possibly one of the best comments about jazz and giant steps at the end of the track

This shit needs to be longer!! the part where the drums and bells kick in!!! I love you guys

the most beautiful, most elegant thing ive heard all week

@JechtRye Glasper is the man and so is the Experiment....they are the most gifted and dopest guys. their concert was the best i seen in a looong time! :-)))

@aynism Definitely. I saw his trio last year and have the Experiment coming up in November. Chris Dave is an insane drummer. The whole show I was torn at who to watch, him or Robert.

Yes, extended version please.

The actual song is about 3 mins long. 'Winter Nights' by Twigg & Stone.

@000e5b2o514

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@ShonenMaster33

2 ай бұрын

So... what is this song? A cover? A remix? A plaggio? I'm confused

tyler in this!

yeah seriously!

wish this was longer

fuck this feels good in my ears

Alright maybe you have heard Giant Steps too many times, but it DOES NOT sound like crap!

I agree with the general sentiment at the end that contemporary Jazz has a tendency of repeating the past.... But I disagree that Giant Steps is crap and I also disagree that it is wrong to revisit past standards.... Contemporary readings of past standards is what reinvents the music and keeps it fresh... Archie Shepp's reading of Naima = case in point - /watch?v=7lprPFuftIY

extended ver pls

@JechtRye Lnow what you mean, they are all insane. Yes we also have him coming to A'dam in November doing a double concert with the Duke! Ticket in de da pocket of course.

nothing better than walking home drunken, in the dark (:

but giant steps is dope :(

@ryantakach1478

3 жыл бұрын

It is but if you go to jazz school where all people care about is playing it at 350 bpm in 17/8 rather than creating art then I’m sure it gets tiring

im going to listen to giant steps right meow

Does anybody actually listen to (Robert) Glasper already? If you're in here listening to this and you don't, you should. He's a great jazz pianist, and similarly implicated in Hip Hop. He's worked with people like Mos Def, J Dilla, and Talib Kweli, but in his own music the culture is clearly present.

I really enjoy some jazz (including these artists here), but some of it I find quite repetitive and "samey". I probably feel that way because I don't understand the intricacies of it as well as other types of music. My question is, what necessarily makes jazz good or bad by a more historical or "objective" standard? What makes Coltrane considered so much greater than 99.9 percent of jazz artists, even though to me theres a lot of jazz that sounds like him? Do people rate jazz largely as the players technical ability? And from these guys viewpoint as musicians, what is their complaint about Giant Steps?

@ClassicBentobox

8 жыл бұрын

+cKunke2 Some of it's technical skill, some of it is simply historically "breaking the mold" as it were, on what's considered good music. Often it comes down to the content your making. If you can do the 12 bar blues, well hey, congratulations, you can do jazz. But the point of jazz is to be an ever changing format, to push the envelope and create the most varied music, while still keeping it pleasant to listen to (most of the time). So the problem *is* that so many people are doing similar sounding things, it's not adding to the legacy in any way. Which is why these guys have a problem with Giant Steps. It's a very well made song, and as jazz musicians they've probably practiced it. They've probably seen other people practice it. They've probably heard it a million times at this point. Keep in mind he never said he hated the song he said "it's fucking boring". Which implies he has simply grown tired of that song and wants people to make new content instead of always replaying old stuff.

@kramnewton8683

7 жыл бұрын

you have to understand that in the time that Coltrane was coming up, no one else really sounded like him and he was very unique... but yes today there are many people who have a similar style as him.

@dennismcinally4437

4 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/aGaoq9ifgJynYto.html watch this

GIVE ME MORE OF THAT SHIT!

my opinion on Giant Steps is that Coltrane DID have a great piece of music there. but the thing is, so many players will do those covers just to show, "Oh, look how many notes I can play. or look how fast I can play!" I hate that junk. but like Music is supposed to be what you make of it. you don't have to play stuff just like the original. you need to change the idea to do something new. that's how music evolves. Coltrane and BBNG are both amazing musicians

I extended/remixed this song at soundcloud(dot)com/thecakeisalie-3/badbadnotgood-outro-glasper

@aynism Ohh, nice. Enjoy it!

tyler.

You guys are missing the entire point of his rant.....

@omx9211

5 жыл бұрын

what was the point?

@zorth42

5 жыл бұрын

omx he's talking about jazz culture and people playing standards doing nothing to progress the art, Coltrane is a good example of "on paper" jazz and his fame has been inflated by the academic branch of jazz. Giant steps had it's place but jazz is a lot more than the hard bop of miles and Coltrane, and imo, that is the point of his rant

@ryantakach1478

3 жыл бұрын

@@zorth42 Coltrane wouldn’t be rehashing giant steps and playing it in weird time signatures he would be creating new art and pushing boundaries

@zorth42

3 жыл бұрын

@@ryantakach1478 his discography is a testament to that

Fuck Giant Steps? During his time John Coltrane was one of the greatest innovators for jazz, and he still is. He helped move the music forward and he did something EXTREMELY productive. If jazz musicians want to honor the great legends of jazz and the tunes that are known as "standards" by doing their own version, that's up to them. Along with those "covers" modern jazz musicians are creating tons of new and original compositions; is this something you haven't noticed?? Sounds like it!

@maxsergeant9934

7 жыл бұрын

Joe Sorcic just because someone is a game changer or someone who pushes the music in a different direction doesn't mean that the song is automatically good. Now, Personally I like Giant Steps a lot and coltrane as well. But Alex shouldn't have to like the song or respect it just because it was a game changer, that's bullshit

@matheusgraf7951

5 жыл бұрын

I think what he means is jazz as a music genre. As we are still playing Coltrane 50 years later, jazz will never be something into the new generations. What BBNG are trying to say is 'let's do new music' and this is very nice. I think for having a new sound and evolve a musical genre, you have to have a kind of atittude that 'destroys' what comes before you. That was exactly what Coltrane did.

what song is this??

and yall did a dilla tribute? lol

i'm not sure "or abridging the freedom of speech" applies to trashing giant steps

Hey i wrote a little verse with this beat. its on my page under 'Most of Me' tell me wacha think

@thrashmetalkills i'm with you here (even if i dig what he's talkin bout: all those wankers who are butchering this classic without even tryin to learn to play the blues) and about sounding like crap, who wants to hear more than once covers of beats that use old jazz samples? not me at least...i love SV's Fall In Love even more than Gap Mangione's Diana In The Autumn Wind but i don't give a fuck about someone covering it on a record :/

Talking shit about Giant Steps? AH HELL NAH

Tyler the Creator

this song is way too fresh, its ruined by the bullshit at the end no matter what hes saying. i love the track but i dont want to hear talking after haha

@Lucas-dy5mt

4 жыл бұрын

It his song, he can put whatever he wants

Everyone took the bait, eh ? XD