I read about the development of the Axial-Flow in Red Power. They had a few test 1460's IH sent out to actual working farms with a team of mechanics and engineers with a direct phone line to the main engineering department in Chicago. They'd run the test 1460's and phone in minor changes and improvements as the main design worked almost perfectly out of the factory. RIP IHC, a brand that seemed to have the farmer in mind first and foremost. I still see many of the 1400 series still out there today earning their keep. The design was actually simpler than most conventional cylinder type combines with less moving parts and easier access.

@Octanepress

Жыл бұрын

Hello Tom. Great stuff. Perhaps you would enjoy our book Red Combines? It has lots of detail about 1400 series development--including the fact that they tested the rotor working under glass, and sent high-speed film of it to the local TV station each morning to be developed. This showed them how the material flowed. You can find the book at octanepress.com/product-category/books-red-tractors-caseIH-farmall-mccormickdeering-internationalharvester

@tomservo5347

Жыл бұрын

@@Octanepress Sweet! I'll definitely check it out.

I miss international harvester. What a good brand

@Blazefork

2 жыл бұрын

They were on the edge of complete domination of the industry, this combine design plus the 88 series tractors were second to none, bad timing with the farm crisis and labor.

@ValleyViewDairy

Жыл бұрын

Not as good as deere

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@Rokonroller

Жыл бұрын

You mean Thank you IHC 😉

The PAMI reports show that the IH 1460 had more capacity than the Gleaner L2.

@SilverGleaner

3 жыл бұрын

You can't compare one year to the next on two different combines. You have to compare to the reference combine used at the same time in the same field. The L2 was 1.2 to 1.5 times greater in capacity than the reference combine. What was the difference between the 1460 and the PAMI reference combine? One other thing, I bet I know how to set and operate the L2 and 1660 better than those who tested the combines for PAMI., although only in soybeans and corn because we no longer harvest small grain here in my part of Minnesota.

@glenirwin1110

3 жыл бұрын

@@SilverGleaner Just saying what they said. Didn't say they were right.

@Blazefork

2 жыл бұрын

I know for a fact that a 1480 will cut time and a half as much as an L2, can't speak for the 60 tho

It never matched the capacity of the Gleaner N5, N6 or N7 and the 1460 was no match for an L2..... a 1480 was more in line with an L2.

@glenirwin1110

3 жыл бұрын

The L2 is a famously good machine. But weren't they about 15 grand more than a 1480?

@SilverGleaner

3 жыл бұрын

@@glenirwin1110 no they were slightly less than a 1480. I have old price books with resale values too. Back in the Gleaner haydays Gleaner was number one in resale. My books verify that. I got them from an old CaseIH dealer I used to work at.

@glenirwin1110

3 жыл бұрын

@@SilverGleaner what did both sell for new? I am curious I really think the later model L2 have a rep as a great combine. Hard to tell old prices some info is for rear wheel assist and some is for standard but never can really tell which is which.

@glenirwin1110

3 жыл бұрын

@@SilverGleaner Okay, I'm dumb. I was looking at a Canadian Gleaner price info. Canadian dollars. Still curious what those combines sold for new in U.S.

@SilverGleaner

3 жыл бұрын

@@glenirwin1110 My 1978 "Official Guide Tractors and Farm Equipment" put out by the National Farm & Power Equipment Dealers Association says the 1977 price of an L2 5 speed gear drive Grain combine with 13 foot header, 130 horse power, 120 bushel bin listed for $37,081 and the Corn/Soybean was $38,655. Average resale in 1978 of a 1976 L2 Grain was $26.472 and the Corn/Soybean was $27,595. The 1977 Deere 7700 4 speed gear drive Grain combine with 13 foot header, 128 horse power, 129 bushels bin, listed for $36,722. Average resale in 1978 of a 1976 7700 Grain & C/S was $25,063.. The list price for a 1977 915 Hydro Grain combine with 13 foot header, 150 horse power, 146 bushel bin listed for $40,192. All 915s had hydrostatic drive, no gear drive. I've never sat in an L2 with the 5 speed gear drive. Most were hydrostatic. Resale in 1978 for a 1976 915 Grain & C/S was $27,239. Resale in 1978 of a 1975 L Grain was $24,316 A 1975 L C/S was $24,854 A 1975 7700 Grain & C/S was $22,985 A 1975 915 Grain & C/S was $24,852 A 1972 L Grain was $18,796 A 1972 L Corn/Soybean was $19,219 A 1972 7700 Grain & C/S was $17,694 A 1972 915 Grain & C/S was $18,841 An 815 , specification wise, was more in line with a Gleaner L or a Deere 7700. A 1977 815 Grain combine with 13 foot header, 122 horse power, 133 bushel bin listed for $34,897. A 1977 815 C/S listed for $36,202 Resale in 1978 of a 1976 815 Grain & Corn/Soybean was $24,117 A 1975 815 Grain & Corn/Soybean was $22,009 A 1972 815 Grain & Corn/Soybean was $16698 (Deere nor IH are separating the Grain resale from a Corn/Soybean resale which, IMO raises the resale price compared to the Gleaner Grain only) Considering all the features (push button for almost everything) on an L2 vs a 7700, the list price of an L2 looks even better. The book doesn't list any IH rotary prices. I assume because 1977 production of IH rotaries were a pilot run. I should have listed this in a more organized manner but I hope you can understand it all.

I have a conventional and an axial flow, 90% of what says this man is bullcrap ahha😅

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