Bain Family Murders | Was David Bain Innocent?

This video answers the question: Can I analyze the case of the “Bain Family Murders?”
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  • @debbiec4530

    @debbiec4530

    3 жыл бұрын

    😂🤠I agree

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    3 жыл бұрын

    🤣💜

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    3 жыл бұрын

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  • @Autumn_Forest_

    @Autumn_Forest_

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bthomson Maybe you’re right. I initially thought that they had been arguing and got as far from each other as possible/giving each other the silent treatment.

  • @QueenOfTheNorth65
    @QueenOfTheNorth653 жыл бұрын

    “He couldn’t find a job. Mostly because of the murder part.” 😂😂😂

  • @krhoft

    @krhoft

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes! LOL! like expunging the record never occurred to anyone.

  • @anonymousstrangeness7348

    @anonymousstrangeness7348

    3 жыл бұрын

    It seems like every damn time you kill somebody, it follows you around for the rest of your life, as if you are some kind of a criminal.

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    3 жыл бұрын

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    @leonieromanes7265

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@anonymousstrangeness7348 I know, weird right? Especially when you kill your kid brother and sisters.

  • @anonymousstrangeness7348

    @anonymousstrangeness7348

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@leonieromanes7265 Yes, & then they add more charges for felony grave robbing, burning down orphanages, molesting farm animals, & stealing panties. This ends up looking bad on your job applications.

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    @scottishgirl6666

    3 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely! Same here. 👌🏻😊

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    @Faythe98

    3 жыл бұрын

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    @francesbernard2445

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same here and I cannot understand why. Maybe the contrast between all those true story tragedies and my now peaceful life while avoiding all drama when managing to be avoiding people with Personality Disorders? I want to gain more confidence in being able to spot people with them.

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    @annieva9143

    3 жыл бұрын

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    @bthomson

    3 жыл бұрын

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  • @munngoman7851
    @munngoman78513 жыл бұрын

    "David had trouble finding a job... mostly due to the murder part."

  • @TheAccidentalViking

    @TheAccidentalViking

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mostly because his formal secondary education was interrupted by his family being killed.

  • @munngoman7851

    @munngoman7851

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheAccidentalViking Reminds me of the old saw about the young man who's convicted of murdering his parents and pleads for leniency on account that he's an orphan.

  • @TheAccidentalViking

    @TheAccidentalViking

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@munngoman7851 but his conviction was overturned. So. Move on.

  • @Mehki227

    @Mehki227

    3 жыл бұрын

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  • @kristin_NZ

    @kristin_NZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheAccidentalViking David was into the TERtiary phase of his education. But he did poorly at Uni.

  • @evas99
    @evas992 жыл бұрын

    Kiwi here. The vast majority of the country would agree with you. I'm in Dunedin, I've actually never met anyone who believes in David's innocence.

  • @gloriaelmore9092
    @gloriaelmore90923 жыл бұрын

    I'm amazed he ran out of nearly 1,000,000 bucks! Loved the running cadaver joke; well delivered as always! Also. I appreciated your comments regarding the associative phrasing he used.

  • @johnnyutah6056

    @johnnyutah6056

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe not so hard in NZ, but yeahit is pretty funny!

  • @jlim003

    @jlim003

    3 жыл бұрын

    When you say ran out, you mean broke? I couldn't see anything on google. Just that he was paid out in 2016.

  • @camogrrl

    @camogrrl

    3 жыл бұрын

    Possibly borrowed legal fees took up some of the compensation

  • @chad3232132

    @chad3232132

    3 жыл бұрын

    I can only speak for the U.S. In this country, large wrongful conviction settlements are almost always disclosed publicly. This is good for transparency, but it also exposes people who are awarded a large sum of money to potential scams. In many instances, the person end up with a massive sum of money after being imprisoned for decades. The person has little to no concept of the value of money as they have not handled finances in so long. As such, they frequently fall victim to scammers or fraudulent investments. Not sayin this is the case here, but it is a thing.

  • @sarahgupton2552
    @sarahgupton25523 жыл бұрын

    People thought because a celebrity, someone they admired, like David was innocent, he must be. Sort of like when someone is rich, people think he’s a good businessman.

  • @deborahprosper751

    @deborahprosper751

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Sarah Gupton Spot on!

  • @Pinkcouture111

    @Pinkcouture111

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes 👍 just what I believe, he was a good businessman he made money out of David

  • @hamishcatto9097

    @hamishcatto9097

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nah not that many people here actually believe he was innocent

  • @BellaLeoLicorice

    @BellaLeoLicorice

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hamishcatto9097 He managed to convince the jury at the retrial. That retrial was a fiasco - some jurors went down to Dunedin during a weekend. one had Karam's book and asked him to sign it and as for the jury hugging David and going to the party afterwards... Totally inappropriate and they should have called a mistrial.

  • @BellaLeoLicorice

    @BellaLeoLicorice

    3 жыл бұрын

    Karam's biggest joke - Robin had no blood on his clothes because he changed them to meet his maker.

  • @formidablity
    @formidablity2 жыл бұрын

    I don’t usually comment, but I loved this video! I live in NZ and attended the second trial as a member of the public. I have a degree in Criminal Justice and after going through the case countless times believe that David is guilty. There appeared to be significant Police failure in this case which likely also resulted in his not guilty verdict.

  • @Nikitaxo24

    @Nikitaxo24

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same. He totally did it. Got a huge pay out for murdering his family. Don't know how he lives with himself.

  • @anna-rosephipps3132

    @anna-rosephipps3132

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't know how he lives with himself either. He can't be in a dissociative trance 24/7. There's no question this was a messed up family. I can identify with the confusion of this type of dysfunction.

  • @marniejohnston5106

    @marniejohnston5106

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow! That is absolutely fascinating that you experienced this personally. I too believe he is guilty. He seemed so obviously calculating.

  • @formidablity

    @formidablity

    Жыл бұрын

    @@foxinsocks7531 I totally agree! Even though I personally believe he is guilty in reality, there was reasonable doubt. If only Police hadn’t botched some of the investigation/evidence and the house wasn’t burnt down it may have been more clear either way.

  • @cheeseisdelicious111

    @cheeseisdelicious111

    Жыл бұрын

    He is 100% guilty. Incompetent policing ultimately set him free. Absolute disgrace.

  • @DogsChickensPeacock
    @DogsChickensPeacock3 жыл бұрын

    I knew the pathologist who did the autopsy on this family. There is no way Robin Bain could hold that rifle and shoot himself in the head

  • @laur131306
    @laur1313063 жыл бұрын

    I watched a deep dive into this case and was stunned when not only the conviction was overturned but they PAID him. Jurors are wild 😫🤣

  • @davidbain6898

    @davidbain6898

    10 ай бұрын

    id dive deep into your box with the coin they paid me and it would be wild

  • @Vu7c4n

    @Vu7c4n

    15 күн бұрын

    ​@@davidbain6898 Nice try.

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    9 күн бұрын

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  • @katdux4439
    @katdux44393 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for covering this. It's still up for debate here in NZ even though he was realased

  • @AtomSmash3r
    @AtomSmash3r3 жыл бұрын

    New Zealander here. Yes Bain is guilty as sin! I would be interested in Dr Grande’s opinion on another controversial NZ murder. The Scott Watson case.

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    2 жыл бұрын

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    2 жыл бұрын

    ...and the Crewes

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    Жыл бұрын

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    3 жыл бұрын

    lol. That's all funny! 😆

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    3 жыл бұрын

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  • @thebtchthathikes1008

    @thebtchthathikes1008

    3 жыл бұрын

    Uh that's NOT funny because he is losing his family. A lot of you 🧑‍🦰 are going to be seeing dirt clouds very soon.

  • @inahandbasket288

    @inahandbasket288

    3 жыл бұрын

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    2 жыл бұрын

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  • @mr0iz0
    @mr0iz03 жыл бұрын

    There’s a podcast by ‘Stuff’ here in NZ that covers this in detail. Looks up ‘Black Hands’. Lots of holes in the defense!

  • @jared8038

    @jared8038

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, it was brilliant. I'm convinced he's guilty after listening to that.

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    @katieaviss543

    3 жыл бұрын

    I loved that podcast. As a kid I seriously thought he was innocent after watching a documentary that recreated both theories. But later on after his release and especially after that podcast I definitely believe he was guilty.

  • @pepe6666

    @pepe6666

    3 жыл бұрын

    i find it interesting how someone can be considered 'half guilty'. by that i mean - if theres some evidence that makes him guilty, but some evidence which makes it looks like hes not guilty - then its not like hes only 50% guilty. its like - you only have 5 cakes out of 10 cakes in your locker. ok, you still stole cakes and go to jail.

  • @teney1351

    @teney1351

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh he's %100 guilty, my mate was in jail with him 😬

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    @jared8038

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@teney1351 tell us more....please.. 😅😊

  • @karobythell4425
    @karobythell44253 жыл бұрын

    This was a subject in my neck of the woods, NZ . So glad to see you covering this .

  • @jaredquinn2632
    @jaredquinn26323 жыл бұрын

    David did it.

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  • @wumbo8892
    @wumbo88923 жыл бұрын

    David Bain absolutely committed those murders. He had discussed sexually assaulting a young woman that he saw out running and mentioned to a friend that he could use his paper route as an alibi. This information was not presented to the jury, as it was not directly relevant to the case. There is speculation that the jurors in the second trial were outward supporters of Baine. He is still living in New Zealand. His wife is a teacher at a primary school in my home town.

  • @BellaLeoLicorice

    @BellaLeoLicorice

    3 жыл бұрын

    She isn't working there anymore.

  • @jared8038

    @jared8038

    3 жыл бұрын

    You are right, there is footage of one of the jurors in the 2nd trial hugging him afterwards and then walking over to the other supporters.

  • @nealkelly9757

    @nealkelly9757

    3 жыл бұрын

    What kind of woman would marry this person??

  • @BellaLeoLicorice

    @BellaLeoLicorice

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nealkelly9757 her mother was one of his supporters - convinced he was innocent. She took her daughter along to jail visits.

  • @BellaLeoLicorice

    @BellaLeoLicorice

    3 жыл бұрын

    She is at a school in Cambridge

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    @cantfindmykeys3 жыл бұрын

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  • @kiwikarm2005
    @kiwikarm20053 жыл бұрын

    How many Kiwis watching this channel?🇳🇿👏👏 Yah…he’s guilty and wasn’t he the Best man for another low-life? Thanks for presenting this one Dr Grande.

  • @blengi

    @blengi

    3 жыл бұрын

    David's prison mate and groomsman Paul Wilson was a murderer, who subsequently went on to murder for a second time after the wedding. Birds of a feather....

  • @kiwikarm2005

    @kiwikarm2005

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@blengi Cheers, that’s right. Couldn’t remember exactly how that went. Thanks for clarifying.

  • @blengi

    @blengi

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kiwikarm2005 No problemo, you brought up an interesting detail from David's post prison life, which tends to undermine perceptions of him character-wise, which people should be aware of.

  • @mh1066

    @mh1066

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@blengi Where do I find this info?

  • @kiwilassie

    @kiwilassie

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@blengi My son knows a guy who was a cellmate of Bain's in the latter years. In his words "He did it for sure!"

  • @dprcontracting6299
    @dprcontracting62992 жыл бұрын

    I love your sense of humour Todd. I was in Dunedin when this happened - it was huge news (we get very few murders like this in NZ). Robin's brother (ie David's uncle) was also in the Air Force with me. He was convinced that David was guilty and said all the family were (mind you, it was his brother vs his nephew). The house was burned down by the locals after the killings. Joe Karam (the said ex-rugby player crusader) received $424 000 from the Government Legal Services for his part in the campaign so he ended up pretty well compensated. People must understand that rugby is NZ's national religion so for such a celebrity to endorse someone is pretty powerful.

  • @niamh3610

    @niamh3610

    2 жыл бұрын

    The house was burned down by the police, not the locals. The locals were getting sick of all the people surrounding the house and requested the property get burnt down by the police to stop it.

  • @bingonamo7520

    @bingonamo7520

    Жыл бұрын

    @@niamh3610 Yes and it's quite common worldwide for houses with notorious murders to be burned down, as certainly no one wants to buy them. Also Joe Karam spent over 1 million dollars on this case, so the money he got back was less than half of what he spent.

  • @somejimmydude2121

    @somejimmydude2121

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bingonamo7520 The old Crewe house is still there. I drive passed it sometimes in my travels. I've also met a few of the Thomas's, not intentionally but just as a local (years ago)

  • @brandonproctor3639
    @brandonproctor36393 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Grande, I've been watching a lot of your videos lately and I'm loving your channel man! Keep up the great work!

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    @autumnedwards44483 жыл бұрын

    Dr Grande your content output is just amazing! A new video every day! Not to mention a pod cast too! Somebody get this man a medal!😍Thank you for your analysis doc!💖💖

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    @bthomson

    3 жыл бұрын

    🛡📈🏆🏅🤹🎖

  • @MsLaurenize
    @MsLaurenize3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for your effort and hard work you put it, Dr. Grande. I look forward to your videos. Greetings from Amsterdam, The Netherlands!

  • @sonnyday6830
    @sonnyday68303 жыл бұрын

    I have always known David was guilty, the police made too many mistakes.

  • @adelecovus7482

    @adelecovus7482

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's seems so obvious the son did it. Infuriating he got released and paid.

  • @BrickNewton

    @BrickNewton

    3 жыл бұрын

    The police didn't do a very good job at collecting evidence if I remember correctly

  • @camogrrl

    @camogrrl

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BrickNewton all the evidence that’s could prove one way or another beyond reasonable doubt was destroyed or went missing. They burned the house to the ground on day 10. Smh

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    @231lghtwrkerbrntout

    3 жыл бұрын

    Never trust a guy with bad jumpers

  • @calstonjew

    @calstonjew

    3 жыл бұрын

    Scot Watson is guilty too, trust me.

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    @Meggielulubelle3 жыл бұрын

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    @KiraaaL3 жыл бұрын

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  • @girlbythebeach
    @girlbythebeach3 жыл бұрын

    Finally! I've been hoping for your views on this one! Also, kudos on your pronunciations! Verra nice!

  • @Paige98
    @Paige983 жыл бұрын

    Congrats on 800k subs....so awesome! Love from New Zealand x

  • @lindseyhudson1274
    @lindseyhudson12743 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for explaining both sides of every case. I also like the dry humor inserted in these types of cases. It’s interesting to watch these because I’m not familiar with a lot of them so it’s easy to follow along and try to guess whether you think they did it or not.

  • @Vickygrayce
    @Vickygrayce3 жыл бұрын

    Woaaahhh as a kiwi I never thought I would see this case on your channel 😅 If you’re looking into cases from NZ I would love to see your analysis of Pauline Parker and Juliet Hulme. The movie ‘Heavenly Creatures’ is based on the true story of them murdering Pauline’s mother as teenagers

  • @merenutts

    @merenutts

    2 жыл бұрын

    It looks like this case has been covered a year ago...I'll be watching it next!

  • @maureeningleston1501
    @maureeningleston15013 жыл бұрын

    Yippee !! all is well in the world Dr Grande never lets us down.

  • @shamedawg8977

    @shamedawg8977

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well the Bain family is still dead. It's more like the world goes wrong and Grande explains how it went down.

  • @bthomson

    @bthomson

    3 жыл бұрын

    It somehow helps when hearing these sad and grim stories to hear them in a logical structure with reasonable analytics.

  • @amandafranklin1914
    @amandafranklin19143 жыл бұрын

    It's hard to think of anything more New Zealand than a rugby player coming to someone's rescue.

  • @pablodmdp

    @pablodmdp

    3 жыл бұрын

    A rugby player with a pet kiwi bird 🥝

  • @camogrrl

    @camogrrl

    3 жыл бұрын

    Joe wanted attention- no one remembered his scant few games in a barely mediocre rugby career in context of the many many greats who dominate NZ rugby history.

  • @TheAccidentalViking

    @TheAccidentalViking

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@camogrrl Joe was quietly living his life, running a few businesses. He sold a great deal to spend time trying to figure out what happened. I was working with Joe just before he left to do this.

  • @231lghtwrkerbrntout

    @231lghtwrkerbrntout

    3 жыл бұрын

    If he was wearing red band gumboots it would be classic

  • @dprcontracting6299

    @dprcontracting6299

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@camogrrl dead right Mel.

  • @UnconditionalSurrenderG
    @UnconditionalSurrenderG3 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Grande, it would be great if you could cover the story of Chris Chan and talk about their recent arrest.

  • @lovecraft999

    @lovecraft999

    3 жыл бұрын

    i second this! hope the good doctor cover chris chan too! chris chan trended on twitter in different parts of the world a few days ago

  • @msmongooseable
    @msmongooseable2 жыл бұрын

    This reminds me so strongly of the White House Farm Murders, right down to the obsessed amateurs getting involved with the likely murderer. Dr Grande, would you look at the case of Jeremy Bamber?

  • @tyreseforren6721

    @tyreseforren6721

    Жыл бұрын

    I was thinking the exact same thing

  • @cottontails9003
    @cottontails90033 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Dr Grande, for the content, your channel is the best. Thank you once again Dr Grande.

  • @rejaneoliveira5019
    @rejaneoliveira50193 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Grande, my heartiest congratulations on reaching 800 K subs!✨💞

  • @leximari
    @leximari3 жыл бұрын

    This family was very dysfunctional and it has always seemed as if they all hated Robin. I can’t help but feel bad about that. I do feel like David committed this murder.

  • @ritwikkhurana3124

    @ritwikkhurana3124

    3 жыл бұрын

    On a side note- you’re so damn cute 🥰 what’s your @ 😳

  • @sixthsenseamelia4695

    @sixthsenseamelia4695

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ritwikkhurana3124 Eeeew. Keep it in your pants.

  • @ritwikkhurana3124

    @ritwikkhurana3124

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sixthsenseamelia4695 how does opening my pants come in the equation here? 😅

  • @bthomson

    @bthomson

    3 жыл бұрын

    More flirting!!

  • @ritwikkhurana3124

    @ritwikkhurana3124

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bthomson people these days.. start eww-ing on just small human compliments. Weird.

  • @BenchReviews
    @BenchReviews3 жыл бұрын

    I like the continuity and structure of your videos Doc.

  • @alexandrawordsworth9639
    @alexandrawordsworth9639 Жыл бұрын

    There is a good podcast analysing the family and the lead up to these murders, as well as a New Zealand drama, I also read Karam's book. It appears that relationships in the family were odd; kids did all the housework due to mother's mental state and not all of the kids got on with her. David and his mother had a close relationship and he believed some of her weird religious ideas. David was trying to be the man of the house and get family members on board with the development for the property, as robin more absent with depression. It was also mentioned that David was controlling over his sister laniet. A friend of mine was David's science lab partner at university, and he mentioned he was odd. He said he failed his science paper and had a meltdown. The friend later saw him (6 months later) and noted he was stranger and didn't mention plans for the future, Bain discussed possibly doing music. A friend of my friends went to the Bain house and mentioned the family was odd and the house was a pig sty. From reading, doco, drama and friend I reckon he did not cope with stress. Living in an odd family not knowing what to do and being odd himself I think a switch flicked with the reveal at dinner from his sister. I reckon he did black out what he did, so thinks he did not do it. I think Davids's wife should be wary not to stress him and go down the religious path like his mother.

  • @mcd5478
    @mcd54783 жыл бұрын

    OMG! 799k subscribers! I’m patiently awaiting your 800k subscriber milestone video. Would love a Bella Grande update. 💖😇🙏🏼

  • @pepe6666
    @pepe66663 жыл бұрын

    this is new zealand's OJ simpson. the footage of him wearing that jersey outside dunedin jail was on the news so much that it became famous itself. people would go to Halloween dressed as david bain in the jersey. if you type 'david bain' into google the search suggestion says 'jersey'

  • @teney1351

    @teney1351

    3 жыл бұрын

    Straight up, we actually call them David bain jumpers now 😬 guilty of owning two myself haha

  • @lloydrobert6182
    @lloydrobert61823 жыл бұрын

    "Running cadavers"!!! Holy moly, there goes my peace of mind! Dr. Grande does it again!

  • @tonka9573
    @tonka95733 жыл бұрын

    In case you wanna watch an extended video on this, look up Matt Orchard - Crime and Society. All his videos are great.

  • @rejaneoliveira5019
    @rejaneoliveira50193 жыл бұрын

    Intelligent analysis as usual. Now moving over to your podcast, I have been waiting to watch the new upload the entire day! 😕 Btw, jurors not paying attention to the evidence and one of them sleeping?!🤔 I am sorry but I find that unacceptable at so many levels. Thank you for all that you do Dr. Grande.❤️

  • @theborderline3616

    @theborderline3616

    3 жыл бұрын

    A sleeping juror is cause for this 😬

  • @maureeningleston1501
    @maureeningleston15013 жыл бұрын

    When Dr Grande reaches 800k......he's treating us all to a bottle of champagne to celebrate !!.......IS THAT NOT RIGHT DR GRANDE. :))

  • @bthomson

    @bthomson

    3 жыл бұрын

    Might we not owe him the champagne?🍾🍾🍾

  • @maureeningleston1501

    @maureeningleston1501

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bthomsonLol ...we sure would.

  • @ouiouibien_1979

    @ouiouibien_1979

    3 жыл бұрын

    😂👍

  • @axeman2988
    @axeman29883 жыл бұрын

    Hay from Australia, great content mate keep it up I've learnt a lot about mental health since I've discovered your chanel 🙂😎

  • @lauriemueller2004
    @lauriemueller20043 жыл бұрын

    I was watching about serial killers at the same time I was working with u HG. Narc. Det I knew the answer before I got your tape. I laughed at myself. I was so devastated I ended in 3 Ers and 10 day stint on psych floor. First at 57 years old. My son, my sis, my brother. I will be the winner for life.

  • @Rubinmebs
    @Rubinmebs5 ай бұрын

    I followed this case closely and another interesting factor was, Robyn Bain had a full bladder when he died. Usually people that commit murder get a bit nervous and would probably go to the toilet prior. David Bain also put on quite an act when he was escorted into an ambulance that morning, however, his heart rate never increased. Also, David Bain was known to have had surgery and as he was coming out of the anaesthetic he was reported to have said did I say anything?… Did I say I did it? After compensation was paid and the case was closed. David Bain, and Jo Carrum went immediately to pick up the 22 rifle/murder weapon as all evidence was released by the crown. Why on earth would you want to souvenir the murder weapon? If you were just paid out. Nearly $1 million.???

  • @10AntsTapDancing
    @10AntsTapDancing3 жыл бұрын

    You are right about Joe Karam not understanding the case. He 'believed' David had been wrongly convicted and focused on the emotional idea of an innocent man in jail. Two things you missed were that Robin Bain had a full bladder at autopsy and unlikely he could have run around killing his family without peeing his pants and that David was a member of the local amateur acting group. His call to the police was unconvincing too. Finally it was a joke in NZ that he should have gone to prison for his fashion choices alone. Good summary Dr Grande, I thought he did it too and that family was very dysfunctional.

  • @mattd7571

    @mattd7571

    Жыл бұрын

    David apparently had a fit or seizure of some kind when the police arrived and we're going around the house, the medic on the scene at the time (ie with no knowledge of the circumstances or any preconceived ideas of his, or anyone else's innocence or guilt) noted that he thought David was faking it. Apparently it is hard to fake a seizure because your body parts all move in a completely random manner, whereas if you're faking it you will generally move your body parts back and forth in whatever direction. Along with everything else, when I heard that I was pretty convinced of his guilt. Innocent people don't fake seizures after their family has been murdered. As others have noted, the police botched the investigation which ultimately allowed him to wriggle free.

  • @Mr2pint
    @Mr2pint3 жыл бұрын

    I think most the second jury were part of the David Bain fan club, hence hugging him. A mass murderer walks free and collects a million dollars 🤯

  • @TheAccidentalViking

    @TheAccidentalViking

    3 жыл бұрын

    You think that's how jury selection works? Good luck with your legal career.

  • @katiehagan2066

    @katiehagan2066

    3 жыл бұрын

    Definitely not people from the jury have cove forward and said they believe he is guilty but it wasn't proven without reasonable doubt

  • @KingSlayer_.

    @KingSlayer_.

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@TheAccidentalVikingDavid Bains prosectutors weren't aware they were straight-up supporters of David during the jury selection, otherwise they would have chosen someone else.

  • @stevefrench2303
    @stevefrench23033 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations on your 800,000 Dr G👽

  • @BellaLeoLicorice
    @BellaLeoLicorice3 жыл бұрын

    His best man at the wedding was a fellow killer he met in prison. In 2019 he admitted he had raped and murdered another woman and is back in jail.

  • @teney1351

    @teney1351

    3 жыл бұрын

    Damnnnnnnn wtf 😬 If you were really innocent and a "good quiet guy" you wouldn't bond with a Rapist and murderder in my opinion.. But David had expressed his desires to rape a woman before he killed his entire family so yeah, makes sense 🤦‍♀️😪

  • @danieladeutsch1708
    @danieladeutsch17083 жыл бұрын

    Ujiii! Warm congratulations to 800k, dear doctor! You are amazing! Mazel Tov!

  • @PaganGrace
    @PaganGrace3 жыл бұрын

    Didn’t you release a podcast after midnight this morning and now a video this afternoon? Burning the candle at both ends yet still sharp as a tack. Very impressive!!

  • @dprcontracting6299
    @dprcontracting62992 жыл бұрын

    Todd, would you consider analyzing the Christchurch Civic Creche case that occurred in Christchurch, New Zealand in 1991 and 1992? This case was the subject of a book by Lynley Hood called 'A City Possessed: The Christchurch Civic Creche Case'. You might find it interesting as there was significant criticism of some members of your profession in the aftermath of this case. I lived in Christchurch at the time and I agree that many people - including the Police - temporarily lost their critical faculties. Hood compares what happened with the Slalem witch trial in 1878.

  • @sandralibeau4795
    @sandralibeau47952 жыл бұрын

    I was told by a Dunedin Educational Psychologist that Robin Bain was profoundly depressed so the Group Special Education section of the Ministry of Education were so worried they were keeping an eye on him. I also bumped into Laniet's boyfriend. If the jury had heard the disturbing things he said, I don't think he'd have been set free.

  • @natekeyes2297
    @natekeyes22973 жыл бұрын

    Regardless of the guilt or innocence of this particular person, what kind of justice system allows a person who was found guilty of murdering his whole family to be eligible for parole in 16 years? How can this be considered justice? Other countries have very lenient justice systems even for people who have committed terrible crimes. In Canada, Paul Bernardo has already been "eligible for parole" in 2008 and 2018, and had parole hearings. It is considered very unlikely that he will ever be released. But what kind of country grants even the possibility of parole to a rapist (he was identified as the "Scarborough Rapist" who had raped many women before he turned to murder), and someone who tortured, raped and murdered three girls?

  • @rogerpattube

    @rogerpattube

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's nothing. It used to be 14 years for murder in NZ. With good behaviour out in ten. Check out Rufus Junior Marsh. Given only SEVEN years for kicking to death an elderly man in 1974. Out in 1983 he immediately got two years for attempted rape. On release in 1985 six months' 'periodic detention' for aggravated robbery. Then in 1986 a mere ONE year's jail for another aggravated robbery. November 1986 murdered Justice Department clerk Diane Miller, 32, in her Mt Victoria home. Sentenced to 'life imprisonment', he became eligible for parole in 1997 i.e. after just over TEN years. Fortunately he was not released due to public pressure and he died in jail 2010.

  • @rubievasek4437
    @rubievasek44373 жыл бұрын

    Hi Dr Grande, I am a subscriber from Australia. Thank you so much for your content, I really enjoy it. I was wondering if you might consider doing a video on Bradley Murdoch, or Martin Bryant (or both)? Thanks again and congrats on 800 k subs :)

  • @cassandrasuzannelalonde4758
    @cassandrasuzannelalonde47583 жыл бұрын

    799 K Rock and Roll. I ve watched you since 450k, and I will watch...for a long time

  • @gypsy2268
    @gypsy22683 жыл бұрын

    You got it!!! I’m a New Zealander, This is still so upsetting! he’s out!! Not guilty doesn’t mean he is innocent. He is one troubled & Guilty Man. (In my opinion) Sorry just edited typo 😆

  • @niamh3610

    @niamh3610

    2 жыл бұрын

    He was on my flight to raro in 2013. After we landed I asked him if he did it and he gave me the most evil glare. Safe to say I felt nothing but bad vibes from that man, and that encounter I had with him confirmed he was guilty.

  • @gypsy2268

    @gypsy2268

    Жыл бұрын

    100% 👍

  • @Nairod2
    @Nairod23 жыл бұрын

    You need to make an analysis on the "Chris Chan" case Is sort of current relevance and it would be nice to have a professional perspective on it.

  • @oinkerbob2

    @oinkerbob2

    3 жыл бұрын

    At this point, he's likely researching now. Even with the abbreviated style of Dr. Grande's content, I bet he'll have to do a feature film length video.

  • @ReaperCH90

    @ReaperCH90

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am not sure I want Dr. Grande to spend >100h on Chris Chan to then come to the events of last week. It is enough that we know all about this trainwreck. But if Dr. Grande wants to sacrifice himself, I'd be super interested.

  • @gianfrancofini

    @gianfrancofini

    3 жыл бұрын

    Jesus Christ thats gonna be a weird one

  • @maxwillson

    @maxwillson

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yup

  • @UsurpersAndAssassins
    @UsurpersAndAssassins3 жыл бұрын

    I remember when this happened. It shocked the whole country. Personally, I think he's guilty as hell.

  • @Jo-xj2bb
    @Jo-xj2bb3 ай бұрын

    I remember this like it was yesterday....for a second I thought my elder brother had lost his mind as my Family home was on Sheil Hill, directly behind the Bain residence! Such a tragedy 😢

  • @F-rem
    @F-rem3 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations on reaching 800k subs!!

  • @christineross8569
    @christineross85692 жыл бұрын

    Glad to see so many of my fellow kiwi on here enjoying Dr Grande Dunedin is my hometown always seemed that everyone in NZ but the jury thought he was guilty

  • @rogerpattube

    @rogerpattube

    2 жыл бұрын

    And Joe Karam. 🙂

  • @alimar0604
    @alimar06043 жыл бұрын

    Dr Grande! You started in your pink shirt then suddenly switched to your checked shirt. You are a magician 🇬🇧

  • @denofcool
    @denofcool3 жыл бұрын

    I would love to see a video on Karl Pilkington, especially in his days early on with Ricky Gervais and his podcast

  • @sherris.2402
    @sherris.24023 жыл бұрын

    Speaking of the wealthy athlete involving himself and changing the outcome in a case that he really didn't understand. I think these types of things happen fairly frequently in our world. A lot of people try to influence what they don't understand.

  • @TheGrmany69

    @TheGrmany69

    3 жыл бұрын

    You are a step away from becoming a fascist.

  • @TheAccidentalViking

    @TheAccidentalViking

    3 жыл бұрын

    Joe wasn't that wealthy. Ruby players in NZ were barely paid and most had other jobs like lawyers or businessmen in Joe's day. They used to call him 'Joe the Clock' because he sold watches on the side as a day job. I worked with him for a short time in the '90s. He sold assets so he could find a way to defend David. The forensics evidence was messed up and mishandled and the police botched the case because of it. Their case was based on speculation because they found the family 'weird' and 'eccentric'.

  • @pepe6666

    @pepe6666

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheAccidentalViking those are interesting points - but they are not indicative of innocence. or guilt for that matter. but as grande says theres some enormous things that dont disappear - ya dont 'weigh them up against' other evidence.

  • @TheAccidentalViking

    @TheAccidentalViking

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@pepe6666 This case reminded me of how they jailed that woman in Australia for 'ritualistically' killing her baby when nothing of the sort happened. They convicted her because they thought she was 'weird' and she didn't react 'normally'.

  • @mh1066

    @mh1066

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheAccidentalViking Mind sharing her name?

  • @43658hgt
    @43658hgt3 жыл бұрын

    Some people think he shot Robin , but Robin shot the others . He shot Robin in rage and grief ( diminished responsibility) after seeing what Robin did to the others . But idk.

  • @xbtusd7501

    @xbtusd7501

    2 жыл бұрын

    nailed it

  • @markethrubesova
    @markethrubesova3 жыл бұрын

    Well, these videos are simply immaculate.

  • @eltonbaloyi7991
    @eltonbaloyi79913 жыл бұрын

    I can tell Dr Grande has knowledge about guns or perhaps a gun enthusiast😊

  • @Fedorevsky

    @Fedorevsky

    3 жыл бұрын

    I heard he shoots wild roaming cacti in his garden

  • @LDiamondz

    @LDiamondz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Fedorevsky Yeah, the ones who escape from his shelf!

  • @bthomson

    @bthomson

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ouch! I almost cried at the "time out" for the little cactus! You guys are making me want to be overly protective! Consider me standing in front saying "Over my dead body!" A bit too over the top?

  • @rebeccavitsmun
    @rebeccavitsmun3 жыл бұрын

    How many shirts do you have? Excited to see you hit 800K!

  • @BrickNewton
    @BrickNewton3 жыл бұрын

    Hello from New Zealand I was a teenager when this happened and remember it vividly. So many unanswered questions, but still feel like David did it. Also google David Bain Jerseys. Hes got some stunners in his wardrobe.

  • @valleygirl2530
    @valleygirl25302 жыл бұрын

    Dr. G. You could make a 30 min. video on a case like this and I’d pay attention - I might sneak a look at the cacti which I habitually ignore.

  • @deebaptista9907
    @deebaptista99073 жыл бұрын

    Every video during Dr. Grande's introduction, I am taking inventory of all the cacti. 🙂

  • @bthomson

    @bthomson

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you're like me you can actually feel yourself take stock of the whole background and the wardrobe choice before you tune into the very interesting case! We are HOOKED!

  • @theresar4617
    @theresar46173 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations on hitting 800 thousand of us!

  • @lnc-to4ku
    @lnc-to4ku3 жыл бұрын

    Even while hearing such a horrific case, Dr. Grande made me laugh, "....the walking cadaver" comment. 😄😂 I also agree with your final analysis towards this case!

  • @Jaksi-a
    @Jaksi-a3 жыл бұрын

    Congrats on the 800k doc.

  • @frankie1012
    @frankie10123 жыл бұрын

    Would love an analysis of the BJ and Erica Sifrit thrill kill murders! Love your channel!❤️

  • @HeidiHWang
    @HeidiHWang3 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Grande, i enjoy your show. Can you analyze the famous Dr Death ? I saw the documentary but there is no WHY this men botched that many patients.

  • @maryellengodfrey
    @maryellengodfrey3 жыл бұрын

    Wow that’s my favorite shirt on you so far. I had to mention it , it looks that good !

  • @SarahDunlap
    @SarahDunlap3 жыл бұрын

    Dr Grande, can you review the effects on the Capitol Police officers who responded to Jan 6th and now four who have committed suicide?

  • @blengi
    @blengi3 жыл бұрын

    A nice clean objective summary/analysis, and nailed from my point of view the most reasonable conclusion that David was the perpetrator. It's a shame many New Zealanders and media don't have your clarity to see through David and Joe Karam's essentially smoke and mirrors defense strategies - Cheers

  • @teney1351

    @teney1351

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bold of you to assume.. I'd say about %90 of us know that he did it hence why he had to leave the country but it's not like the majority of us had the choice in the outcome of the second trial 😕

  • @katiehagan2066

    @katiehagan2066

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@teney1351 yes I would agree with that even alot if the jury believed he did it but they couldn't say it was beyond any reasonable doubt as it's very hard to imagine someone murdering their family without anyone giving a motive

  • @kristin_NZ

    @kristin_NZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@teney1351 well he lives outside Cambridge NZ now. stay at home Dad.

  • @lisas8244

    @lisas8244

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kristin_NZ It amazes me that there is always a woman out there willing to put aside all reason, logic and facts to marry a cold blooded murderer and have his children. What happens when he tires of her and being a stay at home dad?

  • @AnimalsMatterMorally
    @AnimalsMatterMorally3 жыл бұрын

    Oh my God, HOW HOW HOW did David Bain actually get acquitted for murdering his whole family???? 😲😲😲

  • @kristin_NZ

    @kristin_NZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    because the public of NZ were browbeaten and scammed into re-trying him. first trail, guilty as charged.

  • @Autumn_Forest_
    @Autumn_Forest_3 жыл бұрын

    What in the actual hell? How was that jury so moronic? And I thought the OJ jury was stupid.

  • @donalynette
    @donalynette3 жыл бұрын

    Really grateful to listen to your rational thinking, & analysis. I look forward to the day, we can remove the death penalty, & make jail safer & cleaner for those suffering confusion of right & wrong. Really we are our brothers & neighbors keeper. Caring about others deeply, can actually save lives.

  • @teney1351

    @teney1351

    3 жыл бұрын

    What country are you talking about..

  • @Pinkcouture111
    @Pinkcouture1113 жыл бұрын

    Omg thank you thank you, I have be wanting to see what you think of David. I believe he is guilty after years of following this case. There is so much evidence against David. David had called for the family meeting that night. David had talked to a friend about something bad going to happen a few days before and fantasised of singing at family funerals, he believed he was a gifted singer

  • @DeNieuweBeelding
    @DeNieuweBeelding5 ай бұрын

    "Was David Bain Innocent?" Short answer: no Long answer: nooooooooooo

  • @ohnoohyeah3205
    @ohnoohyeah32053 жыл бұрын

    There are two individuals on screen, with bricks in the background, in this video. One of them has an awesome sweater. Much love, Doc.

  • @rejecteddriftwood314
    @rejecteddriftwood3143 жыл бұрын

    Could you make a video on the "Christian Longo/family murders?" I'd love to hear your thoughts.

  • @jamiehoover9348
    @jamiehoover93483 жыл бұрын

    800k doc , congrats !!!!!!!!😎✌🏻🔥🥂🍾yesss!!

  • @finchyfrost9167
    @finchyfrost91673 жыл бұрын

    Can you imagine Dr certified Grande at a party. What would the feeling be like?

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