filter housing, I have reset the Baxter twice and used soapy water when putting air to it. It’s not the Baxter. I have oils all over the underneath where you would think it’s the main seal, but it’s comjng c from up top

@JeepsLimited

5 ай бұрын

@@BNJAMN_HardRock good to know they have good customer service. And I don't normally have the cover on there anyway so I gave up pretty easily lol

Go ahead and splurge on the XP version of the Wix filter. It upgrades the filter media to synthetic rather than the base cellulose found in the regular Wix.

@JeepsLimited

4 ай бұрын

Good to know. I'll check it out.

@85Stang331

2 ай бұрын

What does this do to help. I’m a former Jeep tech and do these cam and lifter replacements still.

@JeepsLimited

2 ай бұрын

@85Stang331 The housing has an anti drain back so it keeps oil in the filter rather then letting it run back down into the pan. It's supposed to eliminate dry start.

It still clatters, could be the lifters going out on it as well, which the 3.6 and 3.2 are known for. I've seen hit or miss reviews on the Baxter adapter.

@JeepsLimited

2 ай бұрын

In some circumstances, the lifters could be a problem making it clatter. I know for a fact my lifters are good because at the time of this video the engine only had about two thousand miles on it

@SolosHold

19 күн бұрын

You gotta replace them , the bearings are already bad on rockers.

@JeepsLimited

18 күн бұрын

@SolosHold the engine only had like 2k miles on them at this time so aren't bad. Pluse I've seen engines that clatter at start up but have good rockers. That noise is not necessarily rocks and lifters. It could also be timing chain. The hydraulic chain tensioner takes a few seconds to fill with oil.

@SolosHold

6 күн бұрын

@@JeepsLimited Its your jeep, I have replaced so many sets of the rockers I have lost count. I have seen them go at few thousand miles or several dozen thousand. I have seen them bad on brand new jeeps aswell. do what you like, but when you do them, use the melling replacements rather than the mopar. Advice is free, and wisdom is hard earned. Guess you would rather wipe a cam or two out before you replace the rockers. instead of the baxter all you gotta do is hold the gas pedal to the floor and crank it to prime, it wont start, then lift to reset the TPS and crank to start normally after priming.

@JeepsLimited

6 күн бұрын

@@SolosHold have you ever seen issues with the timing chain? With the hydraulic tensioner they chain is slacked for about the same amount of time that the rockers/ lifters are dty. I've heard other people say that makes noise at start up as well.

Here’s the thing. I found in the owners manual. If you hold the gas pedal down and cycle the ignition, it’ll prime the oil into the motor. So you don’t have a dry start. Also that whole configuration seams to be a pain in the ass.

@chrispurzer9461

4 ай бұрын

Where, exactly, what year is your vehicle and what page is this info provided?

@jeepinintexas6215

4 ай бұрын

​@@chrispurzer9461I can confirm this works on a 2012 Wrangler.

@apostleyayaHsu

3 ай бұрын

clear flood mode

@jeepinintexas6215

3 ай бұрын

@@apostleyayaHsu no flood, it's not a carbureted engine. Holding the pedal down disables the fuel injectors.

@TheMightyMaxx

2 ай бұрын

Also, you won't be able to remote start your vehicle using this method.

Can you see oil pooling in the "V"? I think that ANY leakage from the plastic cooler housing will defeat the Baxter fix, resulting in the resumption of dry starts.

@JeepsLimited

4 ай бұрын

If there is any oil leaking from the filter housing or cooler you should just replace it.

@henrybucki7813

3 ай бұрын

remember the orange colored cap on the oil filter.thats the one for the aluminum housing .Dorman @@JeepsLimited

@JeepsLimited

3 ай бұрын

@henrybucki7813 it's not actually a Dorman brand but your correct that it's an aluminum housing.

Definitely hear the Lifters. Did it go away or still making the noise??

@JeepsLimited

6 күн бұрын

It still makes the noise. I usually prime it before I start it if it's been sitting a while.

Also mopar is really the only filter they recommend for there services. They have a unique standard. For pressure and fitment.

@JeepsLimited

5 ай бұрын

I actually agree with you on both of these. I demonstrate the oil priming in the video. However with the oil priming technique on the original filter set up you can get a check engine light for a cam shaft position sensor bc your spine everything over with little oil pressure and the can phasers are not in the right spot. The fact of the matter is the oil delivery design is not very good and there is really nothing you can do about it. I installed this hoping that it would make a difference and it does but it does not fix it like they claim. Part of my issue is I don't drive the vehicle on a regular basis either. If it's driven daily you might have better results.

For future reference, don’t put oil on pipe fittings…use pipe tape or teflon pipe dope. You will have a lot less leaks in the long run..

@JeepsLimited

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info. I think that's what they said to do in the instructions but I could be wrong. Will the pipe tape / pipe dope hold up to the heat under the hood?

@williamtoney2599

4 ай бұрын

@@JeepsLimited oh yeah, that’s what it’s made for. I’m a retired mechanic and I try to use the Loctite pipe dope in a tube….good stuff. If you have one that maybe the threads are worn , from over tightening, then the teflon tape will probably work better as it helps to make up for the worn threads.

@JeepsLimited

4 ай бұрын

@@williamtoney2599 good to know. Thanks for the advice.

I see. I do drive my car everyday. Maybe add an oil supplement to help with lubrication? I’ve had good luck with Z-Max. It penetrates deep in the metal.

@JeepsLimited

5 ай бұрын

Yeah you could as long as you don't thicken the oil with it. These engines qre design for a high flow of thin oil. You don't want the oils being too thick thus making it move slower. Tho I'm also just overly concerned bc I had an engine blow with only 67k miles on it and I'm not sure exactly why it happened. I just know it was an oil issue.

WIX 57502 is listed in the directions.

@JeepsLimited

5 ай бұрын

There seems to be several that fit. The only problem I had with that exact filter was the cover not fitting. I'm assuming other filters are probably just smaller.

@JohnSmith-sh1zg

5 ай бұрын

@@JeepsLimited yeah they give a list of 3 brands and their respective models. Maybe if you get a height measurement of your filter I can do the same with the model WIX I used. 🤷‍♂️ For curiosity purposes.

@BNJAMN_HardRock

5 ай бұрын

I have a 16 Hard Rock Rubicon and am using the WiX 57502XP

@JeepsLimited

5 ай бұрын

@JohnSmith-sh1zg sure I'll measure it this weekend. This is how we learn lol

@JeepsLimited

5 ай бұрын

@@BNJAMN_HardRock does the plastic engine cover fit on yours with that filter?

Be very careful with the installation, the oil filter housing as everyone probably knows is a weak link in these engines and any rotational stress will cause it to fail and leak oil and coolant, plus it is a $15,000.00 repair including parts and labor unless you can do it yourself. Been there done that :(

@JeepsLimited

4 ай бұрын

I had to replace my engine last year. Only had 67k miles on it. I would also probably recommend only installing this on an aluminum oil filter.

@philsonnenberg6092

4 ай бұрын

$15,000 repair?! Where are you going to get your repairs done and what are they putting in as parts?! Solid gold?! I just had the oil cooler replaced on my 3.2 and it was $841 TOTAL for the upgraded all aluminum cooler.

@JeepsLimited

4 ай бұрын

@@philsonnenberg6092 I think he might be referring to replacing the engine if you were to cause damage to the oil system and cause the engine to blow.

@philsonnenberg6092

4 ай бұрын

@@JeepsLimited but damaging the crap plastic oil cooler is less than $1000 repair. WAY less if you do it yourself, which is totally doable with a simple set of tools. I only had mine done since it was still under a service contract. I just paid the upcharge for the aluminum cooler, which was $125.

@tarzan30809

4 ай бұрын

1,500.00 sorry for the mistake. The dealer charge $1,200.00 for labor and the part cost aprox. $300 with taxes. I changed the part myself and if you look the way that it is connected to the engine base you will how this will be prone the failure again. Good luck with your Jeep@@philsonnenberg6092

You need to clean that filthy engine!!!

@JeepsLimited

28 күн бұрын

Yeah it's pretty bad lol

Will the engine cover still work

@JeepsLimited

5 ай бұрын

I did not get mine back on but I didn't try very hard because I normally don't have it on anyone. I think others were able to get the cover on.

@tarzan30809

4 ай бұрын

You have to make a hole

@JeepsLimited

4 ай бұрын

@tarzan30809 you can leave it off I'm you need to as well.

@NarleyAdventures

29 күн бұрын

@@tarzan30809 Thats what I'll be doing.

Where to buy

@JeepsLimited

Ай бұрын

I ordered from Northridge 4x4

i experienced the same EXACT scenario... disappointed

Agree, it does not eliminate the dry start. Total solution- avoid Jeep altogether. Its such a crappy product when you buy an expensive vehicle in the $50-70K, you have so much problems. Dry start, death wobble on a low mileage stock chassis, etc., etc. They built it to screw you out of a lot of money on new engine, chassis build every so often. Have you heard of replacing chassis parts at 20K miles?

@JeepsLimited

3 ай бұрын

I've not really had any real problems with the frame or the stock axles, suspension, or steering. Just problems with the engine

@thomasmorris2852

21 күн бұрын

I’ve had nothing but close to bulletproof reliability with the 1 yj, 2 tj’s and my current 2016 jk, but even so, I’d agree with sketchy reliability and engineering from fiat and stellantis generations that’s very disappointing to a lifelong jeep guy like me.

Makes me mad that im driving around c reports 2024 worst car builder in the world even worse than kia ,hun, hell even land Rover. Thanks jeep for your sucky engineer's.

@JeepsLimited

Ай бұрын

I definitely think there are some real issues with the motor that need to be addressed.

Another reason NOT to buy a Jeep!

@JeepsLimited

24 күн бұрын

I actually agree lol. I'm really disappointed with the 3.6.