It's funny watching this in 2020, when people have in fact denounced Ellen Degeneres. Thankfully we've come a long way in realizing toxic positivity is unhealthy, thank you Barbara for enlightening us. You were the leader in this realization and I'm grateful.

Yes, I think as a matter of fact we DO have an empathy deficit in this culture. I'm so glad that she's also touching on how shitty poverty is and how changing attitudes can not change it. Neither will bootstraps BTW, most people in poverty either work more than full time hours, OR are disabled and for that reason simply aren't able to work. Can't is a word and no matter what the positive pushers think there are real disabilities which aren't bad attitudes.

@MelissaBrownapt215

6 жыл бұрын

PurpleGhost - The cult of positivity should basically prevent death, if you think about it theoretically.

Finally someone real!

Happy people are more productive. Productivity means more profit. That's the real motivation for forcing positivity.

@averayugen1371

2 жыл бұрын

the force counteracts it

@alysa7364

2 жыл бұрын

@@averayugen1371 💯 Agreed. Spiritual bypassing will never produce the desired result.

@steviehammond1964

Жыл бұрын

Not true I have known some really grouchy go get getters and successful

@snoopster000

Жыл бұрын

@@steviehammond1964 Ultimately, its results that matter. The crabby ass employee who regularly outperforms the cheery under achiever will advance while the cheery person wonders why no one 'likes' him/her.

Gotta love someone who is so good at combining moral and intellectual clarity. We miss you, Barbara Ehrenreich.

I haven’t even listened I’m just liking this for the title

Hard to organize for change when everyone's pretending that nothing's wrong.

I used to practice the Science of Mind (Ernest Holmes). The Science of Mind is the core teaching of Centers for Spiritual Living; it is a philosophy that integrates spiritual truths with science and physics. Simply put, the Science of Mind teaches the unity of all life. Intentions and ideas flow through a field of consciousness, which actually affect and create the world around us. Although I did believe and "practice" it wasn't working. The pastor would sometimes accuse the congregation of not practicing hard enough. What is wrong with us? I would leave there feeling something was wrong with me and I wasn't good enough. Good grief.

I love all your books, and thank you so much.

Optimism researcher Martin Seligman, while noticing the important effects of optimistic thinking in avoiding depression, also noted that organizations would fall into delusory, ineffective decision-making without some pessimistic thinkers, and that pessimistic thinkers tended to be more objectively correct in making estimated measurements.

This is brilliant.

Positive thinking is a coping mechanism....and it comes from the fact that people are feeling more and more helpless and powerless in today's world. I wish that ppl instead of being a pessimist or an optimist they were realists.

@Anna133199

3 жыл бұрын

I wish that too. This woman seems to have a pretty realistic outlook on things. I'm gonna have to read her books.

"Delusion is always dangerous."

The fear of death reverts us to the regression of childhood

She points out that positive thinking in itself is a good thing--it's the relentless exploitation of it that is being so destructive.

Watching summer 2024 after spontaneously joining the dots.

I would LOVE to see a debate between Barbara and one of these positive thinking gurus.

The magical thinking of the PMC …

I think she is only scratching the surface of this positive thinking and acting. Because many times, sadly, people are not objective. People will base their hiring decisions on whether you are being positive and cheery and all of that. So although I agree that it is a myth to think that you will get better just by thinking positive, I also think that showing a positive attitude socially can benefit. Although it also looks fake sometimes. So, anyway, it is all a bit weird.

KZread search: Barbara Ehrenreich On Marriage Equality & 2-Party System

The joke about Ellen Degeneres aged like milk 😆 I already watched this video before but I don't care, it's quality content I will watch again ✨

We, The Sheeple embrace Positive Thinking to the greater good of the vested corporate interest !!! (CEO pay has escalated from approx 38 times average employee pay to approx 400 times the average in just over a decade. Keep Smiling ! They're lovin' it !

positivism make you weaker and weaker...

@phekach

9 жыл бұрын

***** For some peaple like me, forced positive thinking actualy creates a bad energy. Positive thinking can work only if I'm quite convinced in my optimism, I have no doubts and therefore don't have to force myself to think positive.

Very important! The relentless promotion of "positive thinking" is used to create denial about reality and enable managerial control--"artificial" as opposed to real optimism (Gramcsi: Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will).

the pink ribbon cancer thing is a scam.

If thinking positive is a fallacy then what the fuck is the placebo effect all about?

@droppenkiken

9 жыл бұрын

But I also think it's worth to keep an open mind. Maybe everything in the universe can't be explained in a materialist fashion? But I also don't discount that there might be a perfectly plausible reason for the placebo effect. In the meantime we know that being happy and having faith in medicine helps us lot. Acupuncture is another great example of alternative medicine that has very positive and profound effect on it's subjects, but yet can't be explained in materialistic terms.

@Theslavedrivers

6 жыл бұрын

To Sebastian Barrymore The placebo effect isn't part of the same doctrine. The 'flip side' of not thinking in the right way, in the ideology that Ehrenreich opposes, is that bad things WILL happen ... Thus a direct link is always (note - always) made between the thought and the outcome. Accordingly, EVERYTHING that then comes your way is in some way attributable to you. If A, then you deserved A. If not A, then you didn't deserve A. I hope you can see that there is a much bigger claim going on here.

I wonder if she did this presentation expecting a positive reaction?

@MelissaBrownapt215

6 жыл бұрын

guy Last - This woman is no stranger to opposition for her writing, even her best-selling work.

The problem dear is hierarchy and who is at the top. Low empathy, high narcissism, high risk tolerance and low response to punishment. They are are unchecked and have been gaming us for it for a while.

posititive thinking can lead to a trap, as negativity gains more further on you, but neither is criticism nor judgementality. negativity attracts negativity.

@MelissaBrownapt215

6 жыл бұрын

BADVIBEZ \m/- Sadly, we conflate unpleasant truth with negativity. So, if we deny that something is wrong, that makes it so, rather than measuring things on merit. Women who pretend their spouses don-t beat them, put on makeup and sunglasses and smile. They lie and sometimes make excuses for their husbands. They focus on his "good" points. Doesn't prevent them for getting more beatings or worse case, being murdered if he snaps on them. Guess they somehow "caused" it, despite hoping for the best, refusing to leave - being eternally optimistic about their marriage.

4:47 men are not given anything maybe except divorce papers once they get prostate cancer.

Also "Life is Good" printed on new PLASTIC WATER BOTTLES which is a major problem for the earth but ironically a vehicle for this cynical false message.... oh the irony!!

@averayugen1371

2 жыл бұрын

The hippie movement invented magical phrases reflective of creative play with words and ideas, ie: No left turn unstoned. Smile, they'll never know what you're up to. This is the first day of the rest of your life. Showing up is 3/4 the effort. Then the corporatocracy coopted everything. But everything lost its meaning.

0:32 That didn't age well.

People ignore this kind of frank analysis at their own peril. I'm glad I'm not the only one coming around to the nonsense of the cult of positive thinking.

My young doctor just moved; he was so excited . I asked did you buy? He said no my wife ; who is also a doctor and I can’t afford to buy with out debt. This kind of knowledge is corrupting all the professions … it is disgusting ….people don’t have time to do the very things that that led them to be caregivers! Same is true with lawyers …

The fact that positive thinking has been mislead by some, the overall message isn’t. Everyone is on a different level. Some people need more of a push than others.

you win your ideas are not optimistic!

The loud soft gave me a stomach ache. Hasn't she ever spoken in public before? I couldn't listen to the whole talk because nobody came by and fixed the microphone.

@seriousoldman8997

25 күн бұрын

A life of gaming on headphones?

Ah, good, a journalist commenting authoritatively on pseudoscience in science. Now if only there wasn't existing scientific research on issues created by an optimism bias... But first things first, that VAST majority of self help books are just predatory grabs for cash. While there are some good ones out there, the last analysis I caught showed the ratio to be about 1 good book to 20 piles of shit. Though I'd recommend turning away from the first entry, here's a link to the APA's site that lists a few good ones: www.apa.org/monitor/jan08/recommended.aspx Great point on the mood bit, since breast cancer wouldn't cause extreme stress. -__- And, yes, the immune system DOES fight cancer cells. Simply, if your body had no way to identify cancer cells and fight them, every time a cell divided improperly, or what have you, and became cancerous, it would develop into a tumor. Every time. Helper T cells and B cells happen to play a large role in sniffing precancerous cells out and killing them when programed apoptosis doesn't activate in the abnormal cell. It's when a cancer cell too closely mimics a normal cell and/or the immune system is suppressed (which is the effect of excessive stress) that the body neglects it. In short, stick to the opinion's section. Here's a great video on the Optimism Bias: Tali Sharot: The optimism bias

@vaska1999

8 жыл бұрын

She has a Ph.D. in hard sciences, actually.

@alistairmackintosh9412

3 жыл бұрын

@@vaska1999 Immunology, to be precise.

Please listen carefully at 31:29-31:32 of this video.

She is incredibly smart. But I don't agree with her entirely. For example, athletes who win are those who have positive thinking. Have you even seen an olympian whining and going into a negative state and win? I doubt that.

@MelissaBrownapt215

6 жыл бұрын

Simopr Dev - Actually, I have won (past exams, lost weight) when I didn't think I would and lost (didnt get a job offer) when I expected to win. On one exam - a civil service gig, I psyched myself into not caring if I passed and scored higher than I had the first time around, going in determined to not make one mistake. I still scored too low, but I left feeling like a winner, but I wasn't, because others scored way higher. Yet, most of them didnt look so positive. I spoke to a few who seemed smarter, but who were very nervous. I'm sure they outscored me.

@Cruelidea69

5 жыл бұрын

Or are they faking it? Umm lol she never said to be a whiner. Just like Jordan Peterson says life is suffering, but pick your cross up and carry it.

Important work, but they'll never hear you.

Positive thinking . . . or this woman (?) I'll go with door number three instead . . .

I have a positive thought: the introduction chick in black lace lingerie on her knees.