Bonus episode: An interview with Gary Neptune, the original owner and founder of Neptune Mountaineering, an iconic climbing and ski shop in Boulder, Colorado. If you're a climber and you've been to Boulder, chances are you've been to Neptune Mountaineering and know what a special shop it is. Host Kevin Riley speaks to Neptune about the evolution of gear and retail over the years, and how gear has changed the sport for better or worse. Presented by Black Diamond. Music by Small Houses: smallhouses.band/