Baling Hay with an Antique Tractor - Allis-Chalmers WD and Farmall Super C
In this episode, we are raking our hay with a Farmall Super C and an Oliver hay rake. We are baling with an Allis-Chalmers WD and a New Holland 268 square bailer. The hay gets hauled off with our 1971 International Loadstar. I hope you enjoy the antique equipment in operation!
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Great to see all this old iron at work,well done! I loved watching the AC at work,and the IH flatbed was ocing on the cake! Im glad I came across this,its great to see the youth keeping the old traditions alive.
@joelumber320
6 ай бұрын
I am glad you enjoyed it! We certainly enjoy the old equipment too.
Boy, do I wish KZread came with Smell-O-Vision™. I _love_ the smell of hay.
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
Жыл бұрын
So do we!
Thank you for keeping the history of Allis Chalmers alive...
@joelumber320
Жыл бұрын
You are welcome. Thank you for watching!!
My father’s barn used to be home to a pair of AC crawlers. I still smile when I see that orangish-red. He also had a Cat 22, and a neighbor had a little Oliver crawler.
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
Жыл бұрын
Those are nice crawlers!
Hi Folks, Love the sound of that tracker when it's working
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Old baler working good as got shined up a bit.
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
Good video,, like to see the old school still being used,, I bale 80 acres with a farmal 706, new Holland 273 baler, and home built wooden hay wagon ,, cousin and I take turns staken
@joelumber320
11 ай бұрын
Thank you. Keep up the hard work.
A whole lotta hay was put up in the day with those machines. It's great to see them still hard at it!
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
Жыл бұрын
It has been fun!
That WD brings back memories. Looks like your storing the tractors outside, put a bucket over the exhaust stacks to keep rain out of the engines.
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
Sheds are getting built this winter. Glad we could bring back memories!!
@hubertbergen3000
Жыл бұрын
Always had a tim can in the tool box so we could cover the exhaust when away from the home place.
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
Жыл бұрын
@@hubertbergen3000 Same here!
I love the sound of that old Allis. I spent many hours on one working it.
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
Жыл бұрын
I am glad you could enjoy it like we did!
Someone at sometime also told him that grease and oil is cheaper than metal, brought back memories, good video! Fred
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
Loved the video.!I am following along and thanks for sharing yalls hard work days.
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
Now you guys have done more farming than me. But I have grown up my whole life around Allis Chalmers and I found it is the best to use the hand clutch when backing up to equipment. It gives you a smother start.
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
I never thought of that. Thank you
@isaacmonda4622
2 жыл бұрын
Your welcome. My grandpa loved allis chalmers and when he passed away I got all his tractors. They were all Wd's and wd 45's so I have been working with them.. Last week I hooked up a brush hog to one and used the hand clutch to get a smoother approach. I figured I could pass along the advice. You guys are doing great. Keep it up. 💯 👌
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
@@isaacmonda4622 thank you. Enjoy your tractors!!
@isaacmonda4622
2 жыл бұрын
@@adventuresofjoeanddani5167 Thanks, you too.
@trevorslater2746
Жыл бұрын
Your new teeth are actually called tines ,my Dad used to hire a hay rake like yours but it looked quite modern in the 60s New Holland ?
Good job of making use of what you have and getting it done!
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
We baled hayfor 30 plus years with a WD 45 Allis and a New Holland Baler. Those were hard days of work, but I do miss them from time to time
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
Glad we could bring back good memories!
That New Holland baler model 268 brought back some great memories of my hay makin' days. 6 to 7,000 bales of hay and 2,500 bales of oat straw for my herd of dairy cows and youngstock!! I made my bales about a foot longer than what your look like. We had a chute on the baler and pulled a wagon behind and stacked them ad we baled. Good to see someone still using the older equipment. New just toooooo costly!!!
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
Жыл бұрын
That is a lot of baling! Glad we could bring back some good memories.
Used to make 4 to 5000 bales a year with a WD45 and a John Deere 24T baler. We had 4 wagons we could load about 140 bales ( about 280 your size). After my Son went to College, l would drop them on the ground like you, then my wife would pull a wagon with my pickup 🛻 and I would load and stack. We were only making about 6 to 800 by then. I would call folks we knew that needed hay and would sell them hay off the field, cheaper if they would pick them up and load in the field. Just a suggestion, store the baler in a shed or at least covered with a tarp. Also use some spray lube (WD-40 or something similar) on the knotter and bale chamber plunger. It Really Helps.
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
Great suggestions! We plan to build a small shed later this summer to store the baler.
We both belong to a small group of people who have used tow trucks to pick up bales. In our case it was a smaller truck but we could still get 70 bales on it ( about 140 of yours! ) 😁
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
That is pretty cool! Keep on trucking.
Use a lower gear with more RPM's, also use hand clutch so PTO continues so baler can run.
@pronghorntractorwork
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. If you let the tractor lug down that far, the baler is more likely to miss a knot.
@davejohnson2937
Жыл бұрын
yup definitely use hand clutch to get through the wads of grass..
Awesome video. me and my wife baled lots of hay for nearly twenty years with small tractors and an old flatbed truck to haul it. The work is hard but productive God Blees Ya'll.
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Bellissimo video 👍 📹
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
Grazie!
When raking you should always try to travel the same direction as when it was cut. It picks up the hay better.
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
Great advice
Love your video, guys! Great to see you’re doing a good job with the old equipment. I believe in keeping the old tractors n equip alive (really just can’t afford new…) I’ve always worked with hand-me-downs and buy others at auction so as to have quite a variety to choose from. Y’all keep up the good work and keep the old ‘stuff’ a runnin. 👋
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Just finised my 2nd cut hay, Farmall C with sickle mower strugeld through heavy alfalfa and fox tail. Allis CA on tedder and rake and NH 268 pulled with Allis D 15 seris 2.
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
Жыл бұрын
Good work! Sounds like a fun operation
We do it very similar. WD on a 269 baler. On the ground. But, much easier to gather it with a 4-wheeler pulling an expanded-metal cart. 40 bales per load and do it all from the ground. Put up 1200 bales a year and we're in our mid-60s. Find a tedder as it will dry the hay much better than rolling the windrow with a rake twice.
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
We may find a tedder in the future.
You need to get that woman a hat and some shades, lol
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
I will try!
I remember the same bailer and tractor. I think we didn't have the guard on the right side of the bailer.
Buen trabajo megusta
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
Gracias!
Hay hooks and hay chaps may be needed as you wear out your pair of jeans. Also, a pair of tweezers will be needed to pull the stickers out of your leg.
You've got some good stuff to start with. New Holland makes great baling equipment. You either need a kicker and a couple of kicker bale wagons or a bale shoot and a couple of flat bed wagons. That baler should be a good one, but you should try to find a tractor with a little hp to run it. Also, you really should find a shield for the pto shaft. I'd hate for one of you to get wrapped up in it. You can try and pick up equipment at local auctions or in classified ads. Best of luck to you. Big Iron auctions among other auction services.
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
Жыл бұрын
Great advice. Thank you.
Use the handles on the baler rear to adjust the cords and have uniforme balle.
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
The New Holland baler seems to tie pretty good.
We call those Oliver Dentures!
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
🤣 Thank you for the laugh
You need to put the rear bale chute back on that baler. It'll make much better shaped and uniform bales.
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
Good tip. After some welding, we should be able to get it back on the next time we use it.
@gregholl5011
2 жыл бұрын
Is that why they are making such short bales?
@gregholl5011
2 жыл бұрын
Don't hit yourself in the face picking them up!😀
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
@@gregholl5011 i adjusted the baler to produce short bales. Putting the chute back on should help square them up a little (hay is packing tighter on one side than the other).
@trevorslater2746
2 жыл бұрын
@@adventuresofjoeanddani5167 shorter on 1 side can mean the knives need sharpening or you could unwind the tension on the short side ,very short bales ,rounded bales we call bananas, happy harvest
The metal rods that are underneath the rake need to be straightened so the teeth won't rub on them. Makes the rake a lot quieter and the teeth last longer.
Looks good...👍
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Through the coal to it let's go
Did you cut the hay with a blunt knife. You left half the crop on the ground. Make the bales longer makes them easier to stack and not so many to pick up.
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
With a misadjusted sickle, yes. The small bales are by design.
14:50 YOU need to make a ' stoneboat ' for the bales. Use 4 x 6 skids, 4 of them 8 feet long, 2 feet apart, or so. Bevel the front, so as to ride the ground like a boat. Screw a couple 1 inch thick, 4 x 8 plywood sheets to them. Add a one point hitch, and hook up to the tow pipe, at the right rear of baler. Saw a slot, about in the middle of the centre, 6 feet long. Stack bales, onto this, 3 or 4 on bottom row, 2 or 3 next, 1 or 2 next, to top it off. Then, just poke a long crowbar into slot, and push off onto field. THIS WILL SAVE YOU many less pickup points, with flatdeck, trucks, etc. (Add a 2 inch pipe, 2 feet long, in one front corner of this sled- place crowbar into this ) ;(from old farm boy)
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
Great advice, thank you
@petersack5074
2 жыл бұрын
@@adventuresofjoeanddani5167 Grandpa and dad, had one on the farm, in Saskatchewan in the 60s. Make yours, to suit the size of your bale 'stack' on it. Stack the bottom row, on their SIDE, so the baler twine is NOT ON THE GROUND ! Most important ! Mice and rotting would occur !
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
@@petersack5074 great advice.
The more cute little b a l e s you got to get him a little longer the judgments on top of their own that on top of the Baylor the one that runs by the needles there is a clamp
You need to cut that grass way shorter...leaving lots of feed in the field. Adjust your baler to make longer bales too. You will also be better off if you combine some of your windrows...they look awfully small.
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the advice. The small bales were by design though.
That pto shield on the baler makes me nervous.
@joelumber320
Жыл бұрын
Old equipment like this is certainly not the safest.
As your baler misses bale after bale, do you have a couple of pitchforks? These will be neeeded all day.
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
Жыл бұрын
Only 1 broken bale this go around.
need more rpm for baler
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
We ran the RPMs low to keep the tractor speed lower (1st gear), but we can certainly try running faster next time we bale.
Do you need me to bring my Farmhand over and pick up those bales? My Farmhand is mounted on my tractor and has a Hay Basket that will gather 12 bales and place them on your truck.
Why did you make your bales so short? Sure makes them hard to stack that way, and uses a lot more twine. I've done thousands and thousands with a WD or 45 and New Holland.
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
We made them short so that they would be easier for my wife to lug around this winter. You are right they dont stack as well!
@Chevy4x4dawg
Жыл бұрын
Just a suggestion. Make the regular size and you wife just cuts twine and take what's needs to feed out.
I don't understand the small bales and not being loose. Tension looks ok but evidently needs to be tighter and definitely need a chute
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
The bales are tight and the small size is mostly for convenience.
@richardstainbrook9633
2 жыл бұрын
Read the manual before using 11 strokes per bail adjust speed accordingly
Bales seem to be a little bit short.
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
Жыл бұрын
Short by design. Thank you for watching.
Why the baby bales
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
Emergency bales that are easier to move for my pregnant wife.
Stacking needs to be refined. The broken board on the truck bed is a broken bone hazard. Good luck.
Most of your hay was left in the field unmowed.
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
Next cycle we will get the mower tuned up better.
@trevorslater2746
2 жыл бұрын
@@adventuresofjoeanddani5167 your grass might have been cut shorter but leaving it longer will help it recover quicker and the ground will stay moister so won't dry out which means more grass growth, You done pretty good, always things to learn no matter how long you've been doing it :-)
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
@@trevorslater2746 thank you! We appreciate the positive support.
Your ground speed must be faster to make the rake work correctly, the bales should be longer
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@trevorslater2746
2 жыл бұрын
Bale length is adjustable at the baler ,not rake ground speed
Short britches?????????????
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
Жыл бұрын
I make sure to fully wear them out!
Your not going fast enough
That is putting hay with pure junk equipment
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you?
@trevorslater2746
2 жыл бұрын
You use what you've got ,I've got an old 47 international baler ,still does the job eh
@oransmith6009
Жыл бұрын
@@trevorslater2746 You must not put up very much, as if you did it would be wore out
That was painful to watch. How to make baling hay the most work possible. Maybe the camera lady should put the camera down and actually help. SMFH.
@adventuresofjoeanddani5167
Жыл бұрын
Believe it or not, we put up hay by hand a few years ago.