But neither Netflix nor R.Gadd has said Fiona is Martha so the mountain of proof begins with FIONA proving SHE IS MARTHA

@-sue-unwind

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@rw4614

Ай бұрын

Not really. She’s admitting contacting him but not to the extent he claims.

@patrikmakela8456

Ай бұрын

Its enough that people realise who the real person is...

@keencyclist6134

Ай бұрын

Pretty good point there

@p0tter80

Ай бұрын

True… there could be another slightly odd,chubby, Scottish bird out there who’s just watching and laughing at all this. 😂

She's going to sue a show she hasn't seen and claims that the character in the show isn't her? Ok.

@jamesburner3133

Ай бұрын

You dont have to watch the show to know the story of the show

@Crimson11100

Ай бұрын

she could have easily given her phones and social media to investigators to prove that she did not send those messages, but she still hasn't...

@chastinshanks7551

Ай бұрын

@@Crimson11100He also hasn’t provided receipts of the messages. That’s a double edged sword.

@judelyanne2966

Ай бұрын

She has a photographic memory, but didn't do as well or can't remember her marks from law school? Having a photographic memory is so rare only a very very small percentage of the population in the entire world has that gift..She would remember everything she's ever read ,including grades...She acts like the character Martha who seems delusional and believes her own lies... I'm sure Richard knowing that making up outrageous claims would hold him liable and doubt he would've been so careless as to say she committed such extreme acts of harassment and I'm sure along with people around at the time along with a "paper trail" of voicemails, emails... She just said oh, he forged them... I personally don't believe her , just by going by the responses she gave during this interview, which I'm sure paid her a lot to give.I don't think she's being honest . What a situation for Gad now.. He himself has been through enough with her..

@briandoherty245

Ай бұрын

No she didnt say it wasn't her but that it was'nt true.

I can’t imagine Netflix not doing their homework on this…

@paulfitness5157

Ай бұрын

I can

@ChromeDrone.

Ай бұрын

100%. Their legal team has to be very experienced with this sort of thing, and I'm sure they have a highly vetted and refined process by now for protecting themselves.

@pjpredhomme7699

Ай бұрын

@@ChromeDrone. you would assume so , the proof will be in the pudding as they say.

@CaroleEvans93436

Ай бұрын

In the end credits, it says that 'This program is based on true events however, certain characters, names, incidents, locations and dialogue have been fictionalised for dramatic purposes

@rosemcginnis914

Ай бұрын

Remember the Cleopatra documentary??? Did Netflix do the homework there? Netflix is selling entertainment, they are the ones to ones to push the truth, it does not mean she js 100% innocent but I think the truth has been pushed here

The worst part is I’m the show she also basically got away with everything for 23 years because she knew the law. She knew not to be on his property, she knew to record their conversations. She knows how to play the legal system and it’s scary

@evesapple

Ай бұрын

Thats the thing- if she was just crazy i woud feel sorry for her. But she 100% knows what she's doing.

@oh_k8

Ай бұрын

You don't know if its true yet. Wait for facts before making accusations. She might be slightly weird but a lot of people have personality quirks and that doesn't make one a criminal stalker.

@mikehunt7360

28 күн бұрын

@@oh_k8if someone said I was a stalker, but didn’t mention me by name.. I def wouldn’t come out of the wood work screaming “I am her! But I didn’t do that”. That’s crazy to begin with.

@reneecollins600

17 сағат бұрын

He got onher property and peeped through her window AND went uninvited to her house to have sex with her. How does that make her the stalker?

@oh_k8

17 сағат бұрын

@@mikehunt7360 The media already outed her before she gave an interview stating she believed the character was about her. Denying it wouldn't have kept her unknown.

I don't know the law, but I imagine, for a victim, there is no distinction between 20k and 40k emails. Any amount is a nuisance and harassment

@thesupergreenjudy

Ай бұрын

He didn't say 20k - he meant literally 20 emails, as she stated in the interview

@reneecollins600

Ай бұрын

Except Gadd ran to her house UNINVITED and initiated having with her! I don't see he can then claim he was 'stalked,'

@A-ze4vh

29 күн бұрын

@@thesupergreenjudyFalse. The show alleges 40k worth of emails. Not 20. She has said that to try & minimise her involvement & discredit his claims.

@allisonmoore2928

23 күн бұрын

⁠@@A-ze4vh the person you replied to is talking about this man in the video we are commenting on saying “if it weren’t 40,000 emails but 20” it would be different.

I think Netflix did their research first before agreeing to produce the show. If they had lawyers involved I’m sure they asked for receipts to show that he’s telling the truth.

@Pollyferganstien

Ай бұрын

Then why didn’t they know she wasn’t jailed doh

@lori452

Ай бұрын

If there are emails as mentioned or actually went to jail that should be easy to prove.

@shanzfendi

Ай бұрын

@@Pollyferganstien Richard added that in as an ending intentionally. He said that ill people need help not jail time.

@rainbows_trees_clouds_dais1766

Ай бұрын

Regardless, they should’ve done far more to protect her identity. She’s clearly a very sick woman + they cashed in on her. People with personality disorders WILL respond … terribly/trigger another cycle. Her behaviour + perception of reality is completely normal for someone as ill as her. They could’ve and should’ve adapted her character + taken some other measures so she couldn’t be tracked down in 5mins. It wouldn’t have impacted the storyline if done well. I feel sorry for her. She needs help. I hope she at least gets some money out of it… Or someone in the Psychiatric world reaches out and offers her help or inpatient program free of charge… and goes public educating the public of her illness. I have a friend who ran one of the only programs in Australia for people with personality disorders (6mths of full time, Mon-Fri, group therapy + practical life skills)… what those people go through (and the impact they have on those around them) if left untreated is really sad. There’s apparently only a few types of therapy styles that can help them… their illness is very difficult to treat (most interventions are ineffective/a lot of therapists won’t see them). I find that really sad/can’t imagine what it must be like. Sure she creates hell for those around her… but she doesn’t deserve not to have her identity protected.

@bronaghisgay

Ай бұрын

@@Pollyferganstien it's common knowledge that every single movie/show that's based on a true story has fictionalized parts and is heavily dramatized to make it more entertaining. Richard Gadd has spoken on the fictional aspects of the show well before Fiona ever came forward about anything, and he very explicitly stated that the real Martha never went to jail and that the ending was entirely fictional for the sake of drama and conclusion.

We need piers to interview Gadd

@nunyanope4988

Ай бұрын

I don’t think piers did a good job with it tho.

@karenmorgan2146

29 күн бұрын

YES!

She admitted to sending him a letter, but she didn't know where he lived ? Lol

@ND-lu6dv

Ай бұрын

She sent 18 in fact no... 16 . Only 6 emails actually in fact only q 1letter and actually I didn't speakto anyone about the show... But all my friends and family.. But I've not seen it

@sonyamcintyre6692

Ай бұрын

Lots of people are saying this, did any of you even watch the interview? She literally said she sent the letter to the theatre!

@ND-lu6dv

Ай бұрын

@@sonyamcintyre6692 no she did not ha ha, I take it you are her friend "she's going to hurt herself" Worlds to harsh for me to care

@ImperialMindMusic

Ай бұрын

Na she did

@sonyamcintyre6692

Ай бұрын

@ND-lu6dv watch the bloody interview! She said she sent the letter to the theatre! those were the words that came out her mouth! Where did I say I believe a damn word she said? I didn't! Her interview was a car crash, maybe don't jump the gun 🤣🙈

A woman came forward today to say she was stalked by her for 5 years..... so apparently she is a stalker.

@LogicalVelocity

Ай бұрын

She did an interview with Neil Sears from Daily Mail a couple days before the Piers Morgan interview and harassed him within 10 minutes of ending that interview. Several threatening voicemails and texts. Contradicted herself between the 2 interviews. She told Neil that her boyfriend died, then in the Piers interview, talked about him.

@Jasonxknot

Ай бұрын

Look up Fiona Muir. Her full name is Fiona Muir-Harvey, but she normally goes by Muir. I think she thought she was being clever by just using Harvey on Piers. If you look up Fiona Muir, you'll find an article from 1997 about her stalking someone. She's crazy.

@LogicalVelocity

Ай бұрын

@@Jasonxknot Ya, I looked into it and read the articles. That poor family, even trying to get social services involved making fake accusations of child abuse. Insane for sure!

So wait. She is suing over a show she never saw. About someone not her. She seems stable.

Even IF everything is a true story, and the woman did serve her punishment, who gives Netflix the right to disturb the mentally sensitive person all over again by exposing her to harassment from people she never met or did anything wrong to? They did not even try to protect her identity and that is so obvious.

She said that she is not a stalker but she had already done a full research about Piers Morgan' life, "oh I am younger than you " .

@westie6475

Ай бұрын

So, you can’t be fans of people

@gabrielleandrew542

Ай бұрын

These little asides she said to Piers were a little unsettling .

@Lonelystar_xoxo

Ай бұрын

@@kristinefletcherwode4640maybe she might want to actually research and watch the show then if she is claiming it’s about her and it’s all false.

@pjpredhomme7699

Ай бұрын

@@gabrielleandrew542 Narcissism is all about control - and that was one of many, many little examples of her attempting to assert control of the conversation.

Fiona will sue, and they will settle out of court. She wants a piece of the pie, imo.

@vexnaex

Ай бұрын

Nah. She just wants the attention

@vanessak69

Ай бұрын

@@vexnaexBoth, I’d say. It’s also a way to continue to punish him for rejecting her.

@bcoull290

Ай бұрын

She will not sue. She knows he has all the emails and texts. His family and friends would testify.

@eternalslumber4195

Ай бұрын

Imagine if u were fiona, she should sue because its defamation

@vanessak69

Ай бұрын

@@bcoull290 I honestly don't know the legal ins and outs but I think the concern isn't lack of proof (I think likely there's plenty of it) but whether he didn't sufficiently disguise her identity. She IS on a press tour now and clearly living for it, but people inclined to do so had also already figured out who she was.

It's clearly hyper ball.

@annknows802

Ай бұрын

I heard that too. "Hyper-bowl"

@ircjesselee

Ай бұрын

​@@annknows802The championship game of Hyper Ball is the Hyper-Bowl.

@ginettedarlington6793

Ай бұрын

I think she means hyperbole, look it up. She clearly has only ever seen it written down, not heard how it is actually spoken.

@avrilmitchellgriffiths7307

29 күн бұрын

Hyperbole! X

@ircjesselee

29 күн бұрын

@@avrilmitchellgriffiths7307 When I was younger I pronounced it Hyper Bowley for fun 😀

You could also argue that by making up stuff about her in show wasnt just artistic license but an effort to hide her true identity. She outed herself, yet will also claim its not her. Good luck with your case if shes the main witness, she contradicted herself so many times it was hard to keep up.

@TheGoorru

Ай бұрын

People tracked her down by contacting her on Facebook and finding her Twitter

@harryhill8543

Ай бұрын

@@TheGoorru yep and she could have denied it and claimed the writers used her tweets etc to develop the character. Its odd she seems angry that the story wasnt 100% accurate as well as denying the things that were. Its this odd thinking that two opposites can be right at the same, which comes across in the interview, is what is most striking about her thought processes.

@asmith5007

Ай бұрын

​@@harryhill8543💯, he didn't reveal her identity .....she did

@lauriew3517

Ай бұрын

You should be a Lawyer - all the lies they told about person was designed to hide their identity

@marcdraco2189

Ай бұрын

Did you actually listen to what the lawyer said? Doesn't matter if she said "it's me" - she was already outed by the Internet before she opened up.

she wanted to be found, this is HER doing.

@Mumasarah

Ай бұрын

100% agree, i was goinf to say the same.

@nutcracker2916

Ай бұрын

Also for someone who claims to be so bright. She doesn't even put her social media on private. And sounds obsessive about Richard and the ex staff of The Hawley Arms and not in a good way.

@lulunz6809

Ай бұрын

Absolutely. Its part of her very clearly portrayed behaviour. What about the whole programme suggested otherwise? People obviously missed the whole thing about her being a crazed stalker???!!! A dangerous crazed stalker. Of course shes here. Where was Piers duty of care to her victims?

@staceyb3882

Ай бұрын

Yeah I agree. She is going to be crazy now for us all. Mark my words

@bartbotsimpson

Ай бұрын

Well no the daily mail contacted her saying they know its her

I mean, they say in the credits that some things were changed for artistic or dramatic effect. Which is essentially a disclaimer that it's not 100% accurate, so it's not stating slander as fact. Not to mention, the creator admits openly some things were embellished. Slander is lying about someone with malicious intent to hurt them. If it were a documentary claiming everything was true and outed her ID, she might have a case. This is a drama series. She has no case.

@stephiegetsit

Ай бұрын

I think you made the best comment I read.

@thesupergreenjudy

Ай бұрын

Unfortunately that's not how the law works - 1) Netflix said at the outset that "This IS a true story" and only mentioned about the dramatization in the credits that nobody watches 2) The public is really quite stupid, they will take the whole thing at face value which they did and some decided to harass her at her own home because the film makers included information that made her easily identifiable (Her twitter posts at verbatim) 3) Netflix did not specify WHICH parts were dramatized (eg that she went to prison, that it was 40k emails instead of 18 or 20 odd emails as she claimed which wouldn't make for a good story, would it?) - Only a court case could verify her and his claims properly 4) It doesn't mean she is innocent and not a stalker but if any of these claims are exaggerated to the point that it would cause public outcry, yes it is a problem and defamatory - especially if it, ironically, leads to her being stalked 5) Even if the entire story is correct to the T, Netflix must follow due diligence in protecting her identify which they hopelessly failed at (even though Gadd thinks otherwise - but it took the public all of 5 minutes to find her)

@Jasonxknot

Ай бұрын

​@thesupergreenjudy It doesnt matter where they put the disclaimer. All that matters is they put somewhere where everyone can read it. Some people watch credits, others dont. You cant prove in court that no one watches the credits, but you can prove the disclaimer was in the show and available to everyone who watched it. This lady was lying through her teeth on Piers. Court records arent available to the public in the UK like they are in the United States, so you cant look up if she has criminal records. But, if you look up her real name, you'll find news articles on her stalking history, going back to 1997. Her name is Fiona Muir-Harvey. She normally goes by Fiona Muir, but chose Harvey for Piers Morgan. Look up Fiona Muir and you'll find the articles. What she did in 1997 sounds very similar to what's portrayed in the show.

@thesupergreenjudy

Ай бұрын

@@Jasonxknot Well we may have to agree to disagree (by the way, I am not claiming she is an innocent victim but the law is still the law) - a court may indeed find that Netflix should have made it clearer - especially as they started it off on the premise that it is a true story just to backtrack later in the credits. Words matter. Now, even if the story was correct to the T, Netflix may still be liable if she can prove that they haven't done their due diligence in protecting her identity (quoting tweets at verbatim which can be found on Google within 5 minutes is a big red flag). And even if it was all correct, that doesn't change the fact that the harassment of her by the public is a crime of which the driving motivator was that Netflix show. If she has a good lawyer (Even a No win - No Fee lawyer) , she could probably win

Sounds like Netflix is about to get sued…

I wish everyone would go after the Darrien person with the same energy. If Martha is real then Darrien is also real and out there.

It amazes me how cruel society is. How would you want to destroy a human without any proof. And if it’s true, it has to be settled in court.

@joeanna1100

Ай бұрын

I feel the rapist in the drama is the bad guy

@funhold565

Ай бұрын

I don’t agree with the majority of people trying to destroy her as well. It is because no one knows the truth. Yet, these people mindlessly label someone as such without any considerations. I just thought, if you see her as such, and you were that inconsiderate, what do you think of yourself then? Little with no considerations.

@vacanlient

Ай бұрын

What cruelty? All of them will end up few million richer at the end. The only victims are people watching this pseudo drama instead having a life

@marcdraco2189

Ай бұрын

@@joeanna1100 And even the rapist was never so much as charged. What if he had all of that up?

@mysticjen379

Ай бұрын

💯 Glad other people can see her side like I can. It’s very odd.

even if every claim proves out, Netflix sure didn't do much to change the name and appearance so she is subject now to harassment. I think she has a darn good case either way

Scanning through the comments it's astonishing how many people seem to completely ignore the expert. This needs to be tested in court.

@simonsaysrewind

Ай бұрын

Was thinking same.. too many pretend lawyers about or know-it-alls 😂

@marcdraco2189

Ай бұрын

@@simonsaysrewind I've been attacked for pointing this out. But I've seen more experts coming out of the shadows here casting doubt on his telling of the story, including a psychologist and a lawyer. It's so pathetic that people take the side of a character that's based on a real person written by that person. Sorry had to edit this to fix my typo. A good example is JFK by Oliver Stone. It's based on true story but also utter bollocks.

@mysticjen379

Ай бұрын

💯 correct OP. Not a great deal of critical thinking I’ve noticed too! Quite a few people getting the massively embelllished and criminally convicted character mixed up with the real and unconvicted person to whose detriment it has allegedly been. Of course she’s going to recognise her own personal story even if it has been massively added to in the fiction.

@Kaytemplerose

Ай бұрын

@@marcdraco2189I’m genuinely concerned about his ability to remember so much about her from 10 years ago, for Jessica to get it so spot on. And that he knows exactly what she looks like now. And that he made a series that made millions hate her, and included in that series a way of easily tracing her. I don’t think she’s the current problem.

I don't know how this is so controversial. They'd have an IP address for the emails. And she'd have a criminal record. It's so easy to prove

Gadd also admitted to keeping her in his life and "using" her. It would be interesting to see his communication to her.

@mariannehavisham8323

Ай бұрын

For a short period of time, in the beginning, before it became sinister, while he was mentally unwell

@GG_11_11

Ай бұрын

​@@mariannehavisham8323The show depics him pursuing her after she backed off and slept with her. They were both mentally unwell

@Waveeee1004

Ай бұрын

@@GG_11_11that wasn’t real it was an obvious dream sequence

@Skaterbun

Ай бұрын

The victim is sometimes a willing enabler

@mariannehavisham8323

Ай бұрын

@GG_11_11 he never sleeps with her in the show. She sexually assaults him -different thing. It shows him panicking when she backs off, not pursuing her

If this does go to court and is televised it will be as big as the Jonny Depp Amber Turd case.

@LogicalVelocity

Ай бұрын

How would there be a case when she went on Piers Morgan and said that what was depicted wasn't her. No case.

@jmelight142

Ай бұрын

@@LogicalVelocity killjoy

@timeiswhat

Ай бұрын

listen I don't care about either side in that trial, but I've gotta tell you, calling her "Amber Turd" makes you sound like a child.

@jmelight142

29 күн бұрын

@@timeiswhat please elaborate? Giving her any semblance of respect by calling her Amber Heard seems redundant seeing the way she has behaved for the majority of her life. I can call her whatever I want and you sound more of a child by being upset by my terminology :(

As a lawyer she should know how to pronounce ‘hyperbole’ !

@JuliaKHoneyViolence

Ай бұрын

It tracks with the way the show portrayed her. Mispelling simple words, correctly spelling more difficult words. Hyper bowl...

@ApacheMagic

Ай бұрын

Yes

@mymai5859

Ай бұрын

Lol hyper bowl. That's right she came top of her class, can't remember her grades or what degree she has... yet has a photographic memory. She is pure evil making sure she has little attacks of Richard Gadd during the Piers interview - he is the victim. She's loving the attention.

@candicebuchanan4845

Ай бұрын

​@@mymai5859she said she wasn't top of the class but got good grades..couldn't remember what.

@gdaymates431

Ай бұрын

Yes and no. I'm dyslexic and misspell words constantly, and mispronunciation is part of that.

When she lies she closes her eyes.....

@chriselton723

Ай бұрын

She lies when open her mouth

@purpledeflector904

Ай бұрын

when you use ellipsis in this manner my armpit farts.

@sarahmitchell8385

Ай бұрын

I noticed this too, also she closed her eyes for longer, it almost felt she was also trying to keep her anger in check 😮

@paulfitness5157

Ай бұрын

She might be lying about certain things but if anything is untrue she has a case

@marcdraco2189

Ай бұрын

@@sarahmitchell8385 Roll out more Google neuroscientists. Jesus. People blink more rapidly under stress and we close our eyes to shut down some of the parts of our brain that process vision. This allows more brainpower to be diverted to recall, and yes lying but which is which and how much isn't clear from just looking at someone. I saw a guy accused of murdering his own child once because of the way he performed on television (badly). He was, as you might have guessed by now, totally innocent of any wrongdoing but that didn't stop all the fucking "armchair neuroscientists/psychologists and detectives from jamming the police hotline with "tips".

Now we need Richard Gadd himself to come forward with the name of his alledged rapist so that we can get that sick predator in jail so that no-one else is drugged and sexually assaulted him. That's a huge issue that I have not yet heard anyone address. How dare Richard Gadd NOT identify and charge the monster that supposedly did that evil thing to him?

@LogicalVelocity

Ай бұрын

Ya, I don't know how this is getting glossed over. Sure, her behaviour, stalking and sexual assault of him in the canal is huge. She's outted herself on our own accord. The rapist though is walking free under the protection of Gadd who won't come forward on who he is which is a crime. I agree that he deserves to be in jail.

@royaldivadeja6341

Ай бұрын

No pun intended but...He's not going after him because in some sick way he must have liked being assaulted and drugged by that man...!!!!! because what that man did to him in the movie is obviously wayyyy worse....than what the lady did....drugged and s a'd???? And he went back to that man's house to visit him after all he did to him??? Why?????? Now that's Crazy!!!!!!

@TamESQ

Ай бұрын

No, how fucking dare YOU tell someone how to deal with their trauma. If he doesn’t want to reveal his abuser, that’s his right.

@TamESQ

Ай бұрын

@@royaldivadeja6341Wow… so, the victim liked what happened to them? Shaming a victim for not naming their attacker as if Richard is the first person who has dealt with this. Millions of assault victims haven’t named their abusers. It’s so easy to judge, but they have their reasons.. and it’s not always an easy thing.

@LogicalVelocity

Ай бұрын

@@TamESQ Nobody is telling anyone how to deal with their trauma. Don't know where you pulled that out of anything that has been said here. If he doesn't want to say who it is, fine, but people can comment that he should if they feel that way. A rapist like that shouldn't be walking free. We're allowed to say that.

Sent from iphonn

@Andy246.

Ай бұрын

Getting old already

Her moaning while Pierce is asking her questions or making a point, is really off putting ( Piers 😂)

@ThatCoalSoul

Ай бұрын

Who's Pierce?

@DavidYoel13

Ай бұрын

@@ThatCoalSoul hahaha you’re right Piers

Why is she coming forward at all? It just seems to make her look guilty if anything

@mia_f

Ай бұрын

Her reputation obviously. She’s being dragged through the mud on a platform that doesn’t give her a fair opportunity. If he’s taken her to court that would have been a different situation

@ApacheMagic

Ай бұрын

Money.

@MG20024

Ай бұрын

Money and attention as she's a narcissist.

I feel sorry for her, hope she hasnt made a mistake exposing herself like this.

See for all we know she could be telling the truth! I’ll tell you why 41,000 emails for a year is around 112 emails a day, that is a lot of emails for one day. He was so obsessed for his career that he did go to the extremes of going back to that producer’s house knowing what he was doing to him. This could be a desperate claim to fame. Who knows 🤷‍♀️

@ruthgraham1142

Ай бұрын

Some were only one liner emails

@aprilodonnell2830

Ай бұрын

@@ruthgraham1142 yes that’s true. And she did harass the Daily Mail journalist with over 50 calls in a couple of hours. I think she isn’t well. But as Piers said she can sue them if they claim she went to jail and it’s not true. I think there could be a bit of fabrication on his side too

@ruthgraham1142

Ай бұрын

@@aprilodonnell2830 I think they can claim it’s a true story with some fabrication. She honestly did herself no favours with the interview 🤦‍♀️

@ruthgraham1142

Ай бұрын

@@aprilodonnell2830 I barely have time to work, house, cook , how the hell do you keep up these campaigns

@aprilodonnell2830

Ай бұрын

@@ruthgraham1142 well if the sexual assault at the canal is fabricated then she certainly can sue them. I know she did herself no favours as at first she said she only met him 2 to 3 times then it was 5 to 6 times at the end of the interview. I honestly think she isn’t well. But I do think Netflix has jumped on the bandwagon here too. He also was desperate for fame and kept going back to that producer whom he knew was a groomer and abuser. So that shows flaws in his character too where he was desperate to get fame. Is that was has been the driving force for this. The truth will come out in the end

The film is HIS side of the story. I'm convinced he took some "artistic liberties." Don't forget: he's the guy who would do almost anything for fame. He did almost nothing to hide "Martha's" true identity. This film feels at least partly like revenge. Not saying anything Fiona did was right, but she didn't deserve to be exposed and swatted. She needs help, not harassment. We could see 10 different versions of BR and still not get at the truth. Gadd and Harvey are both wrong in different ways and the truth always lies somewhere in the middle. Get in and get your coin for defamation and being exposed, girl.

@mysticjen379

Ай бұрын

It does almost seem like something an abusive ex partner would do to someone, I must admit. I don’t think he is entirely innocent.

@pjpredhomme7699

Ай бұрын

@@mysticjen379 No nor does he attempt to portray himself as being entirely innocent - that part comes through loud and clear.

@mysticjen379

Ай бұрын

@@pjpredhomme7699 I think you and many people are being far too generous with him. Nevertheless, hopefully the truth will come out and we’ll know for certain.

@PM-vd2fs

Ай бұрын

The one thing I don't get is why she went on Piers Morgan Uncensored. Surely employing a solicitor/lawyer to deal with it and make a statement on her behalf would have been more sensible. This interview didn't help her cause.

@mysticjen379

Ай бұрын

@@PM-vd2fs You could say the same about him though, couldn’t you. Why did he make it so public? Why didn’t he go to therapy? I think it he was going to put that out there (and play himself which I thought was strange) do little to hide her identity at least from herself if no one else, then she had the right of reply.

If he went to the Police, wouldn't they have them all on the evidence file?

@ThatCoalSoul

Ай бұрын

Oh bloody hell WATCH THE SHOW THE POLICE IGNORED HIM RE PEAT ED LY.

@MultiLlewis

Ай бұрын

​@@ThatCoalSoulthe show depicts her in court & being given a jail sentence ...that would have been as a result of a police prosecution

@sandytw5229

Ай бұрын

Gadd says he didn’t prosecute…

@sarahh8596

Ай бұрын

DO RESEARCH my god.

@medina4926

Ай бұрын

@@ThatCoalSoulthey still have records of it, i don’t think he went to the police imo. I believe he left it irl.

How could he have been on benefits if he worked in the pub? One minute she didn’t send a letter, then she sent a letter. She had 4/6 phones, who has that many?!

@davidmoore2308

Ай бұрын

Can you not work up to 16 hours and claim.

@suemoore9276

Ай бұрын

@@davidmoore2308 it wasn’t a dig at Richard, it was a sarcastic remark towards Fiona criticising Richard.

@jewelssunsun9450

Ай бұрын

​@davidmoore2308 that's for people with children, and people with disabilities, I believe. If he didn't have any dependants and was able to work, he would have been expected to work full-time, I would think.

@dscrerar1111

Ай бұрын

She is digging him up for working on the side 😮

Tit for tat. Don’t play stalking games without preparing to lose. She is not the victim here.

@pffffffffft406

Ай бұрын

Not the point.

@lulunz6809

Ай бұрын

Absolutely. I'm not sure why people are defending her. Regardless of what has caused her to act like she does, what she does is criminal, dangerous and seriously damaging. She has caused serious harm. If she was a male doing what she did, we would not be here. There is evidence of her stalking previously and her behaving in the ways portrayed in this series. I think Netflix would welcome their day in court.

@nilnil7325

Ай бұрын

We don't even know what the truth is yet. You just watched a film and decided you have all the facts which is ridiculous.

@humanbeing7624

Ай бұрын

She does not deserve to be bullied today for something she did 20 years ago. And I highly doubt they were all true.

@kendald8099

Ай бұрын

@@humanbeing7624he protected her identity by altering details and changing her name. He owes he nothing more. She is the one who went public and is saying she is the real life woman who the character portrays. SHE did that.

Very strange that the issues are about the harassment. Why is there no out cry about the identity of the man who Gad depicts to have groomed, dagged him, and raped him numerous times. Why is no one concerned that he is still out there and how strange Gard went back to him at the end of the show. The sexual assault and abuse needs to be a concern for all.....

This woman is very unwell. We don’t need to debate whether she’s lying or not it’s beyond clear she is.

totally contradicted herself

@coolhand1966

Ай бұрын

rubbish

I think the difference between “this is a true story” and “this is based on a true story” is something that could be sued. We know without relying on Fiona that her having a previous stalking prison sentence and her having one from stalking Gadd is not true. Gadd said he disguised the character so much they wouldn’t recognise themselves, they’re both fat Scottish women claiming to be lawyers, there was no care in disguising the superficial details, what he changed were the more serious allegations. It’s likely she sent thousands of emails but she wasn’t a the threat he made out.

@vacanlient

Ай бұрын

It’s a TV show: they can call it true, or based on true and lie all the way. It’s Licentia Poetica

@mysticjen379

Ай бұрын

Exactly - stating inspired by real events at the start and then say if they’d used a skinny blonde who was French or German or something, and he met her in Paris where *she* was the one working in the bar, that would have made it a lot less obvious. Also maybe not starring in it himself…I thought that was weird!

@mysticjen379

Ай бұрын

@@vacanlientI’m not sure they can rely on that here!

Let’s say when she first meets this bartender and he recognizes this woman’s need to have love and kindness shown to her. But he exploits that. He is picturing this Netflix show in the end.

@joanannewallace

Ай бұрын

She made his life a living hell and not just his life.

She clearly has a disorder. He never said who she was. If she's not a stalker, why does she say it's her?

@katjaxxx7353

Ай бұрын

And why she would not watch it? I want to know excactly what is going on?

@tereseday4060

Ай бұрын

@@katjaxxx7353 Yes, why would she sue over something she's never seen?

@pjpredhomme7699

Ай бұрын

It only took literally minutes for people to do a little sleuthing and were able to identify her as Martha. Part of her having a personality disorder is - she does not think she has or is the problem. It is a good example of how people have been using these diagnoses - like a personality disorder - rather loosely - when in fact they are fairly rare . Chances are this lady has a full on disorder. It does not take a whole lot of conversation to get the overwhelming sense that something is not right there.

Even if she sues and wins, Netflix would have to pay few million. Meanwhile they made much more on the show. It’s a risk worth taking

It doesn't make sense. If she didn't do anything portrayed on the show, what makes her think that the show was based on her interactions with Gadd? If people harassed her accusing her of being real life Martha, she should have just said "you're wrong, it certainly wasn't based on me". Instead she appeared live and made an interview CONFIRMING that she is real life Martha. Nowhere in the show it's mentioned that Fiona Harvey has anything to do with the story. As far as I'm aware, she can't even prove she's real life Martha. She's exposing herself at her own will and wants to blame Gadd and the series for it. I seriously doubt she's gonna win any case against Gadd and Netflix. It may turn out even worse for her if actual proof of the things she supposedly did appear in court. If the judgement is open to the public, it's gonna be embarrassing

It would also be great for the punters and bar staff to be interviewed on their perspectives of what they saw and heard. That would bring light to the situation. As long as they aren't bribed by netflix or this richard gadd of course.

She is changing the story every time she opens her mouth...she didn't write, she wrote one mail, a handfull. The fact that she was already involved in smilar stories tells more than enought.

True to the character portrayed in the show, she’s come forward doing interviews wanting the attention. She starts saying she didn’t send anything, then she didn’t send that many, then she says "even if that was true…" 🤨

I hope she does sue. She deserves privacy which the Netflix show has robbed her of. The UK has very different rules about defamation. It's nearly impossible to prove in USA.

@stephiegetsit

Ай бұрын

Perhaps he's just another Jesse smollet. We will eventually all find out

Well, Netflix also called a 80% fiction sprinkled with 20% of facts, like "Cleopatra - African Queen" - a "documentary". Egypt sued them. What happened to that suit thus far escaped my radar (or nobody talks about it).

@mia_f

Ай бұрын

Yeah true what happened to that? 🤔

@vacanlient

Ай бұрын

Egypt sued? What did Cleopatra have to do with modern Egypt?

@cashkitty3472

Ай бұрын

Probably settled out of court to save face like they will with this

@BlackQback

Ай бұрын

@@vacanlient Well, some countries cherish their history and don't like to see it distorted by foreigners with an agenda.

@Theberrychica

Ай бұрын

Isn’t Egypt in Africa?

He already back peddled by saying it is 100% emotionally true

Let's face it, the lady is owed money. Whatever and whoever she is, the guy made a fortune off her. Who used who? And everyone knows how popular this series is and became. She has every right to sue for every penny. The writer could have drastically changed her appearance and quotes so it's a no brainer for anyone to find her, the real "basis". My sister manically will write thousands of messages to people off her phones etc some people do that. It doesn't really matter if the series is "true" and "oh she is really like that" the point is that there is no mistaking the likeness, the easily researched quotes and the profits he made exploiting her. She is owed money and Netflix should be paying her BIG time. Good for her for making herself public because it goes to show how close the likeness is. No one got HER permission to tell HER story. She should write her own series about this guy. I enjoyed the show but let's face it, he took loads of drugs, he played both sexes, he is "likeable" so what? He egged her on in many ways.

Richard Gadd said the real Martha would not recognise herself, so it feels so odd that she would be so similar.

@timeiswhat

Ай бұрын

I don't think she's actually all that similar. Her personality comes off pretty different from Martha's (aside from the delusions, not really a unique trait), and it's also not an identifying feature to be Scottish. As for her build, from the few pictures you can find of her online in the past, it looked like she used to be quite a bit lighter - I think they just picked Jessica Gunning because she's phenomenal. However, it IS weird that they used word-for-word tweets that you can apparently still find online.

@pathfinder6993

29 күн бұрын

I watched the interview, he's right she refuses to see herself in that actress playing her

@teejay8258

28 күн бұрын

@@pathfinder6993 oh, of course. I never thought of it as refusing to see it, more that she would be unable to (due to physical differences).

But wikipedia says that she was sentenced to 5 months in prison. Is that not true then?

@mysticjen379

Ай бұрын

No it’s apparently not.

This should all be easy enough to prove. Also, what about speaking to the witnesses, like the people who worked with Gadd, his parents, and the police where he filed harassment complaints? Poor woman, she's obviously got much bigger issues than this.

@MG20024

Ай бұрын

Why poor woman? He's the real victim here. Would you say the same if it was a man stalking a woman?

@careena8242

Ай бұрын

@@MG20024, when I said 'issues', I was referring to her mental state. Even if I hadn't been being ironic in my use of the term 'poor woman', I still have compassion for people who are clearly mentally unwell. I didn't suggest that it excused her behaviour.

Omg. Come on! 🙄 She sent him nothing? I highly doubt it. He has a right to speak about his experience and trauma. He didn't make himself out to be a prince or totally free of responsibility. He admitted to a lot of shame and serious trauma. He didn't paint himself as an angel. Actually, he didn't paint her as a total villain either. They were careful to humanize her. They made sure we understood she was also a victim and broken.. I don't think he had any nefarious intentions. It took a lot of courage to show all of his trauma. AND She wouldn't be getting as much harassment if she privatized her social media and stopped yelling from the hilltops, " im Martha,look at me, im the main character."if this is all a fabricator, why are a lot of her harrasing tweets and posts still up.

@jchang76

Ай бұрын

Right. First, she says nothing, then, it's "a handful!" RIGHT, lady. I don't believe a word she says.

@sarahh8596

Ай бұрын

I agree so much

If ANY of it is NOT true then she definitely has a case, especially as she was so easy to find. I doubt if it will get to court. I'm pretty sure there will be an out of court settlement.

Even if she was guilty of some of it, if she hasn’t been convicted in a court of law and the public wouldn’t otherwise have been able to find out anything about her I think Gadd and Netflix still had some sort of responsibility towards her. I also find it creepy that in the show he follows her home after they first meet, and peers through her window - something she vehemently denies happened. Surely she would say that it did happen, if she were truly obsessed with him? He’d better be able to solidly back up his claims because he sounds like the obsessed one! I know most people are against her, but I’m trying to see both sides here. The transparency of the show in regard to her identity, and in the absence of any conviction or proof, is going to be a real problem for Gadd.

I get people like the show but I don’t understand why people immediately take the side of the show and want to publicly shame this person. They don’t know Gadd, they don’t know Fiona, they don’t know the facts, they weren’t there, they don’t have access to any emails, there’s no evidence of her going to prison……yet they believe the show like it’s gospel and are going for the jugular with this woman. Death threats? This is madness. What’s the deal?

@mysticjen379

Ай бұрын

💯

@STORMDAME

26 күн бұрын

We only have her word for it that there have been death threats. As far as I know she's not shown any receipts to that effect.

@mysticjen379

26 күн бұрын

@@STORMDAME True. We can also say the same about him though. For starters, there’s no evidence she was ever convicted.

@STORMDAME

26 күн бұрын

@@mysticjen379 Absolutely.

@mysticjen379

26 күн бұрын

@@STORMDAME Cheers. It’s all a bit mad isn’t it!

The thing for me is that the actress not only looked, sounded and acted like her, but also typed like the supposed tweets of hers from 2014. I’ve seen a lot of people saying she outed herself, when clearly she didn’t I was well aware of who Fiona was within about 10 minutes of finishing the show and I’ve not made a single attempt to look for who any of them are, but for the actress to have nailed so much about this woman without ever seeing or meeting her at all is either sublime acting, highly coincidental, or gadd has made an obvious attempt to portray this woman, in which case she has a right to completely defend herself. The onus is now on gadd to provide receipts or unfortunately in my opinion he’s going to be seen as the exaggerator here. I think it’s pretty sickening that most people watched this show and are more angered by the character who stalks gadd and clearly has mental illnesses over the man who LITERALLY drugged and Gr@ped him. Why were people bothered by who ‘Martha’ is and people aren’t as hell bent on finding ‘darrien’ to me, one needs medicating the other needs arresting and it’s blatantly obvious which one. Court of public opinion strikes again.

@cwells5576

Ай бұрын

Completely agree, some salient points there. I couldn't get my head around that he reported a mentally ill woman to the police (which appears to be a lie) and not a potentially career advancing rapist.

@jordanbrooks4834

Ай бұрын

@@cwells5576 100% he seems like he knew exactly what he was doing. Interested to see if the actor looks or sounds ANYTHING like the rapist, like was he trying to actually conceal his identity or did he get it as close as possible for both?

@cwells5576

Ай бұрын

@@jordanbrooks4834 Oh I bet the actual rapist looks nothing like the actor. Why hasn't he been reported to the police, he's allowing this man to carry on his assaults on someone else. If it's even true!

@Nat_Ash_A

Ай бұрын

@@cwells5576tbf we don’t even know if the male abuser is real or not. Gadd has already said that Martha did not attack the gf as they didn’t meet. What else is made up?

@tereseday4060

Ай бұрын

​@@cwells5576People online have said who he is.

There's no reason for all this did she / didn't she nonsense. In the show she even went to court. That and the emails etc are all things that can be easily proved or disproved. If she didn't do the things they claimed she did, she has a case and would likely win it. It's not a crime to tweet someone, email them and send texts. But there's a big difference between normal interaction and harassment and again, it can be easily proved. Someone needs to just do the research and settle it.

That media lawyer must get paid by the word. Why use 100 words when you make a point. Use thousands instead.

Netflix has a disclosure at the end of every episode that says, "This programs based on real events: however certain characters, names, incidents, locations, and dialogue has been fictionalized for dramatic purposes". Her nephew has come froward claiming she did serve prison time. And now a British politician has come forward with 178 threatening emails from her.

Excuse me but didn't she out herself - SHE MAY NOT BE THE MARTHA - Richard Gadd hasn't said it was her. She has inserted herself into the story.

@jasminejasmine8793

Ай бұрын

People found her on internet because of the tweets we see in the show have been found on Fiona's twitter account.

@zexoo4538

Ай бұрын

People worked out it was her,she came forward to have her say. It will be interesting to see how this goes, I'm not saying she hasn't done anything but has it all been exaggerated?! Richard is hardly Mr sane himself.

Gadd has over dramatised to line his pockets, however both, have played each other in my view.

I think she has a good case and I think she's going to win

If his story is true, the trauma this woman caused him would be unimaginable. If it is true, it would have taken great courage for Gadd to relive it all. Fiona had no need to do an interview with Piers Morgan. She could easily have removed herself from social media ... long ago. She comes across as more Martha than "Martha".😢

@Nat_Ash_A

Ай бұрын

People were calling her house and how long would it be before they turn up at her home? She had no choice but to address it before it got worse. No matter what she does or say, she has been judged as a violent stalker. How would you cope with the whole word against you?

@ragetobe

Ай бұрын

If you cannot see the clear contractions between the two interviews (that I’ve seen) that she makes then you are not informed, watch the interviews in full as she Denys one thing to admit it later. She is on a money grab and it’s that simple, the worst part is, she knows the laws and danced around it like a pro. She is a living nightmare, I met a person like her once, she terrified me and I’m a big guy.

@1949Matilda

Ай бұрын

@@Nat_Ash_A SHE SAYS that is what has happened. Is there any proof of what she is saying? She "outed" herself very quickly, it seems.

The fact they know there are circa 41,000 emails received shows that they have been downloaded from the server and stored already.

@W1LL.F

Ай бұрын

Agreed but in fairness we haven’t seen any screenshot of any email. Just taking Richard on his word

@anthonymartyn5590

Ай бұрын

If she didn't make his life hell in the past,she certainly will now if he has made this up and if he was raped he needs to go to the police

@mia_f

Ай бұрын

@@anthonymartyn5590😂😂 totally

@waffleswhisky2203

Ай бұрын

That’s 4.6 emails an hour, 24/7 for a whole year. Now that’s a commitment

@Hajduk-Kralj

Ай бұрын

@@waffleswhisky2203it’s possible though? If you and me sent me a comments it wouldn’t take long to reach that number plus being a crazy person 😂

Netflix should be held accountable. However, when companies say it’s a true story, they should be mandated by law to give credits to that person. If you hide it, you got crazy people who will claim rights for a small amount. Then the companies get away with wrong doing.

@midnightnavigator

Ай бұрын

You know they have a disclaimer in the credits that state some things in the show were changed or dramatized, right? And gadd admits this openly. They didn't say, "Everything is 100% accurate and correct exactly as it says in the show," So it's really no different than saying "based on a true story" it's just sneaker but not against the law.

@godschild6172

Ай бұрын

@@midnightnavigator Yes they say that to say so they take away a persons rights to the products. It’s one thing to say this is what we want to do. However, when you cause harm purposely trying to get a freebie then you deserve high authorities to take over and create additional laws especially to prevent further harm when one is mentally ill. They like to exploit mentally ill because people don’t believe what’s happening to them. That BS and it needs to stop.

This is fantastic. If not true she will rake it in from Netflix 😂

Imagine being stalked and not having the right to write a book or create a series like this because the stalker might try and sue? If I have to live it I reserve the right to do what I want after that.

She has a case, Gadd has admitted the prison term for previous stalking is made up.

@vacanlient

Ай бұрын

It’s a TV show, he can invent whatever he wants

@dav147

Ай бұрын

@@vacanlient not when it is depicted in the credits as a true story.

@jewelssunsun9450

Ай бұрын

​@@dav147The end credits say it’s been dramatised apparently.

Pierce Morgan mentioned that she has already bombarded the daily mail by calling them over 50 times. let’s just say it’s starting up all over again and hopefully she’ll leave alone. Sadly, I think she’s gonna go after Pierce Morgan now and of course Neil of the daily mail. She has nothing else to do.

@MG20024

Ай бұрын

She's a classic narcissist.

@susien7323

Ай бұрын

@@MG20024 I wouldn’t poke that bear 🐻 we haven’t seen the last of her. If she gets cast on a really show, she’ll have a new set of victims

Mr. Gadd did this as a play at least 4-years ago, check with Google, there are reviews, so he has had plenty of time to hone his writing and screenplay; where was she during all this time?

At this point, the detective force is at jeopardy 😂 These online sleuths are really really good..

If she didn't go to court then jail, then the whole story has been embellished to represent something that on the whole is extremely boring. If the story reflected the reality that she wasn't prosecuted then there really was no basis for a series in the first place as I am sure there are many more credible stalking experiences that have occurred to people with a tangible, credible outcome that would be worth making a series out of. More worrying is the fact that they have outed a 'stalker ', when in fact the real story should have been Gadd being raped, returning for more, his struggle with his sexuality and the eventual prosecution of his rapist. I find it all quite bizarre and lacking in any real credibility. I fear there are lies on both fronts. Pure sensationalism to make a few quid. This story was more fantastical than Forrest Gump.

Where is Darren? That is the question nobody is asking.

Omg what trolls leave her alone, she didn’t go to jail she didn’t want to be in the spot light

@nutcracker2916

Ай бұрын

So why has she been constantly mentioning Gadd and a woman who previously mentioned her stalking her. On her public social media, if she doesn't wan't to be in the spotlight ?

@funhold565

Ай бұрын

If she did not go to jail then Netflix shouldn’t claim it as based on a true story. I think it is between them and the individual would know that it is her that he is trying to make out as a villain. She would know and she has the personal right to sue them if majority of it was a lie. Unless, he comes out and disclose who it is and he fully denies that it wasn’t this person. If it is true that it is her and he fabricated the stories against her just to be “famous” or any other vendetta he got, THEN HE IS TO BLAME and most likely a PSYCHOPATH. If in case, this person is on the right side, I’m not going to be surprised. If not, then good. A psychopath loves to play the victim then scapegoat it to the actual victim, I have experienced this myself. They know the power of gaining people’s sympathy and the power of SOCIAL MEDIA. It is an actual attempt of the real villain to ostracize and isolate the real victim. In switching the roles, the fastest way- social media, it’s like “toxic shame” passing it onto you, the fastest way to destroy someone. I am only sharing the POSSIBILITY but if all his stories are true then he gained my admiration because I liked his artistic expression of an abstract pain of a life.

@mysticjen379

Ай бұрын

@@funhold565This is my thinking too. What he’s doing strikes me as almost like something a resentful, abusive ex partner would do. You’ll know what I mean by that, I think, given what you say about your own experiences.

Why didn't Gad just say it was based on a true story instead of all true.

@parmaunited

Ай бұрын

He probably should have written in the All persons fictitious disclaimer. "Any resemblance to actual events or locales or persons, living or dead, is entirely coincidental". I think even biopics (despite being "true" stories) have this clause just to avoid any legal strife if they dont get the story exactly right (as there are always oversights or different first hand memory of a story that can be warped a bit).

@snookoed

Ай бұрын

@@parmaunited Yes. Exactly! Seems so strange that he didn't do that.

@parmaunited

Ай бұрын

@@snookoed I just had a look through the credits of Baby Reindeer. It does however say "This program is based on real events: however certain characters, names, incidents locations and dialogue have been fictionalized for dramatic purposes." Maybe that is enough (although the wording doesnt sound as strong as the all persons fictitious statement). Plus it contradicts the "this is a true story" sentence.

@midnightnavigator

Ай бұрын

​@parmaunited omg thank you! So many people miss this and it drives me nuts.

No she can’t sue because she said multiple times in her interview “it couldn’t have been me”. That and she contradicts everything she says. And she was never named!

@rosemcginnis914

Ай бұрын

She is not a good speaker, I think what she was trying to say that the character in the series does such outlandish things that it could not possibly be me, but they use her personna to create this outlandish character. Fiona is neurodivergent and slightly autictic, as far as I can see. Her speech patterns match to high functioning autistic individuals.

All Gadd and Netflix had to do was print the disclaimer that it was based on a true story but some characters and dialogue has been fictionalised for dramatic purposes. For whatever reason, they didnt, so the burden of proof will be on them if she takes it to court. He better have 41000 emails, he better have witnesses that she stood for days outside his house and witnesses to his girlfriends attack. Its entirely possible he based Martha on Fionas unusual personality without it being 100% factual and that is when it becomes libelous. We dont know but she could be a very successful lawyer, quirky or not and people pointing the finger at HER being Wartha will have been extremely damaging. She isnt playing the system at all if Gadd has no proof that A stalker did the things he said they did. And in choosing an actress that looks and sounds like Fiona HE made Fiona recognisable to the public. If he has all the proof, she will never be able to pay the court costs and damages they would be so high, and as a lawyer she will know that

i cant wait for her to sue them....how about calling out the rapist? thats why its weird....

Well IF Fiona does indeed go ahead with her threats to sue then she will need to build her case supporting her claims.. She denied any harassment and any past run ins with the law so IF she is telling the truth then there will be no evidence off the harassment etc... Otherwise it will add to her embarrassment if all the evidence indeed proves the validity of the show!

All this 'interview' has achieved is to convince everybody that, this woman, is indeed, 'Martha'...

@judithwilber2540

Ай бұрын

really? have you polled everyone that watched? youre as bad the the rest of the people who assume they know the facts..id say she isnt totally telling the truth but the extreme of it has been exaggerated and i believe if she can produce her side of emails etc...she would win

@josarge4691

Ай бұрын

@@judithwilber2540 I don't argue with strangers on the internet. That would just be weird

Well , where is the GIRLFRIEND? Was she attacked? Was “Martha” charged but not convicted? Why didn’t Netflix say “based on a true story”? Where is the digital footprint of 40K texts or emails? Is this story a compilation of real life events involving multiple experiences? The two of these characters have “issues” and that’s pretty obvious. What exactly can you believe when the guy admits to being drugged out of his head? Crazy behavior or not, this woman has a legal right to defend herself.

Has anyone outed the male character that was the abuser?

It sounds like Fiona has a credible potential claim for liabel here, and if I were her Lawyer, I'd be recommending a settlement as a % of the revenue generated by the series, and we'd be looking at a 7 figure sum.

@vacanlient

Ай бұрын

It’s a TV show. It doesn’t have to be factual.

@jonnyrocket3659

Ай бұрын

@@vacanlient if it claims to be a true story then it should be, otherwise they open themselves up to a liabel case

@vacanlient

Ай бұрын

@@jonnyrocket3659 again it’s a TV show. They can say it is true story and invent everything from the scratch.

The way I see it. Richard hasn't made himself out to be 100% innocent, in fact, in the series , hes made himself look like an idiot, he encouraged her, he kept contact with her , and apparently slept with her. Fiona, however, has made herself out to be whiter than white, very innocent, yet has told numerous lies in the interview, or shall we say, .contradictory slip ups.. Richard, by admitting his mistakes comes across , far more believable than someone who denies everything and implies they've done no wrong.

@AuntyEsther

Ай бұрын

The sex was fantasy.

I smell a sequel…..

im confused bc in tweets where she talks about gadd and the curtains it dates back to 2014 but the show says it starts 2015?

Even if she was a stalker 15 years ago, she shouldnt have to go through this harassment. She's getting death threats.They are both lying. He lied and over exaggerated to make the story more interesting and she's minimizing the story to save face. What ever the case, what he has done to her now is way worse. He didnt even need to say it was based on a true person. Didn't consider her livelihood and safety one bit. He should have gone after the rap1st instead.

@nutcracker2916

Ай бұрын

A male stalking a young woman wouldn't get as much sympathy.

@florenceandrews2526

Ай бұрын

@@nutcracker2916this!

@florenceandrews2526

Ай бұрын

@@nutcracker2916and let’s not forget the sexual assault in the canal too

@AL-nv4gk

Ай бұрын

Any proof of these threats or just immediately believe the sob story?

@Shearose88

Ай бұрын

@AL-nv4gk any proof of these s3xual Assualts, physical attacks or Jail sentences,or did you just blindly believe everything Gadd said??

It may come down to the difference between "true story" and "based on a true story".

Hold stalkers accountable. Stalking is a CRIME!!! Stalkers lie because they know full well what they are doing is WRONG!! They are hoping the public is both sympathetic and gullible.

"Reputation"?!?! She did not own ANY respactable reputation! She had already stalked and bullied other people heavily. She has always been a dreadful aggressive person.

Frankly, I think Richard Gadd is seriously mentally twisted. He needs help as much as she does, in my opinion

@mysticjen379

Ай бұрын

💯 My opinion too.

Since "Fargo" starting with "This is a true story" and it is not, tons of movies say "This is a true story".

@WillOnWheels

Ай бұрын

Was going to say this. No one battered an eye lid when Fargo did it but now it’s a problem 🙄 and let’s not even talk about the abuser because that’s not important 🤦🏻‍♂️ I hope Gadd counter sues.

@noneyabizz8337

Ай бұрын

​@WillOnWheels well, Fargo is an absolute fake story. There's no one that's going to sue them.

@pauldale4359

Ай бұрын

If u watch return of the living dead from the 80s that’s says it based on true story lol

@sarawashington5485

Ай бұрын

LOVE FARGO❤❤❤❤❤😂😂😂😂😂😂

@MarcoRaaphorst

Ай бұрын

In Fargo it was a joke. Here it is a huge mistake.

This entire story is getting so out of hand. The vast majority of people are against "Martha" so I wouldn't be surprised if at any moment she shows up dead by suicide.

I doubt this series was as truthful as it was portrayed, if the main character is regarding a Martha I thought that they needed to get paid, after all the movie is about her.

Fiona has had threats from idiots and they should be punished not Netflix. Fiona outed herself because there are many people that look like the actress I'm sure.

stalkers neverstop.they just find another victim. there has to be other people shes done this to.