Metric. Now we're talking!

@jolixir

2 жыл бұрын

Only way to go

Thanks for posting this. My Swanson Metric Speed Square arrived today and I am really looking forward to using it. Nice to buy a quality tool. Was £21 here in the 🇬🇧

Metric for the win! Thanks for the video

Beginner woodworker here dreaming to build my own house one day, you just opened my mind to a whole new world of perspectives. Thank you for your video and for making the use of this great tool understandable to us metric folks. Cheers from France.

Possibly the best tool ever invented

Nice work mate, yes I’m a metric person 👌🇦🇺

Thanks for making a video of translating using the metric system, because that's the system I live in and it's easier for me to understand. Great movie thanks :)

Thank you. i will use this for our homeschool.

Great job, thanks for putting this up. I have an imperial speed square, but use metric, so will buy a metric version. "decimetres", even centimetres, now I know why Americans get so confuses with metric. Down here in Australia we build in millimetres (if it's small), and metres if it's big. Dressmakers use centimetres. No idea who uses decimetres. ;)

@crpth1

6 жыл бұрын

Pete F - Decimeters, pretty much nobody use it professionally. Usually goes like this for the most common stuff. Civil construction - meters Carpentry - centimeters Mechanics/metal - millimeters What is nice in the metric system is that it's all the same numbers (value) either it's called meter, decimeter, centimeter or millimeters just move the comma, but the number itself don't change. :-)

@Gidjoiner

6 жыл бұрын

Hi, I've been a joiner/carpenter 33yrs, Here in England we use millimetres for joinery & carpentry, metres when it's a big number as Pete says, professionals never use centimetres, all builders merchants do the same & even quite a lot of the retail stores IKEA, B&Q etc.. imperial on some products, mainly boards like ply, mdf.. although many are becoming metric but still only described in millimetres.

@desthompson6721

6 жыл бұрын

stick to microns, millimetres, metres and kilometres - multiples of 1,000. Metre is the base unit. 0.001 metres is one millimetre. 0.001 millimetres is one micron. 1,000 metres is one kilometre

@booboo986

5 жыл бұрын

I know we're talking metric lengths, but I love how a 1 litre of *WATER* weighs a nice round 1 kilo. I think Metric is the only thing any good the French have given us, apart from the Citroen DS of course 😁

@PvtHaggard

5 жыл бұрын

Only if the water is 4 degrees centigrade

I think i need to go find one of those. Im in the Netherlands, so everything is metric. (Which is so much easier!). But i never saw one of these tools at our tool shops. Thanks for the thorough explanation!

@Bob1053

8 жыл бұрын

+Willem Kossen Hoi Willem - net een van Amezon (USA) gekocht! 25,95 inc. post. Niet in Nederland te krijgen!

@DUTCHHUSKY66Treesandforest

7 жыл бұрын

Baptist heeft ze. Greetz

@deelgaarddevil

5 жыл бұрын

aliexpress voor 3 euro, alle afmetingen kloppen en is goed geijkt

@71Splinter

5 жыл бұрын

I imported that metric one from US Amazon going on 10 years ago, but they are common in the uk now if you cant get them where you are.

@multibusa

4 жыл бұрын

Willem Kossen I know this is an old post an you’ve most likely sourced a metric square, but for those that may read this and want one of these squares metric or imperial, do yourself a very big favour and get yourself a Swanson roof square. They invented these extremely useful tools, but more importantly make the best quality roofing square I’ve ever seen. Even the aluminium is top speck any other brand is merely a cheap copy. You’ll pay a few more quid for a Swanson but you’ll thank yourself later. A quick tip, in the video you will have noticed the etched numerals are the same colour as the square which make them hard to read. I got a can of semi matt paint and sprayed the paint over the square. Once dry I got a small flat of wood with some 180 grit paper and sanded the paint off leaving the numbers black and easily visible.

Very well explained - thank you for taking the time to make the video.

Yes, the video about the speed square is fantastic and it was when I discovered you channel and once I purchased recently a metric speed square this new video will be very useful. Cheers from a metric country, Brazil!

That was really good, if you can do more videos in metric for the rest of the worl, it will be much appreciated

@EEJester1586

8 жыл бұрын

+Sarfraz Munir I try now to do all my videos in both now.

Thanks for the simple description, makes it understandable.

I grew up with the imperial system and over time have developed the knack of flicking back and forth between the two systems. Just hope I can get along with the metric speed square I recently ordered. Thanks for doing the vid, good info.

Thank you for that video. Very clear and helpful.Makes me want to get the ladders out.

I would have given my right eye for one of these when I was doing my Carpentry apprenticeship in the 1970's but they were unheard of in New Zealand and Australia too for that matter. When these two countries converted to the Metric system it was decided that the building industry only needed 2 increments, a course one and a fine one so they went with meters and millimeters and it works just fine. No centimeters and no decimeters. Roof pitches are now described in degrees and that works fine too.

@multibusa

4 жыл бұрын

Truth Seaker I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone use the term "decimetres". Centimetre’s never get used in the building trade, in fact used get laughter off site. Kids use centimetres at school. Places that deal with fabrics etc use centimetres. In fact when someone says something is 15 centimetres long I have think for a moment because I too only work in millimetres or metres. Even reasonably large lengths say for instance 1m 100mil, I’d always sat that piece of board needs to be 1100 mil wide. I was taught imperial at school and only learned metrification during my first few years of training and even when first learning the metric system, it was immediately apparent how easy it was to deal with measuring things with a vastly reduced chance of errors, except of course the 100 mil error which catches a few people out. Metric rules only tend to go down to 1/2 a millimetre unless your using a Incra rule which goes down to 1/4 of a millimetre. Often imperial rules show 64ths of an inch, which many people can’t even see let alone use a pencil to mark something out, it has to be a marking knife. Measurements do not need to go any more accurate than a 16th because timber swells and contract with humidity.

@DemPilafian

Жыл бұрын

In any kind of professional environment length will be in meters (m) or millimeters (mm). Centimeters (cm) are strictly for casual use, like telling someone your height. My height is 184 (one-eighty-four). I would never say I'm 1,840 (one- thousand-eight-hundred-forty) nor would I say I'm 1.84 (one-point-eight-four). Likewise, it's convenient in everyday use to say something like, _"Let's move the couch 20 cm closer to the window."_ However, cm have absolutely no place in engineering, design, science, research, regulations, etc. Context is important.

@MrBallefjongen

Жыл бұрын

@@DemPilafian I beg to differ. I think the usage varies around the globe. Here in the Nordic countries for example, millimetres, centimetres, decimetres or metres are all used professionally as well as more commonly in everyday language. Context matters of course, but they all have their usage. For instance, people describe their height by saying "I'm one and eightyfour" but also by saying "I'm 184 centimetres long". Most people would have no difficulty in having a more or less accurate, intuitive understanding of how long a mm, a cm, a dm or a m is.

@DemPilafian

Жыл бұрын

@@MrBallefjongen Interesting. Decimeters (dm) are so odd. Maybe use of decimeters is common in Nordic countries, but it will probably never be popular worldwide.

@MrBallefjongen

Жыл бұрын

​@@DemPilafian You are probably right that they won't be popular worldwide. But my point is that it varies around the world. For instance, when I made a 3D-print of a house for the company building the house, they specifically asked me to have all the distances measured in centimetres instead of millimetres, because cm is what their carpenters use. And to further explain how we use the different measurements in common parlance when we are trying to roughly estimate a distance - at least here in Sweden - we normally use the smaller scale until we reach the halfway point to the next measurement. Then we shift and say half whatever the next measurement is called. So you could say that something is about two or three centimetres long, but if the distance is longer than that, it is perfectly normal to describe it as being half a decimetre. And if the distance is around 100 mm, we would normally describe it as being about a decimetre. The same method applies to millimetres shifting to half a centimetre, then one, one and a half, two centimetres etc. Also one, two, three and four decimetres then shifting to half a metre etc. We even have a specifically Nordic measurement for 10 kilometres, called mile (Nordic mile), where we do the same shift in everyday speech: 3 kilometres, 4 km then half a (Nordic) mile. We seldom say 10 kilometres. To others all this might seem odd, but people here might have difficulties understanding the logic in other ways of describing measurement. To each their own I guess. Peace brother.

6 in 10 is a ratio. Divide 6 by 10 =.6 and the Inverse Tangent of .6 is 30°. That's what Tangent means, the ratio between the opposite and adjacent. The adjacent is the wall plate going out horizontally to the centre of the building and the opposite is the height from the end of that line to the ridge board.

@multibusa

4 жыл бұрын

G How Fek me, I hope don’t go around sites spouting that technical stuff, otherwise it’ll likely make experienced joiners feel inferior. :)

@royceeliseo3695

2 жыл бұрын

instablaster...

this will greatly improve my metric calculation abilities. thank.

Really well explained video. Been looking for info on how to use the speed square for rafter cuts and this is the best video by far :)

I found the channel thanks to the speed square video. In practice I think the Stanley Adjustable Quick Square has the advantage of setting an angle and avoiding to read and set out the angle at each cut ... until you get from common to hip rafter.

Well done. Great easy to understand explanations. Thank you

Great tips well explained I've bought one and now feel I can go ahead and try using it many thanks

This tool has to be one of my favorites. I'm not very good with it, but enjoy how versatile it is - and not a battery in sight. I have collection of them all in Metric, the Swanson, Empire and a Johnny Square. I also have a large plastic Empire.

Another classic video...It was easier to understand than your first one,simplified I guess...Please do more framing videos if possible...Oh and I used your technic to build the roof of my new tool shed..My tools are dry ,happy and thanking you!

Interesting to hear you say Protractor like we do in the UK as opposed to a Pro Tractor. Thanks for the video.

Thank you u touched on everything I think, but it answered a few of my questions

Excellent explanation, thank you very much.

Thank you for sharing this video,it was a big help for those people who want to learn more

Brilliant and clear.

Thank you very much for the vid. Very helpful!

congrat's on 1 million views. i use my speed square often, its the go to tool in the work truck. good explanation in the video

@EEJester1586

8 жыл бұрын

+Ozzstar Thanks man I would have never have believed it if I didn't see it.

The rippper feature is so simple....but awesome !

Great explanation 👍.

Great video. Thanks

Great video again I have got so much more use out of my speed square since you're others video on it thanks again for taking the time You're welding ones are great to I have been practicing doing OK in the flat but up hill not so good

@EEJester1586

8 жыл бұрын

+stand picking Thanks man. I've got a new video cam I think I can show better arc shots. Would you like me to do a video on welding tips? (Your using stick right?)

Bob from Holland here - Great stuff - extremely helpful! Couldn't buy it here, got ik from Amezon.

Great video, Thank You!

Those are the kind of speed squares i like you can actually see the numbers engraved in it

great video and will explained. thanks

Great stuff man !!

Awesome, thanks mate!

Thank you for another very informative video. I am not a tradesman, just an enthusiastic DIY'er who happens to work in Timber Trade. The speed square is not a common tool here in the UK, but with Globalisation in the tool trade and the increase of timber framing in construction here they are much more readily available. As the UK works with a mongrelised system using both metric and imperial measurements, this tool will be one to add to my toolbox. Not sure how often I will use it.. But

@DemPilafian

Жыл бұрын

I've read that the average height of a Brit is about 5 foot 19 cm.

Fantastic thank you for taking the time to do the metric version as well! :)

@myatix1

6 жыл бұрын

Another thing... You should add an affiliate link to your videos so if people click the link you get something out of it.

@EEJester1586

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip, but I do this to help people not for the money.

@myatix1

6 жыл бұрын

I understand that, but maybe people would like to support you! It doesn’t cost your viewers anything extra but you get some thinking that will help create more videos! It was just a thought! Great job and thanks! :)

@EEJester1586

6 жыл бұрын

Alan Hunter I do appreciate it means a lot. I will look into it.

congratulations, good job

You've Got Most Detail And Easy To Understand Instruction Channel I've Seen... You A Great Teacher... Keep Up The Great Work... You Got A New Subscriber And Many Likes... :-)

@EEJester1586

8 жыл бұрын

+Team RED Brushless BEAST Mode Thanks man.

Great video thanks!!!

Much appreciated!

Put your torpedo level and speed square "back to back" when finding the pitch. This way you don't need to guestimate towards a scribed line.

I have that metric speed square, i have never used the hip-val and common section, as we do our roof on degrees not the ratio way as you guys do , but great video!

Thanks for the video. Makes me laugh how we use a messy mix of metric and imperial in the UK.

Very helpful THANKS

Thx, now I know how to use it.

Thank you.

appreciae your video thanks man

Excellent video. One little remark however : metric is the standard..;) ATB - Marc - Belgium

@ahitler5592

4 жыл бұрын

Metric system 1cm = 10 mm 1m = 100cm 1km= 1000m Imperial 1 ft = 12 inch 1 yd = 3 ft Random and Dumb numbers

that was cool dude

I hadn't even realised there were metric speed squares. I'm used to either ratio in feet/inches or get the degree with trig but i can't see anyone working to /10 ratio's. Just checked the squares i have here in the UK and although i bought them both here (150mm and 300mm) they're imperial fractions for rafter layouts.

1000 thanks!

Hello Really enjoyed your metric speed square info FYI Empire tools which is now a subsidary of Milwaukee tools makes a metric speed square that is the same size as the original fits in your nail / tool bag real nice,Be well Nick PS I think the Empire metric square runs about 12-15 US dollars

@EEJester1586

8 жыл бұрын

+Nick Nichols Oh man. Thanks for the tip I'll have to get one of those.

Thanks man

Excellent, thank you. Mike bkk

Thanks for that CW. It's a wee bit confusing as in the UK we use metric but generally use millimetres & not centimetres(like other European countries), so 1 Metre would be 1000mm. This has always been the case since we started using the metric system on sites in the 70s.

@MegaTraianus

5 жыл бұрын

Carpenters in Europe also use millimeters. Instead of saying "2.6 cm", they will always say "26 millimeters".

Thank you so much for the valuable information. Follow up from Iraq. ..

I work for a maintenance company mostly welding old gates and fences Using a 220v DC 200amp small welder. Mostly set at 80 to 110 amps with 2.5mm Premium 6013 rods that's what the job supply Thanks really looking forward to your video

I have a question. Concerning the Swanson Metric Speed Square, is the EU202 the same product as the NA202? Or are they somehow different?

I will keep using the standard right here in the USA 🇺🇸

Super! I am from Ru 🇷🇺.

Hi Could you explain me once again about the pitch on this metric square?The Common mesurement is 1decimenter per meter? Is that right?THX a lot.

Thanks.. I am one of the 90%..

That would be great if you could yes I am using stick doing vertical welds I am struggling with they look like I was trying to pebble dash a wall Thanks again you are a gent

@EEJester1586

8 жыл бұрын

+stand picking No problem I'll get right on it.

@EEJester1586

8 жыл бұрын

+stand picking What type of welder, and welding rods are you using if you don't mind me asking. So I don't show something you don't have.

One thing I have noticed with some metric speed squares like this they still have a rise to run in inches per twelve like the original imperial speed square and some other metric squares have a centimeters per ten centimeters rise to run ,can get confusing.

Please do a review of crescent 2 in 1 square next.

You are awesome! I am a science teacher HS wanna bee wood worker, because my wife sees so much to repair on our house! Your video makes thing much easier to understand. I really like the metric system better, but I feel much more comfortable with the old method. I am converting all the time. which do you feel is a better way to start out? I like the smaller old version speed square better.

@EEJester1586

8 жыл бұрын

+Seagrovelane Well I grew up in inch's, so I'm very fond of them, but that is a personally choice. It's harder to use feet, and inch's but I'm used to it, so I like it better. The smaller square I like better the main reason is because it fits in a back pocket.

I have a little project on. Building a pitched roof porch that cuts into my existing pitched roof on my workshop. I can understand everything about cutting the rafters etc but I cannot see how to calculate the angles of the valley rafters where they meet the common rafters on my workshop roof.

@EEJester1586

5 жыл бұрын

roontunes kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZquG0LiegdHUnrw.html this may help.

@briangordon1767

5 жыл бұрын

Find the pitch of your existing roof in degree and set the sole plate of your circleure saw to that angle and that's the cheek cut on your valley rafters

@roontunes

5 жыл бұрын

thnk you @@briangordon1767

Only thing I notice is the lack of the diamond that is on the imperial. Is there an equivalent on the metric?

Just so i understand correctly, on the metric speed square, the common rafters are 10cm of rise per 1meter of run, and the hip/valley rafters are 14cm of rise per 1 meter of run? This is extremely helpful, as i use the metric system where I live, and have yet to find clear instructions on how a metric speed square works. Thanks for the help

@simonk4322

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, did you find any instruction in the metric system that explains it exactly?

i translated the manual of metric square onto Russian. it said to use same number of rise for commons and hips\vals.

@EEJester1586

8 жыл бұрын

+аралтан манджиев It may have said that, but it is different. You can try to cut a hip on the common readout, but I don't think it will fit really well. It won't be off much, but it will hurt your fit up. Thanks for the comment.

@user-yv9om5nq1d

8 жыл бұрын

The same number but on different scales. Suppose you make 5 in 10 roof. You then cut commons using 5 on commons scale and cut hips using 5 on hips scale. Very simple and handy.

@EEJester1586

8 жыл бұрын

+аралтан манджиев Yes your right. Sorry if I confused you.

How can I use a metric framing square to build common rafters with a 1875 mm run and a 600 mm rise

@EEJester1586

6 жыл бұрын

www.blocklayer.com/roof/rafter.aspx It will be close to 4/12 pitch.

@johngardiner4843

6 жыл бұрын

Classic Work what would that convert in metric terms

@johngardiner4843

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your help, could you do the same and run through a metric framing square , to explain how to set rise and run in a metric ,ie 4/12 this is imperial.

@Brennan009

6 жыл бұрын

convert 4 inches to mm and 12 inches to mm. 101.6/304.8

@johngardiner4843

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that , in my head I thought that to be the case but that seemed to easy.

I have one, and I live I Brazil. As soon as I heard of the Swanson speed square (by the way, why is it a square if it's a triangle?) I knew I had to have one. So I got a swanson-"ish" metric speed square. Unfortunately, Imperial measures to us are very confusing, especially if some tools work better in one system, and other tools work better in the other. It's about time we unified that.

@EEJester1586

6 жыл бұрын

Mad -Pac Well a triangle is half a square you don't need all of it to make it work. As far as Imperial versus metric they both work. I don't understand people getting all mad say metric is better because it is not. It is different. I work both and most people that work metric don't even use half of the other measuring units. Everybody knows millimeters and meters. But not centimeters and decimeters. If your looking for someone that only use metric you've come to the wrong place.

@BrazilianGaucho

6 жыл бұрын

Well, personally I would say metric is better because you just multiply or divide things by 10 and you get precise results. But then I'm biased because I've used metric all my life. The point is you should stick to one system. Having some tools in metric and some in Imperial is a recipe for future headaches. Imperial is rarely used nowadays, except for the US and one or two other countries, but since the US is a technological and industrial power I often find some interesting tool (like the one in this video) and then I realize, oh crap, inches! We also have issues with drills and it's a nuisance. We always get a weird broken number for the diameter like 4,76 mm or something, and measures lower than one millimeter are only used if you're working with extreme precision in tiny dimensions (and then we enter the universe of nanometers and micrometers). As for which units are used, in Latin America we use meters, centimeters and millimeters. I find decimeters an oddity, since people would much rather refer to a 30cm ruler or a "1 meter 82" tall man. Anyway, I didn't come here for the metric system, evidently, but to learn about the tool, which sparked my curiosity. Nice video. Keep the good work.

@gammondog

6 жыл бұрын

Because the angle is ninety degrees we call it a "square angle". Hence "speed square"!

Nice work ,funny comment "i didn't know they made a metric speed square" what world do you live in lol

Tell me how would you find out the pitch of the roof with the roof already on. 1 Love

@EEJester1586

2 жыл бұрын

You can climb up to your eave pull your square on the (shingles or tin) pivot and place a short level on the back of your square when the level is level look at the slot where the common is and see what number it lines up with on the roof. most common are 3/12--4/12--6/12 hope that helps.

@tonybrown7167

2 жыл бұрын

@@EEJester1586 Thank you for explaining it to me. You wouldn’t believe how many times I messed up that cut again thank you. 1 Love

Centimetres 'not' decimeters ffs...how you guys in the states think all your fractions and divided sizes are easier than any/everything being easily divisible by ten, i will never know??? But i suppose it's down to what you were first taught, and after all, what is the best 'in practice' for you and your work, is the best system....period! . Although we disagree on specifics, i appreciate the informative tone of your vid. Thanks.

@parttimevandalz7558

4 жыл бұрын

@ss haha... glad it wasnt just me

Where can I buy this product/tool? Here in the Philippines, this tool is not being use and popular. Our carpenters do not use this. I want to own one because I am sure this is very helpful technically.

Can you make the same video, but for European use with European standards?

Thanks for sharing your knowledge. This video was very instructive. What is the reason for the metric speed square so much bigger than the imperial one? That's not very practical. I wonder if there are already some addresses in Continental Europe, where the metric speed square can be bought? Preferably already the same dimension as the classic imperial one.

@crpth1

6 жыл бұрын

+Hans de Groot - I got my from ebay. Made in China I presume. It's a 7"/180mm if I recall correctly. I bet there are other sizes available. :-)

why does this one come without the diamond cut

Is it Swanson NA202 ?

good video ,though confused me when you used centimetres use mm in uk so 5cm so we say 50mm just to cause more confusion lol thanks anyway

@tishbrett

3 жыл бұрын

We use mm not cm in au aswell much easier

the Internets sexiest hands

@EEJester1586

5 жыл бұрын

C C hahaha thanks I think.

@EmGemGames

5 жыл бұрын

put a ring on it

What's that watch model, if you don't me asking?

@EEJester1586

5 жыл бұрын

Seiko Solar Chronograph.

I'm not sure why they don't use mm and cm instead of decimetres?

Can't you put the level over the speed square instead of drawing a line?

@EEJester1586

8 жыл бұрын

+Alejandro Tejeda You can. There are a lot of ways of doing it that was just the way I like the most.

"do u know why they called it royale with cheese in paris?" Ürmm, because of the metric system?" "Check out the big brain on brad!"

I laughed when he said metric and standard lol to most of the world metric is standard and imp is the odd one out 🤔😂

Great video. I think you meant to call it "Basics," though.

@EEJester1586

8 жыл бұрын

Oh dang thanks for telling me I sure didn't notice haha.

@f.demascio1857

8 жыл бұрын

+Classic Work No worries. Keep the videos coming.

Hahaha some of us in the metric world still work in feet and inches,actually I use both.

Where to find a metric speed square. come to Australia

Ah-ha very good, being as imperial run is 12" I have often wonder what length is used for the metric run; my guess was one meter. Now I know for metric it is one decimeter, a.k.a.10 cm. FYI, you correctly use the term one decimeter, yet for some imperial folks it may confuse them. A meter length is 100 cm, one-tenth of 100 cm is 10 cm thus one decimeter. On another unrelated note, knowing "deci" means one-tenth, when one says "oh the area was decimated", that statement would indicate one-ten of the area not the entire area so what happened to the other 90 percent of the area. Rather than use decimated a better word could be obliterated and the like. Also, decimated was used for the killing of one in every ten of a group as in soldiers as a punishment of the whole group.

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