Bad Used Boats to Buy

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There are tons of great boats out there. Sometimes there are the boats that you should avoid...always! There are definitely some very bad used boats to buy out there. With a limited supply of boats on the market, these problem boats are often the last ones left. Want to know which boats are money traps and hard to resell later? In this video we will cover:
0:00 Intro
1:12 Boats with really low hours
2:12 Boats that have sunk
3:04 Boats with structural issues
4:35 Power options that you want to avoid
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  • @boatinglessons
    @boatinglessons3 жыл бұрын

    Are there any other boats you have had issues with and think our viewers should avoid?

  • @taniatait1791

    @taniatait1791

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yamaha outdrives should be avoided for the same reasons as omc and you should probably read” Bowriders Death of a safe boat design”before buying a bow rider so you know their significant safety issues and are still happy to proceed.

  • @TMcD3

    @TMcD3

    3 жыл бұрын

    All boat designs have limitations. It’s up to the purchaser or owner to figure that out. It’s called responsible boating and boat ownership.

  • @MasonboyMasiel

    @MasonboyMasiel

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TMcD3 really is that what it’s called? I thought it would be called something completely different like, “monkey donkey racing is bad” or “eat lots of greens to stay healthy.” But thanks for that...

  • @dwreed63

    @dwreed63

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MasonboyMasiel, good one!! 👍🤣🤣

  • @rabbithazen1

    @rabbithazen1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dude get some intro music or something. That dead silence is horrible.

  • @mikeaguiar1393
    @mikeaguiar13933 жыл бұрын

    After over fifty years in the boat business as a factory trained technician I think this video is full of great advice. Definitely good information.

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    3 жыл бұрын

    Such a nice compliment Mike, thank you!

  • @yrisgonzales1225

    @yrisgonzales1225

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great👍

  • @Adaire8672

    @Adaire8672

    8 ай бұрын

    Is this boat accessories worth the cost?? kzread.infop7q8K-yCGXQ?si=Rn_F776f0wQJgDUL

  • @billybobbob3003

    @billybobbob3003

    15 күн бұрын

    @@boatinglessons poor advice 1# stay away from fiberglass boats, aluminum runabouts or nothing.

  • @moonpiespotlight4759
    @moonpiespotlight4759 Жыл бұрын

    Avoid boats with motors, or with decks or transoms. Avoid boats with keels and with a starboard and port side. These can become expensive over time and result in more friends than you thought you had, and lots of beer cans left in your cooler.

  • @philipatoz

    @philipatoz

    6 ай бұрын

    OK, I'll turn around now!

  • @Chris-hx3om
    @Chris-hx3om Жыл бұрын

    I'm a marine mechanic of over 40 years. This is one of the best guides I've ever seen. Completely agree with everything he said. I have people looking for boats come to me, and they are mostly concerned about the engine. I tell them 'engine's are repairable/replaceable, hulls aren't'.... If you have a good hull, most other things are secondary. If you have a bad hull, toss it and start again....

  • @diverdave4056

    @diverdave4056

    Жыл бұрын

    ...mmm and a boat engine is very very EXPENSIVE $$$

  • @chrisostling805
    @chrisostling805 Жыл бұрын

    I am a former Yacht Broker that sold all types of boats, always get a survey and a mechanical inspection before buying! I was just honest with my clients, and I was very good at matching boats to people's needs. I had several repeat clients and sold several boats more than once. The best part was going out with my clients on my days off to teach them how to operate their new toy.

  • @Chanikenskywalkr

    @Chanikenskywalkr

    2 ай бұрын

    How do I get a career like this? This sounds like a dream!

  • @purpskurp8737
    @purpskurp87373 жыл бұрын

    SO glad there is a channel on youtube giving good advice to boaters.

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    3 жыл бұрын

    Such a kind thing to say, thank you!!

  • @BellavistaPEI
    @BellavistaPEI3 жыл бұрын

    All great information to have! Very informative for someone new to boating!!

  • @DougsterCanada1
    @DougsterCanada12 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. Makes lots of sense! Thanks for posting this.

  • @poppys3728
    @poppys37282 жыл бұрын

    Should probably also avoid boats that sank and then caught on fire.

  • @XB10001

    @XB10001

    2 жыл бұрын

    Or caught fire and they were sunk to put it out.

  • @michaelking42
    @michaelking422 жыл бұрын

    Great video, thank you. Reading the comments I am grateful you are spending time answering questions.

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    2 жыл бұрын

    We appreciate your kind words Michael!

  • @CanadianCharby
    @CanadianCharby2 жыл бұрын

    I find your videos are honest and informative as I just purchased my first boat this past summer and look forward to your new releases. As I’m in the Thousand Islands, I may drop by your dealership some day.

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    2 жыл бұрын

    We would love that! Thank you for the kind words…gives us fuel to keep going :) Would you have any content suggestions?

  • @torcan1990
    @torcan1990Ай бұрын

    Totally agree with the OMC Cobra engine. I had one and it was a nightmare. Thank you for bringing that up.

  • @Spirited_Driver
    @Spirited_Driver Жыл бұрын

    Nice Clip, I like the note about low hours! People are so blind to that fact that super low hours might NOT always be "turn key!!

  • @FabioPrato
    @FabioPratoАй бұрын

    Nicely delivered, I have watched a few of your videos. Well done is being clear and direct.

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    Ай бұрын

    We appreciate your kind words, thank you! 😊

  • @zachrich7359
    @zachrich7359 Жыл бұрын

    Good advice with this, I have been looking at acquiring a 1986 Bayliner Trophy 2159* and this has given me some things to look out for when I got see it. Thank you!

  • @TidePrideMan
    @TidePrideMan2 жыл бұрын

    I bought a 1995 Cruisers 25' with a GM 454 engine 3 years ago with 429 hours on it, it was stored in a warehouse in Wisconsin and it's been the best boat I've ever owned.

  • @Chris-hx3om

    @Chris-hx3om

    Жыл бұрын

    And?

  • @scottmerryfield330
    @scottmerryfield3303 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video, very honest and insightful

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Scott! I appreciate that :)

  • @emmanuelmeyermeyer1083
    @emmanuelmeyermeyer10832 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this video. Very well done and helpful. 👍

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you could find some value Emmanuel!

  • @jstep100
    @jstep10011 ай бұрын

    Good stuff! Thanks for the info!

  • @schmarrenheimer80
    @schmarrenheimer8011 ай бұрын

    Today I learned something about buying used boats. Thank you Len.

  • @zandemen
    @zandemen Жыл бұрын

    Some very good advice, I bought an OMC stringer and had to pull wrenches and search for used parts constantly. Sold it for a profit, lol.

  • @davemc162
    @davemc162 Жыл бұрын

    Exceptionally good guidance. Thank you! 🇱🇷

  • @claudehopper9813
    @claudehopper98132 жыл бұрын

    I bought a used boat from an airline pilot the maintenance had always been done promptly & properly . It was an older boat and been used regularly . Everything worked and the boat gave us years of problem free fun . Point being : It good to know who previously owned the boat and the type of boater .

  • @fuelflownormal

    @fuelflownormal

    Жыл бұрын

    Must have been a good union guy. Scab would have sold you a rust bucket.

  • @claudehopper9813

    @claudehopper9813

    Жыл бұрын

    @@fuelflownormal We were very knowledgable sailors & boat owners . We would have recognized a scab , we knew what we were buying . My advise was solid and only meant to be helpful to novis boaters .

  • @fuelflownormal

    @fuelflownormal

    Жыл бұрын

    @@claudehopper9813 Your videos are superb. Don’t think anybody would have snuck anything by you. 🇺🇸🇨🇦

  • @Roger-gm9tl

    @Roger-gm9tl

    5 ай бұрын

    Forgot one of the most useful tips "NEVER" buy a boat from the Miami area especially if they go routinely through the Haulover Canal, those boats have to be falling apart all over the place, seen & unseen from all that macho pounding !

  • @beauknowz
    @beauknowz2 жыл бұрын

    Having grown up in the Midwest, WI, IL, MN, and seasonal boating for over 50 years, we have found ski boats, Nautique, Master Craft, & Malibu have been the most reliable and safest for inland lake boating. Outboards on aluminum hulls for fishing, light recreational boating, or outboards on long term boat manufactures of fiberglass boats.

  • @billyhill2488
    @billyhill24882 жыл бұрын

    Ahh the infamous low hour garage queen. Looks like it just rolled off the showroom floor too. And chances are high that it's had sour gas run through it more than not. I've helped a buddy of mine work the kinks out of one of those and it was not fun. I've made my fair share of mistakes too and finally bought something I could afford brand new to maintain my way from the beginning. She's been my darling for 6 years now and never sits more than a week between uses even in winter.

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good for you Billy! I like that title “Garage Queen” - gold! 🤣

  • @sethlouden2529
    @sethlouden25292 жыл бұрын

    Glad u talked those motors there all nightmares to work on

  • @aqualibrium3776
    @aqualibrium37762 жыл бұрын

    You have given a good info on boat buying. Donno what to say after watching your whole video. I just bought a 2000 model seadoo challenger2000. Its a 2stroke engine as you know. Its my first family boat as of now, after selling my Yamaha XL700 jetski couple of years back. What are your thoughts on my purchase? What are the things that I should be careful about the boat going on further. Looking forward to hear your advice

  • @Funbgs2
    @Funbgs2 Жыл бұрын

    As a boat mechanic with 13 years of experience. Everything in this video is correct. I will add to the Volvo OSI package. They incredible when they first came out. Only issue you really will have with these drive and transom package is the bellows start to fail in half the life span of a normal bellows. And the transom will crack very easily. Parts are very much still available. And the internals of the volvo drive are exactly the same as the other drives.

  • @joehunter3jh
    @joehunter3jh Жыл бұрын

    Dude is just flowing with energy

  • @petemontoya159
    @petemontoya159 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, great info.

  • @ElismyJudge
    @ElismyJudge10 ай бұрын

    That was a very informative video, thanks for posting. The advice on what to watch out for or avoid all together was gold.

  • @ben2177
    @ben217724 күн бұрын

    Very helpful thanks

  • @MyTube4Utoo
    @MyTube4Utoo2 жыл бұрын

    Great information. Thank you.

  • @SigTacOps19
    @SigTacOps192 жыл бұрын

    Bought a 22 year old Baja 272, been great so far. I did do a very thorough check on everything I could.

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear all is well! Is it a single or twins?

  • @SigTacOps19

    @SigTacOps19

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@boatinglessons single MPI 502 mercruiser.

  • @TracksideSam
    @TracksideSam2 жыл бұрын

    Wow! I never knew! Thanks for the advice and video!

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    2 жыл бұрын

    Our pleasure!

  • @cw6722
    @cw6722 Жыл бұрын

    Great content. Thank you

  • @owena9855
    @owena98553 жыл бұрын

    Great info! I personally love the omc outboards due to ease of maintenance and availability of complete parts motors for Pennies on the dollar. Definetely not for first time buyer though. To add to your video I would say if going for older boat try to find aluminum hull as they are much more robust long term. Also I would stay away from older bass boats as most have been run hard and put away wet. I would also stay away from early efi 2 strokes as they seem to be more problematic than older carb engines. I would do a compression test on all 2 strokes. Last of all smaller and newer boats will usually be cheaper to maintain

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    3 жыл бұрын

    All valid points, thank you for sharing your knowledge Owen!

  • @marcharris4176

    @marcharris4176

    3 жыл бұрын

    Compression test isn't enough. Bore scope all cylinders. A scored cylinder can still show good compression

  • @xtr3m3fLx

    @xtr3m3fLx

    Жыл бұрын

    @@marcharris4176 This!

  • @michaelomode630

    @michaelomode630

    10 ай бұрын

    hold on...he is saying to avoid anything OMC and You say its your preference. The more I know the more I confuse.

  • @triasc8469
    @triasc8469 Жыл бұрын

    I bought a 1987 boat that needed everything done…new floor, new upholstery, new lights, new paint, engine overhaul, trailer completely redone…when all said and done I have a new boat done how I like it and was worth the time and money to fix….awesome project and now I love my boat…would do it again…as long as you can do your own work…OMC Cobra engine…can find parts and not difficult…worst case swap out the engine…still way cheaper than a new boat

  • @n-da-bunka2650
    @n-da-bunka2650 Жыл бұрын

    I bought a "boat that sat" for about 50% of retail. It had a small issue with it's fuel tank where older fuel had congealed. Had to pull and replace the tank but that was only about a $3K cost at the time. It had a lot of "chaulk" on the fiberglass that was easy enough to buff out. Sold it after 5 years for the same price I had bought it for. It only had 20 hours and was 4 years old when I bought it. It had 145 hours when I sold it

  • @MitchJohnson0110

    @MitchJohnson0110

    5 ай бұрын

    key word is that it was only 4 years old . I'm pretty sure he's talking about a 15 year old boat with only like 20 hours. thats a red flag

  • @barry8458
    @barry8458 Жыл бұрын

    Good basic advice…price point and ability to repair issues is the key …

  • @johnrayson6212
    @johnrayson6212 Жыл бұрын

    was watching auction in Australia to repower my good working 75 Mariner 1986 with a more modern 75 Force thanks for the heads up

  • @Specialized1993
    @Specialized1993 Жыл бұрын

    Great advice regarding structure, Allot of these boats are 20 years old and get people in trouble...

  • @oneeverest7332
    @oneeverest7332 Жыл бұрын

    I was a mechanic for a rental fleet, we had 40 boats with Volvo penta. A single boat could get up to 500 plus hours in one summer. We used to complain about replacing the starter or alternator on these VP. Every three to four years the company would replace them. Then our company was brought out. New boats came in with mercruisers. We ended up removing every boat after one hundred hours not only for engine change but outboard ended up having water in the oil and burnt oil. The VP could go 500 hours and still have good looking outdrive oil. Then started having drive coupler problems, their solution was a heavier duty drive coupler. I stated it was the engine rocking off it mount and missing aligning it. Also the water pump would start losing some vanes. By that time I ended up leaving to work on helicopters. I would never buy a mercruiser ever.

  • @michalp2362

    @michalp2362

    Жыл бұрын

    Shit. I’m about to pull the trigger on a bow rider with the 4.3 mercruiser with really low hours. Should I walk away?

  • @specialestness

    @specialestness

    Жыл бұрын

    @@michalp2362get what you want. Make sure it runs well obviously but no matter the boat you buy it’s going to need money at some point. Boat does stand for break out another thousand.

  • @fritglassware9165
    @fritglassware9165 Жыл бұрын

    I knew....I just knew in my heart my exact boat would be in this video 😅. OMC stringer Drive owner here. I love my boat. but please for your own sake. listen to this man.

  • @tedschmitt178
    @tedschmitt1782 жыл бұрын

    A boat that sits will also likely have rotted floors because the owner left it stored outside with no cover.

  • @alexaderreyes5945
    @alexaderreyes59453 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting thank you for sharing

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    2 жыл бұрын

    Our pleasure Alexader

  • @TheGarywilliams
    @TheGarywilliams2 жыл бұрын

    I have scrapped so many stringer drive boats over the years I couldn't count . That big rubber boot on the back always made me think it's something a kid would have thought of . I did enjoy scrapping them though , Engines almost always ran or were salvageable ,drives you could not give away . Disassembly was a breeze too. Hook the motor and lift ! Stringers were always just soft enough that bolts pulled right out !

  • @Chris-hx3om

    @Chris-hx3om

    Жыл бұрын

    The difference between an OMC engineer and a 5 year old kid? The kid knows he can't design a propulsion system.

  • @EnergyMonsterCrack

    @EnergyMonsterCrack

    Ай бұрын

    @@Chris-hx3om😂

  • @froglobster
    @froglobster2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for these tips already a sub!

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad to have you on board :)

  • @bbqworld2103
    @bbqworld2103 Жыл бұрын

    Great video thanks

  • @markbarry9945
    @markbarry99453 жыл бұрын

    Great video! For some reason, this made me think of my two favorite boat names: "Runaground Sue" and "Unsinkable II"

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol 😂

  • @triasc8469

    @triasc8469

    Жыл бұрын

    And….because of videos like this I was able to buy a 1987 Chris craft with a 350 v8 GM engine for peanuts…neee work but the engine runs well…nothing wrong with the omc cobras if they were well maintained…they’re strong engines

  • @freightshaker82
    @freightshaker822 жыл бұрын

    I agree on the force engine I have a 1997 90hp on my baymaster and it’s hard finding someone to work on it.

  • @nicksperry9936

    @nicksperry9936

    2 жыл бұрын

    Get rid of the Force and have a Mercury on it instead.

  • @zepplinfan9000
    @zepplinfan9000 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve got a 1997 quantum with a 120 mercury force on the back, and at first I was super paranoid and saved up to repower... heck it’s been the most reliable motor I’ve owned so far! Better than my evanrude and Suzuki

  • @Malonesify
    @Malonesify2 жыл бұрын

    looking to purchase a 1994 Four Winns Horizon 190 hp, 5.0 OMC engine, your video mentions staying away from OMC engines but a friend who owns a marina told me there is plenty of aftermarket parts for OMC, not sure what to do?

  • @yoster77
    @yoster773 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Don't forget about that horrid Bayliner L drive!

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh my, I have to admit I’d never seen one of those! Looks like a Force engine and a custom drive - almost pod like. Thanks for the tip!!!

  • @propertymanager75
    @propertymanager752 жыл бұрын

    I just took my 71 laveycraft out and the high-pressure oil lines exploded stuck in the middle of the lake and a big mess to clean.

  • @joselara6423
    @joselara6423 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks good info

  • @stevemicahel8733
    @stevemicahel8733 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much I think that you just may have save me a $65K mistake. I put in an offer on a 34 foot 2007 vintage Express Cruiser. it looked to be very well cared for but I thought that I would check out some videos that may be helpful in the process especially things to have the surveyor and mechanic focus on. In asking the broker it turns out the boat has the notorious Volvo XDP out drives. I ran for the hills. You're a life saver.

  • @Chris-hx3om

    @Chris-hx3om

    Жыл бұрын

    That's the first time I've ever heard of the XDP drive. They didn't make it to Australia, and now I can see why.

  • @quailshootr6389
    @quailshootr63899 ай бұрын

    I own a 2000 Bayliner Trophy 18' with a Mercury 125 2 stroke o/b, runs like a champ.

  • @richardroldan7783
    @richardroldan7783 Жыл бұрын

    I'm new to boating..I live on the oregon coast, so we have rivers for salmon, bays for crabs, ocean for multiple fish and crab..I need to know if a 19ft not would work and what aluminum boats are best. Center console outboard preferred..

  • @jamesstuart3346
    @jamesstuart3346 Жыл бұрын

    Well done! I would add be careful of older sailboats with engines by Petter, Vire, Lehman, Westerbeke and such, as parts and service will be scarce

  • @stevewindisch7400
    @stevewindisch74002 жыл бұрын

    Some old-guy advice. For those with a young family who want maximum safety... Get a sailboat (and take a course). There are over 20 times more accidents with powerboats than sail (not even counting jet ski's). Adjusted per capita, there being many more powerboats, that is still a 6-7 times higher chance of an accident. Nearly all Coast Guard or State alcohol arrests are with power boaters. Heavy drinking is usually not part of the sailing culture. One reason sailboats are so much safer is the hull form, they ride choppy waves much better, even when under power. But you can still get into trouble in a sailboat... that's why you need to take a course. For a family of 4, it's best to get a sailboat 20 foot or longer with a deep shaft outboard, preferably 4 cycle for best safety and reliability. Inboard Diesels are nice (more expensive), but rarely found on boats shorter than about 26 ft. If you like taking out guests (more than 4 people total), look for a minimum of 25 foot. Sailboats have one major issue: Depth of the keel. You need to either get one with a centerboard (also called Swing Keel or Daggerboard that lifts up into the boat), or insure that you can navigate and dock with a draft of 4', 5' or more water depth. The "Draft" is a common spec that should be given by the seller, or look up the model online. There are many sailboats that can be trailered, I used to take my 26' MacGregor down to Florida from Ohio and sail the Bimini's or Keys on vacations. That one had water ballast, so it was not very heavy on a trailer (about 2,500 lbs., hauled it with a 6 cylinder car). Boats with lead ballast are considerably heavier and usually need a truck to pull the trailer. Being on the water is always great, and sailing can be thrilling. It will give the kids memories they will keep forever. I used to spend about $20 on fuel for the entire season on Lake Erie, the engine only being used in busy channels and docking (don't try to sail in busy rivers or channels, having the right-of-way doesn't matter when the other guy is ignorant or drunk). And always make the kids wear the vests. They will get over it. :)

  • @michaelking42

    @michaelking42

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love it, what an awesome comment, thank you Steve.

  • @AngelSanchez-du8ze

    @AngelSanchez-du8ze

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why quote all the stats regarding alcohol related accidents and arrests if your going to undermine those comments later in your posts? Cut you cake one way please…

  • @marklarson303

    @marklarson303

    2 жыл бұрын

    LAKE Barkely, ky .. loaded with drunk boaters. Stay away

  • @jdawg3712

    @jdawg3712

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Steve, written from a true Sail boater!🤗 Sailing is thee' best way to navigate our oceans. Anchors away!😎

  • @nocturnalme3549

    @nocturnalme3549

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey Steve, thanks for that info .so being a seasoned sailor, what type of boat would you recommend to take off shore let's say island hopping? Are sailboats still a safer bet? What length would be adequate? Or are smaller power yachts a decent option? I have been looking at some older model searay Sundancers around 30'. But the fuel tanks and cost to shuttle around is getting up there nowadays so I'm not sure if that's a smart option..any advice on longer offshore boating is helpful, thanks

  • @gsh341
    @gsh3412 жыл бұрын

    If you're planning on buying an older boat, it's best to just assume that there is damage to the floor and transom that will require repair. This isn't always a bad thing if you have the skills and time to make those repairs. But if you don't want that aggravation or to put that sort of effort into the boat, it's best to avoid older boats altogether. Many newer boats have completely eliminated wood in the construction process and have gone to either synthetic materials or all aluminum. This greatly reduces the chance for water damage, but it doesn't automatically mean everything is going to be good as delamination and corrosion is still possible.

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    2 жыл бұрын

    💯 true! Great comments.

  • @uhohotdog3483
    @uhohotdog3483Ай бұрын

    Excellent Thank You

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    Ай бұрын

    Our pleasure!

  • @jeffreypinder9398
    @jeffreypinder9398 Жыл бұрын

    OMC Stringer and Cobra drives are a nightmare. I worked part time on the Cobras and Force outboards. I owned a Stringer drive (given for free) for a very short time, never again.

  • @fordtechchris
    @fordtechchris2 жыл бұрын

    I bought the worst power plant, the old OMC stringer and it had rotten stringers, transom and egging mounts. But I rebuilt it and we're in it less than 5k. Been running it for 6 years, no further issues.

  • @lorismith9102

    @lorismith9102

    2 жыл бұрын

    Owner May Cry- I had one too and did cry

  • @fordtechchris

    @fordtechchris

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lorismith9102 ha ha, I've never heard that, good one

  • @dwreed63
    @dwreed633 жыл бұрын

    This video just kicked me right in the teeth. I'm 95% done restoring a Four Winns Fling.... OMC TURBOJET... I sure wish I had seen this video a year ago!!! Oh well, I guess I'll keep my fingers crossed for the next few years lol🤕 Very good video, great information

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    2 жыл бұрын

    Luckily with the market the way it is today, you might be able to flip it. If not, enjoy your hard work and have fun out there. I hope it all goes well!!

  • @TMcD3
    @TMcD33 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for another great video Sean!

  • @treyperry9722
    @treyperry97223 жыл бұрын

    Also keep in mind maintenance can go up with prestige just like cars. That 15 yr old Malibu or mastercraft for 40k was a 6 figure boat brand new. Parts for it are gonna be pricier

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, as parts availability decreases, the price will rise

  • @jedpratte
    @jedpratte6 ай бұрын

    My dad had a 93 crownline 182 BR with the 4.3 and alpha 1. He kept it so crazy nice and maintained. Sold it few years back with 400 sometbing hours on it. New owners still using it and love it. So there is older deals to be had when ya find the boats who had owners who really cared.

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    6 ай бұрын

    That is 100% true. So many great boats that have been loved over the years!

  • @overbuiltautomotive1299
    @overbuiltautomotive12992 жыл бұрын

    good advice the video for folk that do not know of mechanical things all that is well and fine until that great boat you bought gets older and you need to do or have things done so to me understanding things is a must be it a house or boat study what you bought learn it were you know something about how it works

  • @j.thomas7128
    @j.thomas71286 ай бұрын

    So that 2023 Eliminator Daytona with 8hrs on twin Merc 860's and #6 drives sitting on the showroom floor is probably something to avoid... Good thing I saw this. Who knows how much fun we could've had. LoL. Just playing with ya... It's great that you are bringing boating education to a large audience.

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    6 ай бұрын

    You had me there for a second ;) Our pleasure!

  • @j.thomas7128

    @j.thomas7128

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@boatinglessonsThe boats got a little angry. They all felt jilted and singled out... The Eliminator twin was very upset by the low hours comment. The 1978 Biesemeyer 460 BIGBLOCK jet boat got downright angry with the two-stroke comment. Luckily, we've settled them down. We got a can of liquid LEAD for Biesey and told him that he didn't sound like a weedwhacker, so he's good now. I'm not sure what to tell the STV with the high compression 2.5 Merc drag motor though. THAT ONE... that milled headed high compression pain in the backside wants new rings every 20 hours. The nerve of that thing. Sheesh!

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    6 ай бұрын

    @@j.thomas7128 Thanks for the good chuckle! 🤣

  • @marctreglown2503
    @marctreglown25033 жыл бұрын

    Wow my 21 year old jet boat with low hours needed a little maintenance, but my son did the work on my 350 Chevy inboard. Did I mention it is a custom boat made for the first owner. The boat is worth way more than I have into it. Your points are very good. I think I got lucky huh?

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like it Marc!

  • @REDMAN298
    @REDMAN298 Жыл бұрын

    thnx learned a lot here

  • @umunet
    @umunet2 жыл бұрын

    Just purchased a celebrity 199 any suggestions on what I should check? We are new to boating

  • @J_M3444
    @J_M34443 жыл бұрын

    I own a 1978 sea ray srv 200 with an omc stringer 800. That last segment hits hard. I’ve rebuilt this outdrive 3 times in the 7 years I’ve had this boat 😬😬

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ouch 🤕

  • @EDLaw-wo5it
    @EDLaw-wo5it2 жыл бұрын

    Great info, even for those of us that are old boaters. Havagudun Len.

  • @RS-cd9cf
    @RS-cd9cf3 жыл бұрын

    Was just looking into a 2000 Yamaha jet boat and was willing to replace one of the motors knowing it was a project boat but after watching this video I will just look for a newer model and stay away from any two strokes !

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think that will save you hassles in the long run

  • @ervingricnik2470

    @ervingricnik2470

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@boatinglessons I'd never buy a project boat. Especially as a first boat owner. I wanna enjoy it not work on it. But it's hard for a new boat owner to decide which boat is suitable. Any ideas which boats are great chioce for the first owners?

  • @SeanHorsfall

    @SeanHorsfall

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ervingricnik2470 that depends on where you are going to use it, what you want to use it for, how many people will be on board, and your budget

  • @davekana8388
    @davekana83882 жыл бұрын

    Years ago we had a Larson small 🚤 boat with a Force outboard that blew the stern drive while trying to get me out of the water on a tube. For the rest of the vacation we said, “you Force it and she will blow!”😝

  • @mantea1
    @mantea115 күн бұрын

    Great video with good information. A tip though, double check in the mirror after you shave to make sure there are no spots left :)

  • @grimakastatik
    @grimakastatik Жыл бұрын

    I just rebuilt a used boat like that. Looks and runs brand new.

  • @mannyruiz9011
    @mannyruiz90112 жыл бұрын

    I bought a Glastron Bowrider 2004 with a penta volvo engine 4 cylinder, and 223 hours, so far so good boat looks and drives good.

  • @briansadler5502

    @briansadler5502

    2 жыл бұрын

    Penta & Glastron probably the best combo ever made !

  • @mannyruiz9011

    @mannyruiz9011

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@briansadler5502 so far so good🙏🙏

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    2 жыл бұрын

    We love it when everything goes well!!

  • @jml7916
    @jml79162 жыл бұрын

    I buy OMC Cobras on purpose but I know them and how to get the shift issues adjusted and adjust the ESA and how to swap them out for an Alpha 1 or rebuild them. I also save thousands on the boat over comparable Merc drives, usually enough to swap the leg if needed (doing it myself). A great option if you are willing to learn and wrench on the boat yourself. Parts aren't that hard to find and they can be great and reliable drives if cared for properly. OMC stringers should be free or they should pay you to tow it away. The only option is a complete re-engine or convert to outboard. Don't buy an underpowered boat. To much power may cost a bit more in fuel but underpowered will drive you mad and make life difficult. I had a 23' cruiser with a 4.3 190hp merc and it was a dog, slow and difficult to plane with 3 adults on board. The same boat with the slightly larger 5.0 and 260hp was a joy and easy to drive due to the extra low end torque. Much quitter too from the lower gear ratio in the leg.

  • @techman1239

    @techman1239

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have to agree. OMC Cobra's work great when they are adjusted correctly. My boat has two, driven by 5.7's.

  • @Chris-hx3om

    @Chris-hx3om

    Жыл бұрын

    "I had a 23' cruiser with a 4.3 190hp merc and it was a dog," I've put that same engine in the same size boat (23 foot Caribbean Crusader), and the owner was over the moon. It replaced a 5 litre, and was an honest 6 knots quicker with the V6. I suspect the main reason people accuse various engine/boat combinations of being 'dogs' is more about the engine not being propped correctly then being under-powered.

  • @jml7916

    @jml7916

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Chris-hx3om The Crusader is not the same as a Bayliner 2355 Ciera. I was under propped by at least an inch, if not 2 just to improve acceleration and switched to a 4 bladed prop. I was easily able to hit engine redline on plane at about 3/4 throttle. I didn’t care about top speed one bit. 25 mph was my goal. There are many version of the 4.3, I had the anemic 2 barrel carb version that gasped for air.

  • @Chris-hx3om

    @Chris-hx3om

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jml7916 "The Crusader is not the same as a Bayliner 2355 Ciera." Quite right, the Crusader is much heavier. But I do agree that the 2 barrel variant is a bit breathless. Swap out a 4 barrel onto it and you have a completely different beast.

  • @jml7916

    @jml7916

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Chris-hx3om I sold it when I moved away from the west coast. I’m now on smaller lakes and bought an OMC powered 5.0 Bayliner 19 with a cuddy. It was a steal and a great boat for life with the kids. Pulls toys no problem, on board potty, big enough for longer days for 4, much easier to trailer and launch. I also have a ‘76 19’ that came free with a trailer I bought that I am converting into a fishing boat. It has an old Chevy straight 6 and on old Merc leg. Lotsa fun there.

  • @DirtNassty
    @DirtNassty2 жыл бұрын

    What a great video!!! Thanks alot for the great info!

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    2 жыл бұрын

    My pleasure!

  • @john.johnb_online1438
    @john.johnb_online143811 ай бұрын

    Thank you

  • @gerrymulholland4817
    @gerrymulholland48173 жыл бұрын

    Great overall advise, you should add Mariner outboards the list (the grey colored ones with orange stripping) .. almost as bad as Force / US Marine / Chrysler ..

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    2 жыл бұрын

    Gerry, they are for the most part just branded Mercurys. Should be the same parts and reliability as they are (with a few minor exceptions)

  • @crank1422
    @crank142222 күн бұрын

    Don’t be afraid of high hour ski boats. I’ve taken well maintained 5.7 liter and 4.3 liter motors out to 2000 hours before considering repowering. If they have maintenance records, a 900 hour engine could literally be mid life. Like he said, a low hour engine worries me more than high hours.

  • @figirovac81
    @figirovac8112 күн бұрын

    Do you have an opinion about using a bass boat for saltwater?

  • @darrylmcleman6456
    @darrylmcleman64563 жыл бұрын

    My neighbour gave me an 18 1/2 ft hardtop fiberglass boat on trailer because I was newly retired and wanting something to do.With the help of "how to fiberglass" KZread vids I put in new transom, stringers and floor.I installed 2 gently used motors and new trailer axel and wheels.I still need to paint but am able to fish as is. That boat had sat as yard art for 12 yrs. Sanding fiberglass not fun but do-able.

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    2 жыл бұрын

    All of it is possible, just a ton of time and energy! Way to go for working through it :) I hope it works great and know you will Fort a lot of satisfaction when you get it out on the water :)

  • @acemannw
    @acemannw Жыл бұрын

    When I bought a used boat a few years ago I looked at 14 boats before I found one that I wanted to buy.

  • @mustang8619
    @mustang86192 жыл бұрын

    Volvo Penta XS is the same as OMC Cobra. Volvo bought the rights from OMC and parts are available for the cobras

  • @dagnabbitt1158
    @dagnabbitt11582 жыл бұрын

    This reminds me of the old saying: one of the happiest days of my life was when I got my boat, the other happiest day was when I sold my boat.

  • @Shawn-dg8ow

    @Shawn-dg8ow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Soooooo true. I apparently didn’t learn that from the first boat I purchased, but sure in the heck did with my second. B.O.A.T= Bring On Another Thousand.

  • @dpcercone

    @dpcercone

    9 ай бұрын

    That is what all non-boaters say.

  • @waltertx.6020
    @waltertx.60203 жыл бұрын

    People with small children should think hard about a bass type boat. I learned the hard way. Great videos 👍

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very true! Thank you for pointing that out and sharing your experience.

  • @EdwardT9

    @EdwardT9

    2 жыл бұрын

    Can you explain? Are they dangerous, or do the kids always want to go fishing?

  • @DaDaDo661

    @DaDaDo661

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@EdwardT9I'm curious as well. Maybe it's the lack of good seating or shade/cover?

  • @n40tom
    @n40tom3 ай бұрын

    To me the main problem that comes with buying a boat that has sunk is water intrusion . Even if you changed everything all your electronics and powertrain engine Etc you may still have water in your stringers floor etc and no way for the moisture to get out or dry out , just rot out .

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    3 ай бұрын

    It is a real concern, you are right

  • @shanechostetler9997
    @shanechostetler9997 Жыл бұрын

    In the Fall of ‘22, the price of fuel has sure dampened the demand for boats now!

  • @Random-rt5ec
    @Random-rt5ec2 жыл бұрын

    The best boat I ever enjoyed was my closest friend's boat. I bought the beer & paid for all the gas, even helped him launch & take it out at the start & end of summer.

  • @famousbowl9926

    @famousbowl9926

    2 жыл бұрын

    I mean yeah don't be a freeloader lol

  • @waveman8923

    @waveman8923

    2 жыл бұрын

    You wanna ride then ya gotta supply the necessary stuff gas!

  • @kojack635

    @kojack635

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cheapest way to do it while so not freeloading

  • @waveman8923

    @waveman8923

    2 жыл бұрын

    Your a good friend.

  • @fredbresnahan4376

    @fredbresnahan4376

    2 жыл бұрын

    i always bring food all kinds of drinks, ice, tunes and offer to wash down the boat, most wont let u pay for gas and dont trust people to wash down there baby, i'm the same with mine but amazing how some people dont do anything..and unless they look good in a bikini are not invited back.

  • @gonefishin1234
    @gonefishin12343 жыл бұрын

    When you ask people to like and subscribe you should refer to the notification bell as the "ship's bell" lol

  • @boatinglessons

    @boatinglessons

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good idea John-Allan, thanks!!

  • @jimsmith4610

    @jimsmith4610

    2 жыл бұрын

    Aye aye captain, steady as she sinks

  • @scharftalicous
    @scharftalicous2 жыл бұрын

    If a boat has low hours the other danger is that the boat doesn't properly fit it's purpose. Depending on the make of boat an example might be structurally fine but have no where to cast a rod or keep your drinks cool respectively.

  • @BrawndoQC

    @BrawndoQC

    Жыл бұрын

    I sold my Robalo R200 because I didn't use it enough, but it was very well cared for with only 40 hours. There are exceptions, I had a guy take care of it every week.

  • @autoshotty
    @autoshotty2 жыл бұрын

    Glad the Mercruiser 470 series was not mentioned. most marine techs will tell you to avoid them. Yes, they have a few quirky items which should be monitored. Once understood they are a gem of a large 3.7 liter 4 cylinder I/O powerplant.

  • @Chris-hx3om

    @Chris-hx3om

    Жыл бұрын

    Great idea, but very poorly implemented. An outboard style charging system, in the bilge? What WERE they thinking? 🤦‍♂

  • @autoshotty

    @autoshotty

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Chris-hx3om With $500 for a failed voltage regulator most changeover to a standard charging system.

  • @Chris-hx3om

    @Chris-hx3om

    Жыл бұрын

    @@autoshotty I know, I've done quite a few of the conversions...

  • @xtr3m3fLx
    @xtr3m3fLx Жыл бұрын

    I call BS on the OMC cobra drives. Lots of parts availability, and easy to work on.

  • @tubsworld-authorgerneldarr3106
    @tubsworld-authorgerneldarr31062 жыл бұрын

    Good Video 2022🏆Thanks 👑

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