Azathoth is not the Supreme Being of the Cthulhu Mythos

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In this video I go over several characters from the Cthulhu Mythos, in particular Azathoth and explain why he should not be considered it's supreme being. As well as discussing his connections with Mana-Yood-Sushai and the place that Yog Sothoth fills in the verse in relation to Azathoth.
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  • @WebCamParrot
    @WebCamParrot2 жыл бұрын

    Working on a larger more comprehensive Cthulhu Mythos video at the moment but obviously that is going to take quite a bit more time to finish. Hopefully this is a nice taste of what to expect in the future though.

  • @Bone_guy

    @Bone_guy

    2 жыл бұрын

    🙀

  • @mckstellar1005

    @mckstellar1005

    2 жыл бұрын

    Here i was serching for your depths of the cthulhu verse video and it turns out you haven't made it yet lol.... thats what i get fpr jumping the gun

  • @lolxd3337

    @lolxd3337

    2 жыл бұрын

    Best of luck

  • @samuraiblack8840

    @samuraiblack8840

    2 жыл бұрын

    Praying for another marvel vs dc battle

  • @wolfjayyoon1138

    @wolfjayyoon1138

    2 жыл бұрын

    The one above all also not supreme being neither not anymore

  • @wolight
    @wolight2 жыл бұрын

    Short version: Azathoth is the biggest threat to life in *this* universe. Reality is a lot bigger than that

  • @azzydreamurr5677

    @azzydreamurr5677

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wrong. He’s above yog sothoth who encompasses realms beyond infinite multiverses and dimensions.

  • @Link1213.

    @Link1213.

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@azzydreamurr5677 perhaps he surpasses him in single universes, such as an unlucky amalgam but isn't strong enough to take out the entire multiverse, you sacrifice some strength in order to take control of the entire multiverse

  • @azzydreamurr5677

    @azzydreamurr5677

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Link1213. no he’s above yog entirely

  • @ringo.9396

    @ringo.9396

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Link1213. what are you talking about? a fodder like hypnos is above the first gate which is implied to be comprised of an endless recursion of greater metaphysical hierarchy that completly beyond the concept of all dimensions, transcends multiverse which has uncoutably infinite numbers of higher dimensions, each universe extend infinitely in all directions, of which there are an infinite number in each universe, and higher dimensions have a definite qualitative superiority over lower dimensions. These infinite-dimensional universes in and of themselves are merely atoms in a greater cosmos, which makes up one higher level in a fractal of realities, all objects corresponding to that dimensionality are merely infinitesimal cross-sections of objects in the next dimension up, and this chain goes upwards to "archetypal infinity." P. S. the intuition here is that in higher dimensions, volumes of spikes thin out much quicker as we decrease their radius. Think about triangles versus cones. If you hold the height of a triangle constant and make its base smaller and smaller, the area changes linearly. But if you hold the height of a cone constant and make the radius of the base smaller and smaller, the volume (which depends on the area of the base) depends on the radius like r^2. So as we make r small, the volume of the cone goes to zero way faster than the area of the triangle did.

  • @gigachad167

    @gigachad167

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ringo.9396 exacly

  • @AmandaFessler
    @AmandaFessler2 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like the real Supreme Being was the friends we made along the way. 😏 In all seriousness, mind blown. I'd always wondered why Lovecraft had preferred to call it the Yog-Sothothery. Had explained it away as "Yog isn't a blind idiot, so he'd be keeping tabs of everything," rather than "Yog was the absolute supreme being itself".

  • @hombreg1

    @hombreg1

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Begone, Thoth"

  • @Nick_Lamb

    @Nick_Lamb

    2 жыл бұрын

    No being in the Cthulu mythos can stand up to the power of friendship.

  • @tuluppampam

    @tuluppampam

    2 жыл бұрын

    how could Yog-Sothoth not be friend with everything as it is everything? the power of friendship is beyond anything we've seen so far

  • @Nick_Lamb

    @Nick_Lamb

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tuluppampam Maybe he is emo and hates himself

  • @stacys7528

    @stacys7528

    Жыл бұрын

    hahahah this comment is hilarious

  • @emrecan7316
    @emrecan73162 жыл бұрын

    Some suggest that Yog-Sothoth, Nyarlathotep and Azathoth are kind of the same entity. As in Azathoth is the brain, Nyarlathotep is the soul and Yog-Sothoth is the body.

  • @My_Master_Waves

    @My_Master_Waves

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's what I thought as well.

  • @Constantin_Valdor_

    @Constantin_Valdor_

    2 жыл бұрын

    But, ( correct me if I'm wrong) Didn't nyarlathotep punch a sleeping azathoth?

  • @sceptile6375

    @sceptile6375

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Constantin_Valdor_ have you ever gone to bed and spent 2 hours staring at the ceiling regretting your life choices? That’s pretty much what’s going on here, your soul punching your brain.

  • @Retr0Bunn13

    @Retr0Bunn13

    2 жыл бұрын

    Actually Nyarlathotep is Azathoth's consciousness/soul personified, the Nameless Mist is Azathoth's body, Yog-Sothoth is his knowledge via the brain, and Magnum Tenebrosum is his throne.

  • @gigachad167

    @gigachad167

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Retr0Bunn13 lmaoo no mate, that's your own headcanon.

  • @jonryder7269
    @jonryder72692 жыл бұрын

    Ive always been surprised why there is such a distinction among some when it comes to spliting the cthulhu part of the mythos from the dreamlands parts, like they are different things. Even tho characters, locations and deities are mentioned in both AND dreams are a huge part of pretty much all of lovecrafts writting its basically his magic system. Very strange.

  • @Tacklepig

    @Tacklepig

    2 жыл бұрын

    Because they're basically written in different genres. Most of Lovecraft's Cthulhu stories are very dark scifi, while the Dreamlands cycle is mostly whimsical fantasy, with only few dark elements present. I think people make the distinction because that more fantasy-like quality of the Dreamlands tends to remove some of the horror of it all, and they prefer their Cthulhu-stories grounded in reality and the ephemeral stuff only be dark and threatening. I don't think it works quite like that, though.

  • @jonryder7269

    @jonryder7269

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Tacklepig ah yea that could be one explanation. Tho id still say alot of the dreamcykle do still touch on the themes seen in alot of other Lovecraft works. Loneliness, nihilism, the fear of death, lost youth that kinda stuff

  • @populuxe1

    @populuxe1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jonryder7269 The Dream Cycle is HPL doing his Dunsany fantasy thing, probably with a little influence of George MacDonald as well. They only every slightly map onto the later Cosmicist stuff. Another mistake people make is to assume the revision stories he did for other people automatically connect up with the rest of the mythos, but that should never be taken for granted.

  • @jonryder7269

    @jonryder7269

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@populuxe1 oh totally i can see that dude was a total nut for that stuff. Isnt there a Dunsaney story where a guy goes through a weird mountain and meets a bunch of weird creatures that later become parts of his lore? I still think the dreamlands fit into whatever cosmology you make for him, tho i would add some asterisks around his collaborative writings. 👍

  • @tarvoc746
    @tarvoc7462 жыл бұрын

    9:00 - "an untranslatable sign." So there we have it: The highest being in Lovecraft's Mythos is the artist formerly known as Prince.

  • @Emanon...

    @Emanon...

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Prince in Purple

  • @lucasburil1732

    @lucasburil1732

    2 жыл бұрын

    What is the prince? In don't found he anywhere

  • @2006HondaCivicD

    @2006HondaCivicD

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lucasburil1732 lmao you dunno Prince? Search his name on youtube, and you'll see XD

  • @BlankEmporium

    @BlankEmporium

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@lucasburil1732 Your clearly too young, my friend. Just look up Smooth Criminal.

  • @justanothercommenterwithan9089

    @justanothercommenterwithan9089

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BlankEmporium isn't that a Michael jackson song?

  • @shanesullivan460
    @shanesullivan4602 жыл бұрын

    Not gonna lie, I'm extremely impressed that a parrot made all these videos.

  • @andrewcoltzt1563

    @andrewcoltzt1563

    2 жыл бұрын

    He's not actually a parrot, silly.

  • @shailennanu5491

    @shailennanu5491

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@andrewcoltzt1563 Duh, he's a webcam parrot

  • @zombyjano

    @zombyjano

    2 жыл бұрын

    Parrots are the smartest bird, so not surprised.

  • @detective2221

    @detective2221

    Жыл бұрын

    @@andrewcoltzt1563 shush

  • @elcalabozodelandroide2

    @elcalabozodelandroide2

    Жыл бұрын

    You mean a shrimp fried this rice ?

  • @jamesmcguinness6195
    @jamesmcguinness61952 жыл бұрын

    I always assumed Azathoht was HP Lovecraft himself dreaming of the universe he created an if he ever "woke up" from his real life issues that the cathulu mythos would end.

  • @davonbenson4361

    @davonbenson4361

    2 жыл бұрын

    To me, Azathoht represents the ignorance of humanity. The multiple eyes representing people not noticing things that should be obvious to them. Things that are hidden in plain sight.

  • @unclecrusty5476

    @unclecrusty5476

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@davonbenson4361 assinging anything human to Azathoth misses the point of a completly alien entity

  • @hirocheeto7795

    @hirocheeto7795

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@unclecrusty5476 Art isn't made in a void, and since Lovecraft himself was a human being it's not possible to completely separate Azathoth from humanity. Who's to say that's not what Lovecraft had in mind when he designed it? Who's to say it even matters?

  • @unclecrusty5476

    @unclecrusty5476

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@hirocheeto7795 we have pretty solid ideas of what Lovecraft meant through his fiction and letters. Any passing resemblence to anything human is a fault of the medium (alien concepts having to be expressed in humam words), rather then an intention of Lovecraft.

  • @puru7976

    @puru7976

    2 жыл бұрын

    i thought it was supposed to symbolize cosmic insignificance in it's totality

  • @kaijukingdom2686
    @kaijukingdom26862 жыл бұрын

    God you are doing a Lovecraft video? I can’t wait to watch it, I have been a big Lovecraft fan, it’s what got me into 40k. I can’t wait to watch more of your vids.

  • @nono9543
    @nono95432 жыл бұрын

    Damn. I'm stunned. You really outdid yourself this time. We have been fed the same Lovecraft myths for far too long and it's time we started taking alternative takes more seriously.

  • @daltsu3498
    @daltsu34982 жыл бұрын

    Once again proving yourself to be the best power scaler on KZread. Keep it up my dude

  • @elgatochurro

    @elgatochurro

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bobobo is stronger

  • @eggroll3055

    @eggroll3055

    Жыл бұрын

    Sadly, Suggsverse stomps.

  • @Generic_Gaming_Channel
    @Generic_Gaming_Channel2 жыл бұрын

    Explaining this video in one sentence: Yog-Sothoth is everything,therefore he wins by default

  • @aflitiatorbinomoril9748

    @aflitiatorbinomoril9748

    2 жыл бұрын

    He is Indeed Everything but Yog Sothoth Is actually Azathoth itself, because IF we are dreaming, everything inside our dream is a part of ourself, so simply, every Outer Gods In Cthulhu Mythos is actually azathoth itself.

  • @selvinmartinez7938

    @selvinmartinez7938

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@aflitiatorbinomoril9748 bro are you fucking dumb I guess you just skipped this whole video 🤣🤣

  • @tuluppampam

    @tuluppampam

    Жыл бұрын

    @@aflitiatorbinomoril9748 did you even watch the video? It clearly says that azathoth isn't the dreamer of reality, so you're factually incorrect

  • @aflitiatorbinomoril9748

    @aflitiatorbinomoril9748

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tuluppampam explain to me how, supreme archetype shit? sure.

  • @killcount4750

    @killcount4750

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tuluppampam he is tho this guys an idiot

  • @Visigoth_
    @Visigoth_2 жыл бұрын

    Good stuff! I've been looking for some serious examination and discussions of all the Yog-Sothothery.

  • @strangekitchenappliances2314
    @strangekitchenappliances23142 жыл бұрын

    This video is keeping me entertained while I wait to go to the OR to get my appendix hakai’d, thanks for good timing parrot.

  • @christophernoneya4635
    @christophernoneya46352 жыл бұрын

    Honestly I prefer the misconception to the text, the idea of a sleeping god manifesting all of reality through their dreams, that we desperately and selfishly try to keep asleep to extend our existance which would simply and unceremoniously just end if it were to ever wake is just more interesting to me than yet another mindless destructive force of nature

  • @timurtheking

    @timurtheking

    Жыл бұрын

    Agree so much

  • @phost9011

    @phost9011

    Жыл бұрын

    i'm already bored of this version, i already heard it from "the elder scrolls" with Godhead. i guess the inspiration don't come from nowhere but i would prefer if it's not from the Cthulhu myth. a dream would only lessen the "chaos" feeling from this myth.

  • @dylanschmeichel2008

    @dylanschmeichel2008

    Жыл бұрын

    I disagree, as for us to have an actual concept of a creator deity makes lovecrafts universe less Eldritch - creator deities are a human idea, and to humanize the universe de mystifies the infallible.

  • @christophernoneya4635

    @christophernoneya4635

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dylanschmeichel2008 It still leaves a lot of open questions that I feel separate it from this issue, it implies that our world is in itself a dream existing in another world. We thought we were at least lice in comparison to the old gods but in reality the old gods were simply the passing thoughts of something far greater, and the implication is there is this entire alternative "real" world in which this being itself could be among the lowest of entities. When we talk about an "Eldritch" universe, the last thing I want more of is giant hulking monsters on a trail of destruction, I want complex and strange creatures with unknowable intentions (and therefore completely unpredictable actions). A lot of the old gods that were written are either too human or too beast, which makes them understandable which removes the intrigue

  • @jackgrove4621

    @jackgrove4621

    8 ай бұрын

    I kinda disagree because stories like that tend to always stagnate.

  • @elidasilva5558
    @elidasilva55582 жыл бұрын

    Great video, cant wait for more videos on the cthulu mythos

  • @ReyesdeMadrid
    @ReyesdeMadrid2 жыл бұрын

    Finally, someone with a platform telling everyone that the "It's all just Azathoth's dream" is not cannon Lovecraft. I don't have a problem with the theory, but too many people think that once they hear the theory, they think they understand the whole mythos. I personally think the dream theory is too simple and too mundane. The universe being something we can easily understand and can relate to, seems very un-Lovecraftian to me. Having Yog-Sothoth as a more powerful being being makes sense, because even when you get an explanation of what it is it is still esoteric and incomprehensible. The more all powerful a being gets the less comprehensible it should be in a Lovecraftian mythos.

  • @Trollamollex

    @Trollamollex

    2 жыл бұрын

    The dream thing is still weak. To believe that and still say that Azathoth is greater than Yog is foolish. By Yogs' description, he seems like he is Azathoths' subconscious mind. In a way, that would make him more or less greater than azathoth (kinda). In any case, Azathoth would obviously wake up *to something else* so he isn't the all encompassing existence. Neither is Yog but his description clearly puts him on top in such a scenario.

  • @gigachad167

    @gigachad167

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Trollamollex lmaoo yog sothoth was literally stated to be everything in the verse.

  • @eggroll3055

    @eggroll3055

    Жыл бұрын

    Lovecraft was so vague that it really isn't certain how powerful his version of Azathoth was, which was his goal as he focused on the fear of the unknown. I'll break it down. We know that Azathoth was powerful enough to demand Nyarlathotep's servitude (though begrudgingly) and for several other gods to devote their entire existence towards keeping him at bay, that's about it. If he IS weaker than Yog-Sothoth, it's clear he surpasses all of Lovecraft's other published creations in terms of power (who would serve him if he didn't). My take? There isn't much given as to what Azathoth's actual power is, and that's exactly what Lovecraft wanted to do with him. Like Pandora's Box, he is capable of bringing untold havoc, but nobody can know what that havoc is until it's too late... Nobody except Yog-Sothoth, that is.

  • @demscrazy6574

    @demscrazy6574

    Ай бұрын

    azathoth is beyond time and space. its mentioned in the books. yogsothoth is time and space.

  • @shadowmonarch1383

    @shadowmonarch1383

    16 күн бұрын

    ​@@demscrazy6574no he is not

  • @thefvguy5648
    @thefvguy56482 жыл бұрын

    Glad to see you uploading again

  • @Dragonpreet
    @Dragonpreet2 жыл бұрын

    Great video, I held this misconception so glad to get that sorted!

  • @WebCamParrot

    @WebCamParrot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah it was something I believed at one point too.

  • @ynorb9573

    @ynorb9573

    2 жыл бұрын

    This isnt what id call a misconception I'd call it a "misinterpretation" rather cause it does have some grounds rather then a misconception having none

  • @WebCamParrot

    @WebCamParrot

    2 жыл бұрын

    The idea that Azathoth dreams everything is certainly a misconception but him just being the supreme being or something is more of a different interpretation yeah.

  • @ynorb9573

    @ynorb9573

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@WebCamParrot fair enough It's not like the presence tho where it's entirely unfound tho which is why I dont roll my eyes everytime I hear someone say it cause you can say it it's just a weak idea

  • @ynorb9573

    @ynorb9573

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@WebCamParrot my view is whole yog is the supreme being Azathoth is number two and CAN wipe out everything in the universe of it, that's why hypnos need to keep him calm If they don't well he'll go on a tirade

  • @shoesncheese
    @shoesncheese2 жыл бұрын

    This is fantastic. One of the best mythos videos I've ever seen. You demonstrate a deeper understanding of the mythos than anyone else I've had the pleasure to find. You've expanded my understanding in a number of ways and I appreciate it. I have subscribed to your channel. I've read all of Lovecraft's fiction but never his letters. I think I considered Azathoth dreams to be our reality, our world, all that we can see and experience with our limited senses, what we would call our universe. But it is such a small part of the real everything that our sudden absence would hardly be noticed. Isn't that the point? Aren't we no more than motes of dust? And when dust gets in your eye, you rub it out.

  • @vincentmiguelg.bastiero2598
    @vincentmiguelg.bastiero25982 жыл бұрын

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    @johndillermand40532 жыл бұрын

    You've thoroughly and completely earned my sub

  • @Darkthoughts01
    @Darkthoughts018 ай бұрын

    I love that you brought the receipts. I’m going to need to digest this new head cannon.

  • @matthewtucker2103
    @matthewtucker21032 жыл бұрын

    I've always considered Azathoth to be the reader. The reader of the story creates the universe they are reading about in their mind, but they can destroy it by simply not thinking about it.

  • @abyssimus

    @abyssimus

    2 жыл бұрын

    That happens in Lord Dunsany's God of Pegana, too. Trogool, the thing which was neither man nor beast.

  • @filthybugger6236

    @filthybugger6236

    Жыл бұрын

    You clearly haven't read any of the material

  • @RhazOfRheos

    @RhazOfRheos

    Жыл бұрын

    To put it simply, Nyar is the pencil, Aza is the erasure, and Yog is the whole book..

  • @megaaverse8331
    @megaaverse83312 жыл бұрын

    I'm actually blown away!! Thank you for this Parrot!! Keep it up!

  • @hashiondiscord8540
    @hashiondiscord85402 жыл бұрын

    I read the thumbnail in the same way people read the no bitches meme

  • @tylerquigley6887

    @tylerquigley6887

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @vmoz9492
    @vmoz94922 жыл бұрын

    Love you bro Iam soo happy to see you back Nimsan was here

  • @NonAryanDuck
    @NonAryanDuck2 жыл бұрын

    Can't wait for that cosmology video!

  • @pepsiman7453
    @pepsiman74532 жыл бұрын

    I love your nails! And great video as always!

  • @ouroboros6125
    @ouroboros61252 жыл бұрын

    Everybody's gangsta until Azathot's gaze falls upon them and they are disintegrated into thousands of fragments of individual living nightmares only to be united again and become the embodiment of despair reflecting upon themselves in a mirror their own image as if another simulacrum within the infinite depths of the corpse of the unborn godhead.

  • @eggroll3055

    @eggroll3055

    Жыл бұрын

    Or maybe they just get goatified like the son of Yog-Sothoth, Wilbur Whately. Perhaps every one of Lovecraft's creations has a different creature that it likes to mutate you into.

  • @ShadeStormXD

    @ShadeStormXD

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@eggroll3055akin to bloodbornes where great ones seek to have children

  • @thysdebeer2911
    @thysdebeer29112 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. Very enlightening commentary on the topic.

  • @adeleinetheartist8267
    @adeleinetheartist8267 Жыл бұрын

    I changed my mind, Azathoth is not the Cthulhu Mythos' version of God. He is actually the savage, primal and monstrous personification of chaos.

  • @8sins236
    @8sins2362 жыл бұрын

    I've been calling Azathoth the most powerful being in fiction then I found this. Thank you sir for the enlightening on this topic.

  • @8sins236

    @8sins236

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zombiedemon1762 Not really. All those being exist within reality and others like MANA-YOOD-SUSHSI make the concepts that form reality.

  • @zombiedemon1762

    @zombiedemon1762

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@8sins236 . Oh.

  • @ChaseTSY

    @ChaseTSY

    2 жыл бұрын

    Scp 001 swan's proposal might beat fiction tho

  • @antoinepolnareff8970

    @antoinepolnareff8970

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@8sins236 In reality isn't that powerfull.

  • @shithead116

    @shithead116

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nah i can beat all of them because I'm outside of their reality

  • @angeltheautobot5797
    @angeltheautobot57972 жыл бұрын

    "The greatest mercy in the world is humanity's inability to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of the black sea of infinity. It was not meant that we should venture far." - H.P. Lovecraft

  • @Ben-rd3mg
    @Ben-rd3mg2 жыл бұрын

    Glad to see this channel getting a lot of attention

  • @SuperNeospace
    @SuperNeospace2 жыл бұрын

    I thought I was a recent subscriber. I watched an older video of yours from 2 years and saw my own comment and was like huh? I must be suffering from early dementia. Guess the KZreads didn't wanna recommend me your videos despite the fact I've been subbed since then

  • @SharksandDinos
    @SharksandDinos2 жыл бұрын

    The one question I asked and it is now being made into a video, finally.

  • @venturelord3
    @venturelord32 жыл бұрын

    Fascinating. Really appreciate the deep cut into what Lovecraft actually wrote into his lore, this isn't something one can know from just a cursory introduction via some of his works.

  • @axelstoner
    @axelstoner2 жыл бұрын

    Insightful and amazing

  • @grayfield3361
    @grayfield33612 жыл бұрын

    I’m interested to learn about lovecraftian lore

  • @michaelanuradha-khufu4867
    @michaelanuradha-khufu48672 жыл бұрын

    Always learn something new from you. Great Job with Cthulhu, its pretty misunderstood.

  • @Blackferret66
    @Blackferret662 жыл бұрын

    My view was always that Azathoth, Yog Sothoth, and Shub Niggurath were pretty much equal facets of the primal aspects of reality, and Azathoth was only placed above the other two because he represented entropy and the end, which implied that even the other two would succumb to it eventually.

  • @BlankEmporium

    @BlankEmporium

    Жыл бұрын

    But this blatantly untrue. Yog-Shototh, as discovered by Carter, is everything. Yog-Shototh is the transcendental force that empowers all existence; allowing existence to, well, exist. Without Yog-Shototh there would be nothing. No Azathoth, no Shubniggurath. Nothing. Why? Because Yog-Shototh is everything.

  • @Blackferret66

    @Blackferret66

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BlankEmporium Well, that's your opinion, but Yog Sothoth was born from Azathoth, through the Nameless Mists, so the opposite is actually true. Without Azathoth, Yog Sothoth would never have been. This is from Lovecraft himself in his Selected Letters. And while Yog Sothoth is the embodiment of all space and time, even space and time end and die, which is the domain of Azathoth.

  • @BlankEmporium

    @BlankEmporium

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Blackferret66 Yog-Shototh isn't the embodiment of anything. He's everything. He's not an avatar, or some physical concept. He's everything. And also, Azathoth has no known relation to Yog-Shototh. Howard wrote a joke in response to a friend of his claiming to be an offspring of the Roman God Jupiter. Howard also included himself as a descendant of Yog-Shototh, going so far as to say "I have only demons in my blood." Sure, Howard wrote Azathoth is Yog-Shototh's grandfather... As a joke... To a friend... Who claimed to be a literal Demigod. Even further, there's no indication Azathoth is even sleeping in Lovecraft's works. It's description seems to suggest a fully awake, mindless, monster whose the embodiment of chaos.

  • @Blackferret66

    @Blackferret66

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BlankEmporium FFS, are you, like, and actual worshipper who thinks that Yog Sothoth is a real thing? Because you sure come off like it.

  • @BlankEmporium

    @BlankEmporium

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Blackferret66 No, I'm not a damn idiot. I know fiction when I see it.

  • @fweefindings5569
    @fweefindings55692 жыл бұрын

    Wow I always just assumed Azathoth was the strongest fictional character due to him dreaming, but this really debunked that. Thanks for clearing that up.

  • @opossumleader3645

    @opossumleader3645

    2 жыл бұрын

    Even if that was the case Azathoth would be nowhere near the top. The SCP cosmology, for example, has an infinite stack of narratives which nothing in Lovecraft can compare to. Suggsverse and Dark Tower do similar things.

  • @opossumleader3645

    @opossumleader3645

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gigachad167 You know Yog Sothoth? The one who this video says it the real supreme being? They exist in SCP. They're not even above the bottom narrative, either. And while I hate to admit it, Dark Tower is indeed top 10. Cthulhu Mythos, however, is not.

  • @opossumleader3645

    @opossumleader3645

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gigachad167 I am a fan of SCP, though I highly dislike Dark Tower. Either way, the Cthulhu mythos has nothing on the level of Absolute Infinity. Nice try at trolling though

  • @Spino-hx2mr

    @Spino-hx2mr

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@opossumleader3645 SCP is a shadow of its former self. Nobody cares about your Absolute Infinities because that's not what SCP was supposed to be about, it wasn't meant for battleboarding. Nonetheless, the 5000s and 6000s barely compare to anything that's come before.

  • @koitern2567

    @koitern2567

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gigachad167 scp isn't fanfiction its metafiction

  • @baddragonite
    @baddragonite2 жыл бұрын

    Can't wait for more

  • @mayhem4854
    @mayhem48542 жыл бұрын

    I didn’t know the Cthulhu mythos had power scaling but here we are.

  • @PauloJrchannel
    @PauloJrchannel2 жыл бұрын

    Both Yog-Sothoth and Azathoth solo my favorite verses anyway, so it doesn't really matter lmao.

  • @Cipher_Paul

    @Cipher_Paul

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, but I still find it hard to fully comprehend how powerful they are and what their limits would be.

  • @noneofyourbusiness2437

    @noneofyourbusiness2437

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Cipher_Paul Yog-Sothoth would not have limits. He is a truly infinite being so trying to define limits for him is an effort in futility.

  • @aaronsucayan433

    @aaronsucayan433

    2 жыл бұрын

    The funny thing here is the role of both Unnamed Darkness and Nameless Mist.

  • @lassehoffmann625

    @lassehoffmann625

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@noneofyourbusiness2437 well then we have to fall bag to beating him with paradoxes, can he find a task he is not able to complete?

  • @noneofyourbusiness2437

    @noneofyourbusiness2437

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lassehoffmann625 He does not have limits and is therefore beyond logic. So the answer is ultimately a paradox in and of itself being both yes and no. Paradoxes are essentially meaningless to beings like Yog-Sothoth.

  • @Zach-cn4lb
    @Zach-cn4lb2 жыл бұрын

    It makes me very happy that you used music from Mechanicus for this

  • @emrepalapi
    @emrepalapi2 жыл бұрын

    Just saw the video title and "what? How? Why?"... Here we go again webcamparrot video that I need to watch 7-8 times to understand.

  • @thomaselliot1945
    @thomaselliot19452 жыл бұрын

    I think a major leading factor to the azathoth centric view commonly held is partly coming from from of the Chao magic grimoire one of which relates him to the sun and pushes him as a solar archetype.

  • @joshuamourning6650
    @joshuamourning66502 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the dreadful maddening soul rejoicing enlightenment on who is truly supreme

  • @ghoulkinggruul7345
    @ghoulkinggruul73452 жыл бұрын

    A Mythos cosmology video? Hype!

  • @yabseramekonnen103
    @yabseramekonnen1032 жыл бұрын

    a Lovecraft video! Mans really do be listening to his viewers

  • @astalkus7540
    @astalkus75402 жыл бұрын

    I like the idea that yog is the mind of azatoth that left him and became an entity himself, leaving his body with enormous power behind.

  • @elcalabozodelandroide2

    @elcalabozodelandroide2

    11 ай бұрын

    Thats good

  • @lightborn9071

    @lightborn9071

    Ай бұрын

    Nyarlathothep is Azathoth's mind and soul.

  • @talkinggas
    @talkinggas2 жыл бұрын

    Parrot spitting facts again! One little problem with the video is that the music is overbearing sometimes but maybe it's just me, since my ears suck ass.

  • @WebCamParrot

    @WebCamParrot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Noted, I kept messing with the volume of the music when I was editing and not being happy with it. It was always either too loud or too quiet lol.

  • @talkinggas

    @talkinggas

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@WebCamParrot Perfectly fine, as long as I know you are trying that is enough for me to keep watching lol. That and u make amazing videos!

  • @masstv9052

    @masstv9052

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@WebCamParrot It's better to error on the side of the music being to low, rather than too high. That way your voice is audible to those of us who have bad hearing

  • @Amarus

    @Amarus

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@WebCamParrot if your recording software has the option, also try enabling volume automation for any voice tracks, should help it remain clear even with the music

  • @QuantumQuill455
    @QuantumQuill4552 жыл бұрын

    One of these days you should make a "How Strong is Dungeons and Dragons?" video. It is after all the Godfather of RPGs.

  • @Goodroosters

    @Goodroosters

    2 жыл бұрын

    It'd have to be a big video, since power levels vary greatly between various official settings, but I second this as an awesome idea.

  • @Preaplanes

    @Preaplanes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tier 2, innit? They don't seem to do higher dimensions, just parallel worlds.

  • @eggroll3055

    @eggroll3055

    Жыл бұрын

    Depends on which setting (and edition, don't get me started on punpun)

  • @hiruyabebaw807
    @hiruyabebaw8072 жыл бұрын

    Webcamparrot been spitting

  • @Darthvader-cf3xx
    @Darthvader-cf3xx2 жыл бұрын

    lovecraft fans and comics fans are basically the same neither read the stories but still spread false information as if they knew about it

  • @Hoopergames
    @Hoopergames2 жыл бұрын

    I'm intrigued

  • @foxygrandpa5064
    @foxygrandpa50642 жыл бұрын

    I found this channel by pure coincidence and have no idea what is being talked about but I now want to read Lovecraft.

  • @starkiller6tothe9gaming81
    @starkiller6tothe9gaming812 жыл бұрын

    Wasn't expecting this

  • @michelecastellotti9172
    @michelecastellotti91722 жыл бұрын

    As many oointed out, azatoth is the strongest in this universe, so he is some kind of growing tumor within this reality... what is lovecraft's multiverse of horrors is all contained within a dying entity or maybe is just a complex and cool version of cancer...

  • @ORLY911
    @ORLY9112 жыл бұрын

    I myself ever since i got into the Mythos believed Yog Sothoth to be a greater force than Azathoth, based purely on what we're told of the multidimensional being of Yog Sothoth, and being those dimensions themselves, part of time and space but also locked out of it at the same time at higher planes. Yog Sothoth is also a primordial intelligence, being one of the few intelligent elder gods along with Nyarlahotep, but being infinitely more wise, being connected with time itself. This isn't to say Azathoth is far below him, they are really opposites, Yog is all knowing and all being, while Azathoth is, well, the blind idiot god and all consuming. There is some dualism with the two. While I personally do believe Yog to be greater, they're still two opposing cosmic forces that shape everything there.

  • @habadobobado9729

    @habadobobado9729

    Жыл бұрын

    He is powerful but never forget this is all Azathoth's dream, he is just one fake being like the rest of it all in the mythos for when Azathoth wakes it's all over which leads me to my point; Azathoth is far above Yog as he is the unwitting creator of all of these powerful beings although he does not directly influence the multiverse which would require him to be sentient(awake) and therefore end the dream and all of this.

  • @BlankEmporium

    @BlankEmporium

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@habadobobado9729 Azathoth's dreams are specific to the physical universe and the Dreamlands. The First Gate transcends Azathoth. The Last Gate, preceded by an infinite number of Gates each infinitely transcending the last, is still nothing compared to Yog-Shototh, who is everything. Including Azathoth.

  • @Divinemakyr
    @Divinemakyr2 жыл бұрын

    Damn, I subbed. Interesting.

  • @filipepassos-coelho6661
    @filipepassos-coelho66612 жыл бұрын

    more of this please!

  • @antitheist3206
    @antitheist32062 жыл бұрын

    Azathoth: I dreamed you all into being! Yog Sothoth: Sure grandpa, now finish your √{¢\¥]•{^{

  • @80Elminster
    @80Elminster2 жыл бұрын

    One of his names is literally Lord of All. In the Necronomicon he is described as "the Greatest God, who rules all infinity from his throne at the center of chaos. His body is composed of all the bright stars of the visible universe, but his face is veiled in darkness"

  • @abyssimus

    @abyssimus

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's from a 2003 story by Gary Myers, not Lovecraft.

  • @WebCamParrot

    @WebCamParrot

    2 жыл бұрын

    I always find it weird when people try to correct me on things in comments like this when they just have absolutely no clue whatsoever what they are talking about. Like they haven't read this story at all and don't even know what this quote is, where does this level of arrogance even come from?

  • @abyssimus

    @abyssimus

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@WebCamParrot Imagine my disappointment after checking not only the Simon Necronomicon or Donald Tyson's Necronomicon, but also the Al-Azif Cipher manuscript and the R'lyeh text and even (ugh) Warlock Asylum's "Atlantean" Necronomicon. And then finding the quote comes from a 2003 story. And realizing that OP didn't even find that from Wikipedia but the villains Fandom site because Wikipedia properly sources the quote.

  • @ShadeStormXD

    @ShadeStormXD

    11 ай бұрын

    the quote is from 2003, but the name is not. Azathoth is referred to repeatedly as " Lord of All" or "Lord of All Things" if YogSothoth IS All Things/Everything then why would I not rank a Lord over the object it is Lording over cit. The Haunter of the Dark cit. Fuggi from Yuggoth

  • @LinkiePup
    @LinkiePup2 жыл бұрын

    Yo, Respect for using Dance of the Cryptech!

  • @MySkilletfan
    @MySkilletfan2 жыл бұрын

    I love seeing Smite art finding its way to these types of videos

  • @eaterbattery
    @eaterbattery Жыл бұрын

    I don't understand why people keep commenting and replying that Azathot dreams everything.... Have you guys not watched the video, it's false

  • @ynorb9573
    @ynorb95732 жыл бұрын

    Parrot you absolutely outdid yourself and this video is one of the absolute peaks of your channel Ik you don't like questions but this is one I've had for awhile, is yog-sothoth what you'd call the strongest in fiction I adore you and your channel and would love to talk to you more eventually Imo yog is above but azathoth is the second strongest (not counting avatars or archetypes) and while I myself don't mind azathoth being above because well there is evidence but its more slim imo

  • @blockhead134

    @blockhead134

    2 жыл бұрын

    Like, in all of fiction? There are plenty of more powerful characters in fiction due to Yog still being treated as a character in a multiverse. Any author level power would outrank it due to being a creature that theoretically can affect the non-fictional world. For instance, even Deadpool can just rewrite himself to be more powerful than Yog and even make killing him have no adverse effects on the reality that Yog IS. Going away from the more meta levels that comics do, there are plenty of characters that defeat manifestations of reality or omnipotence, especially in anime or other east asian inspired mediums. The protagonists from persona 5 kill capital G God, and Saitama from One Punch Man effectivly has the super power of being unbeatable. For that matter, any character with Toon Force or other comedic abilities like Bugs Bunny or Bobobo would also be able to beat him. I guess in short, since he is still just a fictional character, there are plenty of other fictional characters that have the ability to defeat all other fictional characters, so long as the writer desires. Which is honestly less of a cop out than it sounds

  • @gigachad167

    @gigachad167

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@blockhead134 lmaoo no kid. Stop. Yog sothoth solos your garbage dc, marvel and scp at once. You are clearly a troll. Go to bed.

  • @gigachad167

    @gigachad167

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Nyarlathotep dude said saitama beats yog. 🤣🤣

  • @Cipher_Paul

    @Cipher_Paul

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@blockhead134 Saitama never had the power to be unbeatable though. He is a gag character, but his gag is vastly misunderstood by people because they never take the time to check if their own interpretation is correct. The gag isn't that he is able to one-punch anyone, it's that he is a "end of series" protagonist put at the very beginning of his own story, as said by the author himself. Of course this creates the side effect of him not having anything else to accomplish anymore and being able to one-shot anyone in *his verse* for now, but that's just like if you put Hokage Naruto up against Zabuza, or Ultra Instinct Goku against the Red Ribbon Army. Both of these characters would easily solo the verse up until they respectively arrive against Kaguya and Jiren, but it doesn't mean they can't lose or can one-shot anyone. That's just a side effect and not the gag in and off itself. And at the end of the story he'll finally find a worthy opponent anyway. Saitama would easily be beaten by a bunch of people from other Shonens since he doesn't have any feat higher than Small Planetary. And even then, even if he were to be able to beat anyone in one punch, it doesn't mean he can't be defeated. You're two levels deep in the misinterpretations of Saitama's abilities. If Saitama can't land an attack on his opponent he can't win. A bunch of characters have durability negation. He can even be sealed, or erased, or teleported away. Saitama is nothing special.

  • @zenosama8166

    @zenosama8166

    2 жыл бұрын

    Meta Fiction is still 100 % fictional and could actually be a antifeat Because Verses with Metafiction is Fiction within Fiction While Verses without are not a Story within the story making any being from a Verse without Metafiction infinitly more powerful than any with

  • @sitonthemelon2742
    @sitonthemelon27422 жыл бұрын

    Love the Mechanicus soundtrack in the background.

  • @ThatOneGuy7550
    @ThatOneGuy75502 жыл бұрын

    wake up honey, there's a new webcamparrot video

  • @hihowrya370
    @hihowrya3702 жыл бұрын

    Just a reminder, that the Multiverse exists in the Cthulhu Mythos. It irritates that I forgot which story that I read it from but my point is, there's a lot of potential of many more powerful beings in the Cthulhu Mythos. You may take this with a grain of salt and I also did myself since I forgot which story it was from.

  • @eggroll3055

    @eggroll3055

    Жыл бұрын

    Azathoth and Yog-Sothoth both exist beyond the reaches of dimensioned space, which the multiverse is very much tied to.

  • @magicmanscott40k
    @magicmanscott40k2 жыл бұрын

    Yay Lovecraft content!!

  • @thomasguery4774
    @thomasguery47742 жыл бұрын

    Interestingly it goes with my vision of the Old One's cult after multiple earing of lovecraft's entire audiobook compilation... Great work aud argumented anylisis! Thumbs up!!! ^^ ... Ia, Ia, Yog Sothoth!! Ia, Sub Nigurath! Ia, Ia, Asthur... Ia, Ia, Yog Sothoth Glanl Na Faghn...

  • @demitrischoenwald1436
    @demitrischoenwald14362 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for clearing up this misconception, now I have a better grasp of the situation.

  • @Davesknd
    @Davesknd2 жыл бұрын

    I thought the whole point of Azatoth is that it is... well.. blind, mindless and without sound or reason. Just a maddening and mindless chaos, so confusing and perplexing that even gods go mad and join in the dance. Of course it isn't 'powerful' or the like... it literally doesn't do anything but sit there and be confusing. The other old ones have ambitions and plans and agents and want stuff. That makes them dangerous. Azatoth just IS. Kinda comparing apples to pears.

  • @punkrider8758
    @punkrider87582 жыл бұрын

    That title got me shook ngl

  • @mysteryshrouded
    @mysteryshrouded2 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes. Interesting conviction, WebCamParrot.

  • @evanblake5252
    @evanblake52522 жыл бұрын

    Well... I feel very lied to now. Interesting video, I appreciate the information.

  • @Kid_Naps
    @Kid_Naps2 жыл бұрын

    Azathoth reminds me of old greek beast Hecatonchires, which was the only thing Kronos feared and was the ACTUAL thing that defeated Kronos in the War of Gods and Titans. It was a beast living underground that had thousands hands, mouths and eyes and was most likely a metaphore to plebian power over the ruler.

  • @zombyjano

    @zombyjano

    2 жыл бұрын

    I thought it was Zeus that fought Hecatonchires.

  • @desmonides
    @desmonides2 жыл бұрын

    With strange aeons, even Death may die

  • @lethal5383
    @lethal53832 жыл бұрын

    Parrot Goated video,could you do a TES vs Cthulhu Mythos video?

  • @ynorb9573

    @ynorb9573

    2 жыл бұрын

    07th expansion=Cthulhu mythos>>>>>>>>>>>tes>>>>Warhammer>>>DC imo

  • @ynorb9573

    @ynorb9573

    2 жыл бұрын

    @aeua like?

  • @brodiecronin1530
    @brodiecronin15302 жыл бұрын

    Good video

  • @enocescalona
    @enocescalona2 жыл бұрын

    now this is quite a revelation. damn, am impressed. i thought that "myth" was a true fact that Lovecraft intended. seems Azathoth is not that important in the long run.

  • @nono9543

    @nono9543

    2 жыл бұрын

    He’s still powerful enough to fodderize something like TOAA and the Presence objectively but yeah he is no match for Yog

  • @nautilniemy8374

    @nautilniemy8374

    2 жыл бұрын

    I refuse to believe this heresy! (:

  • @antoinepolnareff8970

    @antoinepolnareff8970

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nono9543 Not really, he isn't even near that level really

  • @gigachad167

    @gigachad167

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@antoinepolnareff8970 lmaoo yes kid he one shots your whole marvel and dc combined.

  • @thomasipad7719

    @thomasipad7719

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gigachad167 You clearly have no idea about Marvel cosmic entities

  • @Blutwind
    @Blutwind2 жыл бұрын

    While i would agree that Yog is greater then Azathoth i would add that Azathoth is described as more destructive kinda like a cancer festering in the complete beign of Yog-Sogoth it gives them a nice duality imho. Yog cant get rid of Azathoth because he as everything is part of him. And Azathoth could not consume Yog because then he would consume all of space time and beyond and therefore himself

  • @davewv78
    @davewv78 Жыл бұрын

    This is a great video. You really convinced me that Yog Sothoth is a better candidate for the Cthulhu Mythos supreme deity. I have to admit I was reluctant and fairly married to the Azathoth dreaming the universe theory. Do you know the source of the "Azathoth dreaming reality and being kept sleeping with music" theory? I feel like everything that I was certain of is wrong, lol. Seriously though great video. I would like to track down the source of the popular debunked theory.

  • @stefant4184
    @stefant41842 жыл бұрын

    What's the music in the background? Seems like a remix of something familiar but can't put my finger on it.

  • @Aermydach

    @Aermydach

    2 жыл бұрын

    Warhammer 40,000 Mechanicus OST - Dance of the Cryptek. Check out that entire OST. It slaps. As soon as I recognised the song, I had to pause the video, then find and play the song out. Lastly, for a review of the game: Mandalore Gaming - Mechanicus.

  • @brantcloyd5485
    @brantcloyd54852 жыл бұрын

    Damn this whole time I thought Azathoth was the big daddy of Yog Sogoth and Shub Niggurath; and sleeping blind idiot god (whose apparently an entirely different entitiy). I really need to catch up on the lore of HP Lovecraft again. Very informative video.

  • @ChurchofCthulhu

    @ChurchofCthulhu

    2 жыл бұрын

    Azathoth is still the big daddy. Parrot is wrong.

  • @brantcloyd5485

    @brantcloyd5485

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ChurchofCthulhu Lol you sure?

  • @windandcloudshadow158

    @windandcloudshadow158

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@brantcloyd5485 Yes in Lovecrafts letter it placed Azothoth at the top even if it was a joke it shows that he viewed Azo as top dog. Yog maybe everything but it's Azo who dreaming of him.

  • @Kukisei

    @Kukisei

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@windandcloudshadow158 where can you read the letters?

  • @eggroll3055

    @eggroll3055

    Жыл бұрын

    @@windandcloudshadow158 Through The Gates Of The Silver Key (written the same year in 1933) says otherwise.

  • @GK-lf2mn
    @GK-lf2mn2 жыл бұрын

    Lovecraft called it Yog-Sothothery for a reason... nice vid

  • @ProfessorPrel
    @ProfessorPrel2 жыл бұрын

    Next video will probably be something like Webcamparrot is not the mastermind behind WebCamParrot

  • @bigbadseed7665
    @bigbadseed76652 жыл бұрын

    Can you share the name of the music in this video?

  • @anomalocaris7436
    @anomalocaris74362 жыл бұрын

    I always thought that Azathoth represented Lovecraft himself, or at least his brain that imagined and created the monsters in his mythos

  • @gotmog22
    @gotmog222 жыл бұрын

    It's really ambiguous on whether Azathoth or Yog is the top dog of the setting, depending on how you read Through the Gates of the Silver Keys and connect it to Hypnos

  • @tuluppampam

    @tuluppampam

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hypnos is clearly about the Dreamland, while the silver key is about the gates and something clearly above the Dreamland There's no way it is ambiguous, as things are completely separated

  • @BlankEmporium

    @BlankEmporium

    Жыл бұрын

    Blake nearly traveled to Azathoth's court, yet when he arrived to the First Gate he says it surpasses everything he's ever witnessed before.

  • @kisbiflos
    @kisbiflos2 жыл бұрын

    What is the background music? Sounds so familiar, but I am not sure since it is hard to make it out.

  • @dariodigesu1751
    @dariodigesu17512 жыл бұрын

    Nice Barnes & Nobles edition of Lovecraft writings. I bought that as well and it's worth every cent spent on it.

  • @sibren9874
    @sibren98742 жыл бұрын

    Part of me thinks that Azathoth acts as a sort of cosmic "engine" for Yog's universe/multiverse, Aza has no thoughts of his own and what he creates is managed by Yog and Nyarlathotep

  • @ChurchofCthulhu

    @ChurchofCthulhu

    2 жыл бұрын

    exactly. Azathoth is akin to the Greek myth of Chaos.

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze23582 жыл бұрын

    I don't blame anyone for assuming Azathoth and Yog-Sothoth are, in some way, connected. Their names very clearly have some etymological connection. However, such a postulation is largely unsupported.

  • @DalokiMauvais
    @DalokiMauvais9 ай бұрын

    Fascinating! I'm especially happy to find someone who pronounces "Nyarlathotep" the same way I always have. (Not "Kadath," though.) Try watching this with closed craptioning on. It's a hoot. "Azathoth" keeps coming out as "azerthof" and similar things. (It got "Nyarlathotep" right! That must prove ours is the correct pronunciation.) Didn't get "Dunsany" right even once.

  • @miskatonicuniversityavclub202
    @miskatonicuniversityavclub202 Жыл бұрын

    I'm currently writing a re imagining of the lovecraft universe in general. It will he authentic and all that changes are human characters and certain events. But it's gonna be big, I hope.

  • @eggroll3055

    @eggroll3055

    Жыл бұрын

    Keep me updated!

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