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Sigh, Remix was not meant to be so serious. Now they want to make sure it is sweaty. Sigh

@detroitarrow794

Ай бұрын

It was always going to be sweaty, you know there are players who were always going to min/max the crap out of a temporary event, I'm just in it to get new toons to 70 and get transmog and mounts.

@plummet3860

Ай бұрын

Now they want the opposite they dont want the sweatlords to come in and zoom through the content so the average joe has time to actually play now aswell

@scottmosier3183

Ай бұрын

Its only about player retention, they dont want you finishing in a week because then you aren't logging in and well that doesn't look good to shareholders. If finishing faster made them more money you would be able to beat remix in 1 day.

@Polisht

Ай бұрын

@@scottmosier3183 Never even thought about the shareholders lol. Now they shall be known as sweatholders 🤣. Sweaty is why i quit wow. There is very little reward for the sweat besides cosmetics which are useless.

@aaronwylie6928

Ай бұрын

I'm just happy levelling alts super quick by queueing tank/heals

Remix is a temporary game mode. People should be allowed to break it and farm as much as they want. Why police it so hard.

@shesh_o

Ай бұрын

Because stalling guarantees them you are going to play the game for the 90 days it lasts, and not just 2 or 3 weeks.

@w0llib

Ай бұрын

So that people sink in more time. Like with everything in wow. So they keep subbing. It's such an easy answer.

@w0llib

Ай бұрын

​@@shesh_ohonestly, I do dailies on my mop chars and I have one of them that upgrades gear... I'll be done with it in 2 weeks. With all of it.

@CarlosSpicyweiner-iv8mq

Ай бұрын

it really doesnt matter what they put out. people will cry anyways.

@GoddessPallasAthena

Ай бұрын

They don't seem to understand that people have lives. Also, a lot of people still play in Dragonflight (they enjoy pushing keys and such). Or maybe they play Classic. Or maybe they want to try out Beta. They are VERY BAD at respecting people's time. I agree - MoP Remix is pretty much a bubble. People aren't going to take the gear and run the Awakened Raids or M+. People were having a BLAST while leveling, only to feel underpowered once they hit 70. That NEVER should have happened. At the very least, they should have felt AS strong or stronger once getting to 70 in maybe all except Heroic Raids, which would have required SOME upgrades, but not the stupid amount people need. THAT or have a separate currency for upgrades vs. the fun cosmetics. Maybe have people earn the gear doing NORMAL raids?? I'm not quite 70 yet but I've been having fun. Hearing some friends say that hitting 70 felt like a downgrade and that you'll actually need upgrades to FEEL like you've been feeling while leveling is discouraging. They need to make FUN content and be confident that people will play it simply because it's enjoyable. They always throw in grinding content (people may NOT want a crap ton of new toons) instead of saying "HEY, here's something fun for ya - you can get non-essential fun stuff. Go at it! Hope you enjoy!!" I"d heard similar kind of thing about Torghast, where it was supposedly super-fun to play in beta, and then when it hit live, it didn't have even close to the same feel since Blizzard changed it. It's like they have great ideas and then make sure it's not as fun as it could be.

That's crappy. I mainly plan on getting bronze for mounts and toys.

@ZS-bg7jo

Ай бұрын

Same... it is weird to do the gear grind here when retail is right there with all the silly tedium and overly complicated ... whatever. I took a 6 month break and came back to an inventory full of gibberish item descriptions.

@williamcolgin1987

Ай бұрын

Leveling alts is the best way to go for that.

@HH-hd7nd

Ай бұрын

It's actually not that much of a problem as it seems. I have been a proposer of reducing the costs for upgrades so far, but as I play the game I noticed that I'll be easily able to do both upgrade my gear and buy all cosmetics, mounts and pets I want. I didn't farm anything, just doing the daily quests and a few LFRs and I'll be done with upgrading my gear in about a week, two weeks at maximum if I decide to take a bit of a break. Which leaves me with more than 2 months to farm Bronze for the collectibles.

@kungjocke9446

Ай бұрын

Yepp, the gear grind is way too harsh for a limited time "fun" event. I only do it for the mounts really.

@-.-Monster

Ай бұрын

@@HH-hd7nd i feel like the main concern or gripe with the gear upgrade costs is that you'll likely only be able to max one. MAYBE 2 characters gear before the event ends unless you were an uber frogger day 1 i get that it was advertised as an "alt leveling" event.. but did they really want us to hit 70 and log off for 2+ months because outside of the 40k free bronze it's.. not worth going on anyone but your main focus. Ofc everyone has a dif play style. But that's how i see the complaints.

What they should do is this: Make it so the cloak XP at max level becomes a bonus bronze multiplier of some kind. Give it some use, that way all the xp bonuses don't feel worthless, higher levels get the advantage of farming bronze faster. They also should buff trinkets jewerly to scale up with ilvl

@hughjazz4936

Ай бұрын

That's a surprisingly good idea!

Blizzard be like: We won't reduce upgrade costs because it will hurt people who already upgraded gear. Also Blizzard: Adds/increase rewards for achievements and doesn't give them out retrospectively which actively punishes players who played the game honestly... I'm glad I'm almost done with the event before Blzizard fucks things up even more. I genuinly don't understand how it is possible that they are so incompetent at their job.

@nonye0

Ай бұрын

but previous even all had cost reduced right? them and their retarded logic. just look at plunderstorm was also reduced near the end.

@luckyduck3985

Ай бұрын

We won't reduce costs because we don't want the people who already paid it to feel bad. Also: we're nefing the way bronze is earned because the people who already maxxed out their gear did it too easily. Are they aware they are disagreeing with themselves?

@stoiancostel41

Ай бұрын

yeah i also stopped playing for a while. got a year sub but i have been so disappointed with it. moved on to rlcraft lol gotta relax for a while as this game feels more like a job now.

@morfigasoulslayer

Ай бұрын

They've been incompetent since wod came out. Legion was fun and all but even there people were having to much fun so they decided to change a lot of things. For the selling point of being op in mop I feel like a trash can this is with 90k threads farmed each is not a lot but it's an amount that a good part of the people will only have at the end of the event

@stoiancostel41

Ай бұрын

i myself came back in january cause i saw the account wide everything that tww claims it will have but this event kinda sealed the deal for me. they changed the account wide cloak from the ptr from what i have heard, as it was really account wide back then. this makes me think that they will fuck the account wide stuff up aswell in order to not make it fun. its a game man, its supposed to be fun, not a job ffs. i now remember why wow was pretty much the only live service game i played seriously, i hate this whole engagement metric thing for player retention.

There really needs to be some sort of upgrade reduction for alts..fresh level 70 feel awful to play.

Glad I only play remix just to lv up allied races/alts to 70 for future mount farming lol

@The_Yukki

Ай бұрын

If that's what you're doing to spice the leveling up, then happy for you. If you're doing it because you want faster leveling? lvling out of remix is faster because blizzard can't deliver on anything.

@Eryk-ks7ce

Ай бұрын

@@The_Yukki how its faster? i do 70lv in 3h getting around 75k bronze buyying some stuff next alt

@Sheriff_K

Ай бұрын

@@The_Yukkiu can easily hit 70 in a day in ReMix tho??

@shesh_o

Ай бұрын

@@Sheriff_K Yes you can, less than 5 hours.

@metsunie

Ай бұрын

​@@shesh_oI hit 70 with about 3 hours 45 minutes yesterday on an alt, including donjons and raid queues and some small breaks. Levelling is indeed crazy fast

Remix had such great potential but then someone in a blizzard meeting had to raise there hand and ask “ sure this all looks fun but how do we make it feel like a job?”. I’m enjoying remix to some extent but it’s not nearly as fun as it should have been and I’ll probably give up on the grind once I’m done with the quests. The regular quests should reward more bronze considering you can only do them once.. per character. I’m enjoying questing through everything. Queued content was completely ruined from the start in terms of fun, due to the power situation. Speed running made it worse.. people aren’t even waiting a few seconds for everyone to finish loading in. Remix should have allowed experiencing the dungeons and raids, and increased bronze rewards accordingly. Killing mop raids in seconds can already be done on retail.

@MrXingor

Ай бұрын

I'm not sure what you're talking about with the quests not giving much. I completed every campaign on my first character and grabbed all the treasures and elusive foes along the way. I had over 100k bronze once I was done. That's including the 40k you get from the new quests they added.

@luaifelemban6974

Ай бұрын

@@MrXingorthe issue is that number is good to either buy few mounts or level up the gear once or twice

@Southboundpachyderm

Ай бұрын

@@MrXingor holy shit you only got 100k? That's fucking horrible. that's barely enough for a couple of the cheaper mounts.

@Mizuladin

Ай бұрын

@@Southboundpachyderm Huh? The cheaper mounts are 2.5k... What are you on about??? 2.5k, 5k.... JFC. Someone spreading lies because they're upset. >:(

@Southboundpachyderm

Ай бұрын

@@Mizuladin dude you get 40k a night just doing raidfinder. Getting 100k for leveling is not enough for even one of the mounts that people actually give a fuck about. No ones playing remix for the recolors of mounts that just serve to make the number in the chievement go up. They’re playing to get their gear maxed out and to get the 8-9 mounts that actually matter.

I played for a few days . I was sold on the idea of broken overpowered play but it seems the fun police can't even gtfo of a limited time event. Moving on.

IMO they could just reduce the cost of upgrading in half and return that amount of bronze if you upgraded your gear before the patch or keep the same and make bronze account wide or at least make the upgrade cost reduction account wide if you reach high Ilvl with one character. It’s an event mode and they are trying to make it a Mythic Raid like in retail 😂

Remix was an easy win and Blizz still managed to f*ck it up.

@msscott22

Ай бұрын

it's a huge win, just gotta upgrade your gear

@shesh_o

Ай бұрын

@@msscott22 600k bronze, to purchase 1.4 million collectibles in bronze, makes sense.

@msscott22

Ай бұрын

@@shesh_o It does make sense. You can swim in bronze once you get fully upgraded.

@the_purple_mage

Ай бұрын

@@msscott22 Don't get me wrong, I love the idea, but 1) Power and Rewards should NOT be the same currency, and 2) the main issue is Time. a lot of players won't even have the time to farm the currency just to get the cosmetics. Remix should have been Fun, not yet another Grind, and by setting it up this way, some players will have to choose content OR cosmetics, and that simply should not be the case.

@msscott22

Ай бұрын

@@felixavenier9659 depends on your goals I suppose, there are other ways to swim in bronze as well

As some one that has almost completed my gear upgrades. I stopped gear leveling on alts because it way too much.

They really need to just get rid of item level scaling, having these convoluted workarounds is just proof the system is broken. We had a working system before, with level brackets and fixed mob/raid power levels. It was attempts to "fix" a problem that didn't need to be fixed that lead to how it is now.

Blizz hates it when players are actually having fun.

@TradingJuice

Ай бұрын

Do as i did, cancel sub and let them know it is because they take all the fun out of it

@alexvillar2218

Ай бұрын

@@TradingJuice I cancelled too, not going to play a fun game mode with no fun

@MrDrelnar

Ай бұрын

They hate it when people rush through content and unsub, they want people to play for as long as possible to make more money, business eh.

Blizzard just can't help themselves from micro-managing players. Remix was such an easy win for them, and they screwed it.

@tim9570

Ай бұрын

Its a blizzard tradition to f it up when things are going smoothly.

@brianmurray7980

Ай бұрын

Nothing was going smoothly. The gulp frog farm, among others, should have been fixed before the release. These changes have been good and have helped level the playing field. The Mythic raiders from retail are rising to the top, the casuals are settling out in the middle and the lower skilled people are settling out towards the bottom. This has been and continues to be a win. The game mode is fun. The people complaining about Remix are people who want to be done with everything within 5 days, degen farmers, and people who think they should have enough time to do Remix, Classic, SoD, and Live Retail.

@Inttallity

Ай бұрын

@@brianmurray7980 Skill is a nonfactor when you can solo hc raids

@landonstandifer1984

Ай бұрын

This is such a bad take. They had an oversight and are trying to deal with it. The frog farmers ruined the game for anyone grouped with them and exploiting that was super degenerate

@brianmurray7980

Ай бұрын

@@Inttallity except the only people able to solo heroic raids are a.) frog farmers who had enough bronze to cap their gear and gems early or b.) the people who didn't frog farm but have more time than others and are maxing out all available bronze on a daily basis (approx 5-6hrs of game play daily).

I ran 4 instances with tanks wearing full 554 purple gear yesterday, and as an ok geared DPS, the way they blew thru the raid/dungeon made me feel like I was slowing them down by being there. Was insane how quick they went thru stuff.

Not having auto loot enabled in MoP remix is crazy

@remi3413

Ай бұрын

It’s to boost xp gain. He takes just the increased xp thread while the XP boost drops from bosses is sent to his mail. Like this he increases the % of xp by doing the raids before looting the bonus xp.

@k.e3730

Ай бұрын

it makes so much sense. I saw this "trick" when you collect everything except the xp (which comes later to your mail) and after you finish your grind and about to close the game, just go to you mailbox and loot the xp. You'll be surprised :)

@Sheriff_K

Ай бұрын

@@k.e3730dont close game, wait for next day reset, get more raid exp threads, THEN open.

@Sheriff_K

Ай бұрын

I just hold shift when looting dungeon/normal+raid bosses.

@valipolarbear5773

Ай бұрын

If you do it leisurely it's about 4-5 hours depends if u heal,tank,DPS I leveled 4 alts to 70 over the weekend,averaging about 60-80k bronze on each,bought mounts then I'll make 15-20 more alts till event is over,my mop remix main is 556 and I have nothing to do on it since I did almost all achievs on him

The only reason I upgraded my gear was to get to heroic siege for heirloom farming, and the tusks of mannoroth. I need another 24 bones, so 6 more heroic clears and I can play a lot more casually.

@jhorn9465

Ай бұрын

Run it on live too because of remix mythic resets every day on live as well lol I'm just seeing which way i get it faster.

@trevorsreya8277

Ай бұрын

@@jhorn9465 If we're talking heirlooms, they don't drop on retail (unless they changed it for remix). And if you're talking about the tusks, I don't have any max level plate wearers on retail to farm for it.

@jhorn9465

Ай бұрын

Yea i was talking about tusks.If it drops on my cloth characters on live ill just hold it till war within because then all characters can learn whatever.

@trevorsreya8277

Ай бұрын

@@jhorn9465 Does it drop for non plate wearers? I thought it was like the flame sword from Antorus in that it'd only drop for the classes that can equip it at the time of it's release.

@jhorn9465

Ай бұрын

@@trevorsreya8277 Yea it does i had them a few years ago on druid but sold them to vendor because lol at that time could not use them.I will probably still get them in mop remix and run live.should be learnable on non plates next expansion.

Dissapointed about the bronze cost for upgrading at 70. I'm just focusing on mounts first then i'll look into the transmogs/toys.

Well im having a blast! Never played MOP and im trying out classes i never played as well. So now im doing lots of alts. Hit lvl 70, have around 80k bronze. Buy the expansive mounts för 38500. I need 2 moore then i have every mount. After that i will get some transmog. And then i go back to my hunter and start farm bronze so i can gear up. I love this mode, enjoy the progress❤But thats me.

@elementioun2233

Ай бұрын

I'm doing the same way, leveling an alt to 70 get us to around 80k bronze, if we get like 10 alts we can buy everything we need with no worries, while we use the main character bronze to upgrade its gear. BTW, I level 2 characters to 70 each 2 days using the mail xp strategy

@Rw-uy5pf

Ай бұрын

@@elementioun2233 yeah I heard about this strategy. Raid and dont use autoloot so u use the xp after from mailbox?

@elementioun2233

Ай бұрын

@@Rw-uy5pf exactly!

I have never in my life, playing this game since launch in 2004, have seen Blizzard do so much "tunning" in WoW's history, they nerf things at least 3 times per day...per day. Nerfing in an event that was advertised as "go nuts, we want you overpowered" is crazy. Who would spend 600k in bronze just to farm 1.4 million in bronze? I have all the mounts, now I will try to get some alts to farm in retail. Gearing up is ridiculous because it will have 0 impact past the 2 months that are left of the event .

@rundown132

Ай бұрын

gotta maximize playtime so people stay subbed longer and appease their MS/Activision overlords

hey Kelani, yh I think this just confirms my roadmap for the event really. I don't think Ill bother upgrading my gear at all. Instead Im going to focus on leveling a redic amount of alts and get my bronze that way, on my third alt now and nearly done with all the mounts. Going for the tranmogs next

there is no point in leveling your gear. and I thought it was supposed to be overpowered? why nerf stuff?

6:41 this was my problem. I spam buttons until I see them fire, but Funeral Pyre didn't show that it had fired until after you turned it off, wasting the ability.

I'm not bothering with bronze upgrades at all. It's like 20k a day to reach the 1.4 mil to get all of the cosmetics and it's 500k to do the upgrades. I'm not wasting 500k on upgrades that are gone in two months. Blizzard are smoking a hedge if they think most of us are going to waste time on that trash instead of mounts.

@thirtysilver33

Ай бұрын

That was the plan all along. Kept them playing alt after alt not getting ez/fun power where once they get that they will leave.

@shalakabooyaka1480

Ай бұрын

I get 40k+ bronze a day from doing heroic raids that I get into by having my gear buffed up. Raids are super-fast with a geared group as well.

@Sheriff_K

Ай бұрын

I lvl’d an alt to 70 in 1day, and had 85k Bronze when I hit 70..

@LeAnhThyEli

Ай бұрын

After spending 500k to get 476 (you dont need to reach that point btw, just 420 is enough), you will notice that making that 1.4mils (all cosmetics) is like x10times faster than you at start making that 500k :3 (including you can speed run throu dailies, get instant inv to raids (anything but ToT HC, ToT hc best to make ur own group) :D .

@JoveZmaj

Ай бұрын

not buying upgrades make sense only if you gonna be boosted by someone for dailies or if you wanna get 20alts to 70

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When I was at 346, it took over 3hrs to clear SoO in a bad group. After I upgraded gear to max, I was able to fully clear all heroic raids in that same timeframe. I'm actually spending less time on MOP after upgrading and halfway done purchasing all the transmogs.

I'm not surprised they aren't reducing the upgrade costs at this stage. Wouldn't be surprised if they drop things in the back half though

@Whatever-mq7vy

Ай бұрын

Would suck though.

Blizzard confirming the upgrade costs won't be changing has only further killed the event for me, personally. I got all the cosmetics I wanted just by leveling a few toons to 70. I was really looking forward to having some fun with being OP, as advertised, but I won't be chasing the latest "frog" farm before it also gets nerfed...

If you get an epic item that you want to replace there is a catch-up reduced cost for epics that will replace those blues you have already upgraded. Something I noticed recently.

Well, the thing about upgrading gear is that it shouldn't use the same currency you use to get the rewards from the event. They clearly thought with how easy it is to get Bronze that they needed a "gold sink" for Bronze so that it wouldn't be worthless once you got everything you wanted. They also clearly didn't realize the obvious: that people who don't have as much time to play would feel afraid to spend it for power and risk not having enough time to farm it back for rewards. Rewards being the main point of the event for a lot of people, and for the designers that made the event as well I would assume from the interviews. An oversight I hope they fix next time they do a Remix by having another currency for power that you can get alongside Bronze and avoid making people afraid to gear up.

I cannot wait for Legion remix myself. I hope they learn a lot off the MoP one of what not to do by then lol

"Lots of folks have already upgraded their gear" yeah because they killed 201,568 frogs which we can't do now even if we wanted to (to the same level)

@LeAnhThyEli

Ай бұрын

All frogs farmers were nerfed. any big bois you see today are legit players, they just have much more time to play thats all xD

@shalakabooyaka1480

Ай бұрын

I just got my gear fully upgraded today, I havent sat and killed any mobs for a farm yet. I just do heroic raids daily.

@UltimateGamerCC

Ай бұрын

i've been playing legit and i'm ilvl 406, it's not as difficult as people blow it out to be, especially since you have to climb one tier at a time and each level is 3K to 4.5K save for 2H Weapon which is 9K, but that also holds a huge chunk of Primary Stat, hence the higher price.

@JoveZmaj

Ай бұрын

not true i never farmed any hyperspawn it takes like 7days of dailies and you are max ilvl

@nicklili2560

Ай бұрын

@@LeAnhThyEli they got nerfed in cloak, but what about all the bronze they got to buy every cosmetic in the game and upgrade gear?

I am glad to be almost finished with the event. The ridiculous scaling makes the game totally unfun from lvl 60/65ish onwards, so I only use it to level alts to get all the heritage armor sets and on top of it a bunch of toys and mounts anyway.

I was able to get every Remix exclusive mount as soon as my first character hit 70. It’s really easy to get whatever you want. Use your bronze on your main to upgrade gear, and power level alts for all the cosmetics.

To me remix is relax mode, I am just there to level some alts and get some fun new toys, mounts and transmogs. It's cool to see someone just demolish a dungeon or raid but even without upgrades we are all over powered. I am not going to waste my time upgrading when I can get a cool new mount.

I thought you only had to buy gear upgrades once for full price and then the catchup price for alts 😅

i cant find a group who can compelte the raid where lei shen is the endboss i had already 7 groups who coudnt defeat "durmu the forgotten" thats horrible

The whole point of this is to get some transmogs, mounts and a different wat to level than Dragonflight content at the end of its life. It is a temp event who cares if stuff is OP let us have fun!

Well i completed remix the other day and u am fullt upgraded so i can save the bronze for mogs or level more alts wich i am currently doing for the heritage armor sets.

i like the season 1 keystone mount. we already know the following 3 will be recolors. that's a good mount for multiple dif colors.

im tired of being bullied by elites

I'm only made 2 toons one for mounts the other for transmogs toys are going to be in the back burner or not at all we'll see if I can get all the stuff before the even is over.

I've actually grinded remix and have all my gear upgraded to 556, not a single farm, just daily quest and raids, in fact at this point I'll like for them to let us upgrade trinkets rings and neck, that way I'll use the extra bronze I have in my main character and feel like I've reached "endgame".

i just do the dailies get about 10 - 12k bronze a day and log out of the event, works out to be enough for me to get all the mounts and any mogs i want so im good

Decisions like these are kinda the reason I didn't bother to even worry about gear upgrading just using it as a means to level alts and to grab mogs and mounts I want, as of now I have 4 total alts done and each alt I have leveled has about 80k bronze by the end which roughly gets me 1-2 of the raid/WB only mounts. I also have all the meta achievements aside from heroic raid meta for Claw of Eternus title.

@nenwar3454

Ай бұрын

I'm slamming a copy of my main on retail for gear on the weekdays because I know how to play it, slam level alts for mounts on the weekend, priesticals are very easy to level as it currently stands

@emu071981

Ай бұрын

There is also a achievement + title for completing Mythic SoO - ", Paragon of the Mists".

i am not a frogger and i was able to buy all my mounts with bronze and get all my plate Tmogs and still managed to get max ilvl just make sure your doing daily raid world tours and if you can do it on heroic a full heroic world tour gives 42k bronze in the cashes alone also dont forget you can do normal heroic and mythic SoO in the same day they do not share lockouts

It's great how they gave 40k bronze for the no frog farmers but realistically they missed an entire 360k on that number to make it realistic. Remix is a farce of what it could and should be.

@UltimateGamerCC

Ай бұрын

nah, you gotta work for the power, if all you can do is sneeze and get god mode given to you, what would there be for you to strive towards? this is a 95 day event, you should've rolled up your sleeves the moment you saw the timer. and honestly obtaining a ton of Bronze aint all that hard at all, it just takes time, of which you can get a lot of it when you're 70 and dinging achievements as most achievements give caches of Bronze, then there's also daily caches for doing Random Dungeons and Scenarios on Normal AND Heroic, i do those first thing and i'm literally off to continue my day, which i spend knocking out achievements and killing World Bosses for Gold Spools.

@Sweggabeg

Ай бұрын

@UltimateGamerCC trash takes like this are why you're guna get farmed for metrics. If you want meaningful progression go play the main servers. This was supposed to be a throw away laugh that took place in 10 year old content. There is no 'earning' anything.

@UltimateGamerCC

Ай бұрын

@@Sweggabeg so sayeth the whale.. how many tokens do you pay for your Ahead of the Curve?

@Sweggabeg

Ай бұрын

@UltimateGamerCC The heck about anything I said implied I was a whale? Full context, I've played WoW at varying paces from Realm first to now literal gamer dad for 20 years (god that hurts to say). This isnt some veiled scheme to push my own interests, this is an unbiased opinion that Remix is trash and Blizz are pushing nothing but shit 'fixes' to artificially extend their safety net until War Within comes out. I just hate seeing people like you get suckered into these things thinking that they're being generous with thought provoking mechanics to promote player commitment, growth and achievements. It's a 3 month sub extention with flashy lights my guy.

@UltimateGamerCC

Ай бұрын

@@Sweggabeg "there is no earning anything," are the words of someone who gave up.

I like the remix and how it deals with bronze. You can get almost everything as a casual player that doesnt want to raid heroic and mythic so you dont need 476 ilvl but if you want to do that, it should take time and struggle.

I love upgrading my gear and the grind to feel the power progression doesn't bother me. I typically have more time than others though. They really should've fixed this for the people who don't have the time to sink.

I am having a blast leveling alts and collecting mounts. I got almost all of them at this point. I don't get how some people still find ways to complain.

That God damned Fun Detector alarm never shuts off at Blizzard HQ. I regret not farming frogs.

I was using chi ji to heal, it has already been doing ridiculously good healing.

Honestly the Bronze costs not going down isn't a big deal if they increase the Bronze gains. Like Bronze% on cloak. This +1000% Exp Bonus on my cloak is just sitting there.

What’s the point in getting better gear or if everything’s going to be scaled up!?

Farming is not fun to me so anything that requires it I'm not doing. I level an alt, do some dailies, and spend my bronze on transmogs or mounts. If it takes a bit longer, so be it.

@williamcolgin1987

Ай бұрын

it's actually way faster making bronze with alt leveling. Thats what I've been doing and I've gotten all the mounts and cosmetics I've wanted.

@fishtacos007

Ай бұрын

I'm doing the same, it's pretty fun to play classes I wouldn't play otherwise. These people crying in the comments is kind of crazy

@Marlena_M

Ай бұрын

Yeah thats my goal too.

So if you have purchaced the Collectors edition you wont get the beta access because we wont get the box before the beta?

I just finish getting my gear maxed out in Remix ( 0 hyperspawn farming )

Blizzard - we have a mode where you make you character op, strong, and one shot things Also blizzard - only if you play the mode in our prescribed way, no having fun beyond that

Well unlucky, i sadly dont have that much time to play the game (sometimes not even days in a row, or even weeks) and it just feels like i will not be able to catch up ever in Remix. Was hyped for this event, but i will stick to event exclusives and then move on.

Upgraded the gear in under a week so now got 75+ days for mount/transmog farming. Never touched a single frog or farm group I just killed every rare I saw and did every quest in the different zones.

Ive played remix since day 1, but I was absent for the farms and cheese thread/bronze gathering methods due to IRL stuff. Would I have taken advantage? 100%... but I was literally AFK :D I now have a max ilvl paladin with something like 130k threads naturally. My advise is, if you want to get HC on a daily farm its worth gearing 1 character so that you get insta-invited to groups and can speed run all the raids every day for something like 60k bronze relatively quickly. It sure does cost a lot to do that... I did it because I wanted the mythic SoO title (which ended up being a breeze). I have also started levelling alts so that I can get a few more characters and ofc the 40k bronze bonus is nice. But in terms of time investment just playing my paladin for an hour a day is far more effective.

I don't really care about upgrading gear that much in Panda Remix, i rather have all tmogs and mounts then stupid upgrades what would be pointless by The War Within cuz your gear gonna get out-dated by then.

I’m still enjoying it a lot more than Season 4, but damn is this giving me war flashbacks for BFA/Shadowlands Blizzard ie. sucking the fun out of everything. It’s ultimately why I quit the game throughout most of Shadowlands. Thankfully the main WoW team has mostly gotten the memo. Hopefully the Remix team have learned a lot by the time the next Remix comes around.

With Blizzard dragging their feet on nerfing bronze costs, players who are in the beta will be choosing between remix where they get stuff they can keep or beta where nothing they do they keep. Most will keep to remix thanks to how much bronze players may need per day, then probably retail to finish those last minute things. TWW will go live with a lot of bugs thanks to so few testers largely due to remix pulling them away. I would play beta but I have so much bronze to get that beta will take the back burner.

What I am finding is 476 ranked players are now selling their services to rush people through instances, whatever happened to high level players helping (allright - 'boosting') lower spec people through instances, we used to do it in Classic if someone wanted to do the deadmines or stockades etc. I guess everything has become money focused

eh, whatever. I got my 300 mount achievement, thats all i wanted to do this for, cuz i knew theyd make it sweaty like this for no reason.

I don't think upgrade costs are that high. If you want to upgrade every piece its 40k bronze. You can easily make quite some bronze by doing a Normal and a Heroic Dungeon, a Normal and a Heroic Scenario, those give you a big cache for each one and one for the daily quest, which is worth 1250 bronze x6 plus 500 I think per boss. Raidfinder is really good to rack up the XP% on the cloak, +7% per wing, so you can gain 70% for 10 wings. But of course, maybe it would have been better if the whole upgrade system was not there... and you can spend bronze purely on rewards. But then I would guess they would be more stingy to give out bronze. I am not sure if that be better.

I somewhat (barely) understand not reducing the upgrade costs, but I don't understand why the upgrade discounts aren't account wide. My first character is maxed after two weeks of dailies, now I just wanna play some alts...

I just want the Heavenly Onyx Serpent. I got exalted with Shadow Pan to get the normal one. I’ll grind bronze to get the heavenly one.

They dont need to change the upgrade prices … I have been playing 4h a day since release and I have all the itens upgraded and itens I want. The event have more than 80 days remaining, just play half hour a day and you Will have full gear and all rewards by the end …

They don’t want people that upgraded gear to feel scammed, but they had no problem patching the frogs… Come on Blizzard…

"You should just upgrade your gear to chase the higher difficulties" Yeah ONE LITTLE PROBLEM WITH THAT.

Good information, sad about them not lowering the bronze cost. Screw that upgrade, 600k bronze to upgrade is a bit ridiculous. I'll just play a couple of alts and get what i want and move on from MoP Remix.

We can upgrade our gear?

@gabegood8989

Ай бұрын

yeah if your a lunatic

Took me just under 3 days /played at 70 to max my character out and get paragon of the mists. I didn't hit 70 before the frog nerd so I didn't get to benefit from that outside of the 40k bronze for not being apart of it. Just did my daily and raid locked each raid every day for a few days. It wasn't a bad experience but I have done the raids enough now to have zero interest in raid locking another character everyday for a week+. I'm now just leveling a bunch of alts and am collecting about 100k bronze by the time I hit them to 70 to buy cosmetics. I'd love to experience some other classes in the broken state but it's to much work to do again. The reupgrade cost reductions should atleast be account wide. We've got 76 days left, if you start today without going to hard and just clear dailys/some raids you can fully max out before the day 60 mark without sweating over it but being asked to do that on every class you want to experience is obserd when this isn't even a game that will last. Everything is going to disappear in 2 months. Now for the unpopular option, I don't think the initial bronze cost for upgrading your gear is bad. Anyone can max out in 2-3 weeks without sweating. Just do you daily and lockout as many raids as possible each day. Now again, on alts the cost should be greatly reduced but on the main its fine. Personally I "finished" my character 3 days ago and while I've been playing the same amount of time a day less than an hour was on my main. For me and most of my friends, once you max out you hit a brick wall where your just done with it. Doing 5 raids a day for 2 weeks causes you to hit a brick wall once you max out your gear. Since I have alts I want to level and cosmetics I still need I'm still engaged in the event but if it wasn't for that I would be done. The only thing that'll get be back into it truly would be reduced costs for upgrades on alts so I can try the stupid broken versions of other classes.

Never upgrade before 346 becouse its too easy to reach that, but after, always upgrade your gears (at least on your main) before anything else. Each upgrade you got stronger and the time and effort to make back the same number of bronze you use to upgrade get reduce by a lot (including you get into group with higher ilevel faster too when it comes to farm daily raids).

fun police, sweat lords, oh my! I love the game though. Cannot wait to see what happens next

I just want the mounts & transmogs I miss

@williamcolgin1987

Ай бұрын

Leveling alts is the way to go for that. You get a 40K bronze bonus on every new toon that hits 70 plus from 30-40k just from kills.

I have made 4 different chars on remix and so far only 1 has any blue gear they can up I don't see the point in upping green gear , my point is blue gear doesn't drop for everyone so how could you gear up to do raids ?

All I’m saying is it’s crazy that they can update this so quickly yet I’m still unable to buy recipes from certain vendors since day one of DF

Blizzard have legit touch with reality. They have zero fucking idea what the community wants anymore

@vaethe_w

Ай бұрын

The remix team is a small branch of devs maintaining it, I think they're making bad calls sure but this is a bit harsh for what this is

@netherialdreyrimani

Ай бұрын

@@vaethe_w A bit harsh? my brother, they nerfed farms, but left the benefits that people got from it, not including the cloak which is minimal compared to gear ilvl upgrades that make a majority of player power, give you a pittance for not farming, and make non-retroactive bronze buffs to achievements. Now they are nerfing anything and everything that gives non farmer players a tiny fraction of the farmers power, and telling people they don't want to invalidate the farmers *gear upgrades*.

@vaethe_w

Ай бұрын

@netherialdreyrimani ya but the gear upgrades are rly easy to get and there is still 80 days left

@donnabailey9747

Ай бұрын

You actually think they listen to us 😂😂

@vaethe_w

Ай бұрын

@@donnabailey9747 sometimes ya

I have leveled 10 characters to 70 this event at an average of 4hr per toon. I have only the heirloom items left and plenty of time to get them. And I've bought every single item I didn't have. Granted I had almost every single mop toy. I personally think the bronze cost is fine. I'm actually at place where's there's nothing left for me to buy so i can upgrade all my alts if i want.

just wondering, why didnt he pick up the bronze cache from boss?

They massively changed the thread drops at yesterday's reset Im getting 600/720 stats for legendary threads is crazy now lol epic threads are 300 instead of 100 and regular mob drops are double 24 instead of 12. Bronze drops are double from completing lfg raids 1000 instead of 500

Here's a game mode for fun.. No no, not like that.

I really dont understand why Blizzard removed the cosmetics drops (mostly pets and toys) from the raid bosses and rare mobs, especially in timeless isle. In addition to that, there is no vendor to sell the old pets. So there is no way to get them in this event. I am farming for some pets and toys for years now and i was hoping i could get them now, but nope. I dont get the philosophy of this change. Hope i could get an answer, but Blizz wont even bother.

Everyone needs to fkn relax. This is new to them too.. I’m sure they’ve gotten a lot of lessons learned from this mode and are going to be able to do something similar in the future but much better

Not even bothering to make that ridiculous grind for leveling gear as the new expansion is coming and all this gear and the special power gems will all be obsolete when the xpac releases.

It feels like a lot of those people who could 'second guess their decision' to upgrade gear may have had some frog-like help... I wanted to try raiding but until I get all the rewards I won't be upgrading my gear yet

I don't do anything that takes a large part of my time as a casual player. So that throws out dungeons and raids. I also don't work well with groups since most of my time is 95% solo play. I help the guild out when necessary but I don't live my life for them either. I've decided that I'll play MoP my way and leave all the multitude advice as it just becomes confusing and it leaves me trying to decide what to do next based on all the you tube advice that is out there. I've one 70 I upgraded most gear to 374 with two pieces still needing that. I've one alt at 66 and 4 alts ranging from 25 to 32. I'll forgo beta as it's a wipe anyways and just take the three day early start instead. I understand those that got a reduction on their robe should have expected some kind of nerf. Better then a ban for exploitation, but I also think that they should have received a slight reduction on their equipment as well. I came across a goat farmer early on not knowing what he was doing and joined to help him out until I finally figured out what he was doing and backed off since I had a feeling that it was an exploit and I wanted none of that incase the hammer came down. Even if it wasn't I still wouldn't have continued as it was so boring and that's not playing the game as I see it. Good for others maybe but as a long time MMO player not something I want while playing.

Mages with 8 million health and never reset their capes after frog farming exploit killed MOP Remix.

I just want to at least have upgrade discounts on my alts so they're not actually unplayable at level 70. Have it 1 level below my main's if it's a problem for boosting your main.

@williamcolgin1987

Ай бұрын

They definitely should have alt discounts for gear upgrades

@UltimateGamerCC

Ай бұрын

you can actually, if you wait for a piece of gear to drop up to 346, you can enjoy a 95% discount, it's only ABOVE 346 where you wont really get to enjoy discounts save for replacing greens with blues and purps.

@sahkovalo

Ай бұрын

@@UltimateGamerCC That's the thing, full 346 still feels weak on my alts. My main's upgradable gear is at around 458 and it makes a world of difference

@UltimateGamerCC

Ай бұрын

@@sahkovalo yes, and that was by design, as 346 drops at 70, you're basically thinking that you should be able to do Mythic when you're wearing Season 1 Primalist gear. once you cross the threshold into 400, you start feeling more strong, at 70 i was getting healed a LOT as a Tank when doing Heroics starting out, but now at 402 i am not receiving all that much damage. take some time to knock out Quests, kill World Bosses, ding Achievements and do Randos on Normal AND Heroic, as your gear/cloak grows you'll stop being so squishy.

@sahkovalo

Ай бұрын

@@UltimateGamerCC I'm already strong on my main, I'm just not gonna grind my ass off to be able to not suffer on my alts. I would like to do bazaar quests without feeling like a deadweight but oh well.

Idk i dont like the new Human Racial. Idk where u need 2 Charges for a HS. Would be better if u get 2 HS and u can bind them on different places.

When MoP remix ends and our characters are migrated to TWW do we retain our gear gains or will they get squashed or leveled out in some way?

Remix needed more time in the oven. But I enjoyed it, playing ole content with a new twist. But tbf, sometimes fixing nothing would be better than fixing everything. Because now they are walking behind the live game all the time. I would use the time doing something less problematic.

Theres more than 2 whole months left to play the event and them to polish things out.

the cost of upgrading stuff in wow remix has basically killed remix for me..... i was looking forward to trying some of the endgame stuff in remix but now I'm just doing a bit of farming for the things i want (mounts), mainly because i just don't have time to farm all the bronze needed to upgrade my gear and then still farm bronze for all the cosmetics and mounts so i made the choice of prioritizing the mounts (i had wanted to do the frog farm but was waiting to get to max lvl first so i missed out on it lol)

Pls help me! I got only 500 bronze from daily quests, not the 1250. How can i get more?