Gordy hit the big time with the bark box. Great exhaust, awesome little company.

@HowlingHollowOutdoors

Жыл бұрын

For sure!

@noclass2gun342

10 ай бұрын

Egan Performance is another one to check out... the straight shot is a lot more rowdy sounding

I have built a lot of two stroke motors. Porting, window's in the piston, gas porting the rings, all have there place. But as an exhaust goes, nothing beats an expansion-chambered exhaust. The back pressure on the exhaust pulse is what makes the power.

@alanmeyers3957

Жыл бұрын

Correct and do you know why? It has to do with temperature, I’m working on an exhaust cooler, just not enough room in a working saw,

@PekyMF

Жыл бұрын

Do u need change other things if u put barkbox, or it could stay normally?

@noclass2gun342

10 ай бұрын

@@PekyMF with the bark box and the egan straight shot no, for something a little more wild, yeah you would... these were made for working saws. where you really see the performance gain is in the mid range

@keemez

8 ай бұрын

you may have built some engines, but you sure as frick didn't pay attention in grade school

@timtorkelson7201

8 ай бұрын

Video of dyno on tube somewhere, figure .6-.7% gain😉

My neighbors hate mine haha

@timothysullivan4130

11 ай бұрын

😂🤣👍👍yeah mine to, especially when I fire up my 500i at 8am.

@edwindude9893

7 ай бұрын

F*ck em !

I removed my bark box after a few weeks it was far too loud and when felling i had enough of the fumes in my face but the three point felling dogs are fantastic.

It really helped my 362 wake up. Haven't had any issues with the sound or fumes.

Deffo didnt bog down, sounds luvly!💪💪👍👍

I'm glad I got mine, It's a nice piece for sure.

Only the sound is worth the hype. I run the bark box on my 461

For the quick and easy bolt on power best bang for your buck. I have one on my 462 really like how it runs.

Hey HHO ! Catfish here ! Some nice buckin on a beautiful day ! We have a beautiful day in Central New York once a month ! Whether we need it or not ! Nice video !

@HowlingHollowOutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Hey Catfish! Haha yeah that’s about how often the sun pokes out around here too. Thanks for watching!

Never heard of the bark box, but i need to look into it. Thanks for sharing.

@two5seven14

Жыл бұрын

You won’t regret it. Throttle response is off the chain. Tune your carb to it or you will boil your gas ✌🏻

@timtorkelson7201

6 ай бұрын

. 6-10% power gain! Ear plugs a must!

@timtorkelson7201

6 ай бұрын

Love mine! His 3 pt dawgs are great too! Just received his updated Uni filter ( Christmas present to me)😂

If any of you all ever been married before you've had a bark box

I have a 038 pro stihl logging saw that I ported and it ran great with my port work and basically a stock muffler with a little mod , but when gordy at west coast saws come out with that bark box I had my saw dyoned it made 7.8 hp with the bark box I was blown away they definitely make great products .👍

@alanmeyers3957

Жыл бұрын

Holly sh*t, really? Out of an 038, they were a popular and good firewood saw but that much power, hard to believe, good for you 👍

@Whateva67

2 ай бұрын

How did you get a bark box for the 038? I have an 038 magnum 2 but haven’t seen anything on their site about an exhaust for that old of a saw.

New chain cuts those logs like butter and you really know how to let the saw do its job. So impressed with the Bark Box might put one on my electric saw, LOL !!! Stay Safe!

@alanmeyers3957

Жыл бұрын

Bark battery!

I always wear earmuffs so I think I'll get one of those for my ms660 magnum.

I run the bark box on my 462 and 661. They are totally different saws after installation. You should try the West Coast 3pt felling dogs. They are wicked sharp and keep the saw in the cut.

@timtorkelson7201

Жыл бұрын

Use both on my 462, love em & the saw!!!

Maybe I missed it but did you re tune the saw ?

I have a bark box on my 460 and an exhaust port on my 261 and it's a good modification to make.

I would like to see a dyno run with and without using both mufflers. I raced motorcycles for enough years to realize to get a gain at a certain RPM you usually lose at another RPM unless an engine is just choked off with the exhaust pipe. Not usually the case. Most have the problem with the intake. Porting can be the problem also. Loud may seem faster but it not always faster. Every different saw may react differently to the same modifications.

Bark box is nice because cheap power bump. The fumes do suck when you have it left side down. Good for cutting in the woods but not for residential.

Hi sir,,,please show how you adjust carburetor after change bark box,thanks

For best results add their air filter

WCS products are very good quality I’m just not a fan of the bark box. Too loud and I don’t like the way they look on the saw. I prefer to modify the factory muffler, their universal exhaust ports work great. Good flow without being overly loud.

@alanmeyers3957

Жыл бұрын

Flow is good on the bottom but for high end power, they need an expansion chamber to cool the exhaust.

@cobre7717

Ай бұрын

@alanmeyers3957 expansion chambers do not cool the exhaust. It does capture exhaust gas and stuff it back into the exhaust port at a specific time. Right before the piston closes on the compression stroke. Expansion chamber design takes into account the speed of the exhaust pulse and the speed depends on the exhaust gas temperature. The amout of performance gains depends on the shape and placement of expansion chamber in ratio to header and tailpipe/ stinger. You can fabricate an expansion chamber to hit at low speed rpm or hit at higher rpm. You can design it in other ways. You may want an increase in power over a broad rpm range for a fixed gear. or a specific rpm range if you have a sequential gearbox like a motorcycle or car. That way you can pick an appropriate gear to keep the engine rpm in the correct chamber rpm specifications.

Did you adjust your high speed needle? It might just be extra leaned out from moreair going through it than before

@hecticgerva1192

Ай бұрын

This saw is auto tuned.

Must wear double hearing protection (form fitted ear plugs and grade 5 muffs) ... they are verrrry noisy ....A great Mod ...have them on my 460, 660,880 running square ground .... For some reason the 460 runs the best ...scary fast.

Now get a 32 inch stihl light bar. Save your back and knee’s from bending and squatting

@russbatzer6970

Жыл бұрын

"Stand up and buck!" 🤙

@metlheaddrumr

Жыл бұрын

That's a pussy way to saw if you are not strong don't fucking use a saw

@ToddAdams1234

11 ай бұрын

@@russbatzer6970it’s just a real thing because I do it and it works, but I’m careful because I don’t like dulled chains. BTW, I sharpen by hand!

Mate as someone who’s older than you , please wear ear protection at all times , you’ll regret it in 20 years if you don’t. Nice saw.

My 661 is wild with a BB.

Rock the saw more !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love that saw and sound of that bark box. How do you like the 462 overall? I'm thinking of grabbing one but like to hear from owners of them and their opinions. Great video 👍

@HowlingHollowOutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Great saw light weight and packed with power

@famasmaster2000

Жыл бұрын

@Howling Hollow Outdoors awesome, thanks. I think you helped me make a decision . I've wanted one for a while now, thanks again

@chompers11

Жыл бұрын

You like it more than the 461?

@alotl1kevegas860

Жыл бұрын

​@@chompers11 Curious myself. I have a ms461 now, but have a good lead on a the 462, and a 661.

@SG-ig2th

Жыл бұрын

@@alotl1kevegas860 Not sure what your situation is, but unless you’re consistently cutting BIG wood, a 661 is overkill for an average guy imho. 462/461 is much lighter and more practical. But maybe you’re an arborist or timber faller LOL.

Will that bark box blow up my saw or take life off the engine?

Bother , u need to get a.set of the bigger dogs , also help balance it out too. I don't know why stihl put those silly little things on there

I guess you just didn't show turning up your fuel? I thought that was one of the things Gordy was saying you would have to turn up if you added a port to the exhaust. Sounded great though! I could hear the difference in sputter when you rev it up for sure. I was on his site looking at the exhaust port options the other day, but I didn't see the bark box. I need to look and see if they have an option for the 261C on there. I'm wanting to do some upgrades to my Stihl 261C. Mine came with an 18" bar, and I upgraded to the 20" 0.063 gauge with the 3/8" slope. Made a big difference. Thinking about going for the 500i or bigger. I see Gordy running a 36" bar on it, but I didn't see that big of an option on the Official Stihl website. The biggest bar they showed for the 500i was a 25" bar, but seeing Gordy running the 36" bar with a full skip 0.063/3/8" bar and chain, I'm thinking the 500i is a great option for me. Great demo!

@allthingsmotorized1885

Жыл бұрын

stihl say 25 inch because they know that many people wont know what wood they're cutting etc, probably 25 inch max on hardwoods but if you only cut softer woods you could probably go bigger

@comingtofull-ageinchrist6736

Жыл бұрын

@@allthingsmotorized1885 I see Gordy on Westcoast Saw use a 32" and 36" on his 500i Stihl, and I've seen him cutting Redwood trees with his. I haven't ever seen him qualify him using bigger than a 25" on his saw. I don't see them offering a bar and chain bigger than 25 until you start seeing 1,500-2,000 dollar chainsaws, but I see a lot of people using 32 and 36 inch bars on the 500i. I guess it's a warranty thing

@maccaspope2275

Жыл бұрын

@@comingtofull-ageinchrist6736 Most saws specs are pretty conservative when it comes to bar size. And at least where I live most chainsaws come with undersized bars. The 400 is 18" or 20", the 462 is 20" or 22", the 500 is 20"-28", and the 661 only goes up to 30" which I think is the most ridiculous one. So yeah, don't worry about what the site or the shop says, look at what the people actually using the saws are doing.

@alanmeyers3957

Жыл бұрын

I just bought a new 500i with a 32” bar, you have to ask your saw shop, it is an option.

@alanmeyers3957

Жыл бұрын

@@comingtofull-ageinchrist6736 I just bought a 500i with a factory 32” bar with a two year warranty.

I have have a bark box on my ms 460. They are worth the money. They are very load fyi

10:43 is where the opinion on the barkbox is.

Sharpen your damn chain put bar oil in it adjust your chain length

Wow, how informative, I scratched my ass and missed it🤓

@alanmeyers3957

Жыл бұрын

Wow, sorry, to much to drink tonight, it was 12 minutes long?

Awesome video about chainsaws. Are you up for a collaboration to share some tips about chainsaw repair by the way? Maybe we would collaborate?

@HipaParts

Жыл бұрын

I just shot an email to you. We can talk there maybe.

Original muffler is hollow from factory-free flowing perfect!-paint it silver for more power!!!!!!!!!!

Put some Buck'kn muff's on that Saw and make ur neighbors love u...😅

First cut right in the snow. Haha that's how u dull your chainsaw man

I have seen timed cuts with the bark box vs stock. Stock was faster...

@alanmeyers3957

Жыл бұрын

I believe it, this product is cool and it’s loud, which immediately justifies one’s purchase, but add to the power band, it does not.

@timtorkelson7201

6 ай бұрын

Most vids I've seen its faster! Including Dyno Joe's numbers before and after!

Hotrod the f@#%n thing 😊😊😊😅

Cheaper just to take the muffler off-no restrictions--better piss reving!!!!!!!!!!!!

Take it from a 61 year old who has used a saw for ever. USE HEARING PROTECTION! You can't get it back once it's gone.

@alanmeyers3957

Жыл бұрын

I knew a faller that couldn’t hear himself think, literally, all he ever heard was constant ringing, good advice.

@Mr_Clean

9 ай бұрын

Huh?

Why spend the money when you can just drill out the existing exhaust hole and make it bigger with the same results . Free of charge. You don’t need twice the hole diameter just a little bigger.

@RMosher11

Жыл бұрын

Bit more to it than that.

@randysmith8604

Жыл бұрын

@@RMosher11 well my saw runs fantastic doing that. Sure if you make the hole to big it wont run very well. 2 strokes are a simple exhaust. Yes there is more but not much. I have worked on 2 strokes for many years. I do agree with you though.

@alanmeyers3957

Жыл бұрын

@@RMosher11 okay, it has a shroud, anymore than that, no, you can defend it though if it makes you like it👍

Δεν νομίζω ότι αποδίδει καλύτερα απλώς κάνει πιο πολύ φασαρία

Stihl dudes modding and adding weight to their saws, just to catch up to a stock Husqvarna 😮

Why do people always have to gun the engine it sounds dumb

@alanmeyers3957

Жыл бұрын

They ride Harleys, lol!

Eagan straight shot is way better!

One Big problem out west is we are required to run spark arrester screens in any muffler or pipe on any engine.,so any faller out here can’t use them and be legal. Any employer of a faller, trimmer or bucket gets his permit pulled. So we can’t use them unless you put screen between box and exhaust outlet. Has to be seen to verify. Better off to just mod stock muffler. Not much loss

@HowlingHollowOutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Hmm interesting to hear Tom, do you know why that is? If you look at 6:40 on video wcs does have a screen over exhaust outlet on bark box I’m not sure if that’s what you are required

@HowlingHollowOutdoors

Жыл бұрын

*****3:40** in video***

@randykeech3557

Жыл бұрын

Bark box does have a spark arester screen. It can be removed if not needed

@alanmeyers3957

Жыл бұрын

@@HowlingHollowOutdoors why that is? Well the forest service requires it and you could start a fire.

What you doing?Stay away from bark box!Stihl loses hundreds of dollars when you put bark !

@HowlingHollowOutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully I won’t bankrupt them

Should have better editing.

@HowlingHollowOutdoors

Жыл бұрын

I’ll try better next time just for you

@sandspar

Жыл бұрын

@@HowlingHollowOutdoors 🤣

Fart box is trash. Egan straight shot is where it's at.

@HowlingHollowOutdoors

Жыл бұрын

I’ll have to check that out next!

@HowlingHollowOutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Seems to be basically the same design. What do you see differently?

@jeepinass

Жыл бұрын

@Howling Hollow Outdoors well for starters, dyno tests that prove twice the power. Also won't find any pictures of the deflector that's literally just fallen off.

@alanmeyers3957

Жыл бұрын

@@jeepinass 🎉put an expansion chamber on and then you’re doing something, this is just a cool looking noise maker.