Fighting is like mafia law enforcement. There is un-written rules.. U break them, someone's going to fight you.

fighting in hockey is actually against the rules. But it is tolerated because ironically it actually makes the sport safer. It's understood that you have to protect yourself and your teammates and they're gonna do the same for you. If you play dirty and take cheap shots the other team is not going to tolerate that and they will make you answer for it. Guys know this and thus are more inclined to behave themselves because they don't wanna catch a beat down.

@Gregolian

2 жыл бұрын

it allows the players to essentially police themselves. And it helps keeps from those bench clearing brawls you see in American football or baseball when teams just get fed up with each other and don't care anymore.

Pretty simple for fighting, it’s a way for the players to police the game themselves. There are codes in place. There are expectations in place. If you cheap shot a player, you know you need to answer the bell. If you punch a guy when he’s down, you need to keep your head on a swivel. It actually helps keep the game cleaner.

Hockey is a self regulated game. Be a jerk, get what you deserve. Your own team mates will also let you know. Game of respect.

Hockey players police themselves in a lot of ways. If you hit a teams goalie, star player expect an answer. Teams usually have guys who take care of those things, teams on both sides understand the unwritten rules.

Martin St. Louis mother died unexpectedly the day before mother's day, his team the NY Rangers were in the playoffs. He flew to Montreal to spend time with his family and the next day went back to NY to join his team and ended up scoring a goal on mother's day.

The reason that fighting is allowed in hockey is really pretty simple to explain, but somewhat more difficult to actually understand. Hockey is played at a very high speed, and the 1 referee can not see EVERYTHING that happens, so there is room for a lot of cheap shots in hockey, compared to other sports. Well, there is an unwritten code between hockey players/teams. If you throw a dirty shot at one of our players, and the ref doesn't see it and no penalty is called, you can bet that the next line change will see what used to be called the team's 'policeman' will be on the ice the next time the player that took the dirty shot is on the ice, and a hard check will come, and then a fight. So teams tend to stay away from playing dirty because they know that if one of their players tries it, he will have a fight on his hands soon after. Same thing if you run a goal tender (goalie). Just watch what a team will do when the other team runs into their goalie! Mayhem! And ever since they added the instigator of a fight rule (where the guy who starts the fight takes an extra 2 minute penalty, giving the other team a power play), this has caused an increase in the dirty shots since now a team protecting their players, will be short-handed. Can you imagine if Wayne Gretzky did not have protection back then? The other teams would have run him every chance they had, but Dave Semenko made sure that if you tried it, he would have it out with you and you would not do that again any time soon. That moment in Chicago when they took the lead with 59 seconds left, and then won the Stanley Cup, they were so hyped because it had been over 50 years since the last time Chicago had won the Stanley Cup! And the only place I could think of off hand that would probably go crazier, is if Montreal were to finally win another one. Okay, so they won in 1993, but we are so spoiled here in Montreal (having won the most Stanley Cups of all the teams, in fact, they have more than the 2nd and 3rd place teams put together! I also remember when Montreal won 5 Cups in a row, the only team to EVER do that, and they did it TWICE!!!) they will explode when they win their next one.

Long story short, fighting allows the game to police itself.

Damn we need more guys like this! He is the perfect example of what we need to be. Supporting each others sports rather then breaking them down

@ibrahimwattar7216

3 жыл бұрын

for sure man ! Glad you enjoyed the video 😊 Sports is about common respect, I absolutely love every sport and respect the effort that goes into each one !

Fighting is allowed because it acts as a self policing mechanism. With how fast hockey moves, it comes with a lot of intensity and emotion, causing players to do things they shouldn't do and refs can miss it. Basically, if you do something stupid or dangerous, you now how to deal with the punishment of someone beating the breaks off of you. It mitigates malicious actions and in a way makes the game safer by acting as a deterrent Edit: its technically not "allowed", as it is a 5 minute major penalty, but it just doesn't result in suspensions and fines etc.

@ibrahimwattar7216

3 жыл бұрын

Yea that’s what makes this sport unique! In any other sport, you get suspended and fined if you even try to punch a player

@billdurfy2110

3 жыл бұрын

In fact, often the initial act that caused the fight will bring a suspension, but not always.

Marty St. Louis was one of my favorite players for a long time. It really sucked when he bailed on the Lightning but I don’t hold it against him.

A brutal game from a country where everybody is thought to be so nice and considerate.

@September2004

10 ай бұрын

It’s why they’re nice and considerate. They get it out in hockey.

Okay... Fighting isn't "allowed." You will be penalized for it, you may suspended for it, you may be kicked out of the league for it. But... it is tolerated, and the reason is simple: Controlled aggression is less injurious than uncontrolled aggression. They're big boys, the NHL wouldn't be the first time they fought on skates. So let them get it out of their system, and once 1 player goes down, the officials (linesmen) move in and break it up.

@JonathanSorenson204

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Hockey has two sets of rules. One is written in a book and policed by the refs. The other is an unwritten code that protects players from dangerous players and games getting out of hand. Essentially, you put my players health in danger or act dishonorably, expect to lose some teeth. For that reason, fighting prevents injuries.

That tribute from Martin St. Louis to his mother is more meaningfull than you probably think. Martin was relatively small player at 5ft 8in. He was told is entire life he would be to small to play in the NHL, which was his dream. His mother was always there to support him, to tell him to believe in himself and to help him achieve his dreams. Martin was not even drafted in the NHL, he made his way through by playing in the AHL before having his chance. He never gave up. He went on to win the Art Ross trophy as the league leader in points, the Hart Memorial trophy as the most valuable player AND the Stanley cup in 2003-2004. 9 years later, in 2012-2013, he won his second Art Ross trophy at 37 years old.

@ibrahimwattar7216

3 жыл бұрын

Wow what a great story! That is what dedication is all about 💪🏼

Hockey is a highly intense, highly charged, physical sport. Fighting despite what people think solves a multitude of things. It's creates unity knowing your fellow players have your back no matter what. It allows players to be a part of regulating their own sport by making sure everyone knows what is and isn't allowed. Likewise, it can change the tempo of a game in an instant. There are less retaliatory predatory hits because players both agree to the fight, and they adhere to some unwritten rules that are enforced despite being unwritten. Both players have to be a willing combatant, You don't continue to fight a player when he's down among others. It's our sport, the fans and the players and the players and for the players they are willing to fight and defend it and their team.

The code....all I need to say...

Fighting is allowed cause if you couldn't fight people would cheap shot, it keeps the game safer ironically if u do something stupid u know you will get beat up so u learn to play right

Knowing you will get your face punched in for playing dirty is more of a deterrent than being penalized. Having enforcers on the ice prevents more injuries than a fine or suspension. Self-policing works better than more rules and regulations. Plus, most fans stand up and cheer every time there is a fight, and a good scrap often changes the momentum and hypes up a losing team.

@ibrahimwattar7216

3 жыл бұрын

Yea that actually makes sense ! It also makes the sport unique and special 😊

After watching some of your hockey videos I decided to throw you a subscription. You seem to like what you are doing. I like that. Back in the day there used to be team members whose only job was to protect the skill players. They were big men and were there to fight. It made the other team think before trying to cheap shot one of the better players on the opposing team. It's not as prevalent today as even the big bruisers nowadays have pretty darn good skills. Watch some old fight videos. It was brutal back then. I recommend some "Hockey Fight in Canada" videos. That will lead you to Don Cherry. You need to devote a whole video or two to Mr. Cherry. He was one of a kind. Plus, it's two men wearing skates on ice. It's pretty hard to get a good punch in so, shockingly, there aren't many bad injuries from fighting. So, the refs let them go until they both are obviously tired or they fall to the ice. Most of the injuries come from boarding and blind-siding. Those are hits on unaware players. That's why the number one rule in hockey is :"Keep your head up!" And if you watch, most fights end with both guys smiling and congratulating the other guy on a good fight. Not all, but most. Now check out some Pavel Datsyuk. Number 13 from the Detroit Red Wings. The Magic Man. You've seen his little chip shot goal twice in your previous reactions. Best hands the NHL ever saw. I'm a biased Red Wings fan but it's still the truth!!!!!!! Good luck with your channel. You seem like a nice guy. Peace

@ibrahimwattar7216

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man !! Appreciate the support 😊😊 and thanks for the information and elaboration ! I will definitely need to react to some Don cherry and will add Pavel to the list too

react to "the code" it explains why fighting is allowed

Dude I wish you were old enough to have seen the great mario lemieux the most talented player ever to play any sport.

Fighting in hockey is allowed , because if the players mind is focused another player , it will not be focused on the game . So drop your gloves, take your shot, get it out of your system and get on with the game.

Imagine this playing out in real time with real speeds on display. This whole thing being in slow motion (super slow mo) takes away from the speed deployed by these players.

Had a coach tell us fighting was part of hockey because if we ever have to go to war it takes a lot longer to become proficient at hand to hand combat than it does to shoot a rifle. Being that we were pretty young still it was kind of funny how most of the team wasn't really sure if he was BSing or not.

Originally in the first ever recorded hockey game, the local curling team wanted the hockey players off the ice because they were cutting the ice up too much and they had gone over the hour they were scheduled for so they offered to fight over it and the hockey players won’t the fight. So fighting was always apart of the game and they just never took it out

They can go in the penalty box be suspended or get kicked out the sport for going too far in the fights... If you hit someone after they already got knocked down for example. However for the most part the NHL has kept players and teams that police themselves. If you go out of your way to keep cheap shotting a star player some stocky 6'7 tall 250 pound enforcer is going to come on the ice to deal with you. Cheap shots and dirty play is more likely to cause real injury or death than the scuffles you see. That's the idea anyway.

Losing a SuperStar to an illegal challenge in Soccer, Basketball is accepted. Touch or even think about hurting a Hockey Star, payback is 10 fold

Martin St-Louis comes and visits my neighbours every summer

I did a presentation on fighting in 8th grade it’s about self regulation do anything the other team doesn’t like and you will get beat up even if its not a penalty or it doesn’t get called

Fighting is the way that the players referee the game themselves. There's unwritten rules and if you break them, someone will fight you.

Great video! Will be nice once Covid gets under control and fans can attend hockey games! Im not an Ottawa fan but they are going to start getting good very quick. Lots of skilled prospects coming up the pipes.

@ibrahimwattar7216

3 жыл бұрын

Yea I can't wait till life goes back to normal !

@8JFJK8

3 жыл бұрын

@@ibrahimwattar7216 🙏🏼

Fighting is there because every one carries a weapon and some times players use that weapon as a weapon. The game is fast and physical so things get amped up quiet a bit. i played hockey for 55 years and have seen it all. You expect certain dangers and events in games when you play and accept it. But the dirty stuff with sticks and hitting from behind is not part of the accepted code of conduct. Too stop this dangerous practice hockey secretly endorses fighting. Necessary part of game. The pre meditated stuff has too go but its needed. Put it this way i was at a junior A game in Ottawa like 40 years ago( junior A players 16 to 20 years old). Incident breaks out players pile on top of each other etc. One guy gets out of the pile looks at buddy being held down by ref and makes a kicking motion at the dude on the ice. Not a big obvious wind up but he kicked at the guy. Every body saw it. The crowd was all hyped up because of the fighting going on and then the guy took that kick and there was dead silence. All hell broke loose after that. Needed in the game.

Its in the hockey unwritten code it is that way since 1922 that hockey players can Do themself justice by fighting but it usually end Up in a major penalty or expulsion of the game it is less and less happening because the goons (fighter players ) are getting out played by the pool of players getting more skillful at the game PS sorry about the Spelling i am a french Canadian so english isnt my first language 😁

@ibrahimwattar7216

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the explanation! I really appreciate it 😊👍🏻

That one "incredible" goal would have been waived off as a high stick (above the top bar on the net)

@doxify-_-5646

3 жыл бұрын

It didn’t tho for some reason (I’m a hockey fan)

@doxify-_-5646

3 жыл бұрын

Never mind I was thinking of a different goal without watching the video

@CunderThunt87

3 жыл бұрын

Ur right, but it was cool

Watch the video The Code. It explains fighting

Season is starting soon bro! Time to find a team to root for :D

@ibrahimwattar7216

3 жыл бұрын

Might be going for the leafs 😊

@mrbetter6128

3 жыл бұрын

Rangers baby!! LGR.

@idnem99

3 жыл бұрын

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@BaconNationChannel

3 жыл бұрын

Well obviously he needs to root for a local team, sens or leafs are pretty much it for him.

@idnem99

3 жыл бұрын

@@BaconNationChannel Well he doesn't NEED it to be a local team. But I understand if he went that route...

FYI THE STANLY CUP IS NOT JUST THE CHAMPIONS TROPY ... IT IS HISTORY RECORDED. EVERY PLAYER AND EVERY TEAM WHO HAS WON THE CUP IS ON IT. KEEP YOUR STICK ON THE ICE EH!

The special part of blocking shots is bravery. The one where he takes it on the back of the leg.... there’s no padding on the back of the leg.

@ibrahimwattar7216

3 жыл бұрын

Yea exactly ! That must have really hurt !

You gotta do NHL Best Commentary calls or moments!!!

@ibrahimwattar7216

3 жыл бұрын

That’s a great suggestion actually! Thanks 😊

@idnem99

3 жыл бұрын

@@ibrahimwattar7216 No problem, the only problem is it might be a lot of goals you've seen already. Most popular calls usually corresponds with it being a popular goal. But it could be a good video. Thanks for the Reply!

its call "the code" lots of vids on it

You should do a video reacting to the history of hockey. It’s a long one but super interesting

@ibrahimwattar7216

3 жыл бұрын

I’ll add that to my list then ! Thanks for the suggestion 😊

Greetings from Gatineau man!

@ibrahimwattar7216

3 жыл бұрын

Heyyy 😊 we are neighbors

Whoever made this vid hated the blackhawks hahahaha

Fighting isn’t quite as dangerous on ice compared to being on regular ground because the players can’t get solid footing on skates to really put their whole body behind their punches. The whole reason they grapple during fights is to keep their balance while swinging.

@native2139

3 жыл бұрын

Have you ever fought on skates?

Fighting is allowed to help police the game

Honestly fighting over a dispute, getting up and shaking hands is still semi common in rural canada here. There's a show called Letterkenny that is actually scarily accurate, and that's coming from someone who lives 45 minutes away from the town it takes place in 😅

Fighting is allowed in Hockey because its a way to avoid frustration as the game is really fast the referee cant sometime keep up and miss call that should have been penalty like dirty hit to the head trying to injure another player thereford it allowed player to evacuate the frustration and avoid thing to degenerate in even more dirty hit but if you want to know more about fighting in hockey theres a Documantary called "The Code" that explain everything 🙂

Why is there fighting allowed in hockey? Everyone has armor and a weapon. It is understood that, without respect to the game and opponent, it would simply be armed combat. So, if a player shows a lack of that respect, they do so knowing another player may grab their collar for a manual attitude adjustment. Used to be, and still should be, “I’ll see ya in 5min tough guy, if ya wanna try that again!!” Simply put, every player has to have their own “line in the sand” of sorts. That line is the border between an opponent playing you hard, and playing dirty. Inside that arena, the game will destroy you if you let it. When, not if, someone try’s that. They will continue until you stop them. Usually, win or lose, after a fight and a 5min breather, the game will clean up and settle down. Like both teams remember,”we could just beat the heck out of each other, but we’d rather win at hockey!”

@ibrahimwattar7216

3 жыл бұрын

Very informative man ! Thanks for the detailed clarification 😊 I actually filmed a reaction video on why hockey in allowed in hockey and will be uploading sometime soon as well

@Z_TPI

3 жыл бұрын

Very true. If you play dirty, be ready to drop the gloves. When I used to play, i was the team enforcer. Any dirty shit by the other team, i was sent after that guy. 90s NHL, every team had an enforcer. Now the game is more focused on speed and agility, but the players still police themselves.

Fighting has been used in various ways threw out the years, hockey from the 90’s look up Bob Probert Tie domi Marty mcsorley Or if you wanna dig deeper check out the time of Bobby Or, Maurice Richard how it used to be

Ibrahim do a Dustin Byfuglien hit reaction??

@ibrahimwattar7216

3 жыл бұрын

Yess I have him on my list already so I will be getting to it soon hopefully 👍🏻😊

Why is fighting allowed in hockey? Short answer: If fighting wasn't allowed as it is, then those big hits would be paid back with sticks being swung - which can do a LOT more damage.

As a Bruins fan that section from 9:15 to 9:30 is still hard to watch.

They let you fight in hockey because they released a long long time ago, that if they can't fight then they are skating around with a hockey stick "weapon" in their hands, and back then nobody on the team wore helmets. I think you can figure out the rest.

i am a huge NY Yankee fan but love hockey and of course the NY Rangers

Because hockey is so incredibly high tension, the p,Ayer’s have to find a way to relieve that

What was the first thing that jumped out at you when you attended your first NHL game? Most people I take to their first game tell me they can’t believe the speed of the game in person compared to on television.

Watch Anthony Peluso vs Luke Gazdic

Watch video named “the Code” unwritten rules nhl

@ibrahimwattar7216

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks ! I think I have that on my list so I should definitely get to it soon 😊

Hey brother you asked why fighting is allowed in hockey... just KZread "why fighting is allowed in pro hockey" and that will explain why, it's a really well done video about 4-5 minutes long... I think you'll like it... cheers

@ibrahimwattar7216

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 😊 appreciate the info bro ! I’ll check it out, thinking of reacting to it as well

@ZESCREATIVE

3 жыл бұрын

@@ibrahimwattar7216 react to it ill get ya a sub

Fighting if I have Gretzky on my team and you just start running him into the ground pounding him hard i can do the same to your best player and soon our 2 best players are out with injuries or I can beat the crap out of the offending player and that becomes the punishment you will receive ever time you run my Gretzky players regulate the game

fighting polices the game