The better way to illustrate this scene would have been to simply have two AI's play the game against each other once the captains took over. I know they didn't have a professional chess player on standby to make this scene, but there's no reason they could have just made literal computers play against once another. Heck, they could have just fed the board information into something like "next best move" for each turn.
@Sam-py9qq
Ай бұрын
Or just copy a real historical grandmaster game which is what most non-embarassing chess media scenes do
@bakayar0192 ай бұрын
0:22 Suzune : I feel like I'll win this Tsukishiro : Nah I'd Interfere
@amandagreatfull5808Ай бұрын
Those who knows chess💀
@lemur_vhds
12 күн бұрын
Yeah, i dont know how I feel now
@markdaryllecampehios9221
3 күн бұрын
They made it look like an epic match lmao
@fall1307Ай бұрын
i like how the op starts as soon as koji steps in
@nisa66037 күн бұрын
And some mfs genuinely think these frauds could beat stockfish, magnus, hikaru 😂😂😂😂
@blackroyaltyclub-concretz97244 ай бұрын
I was disappointed with the chess game. That was not a brilliant game. Instead of Sakayanagi's move Qxf3 (Queen on g4 takes Horse at f3), she should have move Bxf3 (Bishop on c6 takes Horse at f3) because this move is an unstoppable victory for black. Ayanokoji played a losing game. Ayanokoji's move Nxe7 (Horse on f5 take Horse on e7) was a big blunder for Ayanokoji. The author did not study this game thoroughly. A big flaw in anime adaptation.
@stranger5783
3 ай бұрын
They( a third party cheated )changed the move ayanokoji inputted
@KumaNicol
3 ай бұрын
The Author didn't even specify moves in the Light Novel, this was an Anime Only addition cause just dialogue would have felt off. Bro went full 🤓 not even knowing that Kouji's move was a false one made by a third party to make sure he lost the match.
@radhakirshan20
2 ай бұрын
Pawn to G3 would easily stop the attack if the bishop takes
@Xenearsa
2 ай бұрын
@@radhakirshan20Qh3 and you have no defence against Qg2 mate. Anime showed only how the last move had been changed, but if you look for true computer analysis of this game you will see how many mistakes they both made.
@siraj_a.r.411
2 ай бұрын
Well the animators are not high level chess players, so wat do you expect
@silentdrei2512 ай бұрын
they should've copied a gm"s game instead of that sh*tty game like it's hard to take both of them seriously as this supposedly geniuses if I (a 900 elo player) can easily tell that I had better games than those, they should've atleast be around 2000+ elo
@matiasemanuel9109
2 ай бұрын
no need to copy, just put two ia chess computer playing a game at 2600 rating and thats all... you dont need people
@toragic3432
Ай бұрын
@@matiasemanuel9109 they literally just needed to just use stockfish 20 on both sides and copy the moves used 😭
@brianhsieh1491
Ай бұрын
@@toragic3432 they tried to create like a "reverse queen sac" when they could have just use stockfish...
@Spitfire0982 ай бұрын
Bros even been mocked by some chess players
@Its_me822Ай бұрын
0:27 If you look closely at the bishop he teleported to pin the knight (look at the game before she played d3 but her bishop is at b5)
@Posic_26 күн бұрын
3:15 white is losing but black blundered qxf3 (Black could have taken the knight with the bishop and could easily win the game after that; note that bxf3 is not forced checkmate since there's qe8 followed by qe4 sacrificing the queen then after bxe4, white could play f3 to not lose the game). It's white to move and the crushing move for white is Qg5 (which I'm not sure if it's played in the series). It is both a protecting and a threatening checkmate since it protects g2 pawn and threatens checkmate on g7. If black hxg5 then white could take the black queen and there's no forced mate because the black pawn would block the rook from checking the white king and white would be up a whole rook from winning the black queen, but if white doesn't take the queen then it's a forced mate for white(Qxg7#). You can see from this position 3:34 that the black queen took on f3 and white didn't have to take back at all(In the series, White took the Black queen, which was a big blunder, leading to a forced mate after Black's rook moved to g6, followed by Bxf3). I haven't watched the series but I really like chess a lot and I hope you guys understand what I am trying to pinpoint 😅
@spellbrand477
19 күн бұрын
Qg5 was Ayanokoji’s original move, but the director intentionally send wrong move to Horikita. It’s explained after this scene.
@mortazazaman64192 ай бұрын
The anime is trying to push so hard that ayankoju as a jenius but tuis game just proves he is dumb
@campogary7602 ай бұрын
In This Game If Tsukishiro Didn't Interfere You Can See The 4 Brilliant Moves That Executed By Ayanokoji ,
@Rootttt111
Ай бұрын
and he sacrifices THE ROOOCK
@user-gj1ce2dg6q2 ай бұрын
このシーン好き
@xervislane7702 ай бұрын
3:11 So... My elo is around 900-1000. I am not the best. But even I know that knight to e7 is a hard blunder. Rook takes knight and if white queen takes the rook. Black bishop can take the knight on f3, making it a forced mate with queen to g2. Please correct me if I am wrong.
@squish628
2 ай бұрын
white was heavily losing anyway, Sakayanagi kinda blundered playing Qxf3 while Bxf3 existed and basically forced mate, since the only defense g3 doesn't work because of Qh3
@xervislane770
2 ай бұрын
@@squish628sorry. What do you mean Qf3? That just blunders a queen for no reason? You can't play it anyway because the knight is there.
@xervislane770
2 ай бұрын
@@squish628I don't think she was losing. White could have taken the rook instead of the knight. Then tried the rook trade by moving Rd1. The only losing move was taking the bishop with Ke7 because than queen can no longer defend the f3. Edit. Nevermind. Then black can defend with Bf6.
@brianhsieh1491
Ай бұрын
@@xervislane770 nah bro Qf3 wins for white
@xervislane770
Ай бұрын
@@brianhsieh1491Qf3 is impossible. Knight is already there and after Re7 white queen has to move or she gets taken for free.
@jotarokujo4250Ай бұрын
Chess isnt popular in japan. Make sense why the anime wouldnt focus on that. Yall are making a big deal out of it
@rodrigocantu4454
26 күн бұрын
yeah man, but this two are supposed to be chess "genius" and this game did not prove it
@user-lg2vb2mi5n
26 күн бұрын
In Japan, we play shogi more than chess. There is a fixed image in Japan that people who play chess are smart and have leadership.
@Stop1601
5 күн бұрын
“Sakayanagi practiced chess her entire life and is a genius,” “Ayanokouji can compete with the strongest chess engines and beat the aforementioned chess veteran,” I’m sorry, how the fuck isn’t this garbage game a big deal?
@yamino9saiАй бұрын
I don’t get why people are complaining. I know this is supposed to be an anime about smart people, but it’s still an anime. It’s supposed to be entertaining, not accurate. If they spent their times doing accurate maths like real life it would boring as hell.
@Sam-py9qq
Ай бұрын
"Smart" scenes need to be logical to be believable. If not it breaks immersion. If they got every calculation wrong in the mental maths section they would also look stupid as they do here. Avcuracy clearly does matter
@musted.2 ай бұрын
nah bro i evaluated this match with the engine and this was like, a 100 elo game 💀
@nisa6603
2 ай бұрын
More like 500
@siraj_a.r.411
2 ай бұрын
Most of the game was played by horikita, except like the last few moves. If ayanokoji was playing from the start, things would have been different. Also, this is anime, how do you even expect a gm level game in an anime? Neither the author nor the animators are gms in chess.. so its natural.
@nisa6603
2 ай бұрын
@@siraj_a.r.411 They could have just copy a GM game and ayanokoji was also kinda trash tbh (blundered 2 times)
@duck20484
2 ай бұрын
@@siraj_a.r.411you don't need effort or money to just get a GM game feom online (they are there for everyone to see!) in fact it takes less effort to copy paste a game from online than to make up a garbage game with illegal moves and blunders... Like they say, a character can only be as smart as the author of the said character..
@rodrigocantu4454
26 күн бұрын
@@siraj_a.r.411 yeah man but they are supposed to be chess "genius" but this game did not prove it
@ROYALZ111Ай бұрын
wtf?ci thought they were supposed to be "geniuses" but this game doesn't cut it :P
@thisisaperson1536
Ай бұрын
(some guy changed his moves, just assume he *was* gonna pull off a big brain play but some third wheel changed his move and ruined everything)
@brianhsieh1491
Ай бұрын
@@thisisaperson1536 either way this game in general just too bad
@fortnitehero3579
20 күн бұрын
@@thisisaperson1536the move ayanokouji was going to play was a brilliant move and not even the best chess players could see it
@thisisaperson1536
20 күн бұрын
@@brianhsieh1491 yea cuz some dude ruined it my changing ayanokoji's move from a good one to a sh_t one
@kador7182Ай бұрын
Why is chess in anime always this bad. Like I will never forget the king sacrifice in code geass
@rektarduno9153
Ай бұрын
Yeah, code geass is way more bad than this.
@yuki-tan
13 күн бұрын
code geass was very well written scene with king sacrifice on schneizel part. if you think thats stupid you dont understand their motives or point of that game.
@rektarduno9153
13 күн бұрын
@@yuki-tan I know their motive but it still looks stupid for me.
@Stop1601
5 күн бұрын
@@yuki-tanAnd you don’t understand apostrophes. It wasn’t a good scene because ignoring technical skill for characters that are both hailed as chess prodigies is stupid.
@crew16102 ай бұрын
It's a 500 elo game
@wanglingsus
Ай бұрын
Nuh uh 200 elo game
@ara5090
Ай бұрын
@@wanglingsusnah 10 elo
@tumis4547Ай бұрын
Baka mitai Chess
@user-jp6zv3xo8b2 ай бұрын
個人ヒロイ鈴音可愛い❤
@dwacheopus2 ай бұрын
I like this episode
@user-rq9ix8db7z4 ай бұрын
あやのアリス山田いいよねたね
@blackroyaltyclub-concretz9724
4 ай бұрын
English please
@lemur_vhds12 күн бұрын
This was Best battle i ever watched, Qxf3 is fucking mindblowing, i can die now
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The better way to illustrate this scene would have been to simply have two AI's play the game against each other once the captains took over. I know they didn't have a professional chess player on standby to make this scene, but there's no reason they could have just made literal computers play against once another. Heck, they could have just fed the board information into something like "next best move" for each turn.
@Sam-py9qq
Ай бұрын
Or just copy a real historical grandmaster game which is what most non-embarassing chess media scenes do
0:22 Suzune : I feel like I'll win this Tsukishiro : Nah I'd Interfere
Those who knows chess💀
@lemur_vhds
12 күн бұрын
Yeah, i dont know how I feel now
@markdaryllecampehios9221
3 күн бұрын
They made it look like an epic match lmao
i like how the op starts as soon as koji steps in
And some mfs genuinely think these frauds could beat stockfish, magnus, hikaru 😂😂😂😂
I was disappointed with the chess game. That was not a brilliant game. Instead of Sakayanagi's move Qxf3 (Queen on g4 takes Horse at f3), she should have move Bxf3 (Bishop on c6 takes Horse at f3) because this move is an unstoppable victory for black. Ayanokoji played a losing game. Ayanokoji's move Nxe7 (Horse on f5 take Horse on e7) was a big blunder for Ayanokoji. The author did not study this game thoroughly. A big flaw in anime adaptation.
@stranger5783
3 ай бұрын
They( a third party cheated )changed the move ayanokoji inputted
@KumaNicol
3 ай бұрын
The Author didn't even specify moves in the Light Novel, this was an Anime Only addition cause just dialogue would have felt off. Bro went full 🤓 not even knowing that Kouji's move was a false one made by a third party to make sure he lost the match.
@radhakirshan20
2 ай бұрын
Pawn to G3 would easily stop the attack if the bishop takes
@Xenearsa
2 ай бұрын
@@radhakirshan20Qh3 and you have no defence against Qg2 mate. Anime showed only how the last move had been changed, but if you look for true computer analysis of this game you will see how many mistakes they both made.
@siraj_a.r.411
2 ай бұрын
Well the animators are not high level chess players, so wat do you expect
they should've copied a gm"s game instead of that sh*tty game like it's hard to take both of them seriously as this supposedly geniuses if I (a 900 elo player) can easily tell that I had better games than those, they should've atleast be around 2000+ elo
@matiasemanuel9109
2 ай бұрын
no need to copy, just put two ia chess computer playing a game at 2600 rating and thats all... you dont need people
@toragic3432
Ай бұрын
@@matiasemanuel9109 they literally just needed to just use stockfish 20 on both sides and copy the moves used 😭
@brianhsieh1491
Ай бұрын
@@toragic3432 they tried to create like a "reverse queen sac" when they could have just use stockfish...
Bros even been mocked by some chess players
0:27 If you look closely at the bishop he teleported to pin the knight (look at the game before she played d3 but her bishop is at b5)
3:15 white is losing but black blundered qxf3 (Black could have taken the knight with the bishop and could easily win the game after that; note that bxf3 is not forced checkmate since there's qe8 followed by qe4 sacrificing the queen then after bxe4, white could play f3 to not lose the game). It's white to move and the crushing move for white is Qg5 (which I'm not sure if it's played in the series). It is both a protecting and a threatening checkmate since it protects g2 pawn and threatens checkmate on g7. If black hxg5 then white could take the black queen and there's no forced mate because the black pawn would block the rook from checking the white king and white would be up a whole rook from winning the black queen, but if white doesn't take the queen then it's a forced mate for white(Qxg7#). You can see from this position 3:34 that the black queen took on f3 and white didn't have to take back at all(In the series, White took the Black queen, which was a big blunder, leading to a forced mate after Black's rook moved to g6, followed by Bxf3). I haven't watched the series but I really like chess a lot and I hope you guys understand what I am trying to pinpoint 😅
@spellbrand477
19 күн бұрын
Qg5 was Ayanokoji’s original move, but the director intentionally send wrong move to Horikita. It’s explained after this scene.
The anime is trying to push so hard that ayankoju as a jenius but tuis game just proves he is dumb
In This Game If Tsukishiro Didn't Interfere You Can See The 4 Brilliant Moves That Executed By Ayanokoji ,
@Rootttt111
Ай бұрын
and he sacrifices THE ROOOCK
このシーン好き
3:11 So... My elo is around 900-1000. I am not the best. But even I know that knight to e7 is a hard blunder. Rook takes knight and if white queen takes the rook. Black bishop can take the knight on f3, making it a forced mate with queen to g2. Please correct me if I am wrong.
@squish628
2 ай бұрын
white was heavily losing anyway, Sakayanagi kinda blundered playing Qxf3 while Bxf3 existed and basically forced mate, since the only defense g3 doesn't work because of Qh3
@xervislane770
2 ай бұрын
@@squish628sorry. What do you mean Qf3? That just blunders a queen for no reason? You can't play it anyway because the knight is there.
@xervislane770
2 ай бұрын
@@squish628I don't think she was losing. White could have taken the rook instead of the knight. Then tried the rook trade by moving Rd1. The only losing move was taking the bishop with Ke7 because than queen can no longer defend the f3. Edit. Nevermind. Then black can defend with Bf6.
@brianhsieh1491
Ай бұрын
@@xervislane770 nah bro Qf3 wins for white
@xervislane770
Ай бұрын
@@brianhsieh1491Qf3 is impossible. Knight is already there and after Re7 white queen has to move or she gets taken for free.
Chess isnt popular in japan. Make sense why the anime wouldnt focus on that. Yall are making a big deal out of it
@rodrigocantu4454
26 күн бұрын
yeah man, but this two are supposed to be chess "genius" and this game did not prove it
@user-lg2vb2mi5n
26 күн бұрын
In Japan, we play shogi more than chess. There is a fixed image in Japan that people who play chess are smart and have leadership.
@Stop1601
5 күн бұрын
“Sakayanagi practiced chess her entire life and is a genius,” “Ayanokouji can compete with the strongest chess engines and beat the aforementioned chess veteran,” I’m sorry, how the fuck isn’t this garbage game a big deal?
I don’t get why people are complaining. I know this is supposed to be an anime about smart people, but it’s still an anime. It’s supposed to be entertaining, not accurate. If they spent their times doing accurate maths like real life it would boring as hell.
@Sam-py9qq
Ай бұрын
"Smart" scenes need to be logical to be believable. If not it breaks immersion. If they got every calculation wrong in the mental maths section they would also look stupid as they do here. Avcuracy clearly does matter
nah bro i evaluated this match with the engine and this was like, a 100 elo game 💀
@nisa6603
2 ай бұрын
More like 500
@siraj_a.r.411
2 ай бұрын
Most of the game was played by horikita, except like the last few moves. If ayanokoji was playing from the start, things would have been different. Also, this is anime, how do you even expect a gm level game in an anime? Neither the author nor the animators are gms in chess.. so its natural.
@nisa6603
2 ай бұрын
@@siraj_a.r.411 They could have just copy a GM game and ayanokoji was also kinda trash tbh (blundered 2 times)
@duck20484
2 ай бұрын
@@siraj_a.r.411you don't need effort or money to just get a GM game feom online (they are there for everyone to see!) in fact it takes less effort to copy paste a game from online than to make up a garbage game with illegal moves and blunders... Like they say, a character can only be as smart as the author of the said character..
@rodrigocantu4454
26 күн бұрын
@@siraj_a.r.411 yeah man but they are supposed to be chess "genius" but this game did not prove it
wtf?ci thought they were supposed to be "geniuses" but this game doesn't cut it :P
@thisisaperson1536
Ай бұрын
(some guy changed his moves, just assume he *was* gonna pull off a big brain play but some third wheel changed his move and ruined everything)
@brianhsieh1491
Ай бұрын
@@thisisaperson1536 either way this game in general just too bad
@fortnitehero3579
20 күн бұрын
@@thisisaperson1536the move ayanokouji was going to play was a brilliant move and not even the best chess players could see it
@thisisaperson1536
20 күн бұрын
@@brianhsieh1491 yea cuz some dude ruined it my changing ayanokoji's move from a good one to a sh_t one
Why is chess in anime always this bad. Like I will never forget the king sacrifice in code geass
@rektarduno9153
Ай бұрын
Yeah, code geass is way more bad than this.
@yuki-tan
13 күн бұрын
code geass was very well written scene with king sacrifice on schneizel part. if you think thats stupid you dont understand their motives or point of that game.
@rektarduno9153
13 күн бұрын
@@yuki-tan I know their motive but it still looks stupid for me.
@Stop1601
5 күн бұрын
@@yuki-tanAnd you don’t understand apostrophes. It wasn’t a good scene because ignoring technical skill for characters that are both hailed as chess prodigies is stupid.
It's a 500 elo game
@wanglingsus
Ай бұрын
Nuh uh 200 elo game
@ara5090
Ай бұрын
@@wanglingsusnah 10 elo
Baka mitai Chess
個人ヒロイ鈴音可愛い❤
I like this episode
あやのアリス山田いいよねたね
@blackroyaltyclub-concretz9724
4 ай бұрын
English please
This was Best battle i ever watched, Qxf3 is fucking mindblowing, i can die now
@anonimo98703
2 күн бұрын
Qxf3 was a blunder