The empty track sound is an iconic sound. I love that roar it gives it just makes me smile lol

Empty track is better. Love that sound

@koharaisevo3666

5 жыл бұрын

LOL. People living nearby have different opinion.

@mme725

5 жыл бұрын

People living nearby should have thought twice about moving smack next to a theme park!

@mounne13

5 жыл бұрын

@@mme725 urban sprawl and population density cares not for common sense.

@mal2ksc

5 жыл бұрын

@mme725 The second park, Knott's Berry Farm, was originally what it says -- a berry farm famous for its pies and fruit preserves. The amusement park was built to entertain customers while they waited for pies (and fried chicken too, I think), and it ended up becoming the primary business. The store that sells pies is still there, but they don't grow the berries on site any longer. Anyhow, the point is that in their case, the city was already there, and they bought two city blocks and built on them. It's a little like Disneyland that way, only worse (they're in the same general area but Disneyland is several times the size).

@WaveManMike

5 жыл бұрын

They had to change it because of Leviathan. When it released there were too many noise complaints so they started filling the tracks with sand.

here after the video presentation that failed to compare the two sounds.

@AntonioNoack

5 жыл бұрын

same :D

@mepholies

5 жыл бұрын

Kaliche same

@puppyluv1luv

5 жыл бұрын

lolll same

@dskilla4142

4 жыл бұрын

Idk why this is so funny. 😭 Everybody is really the same.

@FrIeDeGgS887

4 жыл бұрын

Must be deaf...

I loved the sound of the empty one but was amazed how much quieter the filled one is and you were so much closer to it. The filled one must require a lot more structural supports. It must be some kind of kiln dried sand inside or something. Great job 👍

@tonyisreal446

4 жыл бұрын

They made the filled track quieter because Knott's is in a residential area.

@ThunderDashHub

3 жыл бұрын

It depends on the density of the sand itself that's used to quiet the roar.

@wickedphant0m

3 жыл бұрын

@@tonyisreal446 More likely it's because the coaster is so close to two different entertainment venues plus goes over the horse trail.

@TheLightningStalker

3 жыл бұрын

It's way heavier with the sand so they have to use more support towers and/or slow down the ride and it can affect the longevity of the ride.

@tomchavez2074

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheLightningStalker shouldn’t they not put sand then to keep longevity? I don’t understand why they would fill up sand just to dampen sound if it would save them money.

A coaster should sound like a screaming daemon from hell.

@icytrash

5 жыл бұрын

It sounds really cool

@ilya8914

5 жыл бұрын

Daemon

@BaBooTubeVideos

5 жыл бұрын

Daemons just kinda hang around and give you advice. They don't scream.

@jasonn426ex

5 жыл бұрын

Ikr

An empty track B&M sounds like a low-flying fighter jet - Monster at Walygator Park is extremely loud, both off-ride and on-ride! This clone of Cedar Points "Raptor" might not look very nice, but the lack of a mid-course brake run makes this ride very intense - it's awesome!

You can hear the sand lol

@JDdaFilmer

5 жыл бұрын

An Otaku I heard some fall too 😂😂😂😂

@garywinthrope1259

5 жыл бұрын

@@JDdaFilmer ... you heard sand fall....

I honestly love the B&M humm and think it's a beautiful part of a park experience

For years I only knew the pretty much dead silent filled track from Black Mamba at Phantasialand. In 2017 I got hear my first screaming B&M in the form of Monster at Walygator Parc, which is the Mid Course Brake run lacking clone of Cedar Points Raptor, and that day I fell in love with the roaring sound.

@mattstrap9422

4 жыл бұрын

You have to hear Kumba from Busch Gardens Tampa. The roar is so loud and actually hurts your ears XD.

@shawntaylor2937

4 жыл бұрын

Especially when you enter the tunnel

@BassGuitarSlide

Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, Monster at Walygator is the loudest coaster I ever experienced: You can hear that mighty roar over the entire park and when standing near Monster, it sounds like a fighter jet flying low - it's impressive 🤘🏻

Nobody: Me watching KZread at 2:00 AM:

@Houtarou_Hyouka_Unforgiven

4 жыл бұрын

Rollet coaster expert also watch meme

The empty track defiantly wins.

@liljdub08

3 жыл бұрын

definitely*

afterburn at carowinds is so loud you can hear it all over the park its great. can even hear it over fury and intimidator

Nemesis at Alton Towers in the UK is in a valley so the whole thing resonates even more, if they ever filled the track with sand it would be the beginning of the end for the ride.

@NEVAstopGAMER

5 жыл бұрын

I could believe it. Raptor sits on a flat peninsula of land, and it is audible from the cabins at the back for the park, which is a solid mile away.

@visionist7

5 жыл бұрын

They better not dare touch my main man Nemesis

@SlopedOtter

4 жыл бұрын

Nemesis keeps its noise pretty contained, but when you're in the queue and you're down in the hole with it, it is ridiculous 😂😂 Imagine being in the hole when an oblivion train goes past

@ryan_n05

4 жыл бұрын

SlopedOtter They would have to provide ear protection if the queue for Oblivion went in the tunnel 😂

@connormachin151

2 жыл бұрын

Well 2 years later its having a complete retrack with filled with sand.

Rip nemesis

Nothing, and I mean nothing, gets me more excited for a park visit than hearing that beautiful B&M roar from the parking lot.

Great Bear’s is very unique it changes throughout the experience especially the straight track before the Immelmann

gotta love the b&m invert sounds 👌👌

That is such a satisfying sound!

Empty track is the best I swear in person empty B&M track sounds so good

There is quite a difference between the 2. Very interesting.

I love the empty tracks roar

Some B&Ms are made to be loud even with a filled track, the parks want riders to be intimidated by the sound or the sound matches the ride theme. For example The Incredible Hulk at Universal was made to be loud to represent The Hulks roar. Ride theme example being Afterburn at Caroeinds, originally called Top Gun (movie) the trains are supposed to sound like a Jet.

@BRISTOLFORCE2009

Жыл бұрын

That’s how I think of Medusa at great adventure

very nice comparison!

I love the unfilled track sound.

an example of what Nemesis is gonna sound like next year 🙁

It’s so soothing

Love the B&M roar!

It’s supposed to roar

Amazing Roar

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the sound difference between Silver Bullet and Raptor is also (mostly ?) created by the type of wheels those two rides are using : nylon for Raptor, polyurethane for Silver Bullet. Nylon wheels are more rigid and are consequently noisier.

Man i remember hearing that sound when i first went so cedar point 7 years ago.

i love the roar

EMPTY TRACK WHOS WITH ME!!!!

Oh that heavenly roar... gonna put it as my alarm clock..

The first time I really noticed the suppressed sound was at seaworld Orlando's Manta and Kraken. The wheel covers suppressed a lot of noise compared to my home park in Illinois batman the ride which is fairly loud. But nothing comes close to Kumba in the b&m family tree

I love the B&M roar

Filing the track really just neutered how the ride sounds. Gatekeeper and Valravn are both filled and you can't even hear them over Raptor.

the empty track sounds like a damn hurricane

The filled track almost sounds broken. It's not a smooth sound at all.

@NEVAstopGAMER

5 жыл бұрын

ride quality wise there is not much of a difference. the "filled" coaster however is 10 years newer, around the time B&M started making rides a bit less snappy and more graceful, but they really don't track or ride any different.

@mal2ksc

5 жыл бұрын

The filled coaster is also part of an astonishingly small amusement park in the middle of a major suburban area. It's not even like people moved in after the park, the city was there first. Noise ordinances apply, and they have to shut down earlier than many other places (say, Disneyland or Six Flags Magic Mountain) that have a little bit of isolation between their noise and the city beyond. It's silent or nothing, unless they want to move the entire place.

@matthewclark4510

5 жыл бұрын

Jesusdragon737 I get what your saying as in it’s a almost to muffled definitely would agree it should be muffled but not sound proofed all the way...to the point where it’s rides way different then it looks and sounds.

It seems like filled up B&M is more quiet than the ones that empty. No wonder empty B&Ms like Montu at Tampa Florida makes a roar sound.

Empty is less expensive and more epic but I can understand the need for a quiet track to avoid mass noise complaints depending on a parks location.

Sadly nemesis at alton towers is soon to be silenced by the sand treatment

I remember whenever I was like 6 I went to universal and I was at my hotel's pool and the hulk ride sounded like thunder and it scared me so much

I’m gonna miss Nemesis roar 🥹

@ShowaShorts63

Жыл бұрын

same 😔

Wow this is a huge difference

Empty it all!

Dragon khan has the best roar in Europe and it could be heard from the entrance

B&m has the best sounding coasters. Like a roar.

You can tell the age of a B&M by whether it has a roar or a whoosh

The track is probably filled because it's at knotts. Close to homes and businesses. The cedar point track is far away from anything, so it doesn't matter how much noise it makes. I guess parks try not to spend money on the sand to fill the track

chile i just came here ro tell yall that silver bullet will get u dizzy as fuck i rode that shit when i was 13/14 n i never been dizzy on a rollercoaster before but that shit shook my entire body to the core

The roar is awesome, but I prefer the sand filled so it doesn’t destroy your ears

Damn the difference is Insane

Whats the name of this coaster?

Imagine a lion that only purrs. Imagine putting Godzilla on mute. Imagine a rottweiler that just whimpers. The intimidating roar is half the bravado!

Great Bear is the loudest coaster in existence

@BRISTOLFORCE2009

Жыл бұрын

Nah I think Medusa at great adventure is

@BRISTOLFORCE2009

Жыл бұрын

It’s deafeningly loud

there aren't any nearby homes to Cedar Point. I kinda like the roar

The B&M roar is really loud, it's the same on Riddler's Revenge at Magic Mountain, they sound the exact same even though Riddler is a stand up coaster.

@BRISTOLFORCE2009

12 күн бұрын

Green Lantern was also like Raptor and was a standup

Empty track is do Relaxing

Most places will keep it empty but some places like Dorney park and I guess knots are filled with sand because of the neighboring communities

Raptor is also almost a decade older than Silver Bullet...

Omg raptor is fucking roarrrringggg 🤤

you should hear montu at bgt... so loud

Love the empty track sound, but I get that noise is an issue if your park is near houses.

Smiler sound be like

The hulk ride was probably filled after it was rebuilt because it doesn't really make sound

@ctg5679

4 жыл бұрын

DJ RKCR YT they did sadly

@ThrillsofColdplay

4 жыл бұрын

Yep it was very disappointing

@djrkcryt2568

4 жыл бұрын

Man i remember when i went on the first time in 2015, i miss the roaring sound it made, then 2016 hits and universal (or b&m) was like "let's put sand in it, i don't think anyone liked the sound"

@alexandrearsenault

4 жыл бұрын

@@djrkcryt2568 More weight --> more support --> more $$. So Universal wanted it quieter for some reason. We should still be glad that the coaster still exist. Not that many coaster had received a full retrack. This shows how great that coaster was and still is.

Empty gang

Is banshee empty or filled track?

@rollercoasterheaven2170

Жыл бұрын

I think it’s a bit of both it’s definitely not quiet like Talon and Silver Bullet and it’s not loud like Raptor and Great Bear

Empty track will always sound better.

I personally don’t like excessively loud rides like raptor. Quieter roars like steel vengeance has sound cooler

Raptor CEDAR POINT

@lolmattk

5 жыл бұрын

yea

That's a lot of sand.

You think Raptor is good, listen to Great Bear at Hersheypark, that thing is loud and makes a sound like a bear

Raptor isn't raptor without the empty track

i love the empty roar

This is also because of the nylon wheels, imagine raptor with polyurethane wheels... oh sh*t I just imagine... I’ll throw up right now 🤢🤮

They should fill the track with water

@MrDeeJayDaDJ

3 жыл бұрын

Water moves too much that would be terrible for the structural rigidity of the ride.

@JoshB333

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrDeeJayDaDJ was a joke

@ThrillsofColdplay

5 ай бұрын

How would that sound

I'll take filled track. The roar is cool for about 5 minutes then it gets on your nerves.

Silver bullet just doesn’t even sound right. If you’re gonna get a B&M, get the full package.

These sound the same, and that is because Silver Bullet uses the empty track. The Filled track was introduced by re-doing some parts of Leviathan, and B&M started using a slightly different track design by filling the rails with sand. The modern filled track was introduced in 2014, which was 10 years after Silver Bullet opened.

@NEVAstopGAMER

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe try watching again with sound on 😉

@pittsburghthrills1281

3 жыл бұрын

@@NEVAstopGAMER I watched with sound on. The difference is related to speed, i think. Silver Bullet doesn't have filled track.

@NEVAstopGAMER

3 жыл бұрын

@@pittsburghthrills1281 Defiantly not speed related. Nemesis at Alton towers is 5mph slower then Silver Bullet, but still sounds mean AF. 2014 was the first time retroactively filling B&M track, but they have been experimenting with filled track and supports from the factory since the 90's, using either a lightweight sand, foam, or gravel. In addition to Silver bullet, Medusa at SFDK in 2000, Talon in 01', Patriot at Worlds of Fun in '06, as well as parts of Gatekeeper in 13', All have filled track, and all have opened before 2014. Its not a new thing like the Engineering explained video would have you believe. Edit: Also, keep in mind that the recording setup i used to make this video was identical at booth parks: a Zoom h1n, with auto level on, no low cut, MP3 format, and the SP-TFB-2 in ear binaural mics. the ambient noise at Cedar point was MUCH louder, with the swelltones playing in the midway below, so even tho my video compares the sound, it doesn't capture how radically different they are in volume.

@spentron1

3 жыл бұрын

The first filled track was Alpengeist in 1997. I like noise, but the effect is eerie so sometimes cool.

The filled track isn’t really fun.

Eww filled track is so boring

Rode raptor twice. Worst roller coaster B&M has ever made.

@NEVAstopGAMER

3 жыл бұрын

Vortex at carowinds would like to have a word with you...