My grandfather survived a camp that had been liberated by American troops. He made sure to commit every soldiers name to memory and swore to God that he would name every one of his descendants after the men that saved him. So far 21 names have been used. I’m told there are 14 more. Only when you have a kid are you allowed to see the list to pick a name. Every person that has married into the family has been told the story, and agreed to adhere to his wishes as best as they could. Boys are named directly after the soldier while girls are given a variation (like Luke would be Lucy). My grandfather didn’t live long enough to see any great-grandchildren but I’m certain he’d be pleased to know that we are following his wishes as best as we can.

@jimreilly917

Жыл бұрын

That’s amazing. God bless and may your grandfather memory be cherished forever, along with all who fell as victims of the Nazis….or fighting them.

@ImCorran

Жыл бұрын

Mine survived a work-camp in Poland that got liberated by Canadians in 1944. Spent 4 years there after the germans caught him and his platoon on the Greppenberg in the Dutch province of Limburg, when the Netherlands got invaded. He told life there was pretty brutal, but fortunately for him not nearly as bad as what we see here. He did mention that the military convoy that brought him back to the German-Dutch border also carried survivors of a camp like the one shown here. He and his comrades talked to these survivors and heard stories they wished they had never heard.

@charlesedwards2856

Жыл бұрын

@@ImCorran I hate to tell you this, but the story you were told is incorrect. Am I saying he lied? Absolutely not, but the facts are that British, Canadian, and American troops never got to Poland, and certainly not in 1944. The furthest east any allied troops that weren’t Russians got was Prague in the Czech Republic, in 1945. Perhaps your grandfather misremembered what country the camp he was in was located. That happened a lot. Perhaps he embellished a little because the worst camps…the extermination camps…were all in Poland and extremely Eastern Europe. You can probably look up his story via Yad Vashem or the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum to find out exactly where he was. The Nazis were incredibly good bureaucrats and kept records of so many prisoners, I’d be shocked if you can’t find out.

@ImCorran

Жыл бұрын

@@charlesedwards2856 It's too bad that I can't ask him again because he passed away some time ago. You are right, of course, he must have been mistaken. Maybe the camp had actually been in Germany somewhere? And he got rescued in 1945, instead? I can't even verify whether it was the Canadians that got him out. Maybe if I had some more information on which work-camp he had occupied but he never told us. Maybe there are records of this somewhere, but I wouldn't know where to begin looking. I googled his name and rank at the time he was in service once, but came up blank. Whether he actually met extermination-camp survivors, I don't know. To my knowledge, he never lied to me about anything so it's hard to believe he would make up stuff like this. Maybe he met them under different circumstances and later weaved the story of him meeting them into his story on returning to the Netherlands from imprisonment. Whatever the case, he was my hero. Fighting against the German invasion back then with outdated equipment (the Dutch were infamous for not modernizing their army back then), facing overwhelming odds, must have been the scariest thing ever.

@click8708

Жыл бұрын

Goddamn, that's a fantastic way to honour them.

The moment you said ”thats our language” while crying really got me

@Nemchi90

Жыл бұрын

Yes, indeed. Between 400 000 and 700 000 Serbs were killed in Jasenovac conc. camp in Croatia

@jimreilly917

Жыл бұрын

@@Nemchi90 😞😢

@ciscof4041

Жыл бұрын

What's her language?

@shomilahu

Жыл бұрын

@@ciscof4041 Serbien .

@bigwezz

Жыл бұрын

@@armandassante5928 Jasenovac concentration camp did murder between 70,000 to 100,000 people, though not all were Serbians.

Both Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg kept the actors who are portrayed real heroes from "camp" scene until schedule filming day for actors' real reactions of the "camp". Those "camp" survivors were cancer patients from nearby hospital. Very emotional episode!

@sebastianjoseph2828

Жыл бұрын

Some of the cancer patients took real health risks with their treatment to film, but volunteered because they thought this message was so important. I can't imagine. And a lot of Holocaust victims looked worse than that.

@ericbrett3095

Жыл бұрын

Some of these patients didn't live long enough to see this series released.

@MrTech226

Жыл бұрын

@Eric brett I know, but their families have though....

@iammanofnature235

Жыл бұрын

What is shown in Band of Brothers is a fictional version of the liberation of Kaufering IV.

@michaelkoopman7274

10 ай бұрын

​@@ericbrett3095Unfortunately, these patients are "fat" in comparison with the real victims of these camps. They are also treated very good, or even excellent in comparison with the real victims. The real victims were more dead than alive, for the most part. These poor victims were extremely brutally forced to work to death, with severe punishment and misstreatment.

The toughest episode to watch, but, the most important episode to watch. “If anyone ever tells you the Holocaust didn't happen, or that it wasn't as bad as they say, no, it was worse than they say. What we saw, what these Germans did, it was worse than you can possibly imagine.” - Edward "Babe" Heffron

@Flavius_Belisarius

Жыл бұрын

Also Imperial Japan. In some ways more brutal than the Germans, and I am quarter Japanese.

@kharilane1340

Жыл бұрын

@@Flavius_Belisarius The Japanese were more brutal. The Germans were systematic. Its like the Japanese were sociopaths and the Germans were psychopaths on a national level.

@Flavius_Belisarius

Жыл бұрын

@@kharilane1340 I could see that.

@NguyenMinh-vs1vm

Жыл бұрын

@@Flavius_Belisarius just came from an argument against a war crime denier. He denied both the Holocaust, and Japanese war crimes. Christ, I cannot get it through that thick skull of his.

@Flavius_Belisarius

Жыл бұрын

@Nguyễn Minh It is annoying, but thankfully those deniers are a tiny minority.

Nixon's absolute rage through this episode was an amazing performance.

@Senaleb

Жыл бұрын

IT'S MY DOG!

@dragon_turtle

Жыл бұрын

Ron Livingston always somehow manages to make me laugh even in literally his lowest point of the series. And then when he sees the camp, it's almost like he's reminded of the episode's namesake "Why We Fight" Nix and Winters are my favorites btw.

@iammanofnature235

Жыл бұрын

It's fictional.

@tomfuelery2905

Жыл бұрын

@iammanofnature235 Watch episode 11. This show was based on the stories of the actual soldiers of Easy Company.

@keithm1493

Жыл бұрын

@@iammanofnature235 What aspects were fictional??

I'm in my 70s. I majored in history in college. I have watched BoB dozens of times including reactors, like you. I literally cry every time I see Episode 9 again. Your tears are something to be proud of. They mean you are empathetic human beings. Bless you for your reactions.

@iammanofnature235

Жыл бұрын

_I literally cry every time I see Episode 9 again._ Why would you cry? It's fictional. Easy Company did not liberate Kaufering IV.

@stevejette2329

11 ай бұрын

East - Yes. Indeed. And they also display their ... "protected?" lives ... "Imagine quitting college to go to war ??" Well,... ya. 1968

@ArgentLeftovers

11 ай бұрын

​@@iammanofnature235because Easy may not have experience it...but soldiers did. While fitting it into this specific framing is fictional, it makes you understand what was REAL for so many people. To not get that means you either are a denier or just have zero social skills or empathy.

@iammanofnature235

11 ай бұрын

@@ArgentLeftovers _because Easy may not have experience it...but soldiers did._ *I never said anything about other soldiers, this is what is known as a red herring. And of course, I specifically name the camp. And Easy Company did not liberate the camp in question. Kaufering IV was actually liberated by the 12th Armored Division on April 27, 1945, with some units of the 101st arriving on April 28 and Easy Company arriving on April 29. And there were only about 7 prisoners found alive along with about 500 bodies. Those are the facts, and they can be confirmed by doing a less than 10 minutes of research.* _While fitting it into this specific framing is fictional, it makes you understand what was REAL for so many people._ *Unfortunately, there are a lot of people who actually believe what they see in Band of Brothers is accurate. There are even some for whom it has become akin to a religion. And I should point out that there are numerous other embellishments, omissions, fictional elements, and factual errors in Band of Brothers.* _To not get that means you either are a denier or just have zero social skills or empathy._ *And you are likely an ignorant delusional fanboy or girl. Have a wonderful day.*

@pavlovshouse77

10 ай бұрын

@@iammanofnature235 “zero social skills” irony is not your friend here.

Your tears are diamonds. I am 68 I was a (British) soldier during the Cold War and I have seen the original footage of Dachau many times. I have been there once. I watched this with you and still am crying. I cannot stop it when I see these camp scenes. If you cannot cry at scenes like that, I question your humanity. Eisenhower saw that camp and said film it, photograph it, cover everything, because years from now some bastard will stand up and say this didn't happen. My dad was a British medical Officer and was called to another camp in the north called Bergen-Belsen. He could not speak of it without choking and tearing up - no I am not Jewish, just human

@johnski4709

9 ай бұрын

And today Hillary Clinton said in an interview that they needed to send anyone who supports Trump to a "re-education camp".

@joefriedman9843

8 ай бұрын

Beautiful comment. I applaud you.

@american_cosmic

5 ай бұрын

@@johnski4709 Lol please... Trump has said way worse than that.

@johnski4709

5 ай бұрын

provide examples @@american_cosmic

@american_cosmic

5 ай бұрын

@@johnski4709 Just google it, you'll find plenty.

This episode never fails to make me cry.

@mehmetersan5679

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/lnlom9yElpvWqtY.html SS MARCH HİTLERJUGEND

@chrisd7047

Жыл бұрын

It's a good sign that your soul is still intact.

@kdizzle901

Жыл бұрын

If you don’t cry you have no empathy

@KaoretheHalfDemon

Жыл бұрын

I start to cry… and then the sorrow is drowned in anger. Makes me want to punch something.

@PlasmaCoolantLeak

Жыл бұрын

You and me both, brother.

My Uncle Bill was 82nd Airborne. He parachuted into Normandy and lived to fight in the Battle of the Bulge, which he also managed to survive. He also liberated some camps. These men were brave beyond measure and helped save the world from utter darkness. Please also remember Sgt. Clarence William "Bill" Robinson. He endured all the same things these men of the 101st endured and survived.

@iammanofnature235

Жыл бұрын

_He endured all the same things these men of the 101st endured and survived._ Not everything shown in Band of Brothers is historically accurate...for example: the camp liberation scenes are completely fictitious and Easy Company did not capture Berchtesgaden nor were they were not the first to reach the Eagle's Nest.

@vampiro4236

8 ай бұрын

​@@iammanofnature235 It was the 12th Armored and another 101st Airborne unit that actually liberated the Landsberg-Kaufering camp but Easy Company was at the camp as well as the rest of the Kaufering complex (which itself was massive considering it was one of 11 subcamps of Dachau.) Donald Malarkey, Carwood Lipton and Dick Winters spoke about it, so them being there was at least accurate.

@rogermcbride1284

5 ай бұрын

My father Porter Lee McBride , Texas was 82Airborne and he too was at Normandy and the Battle of the bulge. he came home after being wounded in the Bulge. Shrapnel and 2 bullet wounds. He suffered from nightmares as he got older saying we were under attack. He never would explain and we didn't ask. Father in law Billy Charles Painter also from Texas,was 101st. When they met they saluted each other and hugged and sat down and talked for a long time. They knew each others pain. I'm grateful to have had both of them in my life.

@DarkJediPrincess

5 ай бұрын

My maternal grandfather, Private Robert Glenwood Phillips, was one of your uncle’s comrades in the 82nd. Grandpa Phillips was a paratrooper and a radio operator. He fought on D-Day and in the Battle of the Bulge, where he was wounded in action.

@veramae4098

2 ай бұрын

My Uncle Bill Lorenz was in the Army. 2nd Lt. Killed 22 days before German army surrendered, by machine gun fire from a church. Please say his name aloud.

No one really is ready to this episode for the first time. Everyone who has watched Band of Brothers knows this episode breaks people. Years after initially watching this episode, it still hit hard for me. The people who played as the Concentration Camp prisoners were cancer patients. They volunteered to play their roles. As many people have said throughout this reaction series… Band of Brothers is just not a TV show but are lessons that later generations need to know. I understand Band of Brothers is such a hard series to get thru. I really hope you give The Pacific tv series a chance. It is really worth watching how the Pacific War was.

@MoMoMyPup10

Жыл бұрын

C'mon man, you like torturing people too? Give the girls a break please.

@TheBongReyes

Жыл бұрын

@@MoMoMyPup10 It’s up to them to try reacting to The Pacific. It is worth watching but no pressure in reacting to it. I, truly, believe shows like Band of Brothers and the Pacific. Movies like Saving Private Ryan and All Quiet on the Western Front are worth watching. Gives the smallest glimpses of war and, if done right, provides lessons why war is hell. Most of us will never actually be in the hellfires of war. I have been part of one and wouldn’t wish to be part of it.

@ErdTirdMans

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'm'a vote no on The Pacific. It's a brutal program that I think is truly important for people to watch. However, if these girls are having as much trouble as they say they're having with BoB, The Pacific is not for them. Not yet at least. They're not American or Japanese, so it's not as crucial for them either

@steverusk4514

Жыл бұрын

@@MoMoMyPup10 Why weren't our Vietnam War veterans given a break? When we came into airports and cities young women would call us baby killers and then spit on us or slap our faces. And we just had to stand there and take it!! If we wanted to ask a girl on a date or for a dance we would be asked by them if we were veterans and then we would be laughed at or swore at as they walked away with their friends! (This was at the beginning of the Peace Protests and the Women's Movement.) So no I won't give them a break! But like every chump veteran I will give them my respect and love as a fellow American and forgive them if they will forgive us for what we had to do to protect them and their future.

@markomihajlovic7091

Жыл бұрын

Ah the "I suffered so you don't stuffer but if you refuse to suffer I will get angry because who are you not to suffer". Very noble of you, thank you for your service and agent orange.

27:02 - The "yeah he should've....but he didn't" line delivered by Nixon at the end of the episode is still to this day one of the most sublime lines/quotes I've ever heard, particularly his delivery and the context of the situation.

This is why this show was made. Far too many people don't believe, or cant understand, just how evil some men can be. The reactions you both showed on your faces, are genuine and heartbreaking. I am so grateful this series was made before the last of "The Greatest Generation" had passed away. We need to remember how these wars start. How many lives are lost. Both military and civilian. Many who served never spoke of their actions. My grandfather was one of them. I never heard him speak of what he went through. So much of history stands to be lost. I am glad we are able to see what really happened

@iammanofnature235

Жыл бұрын

The problem is that the liberation scenes shown in Band of Brothers are completely fictitious. Easy Company actually arrived the day after Kaufering IV (Hurlach) had been liberated by the 12th Armored Division on April 27, 1945. And there only few prisoners found alive (about 7; those who had been able to hide) and about 500 bodies. From the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum: _As US armed forces approached the Kaufering complex in late April 1945, the SS began evacuating the camps, sending the prisoners on death marches in the direction of Dachau. Those inmates who could not keep up were often shot or beaten to death by the guards. At Kaufering IV, the SS set fire to the barracks killing hundreds of prisoners who were too ill or weak to move._ _When the 12th Armored Division and 101st Airborne Division arrived at Kaufering IV on April 27 and 28, respectively, the soldiers discovered some 500 dead inmates. In the days that followed, the US Army units ordered the local townspeople to bury the dead._

@mistertwister2000

5 ай бұрын

@@iammanofnature235Yes, we know it’s fictitious. But the impact and the lesson remain, this is an instance where bending the details of history to illustrate the larger point is acceptable. It didn’t stop being heartbreaking and horrifying just because they simplified the story to keep focus on Easy Company, and while accuracy is important at the end of the day I’d rather it be digestible enough that more people will watch and learn rather than be so stringent to detail that it loses the larger audience. Spamming all these comments with “uM aCtUaLlY iT wAsN’t EaSy CoMpAnY” is neither helpful nor important in this instance, if the only takeaway you have from this episode is “hey they made up this scene to be emotional” then you’re focusing on the wrong thing.

There are TWO left. "Points" is the last in the series. "We Stand Alone Together," is a follow up with extended interviews with the actual veterans.

@luketimewalker

Жыл бұрын

You're right! And also, Ron "Lewis Nixon" Livingston's documentary during their boot camp! kzread.info/dash/bejne/fKllk8l8mda1fJc.html

@crazypriest4274

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for pointing this out. It makes me sad how many reactors don't watch "We Stand Alone Together" after finishing BoB

Thank you for watching these. And just so you know you have plenty of viewers crying right along with you, I've watched this many many times, and I am never not moved to tears. And yes especially as time goes by, it's important for people to see that these things happen. And to thank how it actually managed to happen.

The struggle you two feel watching this will make a peaceful existence feel all the sweeter.

@luketimewalker

Жыл бұрын

Powerful statement

@doraramos2930

2 ай бұрын

Thanks

I'd seen the episode already a couple of weeks prior, but when the company pulled into the camp my heart started racing and I got chills as though I were watching it all over again. When you said "it's our language" I had to pause the reaction for a while to gather myself. Same for during your review when you told us of your proximity to one of the camps, and how you don't know anyone who's jewish in your country. A very close friend of mine is jewish and of polish descent, her great-grandparents were extremely lucky to have been able to flee in time. I've been to the Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe in Berlin, and I've watched a considerable amount of documentaries and have read a lot in relation to the holocaust, and the horror of it only ever gets worse. The word 'horror' doesn't begin to describe it, trying to use words to describe the holocaust feels like an insult in and of itself. I agree with the sentiment that this absolutely needs to be seen by everyone, especially when holocaust denial and general antisemitism is as rampant as ever 80 years later. There's a certain amount of comfort we shouldn't be allowed to have. Ignorance toward the Shoah is one such comfort.

@derekharrison1582

Жыл бұрын

Hi there Tea Drinker.I saw this series when it first came out in 2001 and its still powerful stuff today in 2023,especially this episode.I’ve visited the Holocaust museum in Laxton, near Newark,Nottinghamshire,and the horror of the holocaust is there to see.Its a fascinating place to visit.Unfortunatly poisonous right wing politics seems to be on the rise everywhere, including Eastern Europe, countries that were invaded by the Nazis, like Poland, like Russia that lost millions during the war,and have their own Neo Nazis.Some of the stuff I’ve seen on line is truly sickening and hard to believe.It’s as though history, RECENT HISTORY like this, has taught some people absolutely nothing.It’s like the poison that is spouted by Conservative politicians like Suella Braverman... a British Asian woman, who’s folks were immigrants to this country, but comes out with shocking comments saying she dreams of sending illegals to Rwanda, calling them INVADERS, and failing to apologise to a concentration camp victim, who had been incarcerated in a camp as child, when that victim had asked Braverman to apologise for her use of the word INVADERS, a word the Nazis had used about the Jews in Europe.Labour were rightly hammered under Corbyn, for anti semitism in the party,but how dare the Tories act like they’re innocent when Braverman can come out with shocking comments like INVADERS and refuse to apologise to a concentration camp victim.The war in the Ukraine has taken the heat off the hatred that is spreading, but it’s still very much there.This episode of BAND OF BROTHERS, ‘WHY WE FIGHT’, should be shown to students in all schools, especially in history lessons.Mans inhumanity to man.The Shoah,the transatlantic Slave trade, World wars One and Two,the destruction of the Inca and Aztec empires and other terrible acts right through human history.Sadly I fear we just keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again.😪

@gaffgarion7049

Жыл бұрын

Why is antisemitism rampant 80 years later?

@iammanofnature235

Жыл бұрын

_but when the company pulled into the camp my heart started racing and I got chills as though I were watching it all over again._ The camp liberation scenes were written specifically to produce an emotional response, but they are completely fictitious. Easy Company actually arrived the day after Kaufering IV (Hurlach) had been found and liberated by the 12th Armored Division on April 27, 1945. And there were only a handful of prisoners found alive, along with about 500 bodies.

@Maggot-ml3vz

8 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@iammanofnature235all your responses to these videos is the full on “well ackchyully” meme. As someone who knows about the inaccuracy of the series, it’s still a great series to show what the people in WW2 went through to liberate Europe from the Nazis (all though the Soviets did the brunt of the work). The camp scene is powerful to again, show a taste of what the soldiers who liberated the camps all throughout Europe saw and showed the some of the emotions they went through and more importantly the victims being so happy beyond words to be liberated from the Nazis. I think 99% of people know Hollywood is going to take liberties with shows and movies based on true events. Happens all the time. Regardless of the inaccuracies, this series is still fantastic and it shows what it was like on the Western front.

It is hard to imagine a more intense single episode of television.

@commonstragedy

Жыл бұрын

This is going to sound weird to anybody who hasn't seen it, but there's an episode dealing with death in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, "The Body," that's as intense, albeit in a different way, dealing with a very personal death (vs. the mass, evil killing of this episode).

@iammanofnature235

Жыл бұрын

It was written for dramatic effect, but it is a fictional version of the liberation of Kaufering IV.

Of all the amazing details of the camp discovery scene, the one that always catches my attention is how Nixon and Winters both remove their helmets so as to seem slightly less threatening. It's such a small detail, but it says a lot about who they are, that when confronted with such horror, their first instinct is the consideration for others.

@iammanofnature235

Жыл бұрын

_Of all the amazing details of the camp discovery scene_ The camp shown in Band of Brothers is Kaufering IV (Hurlach) which was actually found and liberated by the 12th Armored Division on April 27, 1945, with Easy Company actually arriving on April 28. What is shown in Band of Brothers is completely fictitious.

@StinkyBuster

Жыл бұрын

​@@iammanofnature235the detail of who the Americans precisely were is the ONLY inaccuracy.

@iammanofnature235

Жыл бұрын

@@StinkyBuster _the detail of who the Americans precisely were is the ONLY inaccuracy._ The camp liberation and associated scenes are fictional. Kaufering IV had been evacuated prior to the liberation of the camp. When the 12th Armored Division liberated the camp only about 7 prisoners were found alive (those who had hidden), along with about 500 bodies. The large number of prisoners shown in Band of Brothers is fictional. From the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum: _As US armed forces approached the Kaufering complex in late April 1945, the SS began evacuating the camps, sending the prisoners on death marches in the direction of Dachau. Those inmates who could not keep up were often shot or beaten to death by the guards. At Kaufering IV, the SS set fire to the barracks killing hundreds of prisoners who were too ill or weak to move._ _When the 12th Armored Division and 101st Airborne Division arrived at Kaufering IV on April 27 and 28, respectively, the soldiers discovered some 500 dead inmates. In the days that followed, the US Army units ordered the local townspeople to bury the dead._

@marinesinspace6253

9 ай бұрын

@@iammanofnature235 Major Dick Winters' memoirs, Beyond Band of Brothers addresses Easy Company's discovery of Landsberg concentration camp, p. 214: By now the men and I were seasoned combat veterans, but the sights we witnessed when we arrived at the camp defied description. The horror of what we observed remains with each paratrooper to this day. You could not explain it; you could not describe it; and you could not exaggerate it. It did not take long to realize that the Nazis were intent on eliminating all the Jews, gypsies, and anyone who disagreed with Hitler's regime. The memory of starved, dazed men who dropped their eyes and heads when we looked at them through the chain-link fence, in the same manner that a beaten, mistreated dog would cringe, left a mark on all of us forever. Nor could you underestimate the barbarity of the Nazi regime, even during the latter stages of the war. I'll take his word over yours.

@WolfLove89

7 ай бұрын

​@@iammanofnature235so then fuck the atrocities? Just because it wasn't Easy company that first found it? They're showing the atrocities of the war. No matter who found it, it was an atrocity. They're showing what ww2 was like and how the soldiers that actually found it would have reacted.

The second half of this episode is what gets remembered, but the first half of this episode is honestly a brilliant way to set it up. Everyone is getting fed up with the war, wondering what its even for at this point, wondering what good came of their friends getting killed and maimed. The second half of the episode answers the question, shows "Why We Fight".

This is the hardest episode guys, so you’ve made it through the toughest part! Really appreciate you guys going on this journey.

Lola, you keep saying you don't know what to say, but you spoke to it PHENOMALLY. And you proved yourself wrong - you did make it through! Listen to your own words - it's incredibly important to learn things that make us uncomfortable at times, just as you sometimes have to take bitter medicine to fight off sickness. I hope at the end of the day you can say it was worth the discomfort for what you've gained from it!

@joefriedman9843

Жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more. She spoke wonderfully about the topic in all honesty.

So, my friends grandfather was an Italian paratrooper in world war 2. He was captured alongside both German and other Italian troops. When they found the camps, they questioned him and he had no idea. None of the Italians did. The Germans said they didn’t. Every single Italian soldier knew that the Germans were lying. They told the Americans, too.

Your reactions were exactly what I expected. It's been a pleasure watching this series with you. This episode should be shown to older school children to show them what possible horrors there are in the world. Something like this should NEVER be allowed to happen again. Thank you for sharing your viewing and thoughts.

@iammanofnature235

Жыл бұрын

_This episode should be shown to older school children to show them what possible horrors there are in the world_ Not a good idea. The liberations scenes are completely fictitious.

My Grandfather fought in WW11 in Europe and he did not talk much about it, I took him to an army reunion in 2001, I met some of his army buddies that is when my grandpa's friends talked about what they saw in the camps, I was shocked because I had no idea that he saw that horror, On the way home he talked a little bit about what he saw, he never talked about it again he died in 2002, RIP.

I don't know what to say girls, I've always loved your reactions, from Attack on Titans, through Vikings and Fullmetal, but watching Band of Brother and especially this episode is something very strange, in the sense that it's brutally strong but at the same time necessary to never forget what happened, I say it as a History teacher that I am, and in my classes with my students I always try to use this chapter of the series to reflect the theme of war and its consequences… It broke my heart to hear Lola say "that's our language", it is known that Serbia was one of the critical points in this horrible event, but listening to Lola with her broken voice about her language just broke me... You are Very brave to see this episode and the analysis, I expected nothing less. You are so great girls. Hugs and cordial greetings from Chile.

One of the things I love about how this episode was made was the deliberate use of 360º shots in the camp. You may not be noticing them as they happen because you're very focused on "what" is happening, but subconsciously it's convincing you that this is not a set - this is a real place that we're inside.

Tough episode but a very necessary one

Many if the actors who played the people in the camp were cancer patients. The producers went to a cancer ward at a hospital, explained what they were doing, and most of the patients volunteered to be part of the show, because it was such an important story. The actors who played the soldiers didn’t get to see the camp before shooting, it was kept a surprise to them. So when you see the soldier’s reaction to seeing the camp and the victims, that’s their genuine reaction to seeing the camp for the first time. Don’t worry, the next episode isn’t as sad, and has the happiest of endings. You’ll still cry, but happy tears.

@iammanofnature235

Жыл бұрын

_because it was such an important story._ The liberation scenes are completely fictitious and were written to produce an emotional response. In reality, Easy Company arrived the day after the Kaufering IV had been liberated by the 12th Armored Division on April 27, 1945.

@MrSheckstr

11 ай бұрын

@@iammanofnature235 when you are filming a war movie or series you are faced with a choice between two options…. Cast hundreds if not thousands of main actors …. With whole groups only being on the screen for a few minute such that you dont really get to know most of them beyond being a dirty face in a torn uniform and dented helmet, OR taking a smaller cast , and have them tell the stories of more than one individual, more than one group. ….. Long before band of brothers came out that is how i explain the TV show MASH both in the length of time it was on the air (compared to the relatively short Korean Conflict) and the absurdly small MASH unit, with only four doctors in the entire company

@iammanofnature235

11 ай бұрын

@@MrSheckstr Why would they have to cast hundreds or thousands of main actors...you're reasoning doesn't make any sense. They needlessly brought in people to play emaciated prisoners (in actuality only about 7 prisoners were found alive) and there are many extras in other scenes. Some more examples: 1) Easy Company did not liberate Berchtesgaden nor were they the first to reach the Eagle's Nest as shown in episode 10. The 7th Infantry Regiment of the 3rd Infantry Division is credited with the liberation of Berchtesgaden on May 4, 1945, and members of the French 2nd Armored Division are credited with being the first to reach the Eagle's Nest in the early morning of May 5. Easy Company arrived a few hours later. 2) Also, in episode 10 members of Easy Company did not kill an unnamed commandant of an unnamed concentration camp. This is based on the shooting of Franz Ziereis who had been commandant of Mauthausen. He had tried to hide out at his mountain hunting cabin but was spotted and reported. On May 23, 1945, U.S. Army soldiers attempted to arrest him, and he was shot three times trying to escape. He died the next day in a U.S. Army hospital. No members of Easy Company were involved.

Knowing this was coming for you two, those of us who’ve seen it already knew this was gonna be tough for you. It’s crazy hard to watch liebgott tell them they have to go back in the camp.

@strwbrypop

Жыл бұрын

But, the young man's reaction, after delivering his commander's message, told a lot about the depth of the character. He did his duty, but he was crushed.

I've always loved Webster, but this episode always showed me why.

@FacloFormerFavorite

Жыл бұрын

Was it he who said it’s funny ever since then entered Germany they never saw one nazi? Might be the next episode .

@maxydey42

Жыл бұрын

@@FacloFormerFavorite he said it in the beginning of this one

@mehmetersan5679

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/lnlom9yElpvWqtY.html WAFFEN SS

@stever3145

Жыл бұрын

@@FacloFormerFavorite That's weird because in the Crossroads episode where he said they got me there were SS Officers there and they were all Nazis. What were the three divisions of the SS? The Waffen-SS was made up of three subgroups: the Leibstandarte, Hitler's personal bodyguard; the Totenkopfverbände (Death's-Head Battalions), which administered the concentration camps and a vast empire of slave labour drawn from the Jews and the populations of the occupied territories; and the Verfügungstruppen

@aussiejed1

Жыл бұрын

@@FacloFormerFavorite Perconte says it, when they are getting themselves billets by forcing Germans out of their homes.

I really don't know what to say either...you two ladies have been so invested in this series. I'll go as far as to say more so than any other YT "reactors". You connected with the veterans, the men portrayed... enough to feel for them. You wore your hearts on your sleeves & I commend you for that. It's not easy being vulnerable. Your commentary is among the best out there. By taking this seriously, you validate the service of those men. As a veteran myself, I thank you. This episode is gut-wrenching to say the least & when you recognized what the patrol found i saw it on your face. You both have beautiful, caring & compassionate hearts...God bless you. Thank you for this & look forward to episode 10

@rayharley597

Жыл бұрын

If you haven't I hope you will watch The Perfect Mix and their reactions, the woman is Jewish and watching their reaction to this episode was very hard. The moment that always hits me is the salute that Perconte and the Great War veteran share. Since my brother-in-law passed I have gone to every Remembrance service here; her was a mechanic with the Army and my older sister a Nurse with the RAF, and they met when both were serving in Singapore. I always seem to manage to find a way of pissing him off, partly because I was never his idea of what a man should be, but he was a good man who raised some great kids and I miss him very much. It also seems more important somehow since I hope I would have had the courage to be a conscienctious objector during the Great War. Thank you, kerk hiraeth

I changed my mind. Please, watch Pacific too. I know it's hard to watch, but many of your fans going to watch that because of you. More people watch Band of Brothers and Pacific-fewer people will want war. It's not just about you anymore, it's about humanity well-being.

@nikolaypetrov9789

Жыл бұрын

By the way, I am from Russia and basically feel like germans on ww2 who didn't support nazi, but not doing anything to stop them. For people who don't know much about Russia - I can't just leave this rotten country. Most citizens very poor, to the point that average salary is much lower than a ticket out of Russia. One my friend has been pro war at the beginning of this and even was thinking about joining army to "protect our country". I wasn't able to change his mind by just words, so i somehow managed to force him to watch this 2 tv series. He didn't completely change his mind, but at least he doesn't want to go to war anymore. So I am hoping that people going to watch this series with you and at least some of them will better know about horrors of war.

@luketimewalker

Жыл бұрын

​@@nikolaypetrov9789 for what it's worth you are a FANTASTIC HUMAN BEING. I am genuinely so sorry for you. I have watched hours of interviews of the heroic youtube channel 1420. And also some of Vasya in the Hay, helping out famished babushkas in rural areas. Shit, Russia is bigger than China AND India and the EU combined, there is an INFINITY OF LAND that begs to be developed in the east, but no, Putin had to covet that bit in the West instead of developing his own abandoned lands. Russian culture has so much more to offer to the world than "servile scum" as Webster says, whose mind goes blank whenever it has to think in ways that might challenge what the goverment says and go full "neutral" mode. Exactly what Orwell described with 1984's Thoughtcrime: "Crimestop means the faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are inimical to Ingsoc, and of being bored or repelled by any train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction. Crimestop, in short, means protective stupidity." Brave Nikolay, take pride in your fortitude and clarity. You are the kind of Russian the future needs. I want to add that, in my heart of hearts, the greatest hero on this planet was a Russian. Vassili Arkhipov. He who saved the world from nuclear apocalypse, on October 27 1962. Stay strong my friend.

@traiascacodreanu4553

Жыл бұрын

Humanity will always want war.

Band of Brothers is one of the greatest pieces of film/tv ever created.

I am German and 61 years old. I can only say that many people think there were only 10 or 100 or 1000 perpetrators but that is not true. There were several thousands who killed people in the concentration camps, there were quite a few who went to war with enthusiasm at first. There were thousands and thousands who appropriated the property of Jewish people and knew these people would never come back. There were thousands who lived near concentration camps and smelled the crematoria. This smell is so "special" that you have to know that something "extraordinary" is happening there. The ovens ran almost 24 hours a day. Where are the people who arrived by endless train transports? It was impossible for them all to live "normally" there. There just wasn't enough space. But where were all the people then? Anyone who could add 1+1 knew, that the smell had to be related to people disappearing. I've been to Israel several times and talked extensively with Jewish people and the only answer to the question "why didn't anyone notice that" was that nobody wanted to know and/or that they simply didn't care. This has turned out to be a particularly German idiosyncrasy, this "I don't know anything, I don't want to know anything and it's not my fault". I'm not at fault is the most important thing. Only the others are to blame, but not me. I am against the death penalty but if I had been an Allied soldier who was present at the liberation of a concentration camp, I would have participated in the killing of SS guards. The whole thing is revenge but I would have been fine with it. Pay attention to what is happening in your lands and where the followers of these beasts raise their heads. There are monsters like that in other countries too anti-Semitism is everywhere. The wickedness and stupidity of people is not dying out.

My father was with the Fourth Armored Division, which had come to the relief of the 101st at Bastogne, a few months earlier. They were actually the first division to find a camp (Ohrdruf). Eisenhower, Patton, and Bradley came to see it, and an enraged Eisenhower ordered the resident of the town to be marched through the camp. The mayor and his wife went home and killed themselves. Toward the end of his life, I got up the nerve to ask him about Ohrdruf. He went ashen and his eyes took on a "thousand yard stare." I could see him seeing it. He struggled to find words and finally said, "The smell was beyond belief." He still had pictures of it. I noted that the people there (like the Germans in the town near this camp) claimed they knew nothing about it. He shook his head and said the stench of death carried for miles. There was no way they could not know. He had heard the cretins and bigots who denied the Holocaust. And he would ask me, as he faced the end of his own life, "You have those pictures don't you? You have those pictures?" He was a witness, a liberator and a man whose own soul was scarred by the horror he found.

I’ve seen Band of Brothers 3 times, and this episode never gets easier. Part of what gets me is the look on Joe Liebgott’s face when they tell him they’re Jewish, because Joe was also Jewish. It’s beyond belief what these men experienced while fighting this war. No wonder most of them didn’t talk about it when they got home. They just wanted to get a job, get married, and start their lives. There are only 119,000 WWII veterans left and soon they’ll be gone. We will never see their kind again. Those ordinary guys - those heroes of WWII.

The intro and outro where the German musicians were playing Beethoven rather than Mozart was symbolic; most people tend to forget that Hitler was Austrian, not German. With him dead, Germany was on its way back to being under the control of Germans rather than a mad Austrian. The closing of the violin case is also symbolic of the closing of a coffin; dedicated to the millions killed in the concentration camps. The 300,000 Germans you see marching was known as the Ruhr pocket; basically boys and old men who were forced into defending Germany. Originally the Allies were going to bomb major cities like Hamburg. German resistance won the fight against the SS and radioed the Ruhr to surrender, which convinced the Allies to call off the bombing raid. After the Ruhr fell, that was when Hitler realized he had lost the war and shot himself. In the scene where the French soldiers shot the three Germans, that was technically a violation of the Geneva Convention; no harm is supposed to fall on soldiers who had surrendered. When Germans lost a battle against American or British forces, they happily surrendered because they could expect humane treatment; against Russian and French forces, they chose suicide because they knew they could expect no mercy. The camp the 101st Airborne found was Kaufering IV; a subcamp to Dachau. Originally when troops were preparing to take Dachau, they thought it was a chemical plant because the stench was so bad. Whether German citizens knew or not about the camps, truth be told, it's really hard to say. When brownshirt activists smashed and ruined the stores of Jews and non-party citizens during Kristallnacht, this actually generated sympathy for Jews in the public, which infuriated Hitler because it showed he didn't have the public support he thought he had. So propaganda had Jews moved out of the cities into ghettos; telling the public they were being moved for their own safety and to aid in the war effort. Once the camps were built, they moved the Jews there. Out of sight, out of mind. And if you're living under a dictatorship, asking questions, not pledging support, stuff like that easily got you killed. People either supported Hitler's fantasies, or they kept their heads down and mouths shut out of fear. That's not to say there weren't plenty of Germans who didn't fight back; Col. Stauffenberg and officers in the Wehrmacht tried to assassinate Hitler, shut down the camps and make peace with the Allies. Others like Oskar Schinder, Josef Gangl, etc, rescued Jews and POWs from certain death.

My father grew up in Zagreb. His family was Jewish, and many, including my father, fled Croatia (then Yugoslavia) as Jews were being rounded up. Several members of his family who did not leave Croatia were captured and sent to the Jasenovac Concentration Camp, located between Zagreb and Slavonski Brod, and they were murdered there. I had a chance to visit Croatia a few years ago, and went to the Jasenovac Memorial. Standing in that place and seeing my relatives' names engraved in the memorial museum made it very, very real for me. Like you, watching this episode is difficult - but necessary. Thank you for sharing your reaction, and your genuine emotions.

My great grandfather was at a camp, though my family is not jewish, he was a freedomfighter here in Denmark. He survived, but the experience marked him

The scene where the prisoner saluted broke me

@jimreilly917

Жыл бұрын

The one that cracked me hard was when the one prisoner came up to the GI, hugged him and couldn’t stop kissing him and crying. Liberated!😢

@Fitzwalrus06

9 ай бұрын

​@@jimreilly917Yes the salute and the kissing inmate are heartbreaking. I've lost track of how many times I've watched this episode, and those two scenes always get me. Every. Single. Time.😢

@jimreilly917

9 ай бұрын

And never again…is happening again. Now. As of October 7.

The finale like the other episodes, is done with realism, sensitivity, empathy and class...😌

Thank you for watching this episode and for posting this video showing your empathy. It is appreciated. Beautifully crafted episode, my favorite of all the episodes. The script, the camera work, the acting, the music, all a class act. Decades later Waters said in an interview that looking back on his long life, seeing that camp made him the angriest he'd ever been in his life. My husband's Uncle Jack was one of the soldiers who liberated Dachau, another camp. He was a country boy; until he went into the Army he'd never been much off the farm in his whole life. Decades later when Uncle Jack was dying of cancer, he told my husband that though he'd never spoken of it, what he'd seen in that camp had haunted him his whole life. Uncle Jack spoke with my husband shortly before he died about the afterlife and said that if he was going to hell after he died, he surely knew what to expect going in - for he'd seen in April 1945 what hell on earth looked like. RIP Uncle Jack, sleep well ❤️

@iammanofnature235

11 ай бұрын

_seeing that camp made him the angriest he'd ever been in his life._ In actuality, Easy Company arrived at Kaufering IV two days after it had been liberated by the 12th Armored Division. For dramatic purposes, Easy Company is shown liberating the camp.

when the man spoke carrying his dead loved one,he was speaking serbo-croation it was a similar dialect to the language used while Yugoslavia was whole for those wondering

Oh ladies, when you said that's our language, it broke my heart. I just wanted to hug you. The Band of Brothers is a master class of that era, in my opinion. Thank you for watching this. Bless you ladies and take care. 🙏

My Grandfather raided a half dozen of the Camps. He was on point element for Patton. They had to separate the Prisoners from the Food Stores, with Bayonets. He was very tortured over all of it. I saw the Box he had, with hundreds if not thousands of pictures he took, after the Raids. God rest his Soul.

Young ladies, you are wise beyond your years. I served as a US Navy Hospital Corpsman. My job was to care for sick & injured. My first duty station, I cared for a patient, a retired US Navy Captain. He was dying from cancer. Because of his disease, he lost the ability to speak. This resulted in him being very depressed and angry. One day I laid into him because he got mad I called him Sir. Military protocol required it, the way I was raised demanded I called him Sir. I pointed at the serial number burned into his arm by those F'N PIGS and said that "tattoo" meant no one called him anything but Sir. Both he and his wife bore those. One survived Treblinka the other Auschwitz. After the war they came to the US and to served in the Navy more than 40 years. As for the show you are correct there is one episode left but I highly recommend the documentary "We stand alone, Together " the clips of the real soldiers was edited into an excellent documentary.

It's great to see that this show is being watched and re watched and watched again 23 years later. A true testament to the absolute amazing quality of the show.

Bless you lovely girls… I assume you’re from Poland, one of the first peoples to witness Nazi atrocities. As an American I see seeds of bourgeoning fascism in my country, and some in parts of Europe as well. We must stand together to make sure we don’t see history repeat itself, in honor of the people shown in this episode. Thank you for doing this video.

@mysam4504

Жыл бұрын

I can't appreciate your comment enough. I see it too.

@mo45327

Жыл бұрын

They are from Serbia. That's why they recognize the language in that scene

@benholt06

Жыл бұрын

@@mo45327 Thanks for the info! I didn't realize the extent of the Nazi crimes against peoples in the Balkans region. I've been reading and learning more.

@andreagiuntini6945

11 ай бұрын

@benholt06 unfortunately nazism and fascism have never gone away. They have always been present under the line. Someone says that once nazism touch a country, this country will be marked forever.

@benholt06

11 ай бұрын

@@andreagiuntini6945 Very true. It's always been there in the margins, but in my country it is becoming mainstream in one of our major political parties.

If this series is difficult for you to watch, be aware “The Pacific” is much more graphic and brutal.

@self-transforming_machine-elf

Жыл бұрын

And much less impactful

@traiascacodreanu4553

Жыл бұрын

@@self-transforming_machine-elf That depends.

@itsmogar3724

Жыл бұрын

@@self-transforming_machine-elf the impacts are different between the two. The pacific does a really good job at portraying the mental toll on soldiers in the pacific theatre of the war. Both sides were hard but each had different effects on the soldiers.

@haaxeu6501

Жыл бұрын

Band of Brothers is about war turning men into brothers. The Pacific is about war turning men into monsters.

@CRR60mg

Жыл бұрын

Pacific, while being a fantastic piece, never had the same effect on me as Band of Brothers. Maybe BofB had that much of an impact because I have personal ties to that part of the world but still ...

The camp depicted in Band of Brothers is Kaufering IV and what actually happened there is far different than what is shown in Band of Brothers. The camp was actually liberated by the 12th Armored Division on April 27, 1945, with some units of the 101st Airborne Division arriving on April 28 and Easy Company arriving on April 29 (with the 522nd Field Artillery Battalion and 36th Infantry Division arriving on April 30). And there were only about 7 prisoners found alive (those who had hidden), along with about 500 bodies. From the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum: _As US armed forces approached the Kaufering complex in late April 1945, the SS began evacuating the camps, sending the prisoners on death marches in the direction of Dachau. Those inmates who could not keep up were often shot or beaten to death by the guards. At Kaufering IV, the SS set fire to the barracks killing hundreds of prisoners who were too ill or weak to move._ _When the 12th Armored Division and 101st Airborne Division arrived at Kaufering IV on April 27 and 28, respectively, the soldiers discovered some 500 dead inmates. In the days that followed, the US Army units ordered the local townspeople to bury the dead._

My grandpa (father’s side) served in WW2 when he was 17 years old. He had so many tragic memories. This was one of them. He didn’t like talking about it. I really don’t blame him. For God’s sake, millions of Jews were murdered from this tragedy. They shall all rest in peace. Especially my grandpa who died back in 2012. 😔

It should be noted that Easy Company did not discover the camp. They took a very reasonable artistic license here as Easy company did encounter the camp but it was discovered by a completely different regiment and I believe most of the events portrayed were actually more reflective of that unit.

You have officially survived the toughest episode of the series. If there was ever any question, as Webster put it only scenes earlier, after this anyone fighting in the European Theater definitely understood why they were there, and as the episode is titled, Why We Fight. It's a far cry from why we usually fight now. Good for you both for sticking it out. This is an important thing for everyone to see and think about. On a brighter note, if at the end of the series you've enjoyed it and you want to check out some of the behind-the-scenes stuff, Ron Livingston shot a vlog during their whole actor boot camp experience. It's much more lighthearted, and Ron is just a lovable guy. It would give you both a break from the tear-factory, and it's also really impressive how they prepped the cast to make this piece of art a really incredible monument to a bygone era and its heroes. Thanks for keeping it up and always making great content!

When I was 9 years old in New York City, it was mandatory that we take a class about the Holocaust. Imagine it's 8:30 AM, you're just a child, and you have to sit and watch actual footage of the concentration camps.

My grandmother, great grandmother and great grandfather came to the US in 1938 from Poland. They said when they had enough money the would bring my grandmothers 3 brothers over to the US and when they had sponsors to say they had work in the US to immigrate properly. Germanys invasion happened in 1939 into Poland. They never made it. After joining the Polish resistance they were sent to a deathcamp when captured in 1943. They fought against the nazi party for four years before they disappeared and later records determined they were sent to Treblinka. Scenes like this hurt my soul so badly but at the same time a constant reminder of what we can never allow to happen again.

Having seen the series a number of times over the years, I have at some point skipped some of the episodes I don't particularly like - but I always make a point of watching this one, to keep reminding myself what it actually was all about, and that as horrble as this depiction is, it is a far cry from what the real horror would have been. On the other hand, I am now more grateful than ever, that I stumbled across your channel, just as you started this series - or more precisely, it got recommened because you started reacting to this series... As a German, I am well used to hearing my own language at various scenes in movies about ww2, but I find myself unable to comprehend, how it must have felt to hear your own language totally unexpected in this scene of all. I find that scene heartbreaking as a not very emotional person, but I never realized what language it was, or what was said - finally knowing makes it hit much harder.

In my life as a nurse, I cared for 3 people who had their numbers tattooed on their arms. They had survived medical experiments in the camps. My Dad was in WWII. He said you could smell the camps 2 miles away. That's all he would say.

And note that the camp depicted was not an extermination camp, it was a concentration camp. The concentration camps had a fatality rate between "only" 40-60%. The 6 extermination camps (Chełmno, Bełżec, Sobibór, Treblinka, Majdanek and Auschwitz-Birkenau) were all located in occupied Poland and were liberated by the Red Army. The extermination camps had a fatality rate of 90%. My father was lucky bacause he had already been collected for deportation to Auschwitz by the Hungarian authorities, but a German SS officer noticed from his papers that his mother was Catholic and sent him home. Yes, even in the SS there were officers like that. All the more surpising, because the deportation of the Hungarian Jews was organized by Eichman with an SS staff of only about a 100 ... the actual work was carried out by the Hungarian Gendarmerie. An uncle was taken to Auschwitz with his father. He returned, but his father died there, mainly due, according to my uncle, to depriving himself of the meagre food rations, giving portions to my uncle so he could survive.

The Band of Brothers is based a book by the American historian Stephen Ambrose of the same title, Band of Brothers about the exploits of a regiment of American soldiers, the 506th regiment of the 101rst airborne. They were considered by some historians as the best rifle infantry of WWII. The book was factually based. Stephen Spielberg and Tom Hanks did a great job making this documentary to accurately follow the book. The actors in this series are based on true characters of the 506th, and the documentary is based on reality. My son in law had the privilege of serving in the 101rst Airborne, the 506th Regiment infantry-40 years later and saw combat in Iraq and Afghanistan.

IMO, the most poignant scene in the entire series when Liebgott had to tell them to get back in the camp. Broke my heart. EDIT: To appease the anti- S'ites

@Daario_

Жыл бұрын

fun fact he wasn't

@aryzen2781

Жыл бұрын

@@Daario_ how do you know

@Daario_

Жыл бұрын

@@aryzen2781 . Apparently He was Roman Catholic, went to catholic school. His fellow soldiers assume he was jewish because of his surname, appearance and his hatred for nazis. He is also spoke an Austrian dialect that was confused with Yiddish. He never corrected his fellow soldiers because he found it amusing.

@TheBongReyes

Жыл бұрын

@@aryzen2781 Many historians have done breakdowns of Band of Brothers. One of the things that the show got wrong was portraying Liebgott as Jewish. He wasn’t. Show states Liebgott returned to San Francisco and got his taxi. Liebgott’s own son stated Liebgott actually became a barber. Just like the show said Blithe didn’t survive his injury which he actually did and even fought in the Korean War.

@johnappleseed9290

Жыл бұрын

No he wasn’t, stop spreading lies. Smfh

You don't disappear a segment of your own population without rumors going around. The extras did a good job in portraying the prisoners because I imagine that's the best the makeup department could safely do because the real prisoners looked like skeletons! A takeaway is that the Nazis were not mustache-twirling villains but everyday people. EDIT: I liked what you said Lola, most people didn't stand up and said something precisely because it was so risky, and it was very rare the person who actually spoke out.

@Velkan1396

Жыл бұрын

Im afraid most of what we are seeing isn't makeup. Those extras are mostly patients in advanced stages of cancer who volunteered for the job.

@joefriedman9843

Жыл бұрын

I think I get your point to some degree but the framing is off here. The Nazis were horrific but not necessarily all Germans were horrific. Anyone who believed in the Nazi idealogy can't really be absolved so easily because they were very clearly part of the problem that led to one of the worst genocides in modern history. I would assume most Germans wouldn't appreciate you using the word Nazi as a synonymous term for all Germans at the time..

My father, Klaus was born in Hamburg, Germany in 1939. He lived there with his brothers Hans and Lutz and Oma and Opa. They lost everything when their apartment was bombed. They moved to Belin to live with my grandfather's brother, Hugo. Unfortunately for my family, they suffered more bombing until Hitler killed himself and Germany surrendered. Opa was never a member of the Nazi party. He never believed in the Nazi party's philosophy. This is why my family was allowed to immigrate to the United States in 1953.

As a German, I can say that this is one of the best implementations of a concentration camp. And also how it was done in the film. Without being able to prepare for it as a spectator. Learn from it and don't look away when someone is discriminated against. Concentration camps, slavery, genocide, etc. was wrong is wrong and will always be wrong.

I had family that did not make it out of Europe in the 1920's and early 1930's. They were victims of the slaughter. It hurts to know that there are actually people that deny it happened. Your emotion warms my heart a bit and hope more younger generations all over the world see and learn from this.

I think in 1945 those images would’ve been more shocking to see. In 2023 in the day of instant communication news and images travel a lot quicker and are more easily accessed than ever before. I learned about these events in elementary school and it’s something I was aware of as young as nine.

@flooglebinder3493

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree. Today, we’ve had 80 years to learn through documentation and literature of these atrocities, but to come across is first-hand in the 1940’s with nothing like this to draw experience from previously is just indescribable

@dennishensel2036

Жыл бұрын

Back in 1966 as a 13 year old boy we were stationed in butzbach Germany. My father was in co A 2nd battalion 32nd armor. We visited Dachau concentration camp a very sobering experience. What those poor people went through was unbelievable. Hope and pray this will never happen again.

15:37 & 26:28 What is interesting is that the eyes of soldier and lady were opposed to each other. In the first scene, there was a sense of alertness to intruders in the house and anger for her husband. The soldier also seemed to feel guilty. However, when german moving the Jewish body, the lady was depressed, and on the contrary, the soldier showed angry look in front of the wife.

Placing this as Episode 9 was a perfect decision. Viewers have built a healthy amount of respect and sympathy for these men and watching them thrust into this situation makes it all the more bittersweet in identifying with them as well as the prisoners. The thought of some of these battle-hardened veterans openly weeping at the sight of the camp, which truly happened, lets you know that, despite everything, that have not lost their humanity. My grandfather, a Captain and tank platoon commander in the American Army, helped to liberate one of the Mauthausen subcamps. While he would share some war stories, he refused to describe his experiences there, only mentioning he was involved in it's liberation.

Funny fact. The second to last episode of the Last season of The Expanse, is also called Why we Fight.

The combat jump Nixon participated in and described to Winters was called “Operation Varsity”. My father made this jump as 2nd Lieutenant. They jumped over the Rhine river

As an American I’m proud of you young ladies for watching this and baring your emotions. It’s frustrating as an American to know of the sacrifices of millions of us to preserve and restore the freedom of others across the world. We have been clumsy and we have mishandled international circumstances but there is no denying that the American people are more committed to freedom than any other country in the history of the world. We are those most charitable of any country in the world. When disasters strike Americans are the most dependable to show up to help…not for any reason but love and compassion. There are many Americans who hate their own country for our old fashioned ideals but it’s because they have enjoyed relative peace and prosperity that is unprecedented in history. There is real evil in the world. It does not rest in the hearts of the American people. God bless you ladies

The Allies were not aware of the Nazi's "Final Solution" camps. They knew that there were camps all around from aerial reconnaissance, but didn't know what they were for until they actually went into the camps. That's why they made the local Germans help out in the clean up so they could see for themselves what their own government were up to. It got so bad, a German town mayor hung himself in shame. 15:32 When Nixon scoffs at the dead German officer's portrait, his widow scowls at him for being the invader into her home. 26:26 Later the roles are reversed as we see Nixon staring down the widow while she cleans up the bodies. They played this scene really well as most Germans really didn't know about the camp's existence. 20:23 This prisoner actor is probably the star of the episode. When questioned if they were criminals, he gives a look of shock. He realises that the Americans really do not know what the camp was about. 20:53 That's why he starts crying; he realises that they haven't found the other camp yet and whatever family he has there is still locked up.

HBO also did a series called "Generation Kill" that follows a Marine company in Iraq

@traiascacodreanu4553

Жыл бұрын

Report on the status of JLO

Our responsibility is to learn from history and not repeat it.

As bad as this film was it was watered down or it could not have been shown. i have seen the uncensored footage filmed by the army and it is beyond horrific. i am a very strong minded man but it broke me and once seen it can not be unseen. the biggest part of the ones that survived had lost everything no home no family no friends no where to go. as for a lot of the soldiers that liberated these camps they were never the same when they went home they had seen death on a big scale but nothing could have prepared them for what they found. i knew 2 men who were part of the army who first found these camps and for the rest of their lives they had screaming nightmares every single night untill they passed away 50 and 54 years later they never told of what they saw and if asked they would leave the room crying and visibly shaking and i understand why after seeing the real filming. I Hope all that suffered now rest in eternal peace...

I am somewhat overwhelmed by the fact that you two young women make it, with this episode and others, a duty to remember the atrocities that the Nazis and other extreme-right (or left) dictatorships did to not only their people, but others as well. I find this very refreshing, in this era of historical negatitivism. Kudos to you. Personally, I visited some of those camps (of course much later after the war, I'm just 58) but I also have been to numerous refugee camps around the world; including in Peshawar, Pakistan, during the invasion of Afghanistan by the USSR, in the 80'. It seems to me that we, as a human race, keep making the same mistakes. Your empathy is remarkable, in this era again of perverse narcissism. Thank you. I will be watching your channel, from now on.

Thank you for reacting to this one, Lola and Milena

This episode shows that Germany should have been stopped at the beggining, and the question "why fight" was ridiculous. Concentration camps exist today. For example in China and North Korea(basically entire country is huge concentration camp). And countries like those need to be stopped. Best example of how people did not learn anything from history is how weak was the response to Russian attack on Ukraine.

@epsdudez

Жыл бұрын

The allies never went to war with Germany because of the holocaust. Such crimes were uncovered after the fact. War was declared because Germany kept annexing/invading its neighbor countries. The sad reality is that if they had kept to their own borders, they probably would have gotten away with and fully realized the holocaust. The countries you've mentioned are keenly aware of this fact; that's why they're keeping to themselves and getting away with it, not to mention the true reason why nothing can be done about it at least militarily, nukes.

@benschultz1784

Жыл бұрын

Forced Labor camps still exist in Siberia as they have since the time of the Tsars.

@traiascacodreanu4553

Жыл бұрын

Yeah lets simply stop a nuclear power. Its all so simple. Just simply deploy our simple troops.

"We must never forget" is commonly spoken about the Holocaust. Although it is painful, it is episodes like this that might prevent future Holocausts. We must watch with open eyes.

Reality is painful... as it should be. My great grandfather told me in the 90s that he never knew how evil a man could be until he landed in Italy. He fought up the boot, the whole way. He talked about it once or twice with my father and I, but always cried. It tore my heart out to see my 90 year old grandfather sit down and cry. He was bulletproof to me.

@iammanofnature235

Жыл бұрын

_Reality is painful... as it should be._ In reality, Easy Company never liberated a concentration\labor camp. The camp depicted in Band of Brothers is Kaufering IV which was actually liberated by the 12th Armored Division on April 27, 1945, with some units of the 101st Airborne Division arriving on April 28 and Easy Company arriving on April 29. for dramatic purposes, Easy Company is shown liberating the camp. From the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum: As US armed forces approached the Kaufering complex in late April 1945, the SS began evacuating the camps, sending the prisoners on death marches in the direction of Dachau. Those inmates who could not keep up were often shot or beaten to death by the guards. At Kaufering IV, the SS set fire to the barracks killing hundreds of prisoners who were too ill or weak to move. When the 12th Armored Division and 101st Airborne Division arrived at Kaufering IV on April 27 and 28, respectively, the soldiers discovered some 500 dead inmates. In the days that followed, the US Army units ordered the local townspeople to bury the dead.

My great grandfather was with the men that found another concentration camp. He rarely spoke of it, but it's the only time I have ever seen a tear in his eye. He wanted to emphasize the value of kindness to me and my sister, and the dangers of blind hatred. I miss him. He was as wise as he was gentle.

No matter how hard it is…. EVERYONE should see this and absorb how low humanity can go…

Keith Woods: "russian" oligarchs. Igor Kolomoisky. Great russian famine, Holodomor, Famine in Khazakhstan, Lazar Kaganovich, Genrikh Yagoda, Aron Solts, Filipp Goloshchyokin, Yakov Yurovsky, Lazar Kogan, Matvei Berman, Naftaly Frenkel, Salomon Morel, Helena Brus.

Back in 1970 I entered a V.A. hospital for the first time, I was 21 years old then. During the week I was there they put me a ward with some older men. We got to talking shop they asked about my war, Veit Nam, and I asked about theirs, WW II. One of the men told me about entering one of those places, Belson I think. Then he said when they left the men in his unit looked at each other it was a rare moment when the eyes say it all no words were needed and everyone agreed. From that event on NO members of the SS where taken as prisoners! None! And he was proud of that which made me feel proud if them too! I used to fell that story and bleeding hearts would try to shame me for what I felt. Then I would explain in profane, blasphemous language how much I did not care what they felt or said!!!

Gerda was in a Holocaust camp when the Americans freed them. She told the American officer, Kurt Klein, she was a Jew and then after a long pause he told her so was he. He asked where the other ladies were, a term she had not heard used for many years. Gerda said, "He held the door open for me and let me precede him and restored me to humanity again. And he has been opening the door for me for 50 years - my husband." kzread.info/dash/bejne/oJds0Md_oayfpqQ.html

You MUST watch The Pacific!

I'm happy you guys decided to watch this show.

We're so far removed from these events that most (civilian and solder) who lived through them have passed on. I learned of these events from my Uncle (WWII Anzio vet), and my mom and Dad. All since passed. Its my fear at 62 that today's generations have no ability to understand the lessons those generations paid for in blood. For anyone who thinks this era is more "civilized"..... and that we "know better now".... remember this. Within the last 123 years, from 1900 to now, roughly 130 million people have died at the hands of dictators. Mao Zedong - 78M Stalin - 23M Hitler - 17M Tojo - 5M Esmail Pasha - 2.5M Pol Pot - 1.7M Kim Il Sung - 1.6M Mengistu Haile Mariam - 1.5M Yakubu Gowon - 1.1M

@doraramos2930

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for the information.

18:40 "Please, help me! Help me!" 34:00 You are absolutely right, but you must know that, before Hitler was raised to a power, Stalin established a terror regimen in the Soviet Union putting political opposition and Jews into Gulags. Hitler perfectioned and mechanized the Soviet Gulags.

I just noticed that Michael Fasbender (younger Magneto in X Men) and Tom Hardy were in this episode

Imagine surviving the hell of Bastogne to find out there is something worse.

@doraramos2930

2 ай бұрын

Yep ❤

One aspect of this episode is brilliant. It opens and closes with beautiful art, ie. music. The middle is the ugliest of atrocities. It isn't just music, it is Beethoven, the greatest German composer. This shows not just that humans are capable of the finest or worst things, but even the same group of humans, Germans are capable of both extremes.

@shugaroony

Жыл бұрын

Well said, I was about to make the same point. The Germans were rightfully proud of their culture, science and art; yet it shows how such an intelligent people can stoop so low under the authority of a madman.

My grandfather and grandmother survived the worst camps, Auschwitz and Bergen Belsen. Both were more death camps than any other. This camp in this episode is a drop in the bucket of the Nazi oppression that occurred, a drop.

Significant point made at the beginning: Mozart was Austrian, Beethoven was German. Hitler was Austrian. At that moment when Nixon tells them Hitler is dead and corrects them on the music, its symbolic of German destiny being back in the German people's hands...and that ended up including the guilt. On that note, it's important to learn from this. In college, I acted in a stage play about the life of a Christian lady, Corrie ten Boom, who helped hide Jews and then survived the camps at Ravensbruck. In that time, I studied the Holocaust in great detail, watched most of the movies, documentaries, etc and I got pretty depressed overall. I've seen this scene many times, and I must say, it is easy to become numb to it. In the end, our values must centered in truth, not emotion alone, otherwise once we are numb to it, we can be capable of anything. The Germans in many instances claimed ignorance of what occurred locally. Some were in proximity to places that operated starting in 1939. The Nazi regime didn't just exterminate Jews, etc. They killed a significant amount of Poles just because, but they also targeted their own. These included mentally handicapped and those with congenital conditions, and these programs were especially targeted at children, ironically using the same verbiage that abortion advocates and medical experts who euthanize/sterilize use when describing their reasoning. Germans lived in towns next to "euthanasia centers", hospitals etc where they could see and smell the smoke from the ovens for 5+ years straight. The German people were aware of this program from the beginning, and after two years public pressure caused Hitler to "officially" end the program, which meant it kept going anyway. The German people allowed the Nazis to take power because they promised restored prosperity. They could have this if they just gave up their rights, their rights to firearms, free speech, property, liberty etc. They knew enough to know they had the responsibility to act, but chose not to because it meant giving up what they valued more, i.e comfort, money, life, etc. Even now, most governments in the world hold sway over significant portions of their citizen's lives. The people are aware, to various degrees, of evil that occurs at the hands of their governments, but they choose to let it slide. They make excuses, they give reasons, they claim that they are incapable of stopping the evil. Many claim, even now, that they "support the X people not the X government." In the end, all peoples are responsible for what their governments do, even if they are not directly guilty. We carry the consequences regardless. Its time for the people of the world to take responsibility and hold evil accountable, no matter what the cost. Only then can we have the paradises we keep hoping for.

@drach420

Жыл бұрын

The "That's not Beethoven, that's Mozart" is a reference to a line in Schindler's List. A SS officer is playing the piano, and one German says to another "Who is this, Bach?" "No, it's Mozart". It's an intentional callback as both BoB and SL are Spielberg productions.

@martinloss4171

Жыл бұрын

Technically, Mozart was a German too. He even saw himself as German (there are several letters where this mentioned). But this is only one (simple) way to see it.

I strongly recommend following this with From the Earth to the Moon. Definitely not as emotionally draining

The best job I think I will ever have was at a company in st louis called devan. The owner was a survivor of the camps, had a tattoo just like they show just like cattle and yet he was the most gentle man ive ever met. Once while hearing I was looking for a car he walked up to me and handed me 500 dollars. He didnt say anything just smiled and walked off.

Schindler’s list and Saving Private Ryan are two must see movies with band of brothers

Do yourself a favor and watch the HBO documentary "We Stand Alone Together" after you finish the series - with more interviews with the vets, more of the vets you dint see interviewed in the series (Bull, Buck, others). You also see how they stayed close knit and kept up with each other and each others' families.

The on-going tragedy in liberating such camps resulted from the soldiers' humanity in immediately wanting to eat and free the prisoners, which was a deadly mistake. Many prisoners died from their bodies being unable to handle even small bites of food. Containment and serious medical treatment was also a major priority for the rampant, highly contagious typhoid and dysentery which had so ravaged the prisoners' bodies that treatment was already too late for many.

This indeed was one of the most gut-wrenching episodes of this fantastic series from HBO. When the baker told the soldier that he didn't know what went on in the camps, he was right. It wasn't really given out to the general public. The people knew of the existence of the camps but thought it was just for criminals or political prisoners. And you know who told me of this? My mother. She was Austrian and didn't have any choice but to live under Hitler. But she was never told what went on in the camps. She's passed on now. She married my father after the war when he was in the British army after the war. He has passed as well.

While the whole series is a superb piece of tv cinematography, there are couple of stand out episodes. The winter battle of Bastogne is one, the other is this. I'm a 60yo guy, who has seen things like The World at War, which was - and still is - one of tv's greatest series, and many other documentaries, but I was weeping all through this. Sincerest kudos to you two for your reaction, as you're still young as to not have seen things like this, and your crying shows how empathic you are. The music throughout the series is a perfect match for each episode too. It makes me want to see the rest of your reactions to this now.