So sad looking at this....what on earth was our politicians thinking back then. These were the BEST years compared to todays way of life. All those beautiful lines and places now mostly only accesable by road...so sad so very sad.

@adelestevens

5 ай бұрын

What politicians were thinking was this. You had ministers of transport who were either directly or indirectly associated with road transport industries and governments that wanted to follow American practices of increasing car ownership to support the car industries and the general British economy.. A more affluent British population wanted to "buy into" the individual freedom of car ownership. Trains bad , cars good was the message from government and industry andvthe people fell for it..a little like Brexit.

Wonderful. I walked most of the line in 1972 with my dad, all was intact, just waiting for a train which never came (until the demolition train in about 1977) Grass swaying between the red rusted rails in the summer breeze, a ghostly sight, completely abandoned, only a few gulls and skylarks, a fox and some grasshoppers for company on our lonely walks.

@stephenchappell7512

Жыл бұрын

Idyllic description I don't remember much of the 70's being born in 68 but the memories I do have hint at a much more happier and proud (although impoverished) nation and people

How could they close a line that was being so well used? Crowds of people at every station. An utterly mad decision. 😢

What we have lost. I look at those excited holiday-makers with their suitcases and see my own childhood.

i traveled this line many times as a youngster under the supervision of the gaurd as my father died while working on this line he was based at barnstable town and junction so my mother moved to north yorkshire to be near her parents but sent me many times to stay with my grandparents at ilfracombe i was born in ilfracombe and think of it as my home town . yes that beeching man and others have a lot to answer for its a shame it closed

Would be massively popular if the line was still today. Barnstaple gets badly snarled up with traffic.

@chriswalford4161

Жыл бұрын

…even out of season.

@michaelnewman1920

2 ай бұрын

Ilfracombe is dying

Having not long ago cycled this route, it's amazing to see what was once there. Priceless footage of a line gone forever.

Very interesting film. Too young to remember Ilfracombe trains then, but remember seaside holidays at Exmouth, Dawlish and Sidmouth in the 70s and 80s, when the beaches were packed. Nice to see everyone was so well dressed in the late 60s/early 70s. This amateur footage is so valuable.

What a smashing clip of a railway no more,We were up at woolacombe back in may of this year and i took the dog for a walk along the old trackbed and thought about the trains....such a shame it's all gone

Stopping us from enjoying the simple pleasure of going to the seaside on a train

I did this journey countless times. Wonderful to see the glorious countryside and stations again. Slade was a particularly picturesque part of the journey. Thank you so much for uploading this!

Fantastic, I've been waiting for years for somebody to post a film of this lovely line lost to us back in the 70's. I used to stand at braunton gates as a boy and see these giant warships thunder by. Great memories! Well done

@mikebutler3263

Жыл бұрын

Me too !

@robert321ish

Жыл бұрын

And me then they stopped. Still remember the steam

If Ilfracombe survived Beeching it should never have been closed later! Totally crazy!

Awesome... I never saw the line working but when on holiday I did play on its abandoned remains when it was all in tact in the mid 70s... so sad... I have collected some nice single line key tokens off the route... beautiful film, in fact a treausure

Born and bread in Barnstaple my father was stationed at Chivenor 1944/45 my mother used the railway line with us kids to go to Staunton & Woolacombe I remember it well lovely memories superb countryside proud to be Devonion & a Barnum Boy 🇳🇬👍🍺🏉

Worked at the Lee Bay Hotel in the summer of 1972. a little west of Ilfracombe. Trains gone by then but saw the tracks. I was 26. Bus into ilfracombe on day off. On the Buses at the cinema.

It's amazing how many people got off the train at Ilfracombe, even Jackie Kennedy (@3.12), and then they close the line, utter madness!

RIP D809 Champion & D814 Dragon. Good footage of a lost era. Thanks for posting!!

I have great memories of holidays in Ilfracombe 1963 to 1965. Always enjoyed a visit to the station to collect a few engine numbers. In those days it was Bulleid Pacific steam locos. A great film recording a now, long lost world. Seeing the curved drive up to Ilfracombe station has made my day.

@revol148

8 жыл бұрын

....and looking back if you could afford to go to Cyprus, Spain or Italy would you have done so in preference to a town on the edge of exotic Bristol channel? I grew up in the late 1970's early 1980's and trust me holidaying in the UK was something to be avoided at all costs.The British coastline is dire unless the sun is shinning which most of the time it isn't.

@neilb4425

8 жыл бұрын

Well, I doubt we would have gone to Cyprus in 1963 to 1965 as it was a war zone in those days. As far as Italy is concerned my parents did that in the 50's. Not bothered about Spain. During the years 1963 to 1965 I was 8 to 10 years old my recollection of the weather was long sunny days. I am not bothered by rain I live in the Lake District. I accept that by the 1980's Ilfracombe had faded as a resort, in the early 60's it was fine.

What a great piece of film, not being old enough to remember these lines its amazing to see what they were like whilst open, having been to Barnstaple recently its hard to believe the railway ever passed over the river at all as so little evidence remains. Thanks for sharing a wonderful film

Very nicely filmed - it reminds me of my 8mm standard eight filming days - all filming shots were so precious and it was great to see the film projected onto a screen in our living room.

My heart stopped when I saw this footage. Many of my holidays were spent around this line, both then and now. In my youth I loved trains and in recent years I have rekindled that interest. I dont have memories of the Line beyond Barnstable as it had gone except for the small bit of track left around the army base and the old station on the road to woolacombe, and off course the Barnstable Town Station buildings. And the Warship, those majestic Hydraulics what a treat. Thanks you so much.

I remember being held up by trains going through Braunton on our way to Croyde Bay (62-76) sweet childhood memories...halcyon days!

This is the route I wish I could have taken, behind steam, more than any other route in England. Thanks.

Memories of trains gone by! Let's hope they return again one day?

Nice video,brought back memories of a holiday to Ilfracombe in the late 60s,waiting 3 hours at Exeter St Davids for the Ilfracome train at 8am.When we got to Ilfracombe a chap in a van gave our family a lift down to the centre of town,would'nt take any money.Would'nt get that today.Shame its all gone now.

Superb! Loved every second of it,a refreshing change to have silence and no music dubbed over the film. The quality does not matter one bit,its how things were. Its a shame the west country lost so much of its rail network,if only most of those lines still existed and the benefits they would have bought to the communities.

Thanks for a great film! I started work in Ilfracombe in 1963 and had a few trips from Torrington to Ilfracombe--until I bought Viking 'Severn Valley' bike. Then I cycled to and from Torrington alongside the track in places--great memories. Many thanks.

Such a shame that this line closed as the local council now wish that the line was still there. Ilfracombe as a holiday destination declined drastically after the railway closed. John Howard Turner once said to me that the line only ever lost money one year and during the last war.Just before it closed track was renewed at a cost of 1.25 million. Some of this new rail can be seen holding back the new sustrans cyclepath to Braunton. It is very clear from this old film that should still be and use!

I lived in Braunton way back in the late 1960s early 70s residing at 10b Abbotts Hill and working at Taw Garage in Barnstaple. I knew the line well... Such a shame that it was closed as today it would be a top tourist attraction making a fortune...

Thank you for sharing the film - my dad took me (aged 12) on one of the last Barnstaple - Ilfracombe trains so we may even be on one of these. the line meant a lot to my parents so it brings back many memories of that summer.

@cliffordgregory6255

9 жыл бұрын

Neil Harris Glad you enjoyed it and sorry at the time that I couldn't make a better job or it with longer sequences but 8mm film was extremely expensive. Pity I couldn't do it all over again with video.

A wonderful record of the line. Such a waste, when it had survived the Beeching axe, yet still didn't escape closure later on.

Why on earth would you want to close such a beautiful streatch of railway and would be so much used today. The Victorians laid down a Blue print for us to destroy.

@KempSimon

3 жыл бұрын

Because the cost of providing the train service between Barnstaple and Ilfracombe was vastly greater than the income from ticket sales, since the trains ran almost empty for nine months of the year and there was an alternative road 'bus service?

lovely piece of film of a line that should still be there. With good marketing it could be busy 9 months of the year and reasonable for the rest. The diesel hydraulics look good too!

Except for the shot of the Town Gates the clips of Barnstaple Town and beyond were filmed on three consecutive Saturdays so far as I can remember. The intro bit approaching Barnstaple could have been shot at any time. I had no idea viewers would be so interested in detail so if I mislead you I apologise.

Great . I was on the last train that ran on that line as a boy .Many thanks Tony

Done this line back in the 50/60s great mix of WR and Southern steam locomotives

Very , very nice piece of film, thank you.

And the congestion on the roads is at an all time high in Barnstaple and Braunton with a lethal link road to boot. Such a shame that the rail lines closed. I was a kid when they converted it all to the Tarka Trail.

We went to Barnstaple back in 1972! There was a shop selling things for funds to save the Railway. Unfortunately someone made off with all the money donated so the plan vanished! Do not get me started on the North Devon Link Road? Yes the most pathetic excuse for a dangerous piece of crap on the planet!! Bring back the Railways to North Devon.

I remember walking along the old track in June 1977 from Ilfracombe, all the rails had been lifted and the station had been demolished by then

Considering the number of passengers that got off at Ilfracombe I assume Dr B massaged numbers after he sampled selected journies where he knew passenger numbers would be light. Naughty Dr B ! - and you from Maidstone Grammar School ! Of course the real crime here was not to stop the service but to make it impossible to re-open by lifting the tracks. Good video despite all that.

Thanks.

Lovely look back in time,look how smart everyone was.

Excellent, shame no sound, but beautifully shot. Makes us realise what we have lost!

Re-open the line

Wonderful film; great quality for 8mm

One of the main excuses used by BR in those days for closing these lines was that nobody used them anymore!! Look at all of those people pouring onto those platforms!! That 1 train alone in its journey took probably at least 100 cars off the roads, possibly more!! We must have been completely insane and very short sighted to adopt the policy of line closure in the UK. Today we're now paying the price with heavily congested roads and motorways!!

Thank you for your comment and interest. Yes indeed most of the branch lines around the south west suffered from British Rail's flawed method of accounting. Sadly everything west of Barnstaple is gone now and the former junction station reduced to a single line. Not even a run-round loop so loco and stock trains are no longer a possibility. As for the junction yard, it is now occupied by a Tesco supermarket.

@Isochest

3 жыл бұрын

Government thinking a toy train set layout is adequate 😡🤢🤮

@michaelnewman1920

2 ай бұрын

No thanks either to WR who decimated the LSWR routes in Devon and Cornwall

Watch this space! Some proposal to lay track at Slade near Ifracombe. Light Rail called Tawlink.

Beautifully filmed by 8mm amateur standards. Lineside shots and views from various trains. The line had already been drasitally rationalised, which adds to the feel. - And people want the dead-hand of BR back!

Trains 🚊 ran from Barnstaple to Ilfracombe via Braunton for 96 years from Sunday 20th July 1874 until Saturday 3rd October 1970. They won’t be coming back to Ilfracombe anymore. 😄

Never knew it crossed over by the old bridge. I always assumed it came over the iron bridge at Rock Park.

Fascinating film. Seeing all the passengers get off the train at Ilfracombe and then the number of people get on the train, you have to think that the mandarins at the DoT and BR totally ignored the fact that all these people would then probably buy cars and clog up the roads of north Devon. If only they had the foresight to leave the track formation down, it could have been opened up again the 90's and would no doubt be very popular today, giving the communities a good transport link back down to Barnstaple and Exeter. I assume this train was Waterloo bound?

Thanks for the comment burnleyfan11965. I wouldn't pretend that the situation in winter was anything other than pretty grim. Elsewhere on KZread I have posted a poor quality piece of film entitled 'Winter Train to Ilfracombe' which on arrival at Ilfracombe shows only the postman waiting for it.

Nice job, gone maybe, but nice to see here!

Nice video, thanks. You'd never believe that this line was shut because of lack of use, would you? Trouble is, like so many Devon branches, the high usage was very seasonal. Must have been a disaster for the town, the hotel trade and the many retired residents in Ilfracombe from1970 onwards - it's not the easiest place to reach by road. I can personally recall the Seaton Branch in East Devon during it's last full Summer in 1967. Much the same thing. Packed with tourists, mostly from London and the Midlands, changing at Seaton Junction from the old South Western rail line from Waterloo. Many were passengers for the Warner holiday camp. Didn't save it though. Many trains ran with less than a dozen passengers in Winter.

ps dvd link doesn't seem to work?

Chris I found your video fascinating for a variety of reasons. However I suspect that the views were not all shot on the same Saturday in 1970. The views of 829 Champion are working the Summer Saturday London train. If the edits are in chronological order then it shows 3 trains prior to this (a Hymek hauled train, then Warship 814 Dragon and another Hymek). There were only 3 earlier trains to Ilfracombe and the first arrived in Barnstaple at 0508 and would not have passed a DMU near Barnstaple.

Great footage ,such a terrible shame that this line and the Torrington lines closed. Judging by the amount of passengers it should never have closed ..how much money has been spent on roads .

Now that was a busy line that summer saturday,what it was like on a wet and windy tuesday afternoon in january we dont know,but there was a case for at least running it during the summer with maybe a restricted service on non summer weekdays

The Portsmouth Arms was an interesting little station on this line ( ? ) now , no more ...

Thanks for that !! They must have had a few Warships knocking around or was the filmers intention to grab them only ?

@cliffordgregory6255

9 жыл бұрын

I filmed over two or three weekends and by coincidence the locos were almost all warships. I had a couple of Hymek clips but they would not have edited in well.

Another victim of Beeching's giant axe - and all those passengers, too! Yes it may be a bonus for cyclists like me to cycle along the Tarka Trail, but I'd far rather have the trains still running.

@bermudarailway

5 жыл бұрын

Beeching did not close this line in was Castle !

@stephenchappell7512

2 жыл бұрын

@@bermudarailway Nah Castle was Labour This line was closed under Ted Heath's watch

The fact is, even by the standards of the day the branch line journeys were tediously slow. Cornwall Railway Society's website has a timetable from Taunton to Barnstaple and Ilfracombe, showing a journey time of 2hrs 44mins from Taunton to Ilfracombe. The last time I went from home just outside Taunton to the Pall Europe factory on the site of the old Ilfracombe station it took me 54 minutes. I suspect in the old Cortina in the video it wouldn't have taken more than 90 mins.

@chriswalford4161

Жыл бұрын

Maybe; but who wants to rush helter-skelter to Ilfracombe when you can trade that for a couple of scenic hours via Exeter and the Taw valley? …especially in a Viva.

Excellent historic amateur filming. I don't know about BR wasting money on unnecessary track renewals, but i found it astonishing that BR expected to save much money by singling it all especially without also modernising the level crossings.

There you are, thanks very much, what's this, it's a window sticker that says we've been to Ilfracombe. Harry worth comedy clip

The line from Barnstaple to Ilfracombe should never have been closed. In this video note the passenger numbers at Ilfracombe. When the line closed Ilfracombe must have noted a decline in visitors and holiday makers. I reckon the line from Barnstaple to Ilfracombe should be reopened not only for the inhabitants of Ilfracombe but the many people who would just simply like to holiday in Ilfracombe arriving by train.

what railway station is at 4:12?

@cgpaddock

8 жыл бұрын

That is Ilfracombe outside with taxis and cars arriving and inside with passengers being held until the train has been cleared of rubbish etc.

@revol148

8 жыл бұрын

I'm guessing all that has been demolished as I have cycled down the track bed a few years ago and it ends at some streets of terraced housing? Surprised you mention that the train was been cleared of rubbish as both of my parents remember using branch line steam trains in the early 1950's and mentioned they were generally filthy, late, cold in the winter and generally expensive hence as soon as they could they got cars (like most of the population who questioned why people wax lyrical of the so-called good old days of British rail).

why did they close it look at the holiday crowds?

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@oldgoat5589

2 ай бұрын

If comments weren't peppered with pointless and unnecessary emojis, they'd be a lot easier to read. Good nostalgic video, though.

Oh how I would've loved to go by train on my upcoming holiday in ilfracombe but because politicians didn't have the foresight I'm faced with a long drive from the North West of England down crowded motorways and A roads!

What a fantastic piece of film. Very busy too for a line that's about to close, clearly another stupid decision

Another lost line thanks to Dr Beaching

Oops ... the Portsmouth Arms is still alive - n- kicking ( it's before Barnstaple ! ) ...

@cliffordgregory6255

2 жыл бұрын

Did I mention Portsmouth Arms in this film? I don't think so. As my father was Station Master at Umberleigh and covered Portsmouth Arms in his remit, I iknow where it is and that it is still open for business.

Cliff would you give permission for your film to be shown at a local railway society meeting?

@cgpaddock

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, no problem. Thanks for asking. Some fold have copied it and reposted it on another site after stripping it of my copyright notice so I do appreciate your asking.

Is there a full length version of this? Having cycled what's left of it, keeping an eye open for what remains of railway paraphernalia, etc, and videoed my cycle ride in full here kzread.info/dash/bejne/dm1-l9Ofk92wl5M.html, I'd love to compare side by side.

All that video says to me is trashed infrastructure, very very sad 😢

I can beat that how about 1935 till 1939? The train looked busy enought why close it? This line looked good to be privately owned an run

@marcdavey

8 жыл бұрын

+Brian Fairey Because Beeching did the research during the winter with less passengers using the line that justified him to close the line, if the research was done during the summer months the line might has survived the cut.

@jagman84

8 жыл бұрын

It was done in the February half-term holidays, where the schools traffic would be removed, making the patronage much less on rural lines. Ernest Marples wanted the railways reduced in favour of road building. He just happened to have such a construction company, although it was registered in his wife's name.

@revol148

8 жыл бұрын

this is highly questionable: Most people are not interested in trains witness the amount of people who fled them for private cars in the late 1950's early 1960's.Trains should be made to pay - that coupled with an assault on private transport is the only way to get the travelling public to understand that cars are a luxury we can no longer afford as seen by the way they have ruined all cities across the world - apart from Singapore which has at least made an effort to curb their use.

penalising popularity

Let’s not forget Barbara Castle She closed down the majority of lines. Not Marple, The labour government 64 to 70 did the majority of the damage. You cant blame marple for that.

Looking at the numbers getting off the train - it looks like it was gross stupidity to close it. And a vital link lost when snow stopped other traffic from moving .