So which is the real amp? Device A or B? Will reveal in the comments as soon as this hits...I dunno. 30 likes? 00:00 Clean comparisons 13:04 With Drive comparisons

Both sound great! While there might be a subtle difference (I listened to on good monitors), it shows how both are wonderful in their own way. Neither one can totally replace the other, but for workflow and consistency it shows how wonderful Axe FX is! I just picked up the FM3 and can’t wait to deeper dive with it. This gives me hope as I look to play with warm, realistic tones and this nails it.

Great video! Modeling really has landed. LOVE the Fractal stuff.

Love that hooded blanket you're wearing. Nice demo!

Hey Jonathan - that is a great comparison! I got it almost wrong in the first place, which i guess underlines how well you tweaked the sounds ... nice playing as always ! cheers

I'm mesmerized by your hoodie so I can't tell the difference.

When you played the loop at around 9:30 they sounded near identical.

The differences were small, often indiscernible. In the last few examples, I finally started hearing a pattern. Device B sounded a little more even and thicker in the mids and lower frequencies. The highs in Device A sounded a little clearer. These are the difference I generally notice between Modelers and Real Amps, if I can hear anything. So, I'm guessing that Device B was the real Amp. What came to mind after listening to all the examples: Device A is like sitting on a nice chair, and Device B is like sitting on a nice couch. Somehow, Device B is a little more comfortable. 🤷 "Match EQ" would probably reveal the differences.

You are right ! Thank you !

I used to be obsessed with these kind of comparison videos in the past. Now, if i’m listening to the comparison (soloed, not in a mix) on my iPhone speakers in a fairly silent room and I have a hard time telling the difference…. This is totally GOOD enough for recording and practicing/jamming with headphones. While i don’t think about these things, i can play more guitar, keep getting better and writting new cool stuff. For live jams/gigs, I agree that a real tube amp/cab setup is whole other experience, since the sound projection is pretty much the only factor that we can’t reproduce. Still, thanks for this comparison John!

Did your speaker impedance curve in the FM9 match the x-load? If not, this could account for some difference in sound and touch response. Either way excellent, inspiring playing… subscribed.

So hard to tell to be fair.. I suppose it’s the feel of the amp volume and what the FM3 is going through.. Slightly more snap on the amp to my ears but both sound great 👌👌👌

The thing that really stands out is that you sound better and better.

Out here in youtubeland, it’s hard to hear any differences. After listening for a while, I think Device A sounds slightly brighter than Device B. When you added overdrive, the Fractal sounded a little brighter or clearer than the Lonestar, so I’m guessing Device B is the amp. Can you do the “opposite” experiment, run the Fractal thru the cab and speakers of the Lonestar? Nice sweatshirt, Christmas present?

A sounded better to me. Keep in mind though, B might sound relatively better in person since I am assuming it is being mic'd. Both sound perfectly fine.

John. What speaker monitors are you using in the room?

Either way, please share your AXE FX preset, they both sound great.

That first slide, could have sworn "boys of summer" was coming PS for live performance, it doesn't matter. Grab the small thing unless you need to get you bicep workout in for the day and you just hate your back

B is the amp, its got a warmth and fatness to it that the fractal lacks. The fractals also got that exaggerated compressed pick attack thing going on that doesn't happen with real amps, unmistakable once you clock it. Very close though

That hoodie looks superwarm

Close enough for it not to matter imo, got myself on the FM9 waitlist now! The only things that put me off moving to modelling are; option paralysis and also just being able to jam and create sounds on the fly like I can with my amp and a bunch of pedals, don't like the thought of menu diving just to get to the sound in my head

The only thing that gave up the amp (device B) is that I could hear a bit more hum with clean sound.

There seems to be more 'punch' in the attack of Device A's sound. It's not as frequent and as obvious in Device B. I'm not sure which is which, but A seems more realistic based on what I've said.

I can't for the life of me get the Lonestar models in the Axe FX to sound right. It's sooooo muddy and waaay too much low end, even when I turn the bass all the way down, like to the point where it makes my speakers crackle, and they can usually handle low end well, any thoughts?

I n a KZread video there is a compressed nature that fools your ears in a comparison like this. the other thing that will affect the sound is the speaker. The Lonestar speakers will sound much different. when you take the Lonestar speakers out of the equation you change the amp. The Axe Fx is so close that other cabs or IR's will make the amp and the model so close most won't be able to tell the difference. I could not tell with the KZread sound maybe if I was in the room but not from the video. Most of what most people here is perceived in their minds. most people will say the real amp is better because modeling sondes "digital". Digital is a buzz word that people us to impress other people. This video is very well made, and he is trying to avoid "buzz" words and us more descriptive terms to help other people perceive what he is hearing in the room.

Those are some subtle differences.

I'm assuming B is the amp because it has that white noise... So I guess I cheated. I could totally hear how they reacted differently based on how hard you played after you mentioned it. There is a bloom and compression that changes the attack of the amp. That is the main difference I notice between my stomp and my amps through the fractal load box (which is awesome btw). That might be what most people quantify as "feel", how the tone changes as you dig in or lighten up. Has nothing to do with feeling anything, unless you are sitting on your monitors....

@producermind9030

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah me too. B has the white noise of a real amp.

Device A = Axe FX. Device B = Real Amp.

@johnnathancordy

2 жыл бұрын

Corrext

Device B has got some hum on it. Device A is a bit more transparent, if that is a thing. I prefer A - I don‘t know if that‘s the amp though. 😅

@johnnathancordy

2 жыл бұрын

Yeh the hum is on the amp!

What`s the name of the Lonestar preset that you use for axe fx 3, after loading a lot of your presets?

@johnnathancordy

2 жыл бұрын

Pick a name and I'll recreate it for axe FX and fm3?

@thomashallberg3342

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnnathancordy I´m interested in the preset "Mesa Boogie Lonestar-example"

The envelope you mention is the tube amp blooming

Device B definitely has some warmer mid character but it is barely noticeable. With some tweaks, Device A (what i suppose is Axe FX) could sound exactly like that, which few realize is true.

B has a thunk to the attack not present in A. Also, B feels far more alive and dynamic but that may have just been the playing.

Device b seems a little more scooped and a little louder. I don't care which is which but I prefer B. Actually which one I prefer changes based on the clip.

@MoreMeRecording

2 жыл бұрын

e.g A is considerably louder @ 13:13 . I preferred B overall and would be surprised if it wasn't the amp.

Typing this before I know which is which. I'm not gonna guess, but say I slightly prefer A, it seems to have a bit more top end (to me).

A is the fractal. B is the amp.

@johnnathancordy

2 жыл бұрын

Correct!

Close enough for me to choose the lighter option. 😀

Is that the most comfortable hoodie IN THE WORLD?

@johnnathancordy

2 жыл бұрын

That's the real question

I hope that A is real amp.

Of course they both sound the same…theyre going through the same converters putting a tube amp in a fractal fx loop

I could just about hear the pulse of the guitar amp. The axe FX is very close though . Both tools are amazing. There’s something special about a guitar and cranked amp .

I sound equally as bad on both my Axe Fx and with my amps!

No, I personally can't.