Exactly what I was looking for, a non-sponsored review. Thanks!

Exactly what I was looking for, a non-sponsored review. Thanks! I hate scratches and plastics mounted to metal cheap designs.

what unites ppl with trucks is the OCD lol. I have a 2017 tacoma. I cannot stand it being dirty inside and out. OP was complaining about the how easily the cover scratches and that is something I will take into account. Great Vid!

@NSQGarage

4 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help!

Thanks for the review, and it's also really nice to see you responding to various questions. Found a few answers to questions I had myself actually, so thanks for that as well!

@NSQGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help!

Thanks for the review. This is exactly how products are improved and why.

Thanks for the honest feedback!

Honest and easy to understand. Awesome video. Thank you for posting

Thanks for the follow up, just what I was wanting to hear. Also thanks for swapping the chrome third brake with a tinted, my OCD was going off the scales on the first vid.

@NSQGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha I feel ya man

Great video. Your honest review is greatly appreciated.

I would expect more for a 1000 tonneau cover. Thanks for the video.

Such a classic video! My son is so proud of you and your contributions to KZread

@NSQGarage

7 ай бұрын

🤣

I just had my MX4 with Bak Box2 toolbox installed on GMC today. The store wanted to sell me the G2 saying it was just as good because the MX4 was on backorder but I didn't like g2 being made of lighter material and having to open it to close tailgate since the seal overlaps. I love look and function of MX4 but anything is better than the raggedy bowed torn vinyl Lund cover I had previously. Thanks for honest review.

@peteross4879

3 жыл бұрын

I just ordered mine. How are you liking yours? Have you had issues with it?

Thanks for the update. Love your content.

Really appreciate the review! Thank you. 👍

Thanks for the honest review. I have been doing research for my Denali. I haven't pulled the trigger yet. Your review is very open and honest. When you are spending almost a grand on a cover it should hold up to the "day to day" expected use and wear and tear. Anything less, the company deserves to go out of business.

@NSQGarage

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for he nice comment mike

@utahnick

Жыл бұрын

What did you end up buying? I'm looking for my canyon denali right now

Excellent video. Thanks for the thorough review and tips.

You may want to try some black paste shoe polish in one of those flat cans. Rub a little on, let it soak in and then rub off the excess with a soft cloth. It probably won't get it all out but probably look anywhere from 40 to 80 percent better.

I'm doing my research on different makes and models. Thanks for doing the video.

@M0DFATH3R

4 жыл бұрын

What’s the best?

I have what I’m sure is a Bak on my 2014 F-150 that I purchased from Ford when I bought it in 2014. The roof does have a couple dings where I’d parked it under an Oak one night in a campground and acorns struck it. It’s not that bad at all. Anyway, I loved and still love the cover. I’d spray it with 303 in the warmer months to prevent any fading. Whether it would have faded or not without it? I cannot say but it hasn’t faded any over the last 8+ years. It does have a few scratches though. Be nice if they made a touch up stick Now, last week I bought a Tundra 1794 model that came with the same cover. It looks sharp and they’re so easy to raise and lower. I do plan on removing it during summer months to put topper on for camping trips. How nice it can be removed and replaced so easily

Thank you for this thorough review. I’m back and forth between this and the Extang Solid Fold 2.0

@NSQGarage

4 жыл бұрын

The extang installs in an interesting way. Doesn't seem very "locked down." It is kind of cool how simple it is though. Also, it isnt as sleek if you care about that

@herrebel1100

4 жыл бұрын

Nam Hoang don’t buy this. I have one on my truck for 2 years and it leaks non stop. Spend your money on another company.

@NSQGarage

4 жыл бұрын

@@herrebel1100 where is yours leaking

@NamHoang-wn6zp

4 жыл бұрын

@Heather I really prefer the low profile look over the other option but seems like they’re more prone to leaking from all the videos/feedback I’ve seen. I’ll research and review other brands prior to dropping 1k on one of these. Thank you.

@pamelah6431

2 жыл бұрын

@@herrebel1100 Don't buy this what? Are you saying the Extang or the Bakflip leaks?

good video. Got lucky today and picked up a used cover. My old 2013 bakflip is literally falling apart. The part that you mentioned about falling off is an issue for my find. gonna use some stainless screws and jb weld to put make together.

@NSQGarage

5 жыл бұрын

What type was your old one?

very helpful, im researching too. thanks for the info

I have one on my 2016 , so its 4 years old and i love it.... a few scratches , but i am to blame (not the cover). My concern is security ? If someone can slip a slim-Jim type tool under and catch the pull cord to lock???? I cant find any videos on that or how to prevent it? Cheers.

Thanks for the honest review👍

thank you so much for the info 👍!

Thank you for this review !!!

Love how there is only 2 sided tape and about 7 cheap Rivets to hold the locking bar/release mechs on. I had one in the middle fall off several years ago and finally the main one at the tailgate almost came off… needless to say I had to repair that with putting new tape and a ton of rivets! It will not be falling off before the truck dies.

@NSQGarage

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that could be better

Thanks for the review.

I put a Bakflip HD on my 2010 f150. After 2 years the top layer separated from the core material. Eventually holding rain water and causing the entire surface to lift away. Though I didn’t have much leaking, if any, I can’t stand the edge seals. Two weeks ago I sold my truck. By then, most of the cross members had separated and corroded away from the shell. Two things NOT to do with it; don’t let the top slam shut, and if you live in a hot climate like I do, don’t power wash it.

@NSQGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info!

@Jerlemi2

Жыл бұрын

@@NSQGarage can i take my truck through a carwash with this cover? i worry that it will be damaged

@NSQGarage

Жыл бұрын

@@Jerlemi2 I've never had any issue with it being damaged. I get a bit of water in, but that's it.

@Jerlemi2

Жыл бұрын

@@NSQGarage cool thanks for responding.

@kevinc8026

7 ай бұрын

So what your saying is Handle with care I mean it's only 900 bucks! And don't shoot the piss outta it with a pressure washer! Can I use purple power to clean it? Thanks in advance

As far as security and the knife test everyone talks about, how about someone using a stiff piece of brazing rod with a hook on it to slide between the tail gate and the top to pull on the cable. My neighbor opened his leer 350 with a screwdriver!

Same issues I have you mentioned. Great cover overall

Ty for the review. I heard they now have new prop rods. Otherwise, there's no way I would get it. The scratching issue is ridiculous. Thanks again.

@peteross4879

3 жыл бұрын

I just ordered one. I hope the issues were fixed.

Only real issue i see with that is it scratches easy. The struts that hold up the cover is fine just thread lock it like you said and the is whatever just glue it

As of 5/27/2024 They are now $1,199.99 from Real Truck. My Gator FX3 Broke at the 2nd hinge. I purchased it January 2021 (It only has 2 years of warranty) The MX4 has 5 years of warranty.

Great review, I’ve seen mixed reviews on how to properly shut the tailgate, some people say (and manufacturer) shut the tailgate first lift the cover and lock the cover on top of the tailgate and Ive seen plenty of others who just shut the tailgate closed while the cover is on it’s closed position already, have you had any issues with just closing the tailgate shut on to the cover? Like any damage to the end of the cover? Thanks!

@NSQGarage

3 жыл бұрын

No damage. This model was advertised as safe to close the tailgate last. No issues with the seals in the 3 or so years I have owned it

I work with this dude he’s a class act.

Really good honest review. Did you do the installation yourself? Did you need to buy Support Rails or did this come included?

@NSQGarage

3 жыл бұрын

It comes with everything. Installation is quite easy. If I remember the directions were pretty good.

I like that you can close the gate while it's closed. annoying when you pay $800 lol. wait til you see the price now almost 1100. I think they upgraded the top so that its now made of pure gold and diamonds..

Hi nice review and sweet tail lights and 3rd brake light. Are those vinyl wrap tinted or are they aftermarket lights? Please let me know, im interested into getting mine done. Thanks.

@NSQGarage

5 жыл бұрын

They are smoked lights made by Recon. I've had some leaking issues with one of the tail lights, so I'm not thrilled with them but they look great and a pretty bright

I’ve had mine for 3yrs and one of the locking tracks separated from the panel. Contacted BakFlip and they sent me a brand new set of panels. 5 yr warranty is very awesome ! I had some scratches on mine also so I’m gonna see if I can get the top of the panels line X finished on my replacement. Very happy with their customer service

@NSQGarage

Жыл бұрын

wow, i didn't know they had a 5 year warranty! thats awesome!

Thanks for the review bro. I’m looking to get Bak Flip or Leer for Silverado 1500.

perfect review...real review!

i had the g2 for 4 years. it was fine for 3 years then somehow water started getting inside the cover making it really heavy to fold up and the rubber hinges started to fail and water was getting into the bed. let me talk about the aluminum they use, because 1 hail storm and the cover was dented to the points where it was an eye soar. for $1000 it should have lasted more then 4 years

@NSQGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Dang....I didn't think about hail

I have had one on a 20 F 150 for ~ 13 months. Wolud not buy again. All three cross members buldged and went out of channel. I redrilled/placed screws in different positions and that was fixed. The suppoerts never stay in place in open or bed mode. Finally, both of the rear corner plastic insert caps broke and I had to jerry rig epairs with GG. I have had other brands and none were perfect but this is the worst to date IMO.

I wish they had one like this with more sections in it so when it’s folded all the way up it doesn’t cover the whole back window.

@NSQGarage

4 жыл бұрын

They make some hard rollers that are a little lower when rolled up

I have the G2 which security-wise is the same as this one. There is a way for theives to open it fairly easy. I did it already to see if it would work. I got a hanger and shimmed it under the rubber and pulled the cord that releases the last panel. I don't keep anything of value in there so for me it's no biggie.

@NSQGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm aware. It's better than nothing I guess haha

Thanks for the great review!!!

Great video. Just put one on my truck

WoW!! That green truck just disappeared 🤔

Well done thanks!!

I have this bed cover on my 2018 silverado, after about a year the rubber on the first fold started splitting, and within 2 years it was completely. split across. my main issues is Bakflip does not sell any type of replacemant parts for this, so you basically have to go out and buy a new one...

@dilligafmofoker

5 ай бұрын

They have a five year warranty.

For the rubber that goes around outside of the backflip, I had to silicone the ends that fit over the aluminum channel. Another problem is my tailgate would not open and there’s no way of opening the backflip without destroying the rubber seal that goes along the tailgate. Would I buy it again absolutely not.🤷‍♂️

Your rear water leakage into the bed may be through your tailgate step; which was an issue that I had. Rain etc was entering through the top of the tailgate/tailgate step into my bed. And then freezing where I couldn't open the tailgate. I also had a Bedrug installed.

@NSQGarage

5 жыл бұрын

I definitely feel you with the freezing issue. I kind of assumed it was just the nature of the beast when you have a good seal with freezing rain

Very good video bro, im looking into this product for my new Tundra, it looks pretty hardy, but don't like the cheap quality of the kickstands, and the scratchability of the top decklid, I guess you need to have a light touch with this product, if you want it to last?

@NSQGarage

9 ай бұрын

Yeah I would maybe just get the composite one if you were worried about the scratches

I know this is an older video, but in regards to it getting scratched easily, give it a good cleaning, tape everything off, and hit it with some rattle can bed liner. I did that to my scratched up bed cover (different brand) and it worked perfect.

@NSQGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I have definitely considered it. Luckily it hasn't really gotten any worse!

@projectauto7560

2 жыл бұрын

Or you could even vinyl wrap it. Could wrap the panels in white vinyl to match the truck.

I’ve had mine and every issue match mine.

I just bought this cover for my tundra

@trhenryvlogs9638

4 жыл бұрын

How you liking it so far?

Anyone else has advice? Deciding on mx4 versus revolver x4. I live in Louisiana... so no real winter... just want water resistance and durability

@susanwest1790

4 жыл бұрын

I'm in Louisiana, too. Did you pick one and if so, what are your thoughts on it?

Great review! If you had to buy another would it be that same one or another model or brand?

@NSQGarage

3 жыл бұрын

I think I am happy with the BAK but I would get a polymer one, not the aluminum. I think the g2 is polymer?

Hey thanks for a nice review. My mx4 rubber cushions (just installed) when opened fully only rest on rear window. Do you know if this has been an issue worth window breaking? Thanks

@NSQGarage

2 жыл бұрын

I haven't heard of that. I wonder if you can move the cushions so they rest in the sliding window frame instead.

Excellent review, very useful.

@NSQGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I know this video is 5 years old now, but I'm still going to throw my two cents in about the F1 cover he talks about towards the end of the video. Yes it has an amazing gloss finish and is fiberglass reinforced...but it's junk. It looks good at first but a year later it's dull and the surface actually cracks and splits. I've replaced 3 lids under warranty for this reason in a matter of 2 1/2 years. I went to warranty this last F1 Lid and they recommended the MX4 lid this time around instead. I just installed it this morning and to be honest...I don't have any faith that it will be any better. I guess time will tell. They say their F1 is their top of the line cover...it's garbage.

@NSQGarage

5 ай бұрын

Great perspective. Thanks for the input!

I've had my BakFlip MX4 about the same length of time and I've had the same issue with the paint finish wearing off that you report. One of the plastic clips broke (male portion) after having the cover about two months and BakFlip wouldn't honor the warranty. I've yet to find a clip anywhere that fits the female part correctly. I used blue loctite on those rods. They don't come loose anymore but those flimsy plastic cradles they rest in when not being used are junk. I fabricated two out of copper pipe clamps and dipped them in Plasti-Dip. No more issue. For the money they charge for these covers, they should offer better hardware, paint job and stand behind their product. All minor issues and the cover still performs fine but it could fantastic if just a little more care went into the manufacturing of these things.

@NSQGarage

4 жыл бұрын

Sound like we have had the same problems. At least they are consistent haha

Can u flip up all the way then remove the whole cover folded up? Does it jus unclip then u can remove and put in garage? Or no?

@NSQGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Yes. It is a little more challenging then just unclipping.there are some threaded knobs you will have to undue and then it should pop out if you want it off.

Try using a Spray Truck Bed Liner,to Enhance for Scratch Proof,yah Bak Flip.

How safe is cargo? It seems someone could use a wire hanger from the outside to pull cord.

@NSQGarage

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, it does seem easy to break into if you know what you are doing. I do think it is a more secure than most soft covers though

Thank you for the review. If you can go back, would you have bought a different cover?

@NSQGarage

4 жыл бұрын

Probably the fibermax or equivalent. If there was a way to open it without lowering the tailgate (and still being theft resistant) that would be nice. When I have my trailer hooked up, I often find myself having to slightly open the tailgate to get into the bed

@ferelcabron

4 жыл бұрын

@@NSQGarage I dint even thought about the trailer. Again, your response is much appreciated. Thank you

Had one on my '14 f150. Never was completely flat, had a hump I would say in the middle, always leaked and the top surface did not hold up. Also the top plack coating separated from the cover itself producing an air bubble almost. Very obnoxious since I spent $1k on that thing. Extremely dissatisfied with it

Are the panel skins on this tarp aluminum.. ? Has anyone looked at the extang covers with the Frp panel skins. And is the frp a better choice than the aluminum that can tent or scratch in this case.

@NSQGarage

3 жыл бұрын

They are indeed aluminum with some sort of coating. Unfortunately, I am not familiar with the extang covers.

Just wrap it gloss white to match your truck or black. Fix all the scratches plus itll look better

@NSQGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Good point. It is slightly textured. Do you think that would make it difficult to wrap?

@buffalobmf

5 жыл бұрын

Not sure. You might have to commit and sand it and smooth it down but idk. Could just buy a samply square and see

I'm from Georgia Just got this Tonneau cover

@NSQGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Hopefully it works out!

Do you find it gets heavier as it gets older and more water trapped in the panels? On my second one and the wife can't flip it open on her own anymore.

@NSQGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Oh wow. I have not had that experience. Sounds like you had some serious leaks!

A friend of mine has one. It looks great, but lots of water gets in. If keeping your stuff dry is a priority this is not the cover for you.

The profit margine must be huge!

@NSQGarage

4 жыл бұрын

I'm sure it is!

Hi...Nice review. Really appreciate it. Is the cover made of aluminium? is that why it scratches easily? thanks.

@NSQGarage

5 жыл бұрын

You are correct. It is made of 2 layers of aluminum with foam or something in between. Thats why I recommended the fiber max because it is a different finish. A little more glossy but not as thin

@jamescook7206

5 жыл бұрын

yea the covers are made of Alum.

@MichaelDJones-hb2gc

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the honest in depth review. I'm in the market for one and this definitely helps. I'll look into those other models you mentioned. Thanks again.

Ive owned mine since 2012 at this point it leaks everywhere. Customer service has given me the run around for replacement rubber seals.Im trying again today. Its is heavy takes 2 people to fold back .If the manufacture wont help me Ill buy a new version but not from bakflip.

@NSQGarage

4 жыл бұрын

When did the seals start to fail?

Does it rattle or make any noise when completely folded up? How about when down? How many inches of space does having this install block off even when Ford is completely up

@NSQGarage

Жыл бұрын

Great questions. I haven't noticed any rattling. The only thing would be those little support rods pop out of their cradles on really rough roads. I would say there is about 6 inches of lost bed space when it's folded up.

Thanks for the follow up review. to this date do you still have the cover? And how has it held up? Im thinking about ordering one soon and i just wanna know how long it will last

@NSQGarage

3 жыл бұрын

I do still have it. I don't think anything has changed since I did the 18 month review. Which is a good thing I guess. So going on 4 years or so and its holding up pretty well.

@masonscheidt9801

3 жыл бұрын

@@NSQGarage awesome, thanks for the reply!

Is this an older model of the MX4 or a different model? I was under the impression the MX4 has 4 bigger sections instead of 3 like the one on the video.

@NSQGarage

5 жыл бұрын

I do see some 4 panel ones in their website. I'm not sure of the difference. Mine is a short bed (5.5 ft). Maybe the longer bed (6.5 ft) have 4 panels instead of 3

@fightingillini94

5 жыл бұрын

I've got a 2018 GMC with a 5'8" bed I just ordered one of the MX4 for. I guess it might just be the difference in the trucks then.

@fightingillini94

5 жыл бұрын

Mine will have 4 panels also is what I'm getting at

@TheAlioop16

3 жыл бұрын

It depends on the length of the bed.

@cat5tracker581

Жыл бұрын

I have 4 panels on 5'7 bed.

Is the cover secure enough to leave firearms in the back or anything viable would you feel comfortable doing that

@NSQGarage

6 ай бұрын

I would say it depends on where you are. If you are planning on using this to protect your stuff in a sketchy area, I would not depend on it.

Great review. How does it do resting on the cab in the full vertical position? I'm not sure I like that feature

@NSQGarage

4 жыл бұрын

The biggest drawback is that you lose visability. The stabilizing rods keep it pretty secure. I think it may take up slightly less space horizontally than a roll up.

Thank you

Bought one for my Tundra, not pleased with it, does not have a latch on the second panel from rear, the prop rods don’t fit without completely removing the knobs, and it leaks. Payed over a grand for it. Don’t think I would do it again.

@NSQGarage

4 жыл бұрын

Wow sounds like they vary a lot from truck to truck. That's interesting

How’s it holding up after two years? I just ordered mine. Kind of nervous since I’ve seen some bad reviews. Wel see eventually.

@NSQGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Well at this point I've owned it for over 4 years. Still doing pretty good. Same little complaints as before but no major issues!

@peteross4879

3 жыл бұрын

@@NSQGarage that’s good to hear. I’ve seen certain videos where they’ve mentioned upgraded materials. Can’t wait to get it.

Did you noticed better mpg with the cover?

@NSQGarage

5 жыл бұрын

I've always had some sort of cover so I never really tested it

How do you get under it if your tailgate latch fails?

@NSQGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Probably just the old wire hanger technique. I have had some times where my tailgate has frozen shut

You may have responded to this already but, did you try contacting their customer support; the cover has a 5-year warranty.

@NSQGarage

3 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, I bought this in 2017. But yeah, I could have done that

@frankcampos1251

3 ай бұрын

@@NSQGarage oh, I see. Hey, thanks for responding! It is much appreciated it. I’m torn between this cover or the Revolver and, just when I have made up my mind on one, I happen to see a video where they have issues with it. 😏 🤷‍♂️ so here I wait…and wait… Maybe I should just pick one and go with it? 😁

Where did you get your smoked tail lights

@NSQGarage

3 жыл бұрын

The brand is called recon. You can get them from stage3 I believe

If you're that worried about scratching *a bed cover* then don't get a bed cover. You've got a spray in liner that could survive a thermonuclear blast, so why set items on your bed cover? It's a cover, not a shelf. Just my 2 cents. Truck and cover look great.

@Lucky4zo

5 жыл бұрын

Bobby spray the cover?

Other than the scratch issues how’s the finish holding up ? Any fading etc

@NSQGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe some slight discoloration of the rubber. You know how it can get that slightly gold tinge to it?

@georges4562

3 жыл бұрын

NotSoQuaker Thank you. I’ve been shopping these things out and it’s not easy lol

@NSQGarage

3 жыл бұрын

@@georges4562 I know! So many options!

Does it shakes,vibrates or makes noise when driving?

@NSQGarage

4 жыл бұрын

No, it is definitely on there pretty solid

thx for the review

At the end of the day would you recommend this

@NSQGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's pretty good. The back g2 might have a more resilient finish though

Just installed one on my truck and noticed I gained 7 miles a gallon on gas. Truck bed liner on top will eliminate it scratching.

@NSQGarage

Жыл бұрын

7? For real?!

@michaelflowers6048

Жыл бұрын

@@NSQGarage yes 7. On the trip to pick the bed cover up which is about an hour and a half away I was only getting 20.4 miles per gallon. I installed the bed cover and on the way back I was getting 27.6 miles a gallon. Driving back & forth to work I am getting just a little over six miles a gallon more than usual. This is all on the same tank of gas so I know for a fact it is a true reading and not a discrepancy between different types or ratios of fuel

@NSQGarage

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelflowers6048 wow that's crazy!

What brand / which bed cover is on the green truck in the early part of this video? It looks like it is even lower profile than the backflip especially near the side rails. Thanks!

@NSQGarage

4 жыл бұрын

He also had a Bakflip. I believe it was g2 or a fibermax. He moved so I can't go check haha

@KW-Aerials

4 жыл бұрын

@@NSQGarage Ah okay. Thanks for the quick reply!

Hello, do you think they can break it with a knife?

@NSQGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Through the panels themselves, no. I guess if they had a ton of time they could possibly cut though the folding points

How far does it lip over the tailgate?

@NSQGarage

Жыл бұрын

You have a little bit of adjustability when you install it. I would guess it could be anywhere from 1 to 2 inches depending on how you set it up

Who would have thought dragging metal across a painted surface would scratch it?🤯

@promaterial

4 жыл бұрын

LOL! My thoughts exactly.

@AmerikanMuscle

4 жыл бұрын

I thought they were made with a plastic material that was black all the way through.

Got a new bakflip mx4 for $725 for my 2020 f150 short bed, is it worth that in your opinion? Did not install it yet still in the box.

@NSQGarage

3 жыл бұрын

It sounds like you got a good deal on it. It's not a bad bed cover by any means. It's just not perfect. Mine is still holding up quite well. I think it's been about 4 years now

@ericanderson668

3 жыл бұрын

@@NSQGarage I bought one today, but am considering returning and going for the f1 after seeing your review and the scratching. How is it holding up, does it look like its all beat up or is it still decent looking? Also, are there any leaks on the seals? Thanks for your help on the review.

@NSQGarage

3 жыл бұрын

@@ericanderson668 it's still holding up well. It doesn't look too bad. It has a couple small "dents" and a couple small scratches. No real water issues. Some comes in near the gap in the tailgate, but I don't think a bed cover can really solve that

@ericanderson668

3 жыл бұрын

@@NSQGarage thanks for the reply! I'm trying to decide between the MX$ and F!, but I've heard the F! delaminates whereas the Mx4 Scratches, lolol. Decisions decisions!

@NSQGarage

3 жыл бұрын

@@ericanderson668 good luck!

Guess i you put those cases on top of ant flip tonneau cover or a painted one like I have on a GMC, scratches would be produced. Polymer tops can absorb water....be careful.