yup. I bought it! this is my second season (22-23) ridding and I started to go in the park, just for the jumps, never did rails or boxes, but I bought this board cause I thought it could help me improving my technique and I'm pretty amazed with it! super light, feels right while ridding and gotta say that to learn switch, it's a pretty safe choice! I'm not really a good rider, but I hope I can become one with my Alice (yup, I feel like I'm in wonderland with this board), starting to get into switch and carving. The flex of the board is amazing, super easy and comfortable pop. Couldn't be happier with the choice. An absoulute must have board! See y'all on the mountain! Cheers!

Awesome riding TJ! You make it look effortless. Thanks for the review

@ellstackeradventures

2 жыл бұрын

Yeww

Thanks TJ for the vid, Now I’m really stoked about the Whatever and going to buy/order one 🤙🏾🔥

As soon as i saw bataleon in the title i knew tj would be giving us some epic steezy park clips… so sick!

Awesome reviews as always TJ.. I've got the 2019 Whatever and love it. Does exactly what you say in the review. The new shape and colour way looks the nuts tho. Just bought the Wallie for a sketchy laugh.. Party Wave has caught my eye lately.. Really think Bataleon are producing some gorgeous boards 🤙..

I've been snowboarding for about a year now, coming from a surf and skate background of over 30 years. I'm 5' 8", 167lbs, 8.5 US shoe size and now live in Switzerland. I have a Party Wave (154) and a Lib Tech Orca (153), which I ride when they fit the need, but I just got the Bataleon Whatever 154cm about a month ago, same as the review, and love it! I ride it 85% of the time now. I go out about 2x/wk and we haven't had powder conditions as often as I was hoping, so I've had to get on piste. I never worry about the Whatever catching an edge or how it's going to turn. I just ride it. It feels like a skateboard to me, whereas the Party Wave feels surfy, but I ride that one in powder which has a lot to do with the surfy feel. I've ridden the Whatever really fast in about 6 inch deep powder and it gave me a lot of confidence. I feel very confident on piste with it. It's so freaking light too! I've tried about 10 boards out over a year and this board has been the funnest - just feels right to me. And when you're riding across the flats it will not catch an edge. It has never thrown me down. It plows through rough stuff better than my other two boards. I can't say enough about this board.

@cogan5949

Жыл бұрын

Yoo I have a surf and wakeboard a ton(surf 2-3x week). Do you think the Whatever would be a bad board to learn on?

@BreauxBobby

Жыл бұрын

@@cogan5949 it's perfect for beginners because it flexes a lot, it's not stiff, and it turns so easy. You don't have to think about it. I'm a beginner to snowboarding too. I've only done it for 2 seasons

@gladdy02

3 ай бұрын

How does it do in ice and hard snow?

@BreauxBobby

3 ай бұрын

@@gladdy02 Hey. I've had this board for a while now. And I got a few other boards since I wrote that. The Whatever does not do so good with ice and hard snow. Because it doesn't catch an edge easily, it also doesn't dig into ice or hard snow. The edge doesn't catch (lol). I have a Jones Mountain Twin that rides just about the same, not as loose. The Mountain Twin is what I ride when I'm facing ice steeps. The edges are designed to handle that, to grip. You can feel it sometimes catch when you're going straight. And the Jones holds up better at fast speeds and is faster. I still like the Whatever more than any of the boards I have from a sheer fun perspective. I have 6 now, including 2 splitboards. You should check out the Bataleon Beyond Medals if you want to get the Whatever feel and the stability of a stiff board with a faster base. But when I go on piste, and its normal conditions, the Whatever is such a blast to ride. And it's great in a little bit of powder.

Thanks for the breakdown TJ!

Some sick tricks in this one my dude.

That tactical hoodie let's gooooo

That was close at 6:30! haha Nice review

Saw this board at my local sports store and wanted to find out more info and this video was so helpful, thank you!

@BoardArchive

7 ай бұрын

Stoked to hear you found this video helpful! Thanks

Brilliant as always. I’ve ordered the 22/23 model for the upcoming season in Australia. 46 year old groomer cruiser.

@BreauxBobby

2 жыл бұрын

You're gonna love this board. I got one a month ago and have taken it out about 8 times in a lot of different conditions. It's my favorite board I've ever ridden. I don't ride like TJ but I have a blast riding the Whatever.

@geoffreywielandt8108

2 жыл бұрын

What size did you order and how tall, heavy and bootsize do you have? I’m a 45 year old groomer cruiser and going to buy one to🤙🏾

@arjanvijselaar534

2 жыл бұрын

156W. I’m 182cm and 75kgs. Replacing my old Evil Twin.

@geoffreywielandt8108

2 жыл бұрын

@@arjanvijselaar534 thanks for the info, I’m 183cm weigh 94kg and have boots size 10,5 so I think I will need the 162w what do you think? Are you Dutch?

@arjanvijselaar534

2 жыл бұрын

@@geoffreywielandt8108 sounds about right. But I’m no expert. Yes, dutch born but raised in New Zealand.

Hei TJ! Can you review more Ride Snowboards? Would love to see you on the Benchwarmer! Or and also the Psychocandy, Berzerker, Zero?

such a good looking board. Love the shape. Seems like a really good all rounder. I wanna see it in the pow!

@_michael-49

2 жыл бұрын

Rode it on a 2ft pow day at Stevens Pass this weekend and it felt super good!! I put my stance back a tiny bit but i didnt even have to lean back it just floats!

Many thanks for you videos TJ! Could you please compare Whatever with Evil Twin? Which one would be better for resort riding, buttering, park progression?

Im probably going to get it now

I bought the 21 model year of the Whatever in a deal and just for fun to try out 3BT. I've ridden it about 5 times but I'm not sure I'll ever get used to the strange feel of these pronounced 3D shapes, especially in harder snow conditions. Maybe if I started riding a 3BT from day one I wouldn't know any better, or if I rode it more often I would eventually adjust to it, but it lacks the precision of conventional flat shapes until you get them sufficiently on edge then it feels pretty normal. Turn overshoot with 3BT is really noticeable and something I need to compensate for when I switch between the 3BT and non-3D shaped boards. I have used it in a variety of terrain (it is the Whatever after all) and it can hold a pretty good edge, is soft for butters, very catch free, but holding long wheelies or presses on that narrow tail contact patch is a lot of work! I think it would be better in light powder conditions and am waiting for that opportunity to spend some more time on it. Maybe its just me, but I think mellowing out the deep 3D shapes and smoothing the shape transitions would improve the overall feel of these boards.

@sealteamz6

2 жыл бұрын

Everything you said makes sense but I picked up the evil twin this season and so far have loved it. Even felt great for ripping blue groomers too. It’s also been great for practicing switch. My other two boards are the capita asymulator and lib tec orca. I got the asym used last year and I think I need to get it tuned at the shop because I haven’t really experienced the great carving that everyone says it has. My evil twin carves better.

@ellstackeradventures

2 жыл бұрын

Yoo

@joaquingonzalez2466

2 жыл бұрын

are you the guy selling it on ebay by any chance?

@ClosestNearUtopia

Жыл бұрын

Ive ridden the lobster park 1th or 2nd version. I absolutely loved it for park. For hard snow it sucked, its a submarine in pow, carving asked a lot popped okish. I switched over to doa, and loved it so much. Carves sweet, floats, pops massive, lots of response. But it got all smashed by rocks. And now got the 22/23model of the whatever. Al cons I experiences on the parkboard arent there. It carves like a beast, the flex makes it possible to rip about any terrain. And yes, my rail and jibs feel so smooth again. Its unbelievable how much fun this board is and how less it compromises with the tbt, when I bought it I was not satisfied it had this much tbt, i just needed a new board, and the usecase sounds perfect for me.. but jet I dont feel any of the tbt while I while ride, normal or aggressive, i say, put your highbacks more aggressive for this one, tbt will safe you anywah, its a playfull very poppy and relyable board, carves about insane, the fast turnining skier guys were impressed by me doing their track with no ease 😮 I even wonder how my doa and knees would hold op on the doa even trying on the conditions of that day.. the whatever rides so unique, I truly feel more surfy, more playfull with still no con of tbt.

Great review. Bataleon boards are so much fun! I have the Global Warmer and the Goliath. Love them both, but spend most of my time on the Global Warmer, which is pretty similar to the Whatever. If you have never ridden a Bataleon, make sure you do.

@Leo-pd8ww

2 жыл бұрын

Thinking about picking up a Goliath. The reviews on 3BT are so diverse. Especially on resort groomers or icy conditions. What are your experiences?

@flisms

2 жыл бұрын

@@Leo-pd8ww - I came from a Gnu with magnetraction and wasn't disappointed. The Bataleons are a little more likely to lose an edge but it's not enough to worry about. Maybe if you are always/only riding icy conditions a traditional shape is best..but to me the benefits of 3bt by far outweigh all negatives.

that 7 was sick

Hey TJ love your vids! Can you do a review on a Nitro T1? Would love to see you test more Nitro boards!

@Big_Baby_Jesus22

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Nitro is the 2nd most underrated brand in the market next to DWD

Hey TJ, what are the main differences (besides the specs) between the Whatever and Fun Kink?

Hey TJ, I'm between the whatever and the fun kink. Coming off of a beginner board, looking for something to progress on and grow into. Going for something that can do it all, can handle the whole mountain and won't hold me back wherever I take it, which one would you recommend?

Can you do a full review of your daily driver, the Bataleon Boss? Thank you!

Which do you think is better, Bataleon Party Wave Plus or the Jones Storm Chaser? Priority being: 1) Float in pow and nimbleness; 2) Carve and pop; 3) high speed stability.

How would you compare this Whatever to the Goliath 21 that you rode in the other video? I’m looking at these, the Jones MT 2023 and possibly the Amplid Singular or Singular Twin I’m an intermediate rider, about 210lbs with size 11.5 boots. Riding Blues comfortably, don’t hit park as a Rad Dad, but looking for stability, edge hold on the Ice Coast

Do it all true twin begginer/intermediate top 3? Thanks! Best reviews of snowboard

How does it compare to the older whatever other than the shape? Does it ride the same?

How does the 3d base tech affect locking in to rails?

I love my bataleon stallion, I wanna ride one of these for the softer flex

Hey Tj can you do some Lago board reviews!

Hi Tj, i'm 6ft 200lb and us12 boots, is better 159w or 162w for me? Thanks

My granddaughter fell in love with it the minute she opened it.

Which do you prefer this was a fun kink??

That's my board! I only found it in 157. Now, I'm contemplating buying it again in 151. Or the disaster...

I think Swanny should buy this snowboard.

I haven't been paying attention for a long time 3

Can we get a Burton process review?

Kan you do lobster eiki pro???

How does this compare to the evil twin flex wise ? Is it a better all Moubtain board than that ? I’m mainly on the mountain but 80% of what I do is freestyle, love carving though Another great review thanks

@calebheney302

8 ай бұрын

Hey man, don't know if you found your answer yet but the whatever and evil twin are similar in flex. Both rate at 5 on bataleons flex scale. Having rode both and being the owner of the whatever the evil twin and whatever are very similar all around. The whatever has a longer nose and shorter tail making it directional, but other than that it is almost the same as the evil twin. Hope this helped.

Love the idea of the 3bt and the board looks ace. I’m a later stages beginner moving into intermediate ( so I’ve been told ). Would this be too much for me ? Another great vid, cheers

@Gregor-em3ws

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t think it would be too much at all. should be a really good fit for you as it’s softer. So go for it, it’s catch free and sounds like a flex of 4/10. but depends on your weight too…if you are 200+, then not a fit

@jimsdrivingschool

2 жыл бұрын

@@Gregor-em3ws cheers, I’m 5,10 and 160 so sounds like the board TJ was on would maybe work well then

@johnlike5115

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimsdrivingschool I own this board. I’m 5’8” at 165-170 lbs and I love it. It is a little softer but so much fun. For reference I also own a Rome gang plank and an arbor Westmark. Rome is even softer and the Westmark is more stiff. Since I got this to try 3bt and it does take a couple laps to get used to but after that it is awesome

@ginge625

2 жыл бұрын

Jim.. No.. Well worth a buy. Personally I found the 3bt needed a little time to get used to. If you're on the flat it skated, felt loose, like that feeling when you think you are going to catch an edge.. but when you know that's not going to happen and you get a feel for it., It's blinding and you can start to get them spins going. For the money too.. Best board I've had to date.

@BreauxBobby

2 жыл бұрын

Jim. I'm a beginner too, but with a long background of skating and surfing, so I feel pretty comfortable now on snowboards after a year. I ride 2x a week. This board has boosted my confidence and has been the friendliest, funnest board I've ever ridden out of 10 of them. I own a Party Wave and a Lib Tech Orca. This board is super easy to turn and it will not catch an edge.

I really want to add some 3bt to my quiver. I have a skeleton key and a proto fr now. Thinking more free ride than freestyle. Looking at the party wave + or the thunder

@mad-scar2.092

2 жыл бұрын

Yes same

@christianalvin1310

2 жыл бұрын

Just got the Gimbal God pw+ 154, and it’s the coolest board i have! Sick for both freeride and carving, plows through chowder snow and floats so good in pow. If you’re thinking about it, you wont regret buying it my dude!

@carsonevans7084

2 жыл бұрын

i’ve got the bataleon fun kink and it’s the perfect jib board that wont hold you back on the rest of the mountain

@christianalvin1310

2 жыл бұрын

@@carsonevans7084 i also got the fun kink, such a cool board for park riding! It does hold up when it comes to all mountain, but does not measure up to the party wave+ in that area imo

how is 3D (3BT) technology working in park?

Hey man, what are the differences between this and your Goliath for all mountain riding?

@BoardArchive

Жыл бұрын

the goliath is much stiffer and more aggressive. it will be a lot more capable for all-mtn exploring and higher speed riding. The whatever is like a park board with an all-mtn shape

They were letting people demo Bataleon boards at my resort but I showed up right after the event sadly

What’s better at high speeds, evil twin or whatever, and why?

@TwinbeeUK

Жыл бұрын

I'm only sub-intermediate level, but I found the Whatever slightly more stable at higher speeds perhaps mostly due to the wider base, despite being only a 154 versus the Evil Twin's 157.

Review the Public Dispute?

yooooo tj am i ever gonna get that damn return label man? what is with you and not responding anymore?

Thoughts on this for a mountain focussed freestyle deck vs the evil twin?

@BoardArchive

9 ай бұрын

definitely nice to have the directional outline. it is a little softer than the ET. if you want something more stable check out the goliath

@maxnguyen2875

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the reply. This year is rated a 5 vs 4 last year. Maybe they beefed it up a bit.

👍🏽

wish i could go snowboarding but i can’t afford the board 😭

Would you recommend this or the burton deep thinker ?

What happened TJ? You were a good rider. Then over the last year you got like real good. Why you been holding back on us?

Liked, so you can afford a new helmet bro! Is it literally a hole there on your left side forehead?