Avenging Varus - The Fate of Arminius and Germanicus (17 AD)
We conclude the epic Avenging Saga with the tale of the fate of Arminius and Germanicus. You can learn more about the history of eastern europe through our sponsor.. Signup for your FREE trial to Wondrium here: ow.ly/aufe30rDCQs
This history documentary is a continuation of our Avenging Varus series.
The Roman Army of Germanicus finally broke the back of the Germanic army of Arminius at the Battle of the Angrivarian Wall in 16 AD. With two massive losses back to back, the tribes of the north now finally began peace talks while Arminius and his closest companions slunk away to lick their wounds. The following year was looking to be another massive showdown between Germanicus and Arminius. However a letter from Emperor Tiberius declared an end to the fighting, drawing a line in the sand which would define the fate of the region for centuries to come. In the aftermath we follow the fates of Arminius and Germanicus.
Be sure to check out these other history documentary episodes from our Avenging Varus series which covers the prior chapters of the Roman Germanic War:
Avenging Varus Part 1 - Campaigns of Tiberius (10-14 AD)
Avenging Varus Part 2 - Campaigns of Germanicus (14-15 AD)
Avenging Varus Part 3 - Battle of the Long Bridges (15 AD)
Avenging Varus Part 4 - Battle of Idistaviso (16 AD)
Avenging Varus Part 5 - Battle of the Angrivarian Wall (16 AD)
Bibliography and Suggested Reading:
"Campaigns of Germanicus, 13-16 AD" by Ilkka Syvänne
"The Annals" by Cornelius Tacitus
"Roman Soldier Vs Germanic Warrior: 1st Century AD" by Osprey Publishing
"In the Name of Rome" by Adrian Goldsworthy
Research: Chris Das Neves and Eric Tenwolde
Writing: Chris Das Neves
Narration: Invicta
Production: Penta Limited
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@stetsonbullock5113
2 жыл бұрын
One of my fav youtubers dawg
@amfa42
2 жыл бұрын
@invicta what happened ?! I was expecting this video for Saturday breakfast! haha 😄 As always: great video!
@lakshmipraveen8734
2 жыл бұрын
Hi sir, would you like to make video on Achaemenid Empire like like Alexander The Great Documentation which was Blockbuster, if say 'yes' that would make me cool as i am History lover. Thank you sir!!!
@TheCreatorII
2 жыл бұрын
Hey, great video. However, I noticed a small, yet entertaining, spelling mistake at 10:54 on the benefits of the triumph.
@kajolet
2 жыл бұрын
huge pubic morale boost ^^ 10:49
If Germanicus had succeeded the throne and died less suspiciously, I think Caligula would have been a much more sane ruler
@alejandrosakai1744
2 жыл бұрын
But Germanicus' son became a insane Emperor!
@wisdomleader85
2 жыл бұрын
It's hard to say.
@TannerSwizel
2 жыл бұрын
@@wisdomleader85 that it is!
@TannerSwizel
2 жыл бұрын
@@ii121 Philo and Seneca are the only contemporaries of Caligula I know of that have surviving literature, both paint him in a dim light, although Seneca was definitely biased against him. The historians that wrote about him in the decades after his passing relied on texts from other contemporaries that no longer have surviving work. Cassius Dio and Suetonius both paint Caligula in a dim light. There isn't any surviving evidence whether that be first hand, secondary, or tertiary evidence I can think of that backs your claim. If you have sources that debunk Caligula's commonly agreed upon mental state I would love to know them.
@michaeldunne338
2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't one of the older son's have likely become Emperor instead, in such a counterfactual? Not sure they would divide the Empire like Constantine's sons did, but maybe they would have had some co-Emperor system? All food for counterfactual thought ...
10:55 'Huge PUBIC morale boost'...best unintentional laugh of the day for me...
@AyCe
2 жыл бұрын
I mean, it's basically just all about that, no?
@dontmindme5189
2 жыл бұрын
I noticed this as well. Lol still a great documentary but damn.
@ezekielbrockmann114
2 жыл бұрын
I hear 'public' quite clearly.
@cristhianramirez6939
2 жыл бұрын
I am sure Germanicus had access to pubics too
@ericbarry9105
2 жыл бұрын
@@ezekielbrockmann114 Read the fine print
Well, I'm glad Germanicus got to see all the historic sites that people of history nerd over to this day before he died, and how beloved he was by everyone
Germanicus the emperor that never was 😭. Good night sweet Prince.
@NodDisciple1
2 жыл бұрын
And started the path of Calligula's madness. Because of the death of his daddy and him being forced to be raised by the demented murderer of his father.
@tiberiuscave4617
2 жыл бұрын
@@NodDisciple1 Tiberius was certainly not demented, nor, by all the accounts, he murdered Germanicus.
@jonbaxter2254
2 жыл бұрын
He was the Latin Alexander
@Crafty_Spirit
2 жыл бұрын
Sweet prince? I hope you are being sarcastic 🤣
@marseldagistani1989
2 жыл бұрын
@@tiberiuscave4617 it could have been Livia Drusilla who ordered the assassination of Germanicus
It is quite sad to see that both Germanicus and Arminius, rivals and heroes to their respective peoples, died before the age of 40 far from the battlefield.
@marseldagistani1989
2 жыл бұрын
Blame that Viper Livia
@franciscorodriguez2457
Жыл бұрын
I consider my self a roman citizen born and raised in Spain hispania it took the legions 200 years to submit hispania and yes they did hispania gave 3 emperors to the empire I am proud to be a Roman long live rome
@rimshot2270
Жыл бұрын
@@franciscorodriguez2457 They were probably of Italian descent.
@TimL1980
Жыл бұрын
well... in the case of Germanicus he didn't get close enough to die on the battlefield... roman strategy always was to plunder rape and threaten women and children. Their "bravery was just enough to advance on open fields if they were able to deploy their artillery.... a bit like someone else 2000years later in a forest near Aachen where boys and old men commanded a killing ratio of 20:1 until they were showered in artillery fire the cowards brought forward.
@MrBubblecake
2 ай бұрын
@@franciscorodriguez2457Bro the Roman’s were from Italy not from Spain. Stop trynna claim our culture lol
This has been one of the most unique and enjoyable historical sagas I've ever watched. I have such appreciation for the commitment and effort that had to be put in to create this.
"The most worthless of mankind are not afraid to condemn in others the same disorders which they allow in themselves; and can readily discover some nice difference in age, character, or station, to justify the partial distinction" - Edward Gibbon
Germanicus dying after just 2 years of Arminiu's death really reminds me of Scipio Africanus, who also died not long after Hannibal.
@Arbiter099
2 жыл бұрын
Bit similar also to Patton dying not long after WW2
@Xfire209
2 жыл бұрын
You got the order of deaths wrong. Germanicus died 2 years before Arminius died
@publiusscipioafricanus6475
Жыл бұрын
I'm alive, because *Legends* never die
Hoc Est Bellum does Mycale, Invicta does Arminius and Germanicus, Eastern Roman History does Carausius, and HistoryMarche does Majorian. All in one day. ... Beautiful. *:')*
@freedombro6502
2 жыл бұрын
Ita a beautiful thing, what a time to be alive and learning
Germanicus’ early death definitely feels like one of those crossroads of history moments, where things could have gone very differently if he had become Emperor
@markmuller7962
Жыл бұрын
Reminiscent of Alexander the Great isn't it
@witchhazel4135
Жыл бұрын
@@derrickbridges2611Everyone.
@ThatGuyOnFireKnownAsAndrew
13 сағат бұрын
Hilarious how dogshit Rome became after shit boy Germanicus bit the dust 😂😂😂😂
What a crazy well-made series Thank you so much for this series
This whole series is a great. I am now a subscriber. As a romanophile who has studied world history for 21 years I tip my hat to you guys. Great work! 😎👍
@ianjohngonzales4066
Жыл бұрын
Which do you think was a more exciting movie "The Eagle" or "The Lost Legion"?
Emperor Tiberius: "Piso bring me back my Germanicus!"
10:42 Huge "PUBIC" morale boost, I think is a typo.
@marcleblanc5020
2 жыл бұрын
I noticed the same
@joshuaiam485
2 жыл бұрын
Naah..it's so they don't be revolting all the time..makes sense
@Taistelukalkkuna
2 жыл бұрын
Why yes indeed. Legionaires would surely got lots of booty in celebrations.
@elexirghutz9540
2 жыл бұрын
@@marcleblanc5020 😄
@elexirghutz9540
2 жыл бұрын
@@Taistelukalkkuna 😁
I wonder how Germanicus could have been as an emperor. By the standards of the time he seemed like a pretty cool person to be around. I would guess it says quite alot that he could meet with the Parthian King, and distribute control in the east with very little issue.
@tylerdurden3722
2 жыл бұрын
Germanicus was groomed meticulously by Tiberius to become Emperor as soon as possible. Tiberius never wanted to be Emperor and went to great lengths to avoid it. But, while Augustus was alive, all the other alternative relatives were assassinated. So Tiberius groomed more alternatives, declared himself a private citizen and retired from politics. But these individuals were assassinated as well and Augustus forced Tiberius to divorce the love of his life and become his successor. Then Tiberius groomed new replacements, so he could retire early. Germanicus was one of these attempts. It's the reason why Germanicus achieved everything at such a young age. Tiberius fast tracked his grooming. In those early days of the empire, the new "Emperor" still had to run for offices and take part in elections...and had to build up offices one by one to accumulate power. And he had to do this before his ascension to get a headstart. It took Augustus and Tiberius a lifetime to accumulate these political offices. Hence why grooming of a viable successor was required. When Germanicus died, Tiberius became even more depressed and dispised Roman politics even more and isolated himself on the island of Capri. More of his potential groomlings were assassinated. By this time, Tiberius was in a dark place, and managed to successfully groom his last viable remaining relative as an act of final revenge...in the form of Caligula.
Can you imagine the terror of his young son being paraded through the streets of your enemies while they cheered...no telling the horrors visited upon his mother
11:13 That particular detail about the triumph is only supported by one primary source, the triumph of Marcus Aurelius, so it's very possible that it was an addition by him(Because let's face it, it's a very Marcus Aurelius thing to do).
I've so much enjoyed this series, and I thank you for all the time and effort put into this project! The first book I ever wrote, "Soldier of Rome: The Legionary", covers the campaigns of Germanicus and the avenging of Varus. However, my book ends with the Triumph in Rome. I knew very little about Germanicus' exploits in the east over the next two years, so this was doubly fascinating for me. Also, I never believed the stories that Tiberius had a hand in Germanicus' demise. That made absolutely no sense. Germanicus was extremely competent, had immense charisma, and he was loyal. In short, he made Tiberius look good, and the Emperor had already named him his heir, giving precedence over his own son, Drusus. And to think that Germanicus was father of Gaius Caligula, regarded as one of the worst Emperors in Roman history. Plus, he was the elder brother of Emperor Claudius, who is revered as one of the best of the Julio-Claudian Dynasty.
10:48 "Pubic Moral Boost" Huh...not what I thought their priorities would be...
Honest question: if the Romans kept getting their fleets destroyed by storms, why did they keep sailing?
@theholyinquisition389
2 жыл бұрын
Because supplying an army as large as that of Germanicus purely via overland routes that deep into Germania was very difficult if not outright impossible.
@sjonnieplayfull5859
2 жыл бұрын
Because they could not march across the seabed
@mar71n32n0v1lLL0
2 жыл бұрын
Because they had curb-stomped any and all troglodites who dared challenge them, some multiple times, like Carthage. Therefore, if any one of their former, current or potential future enemies realized allmighty Rome was too scared to sail, their monopoly would've been greatly reduced, and they could actually face serious economical and military threats...
Well if you asking of what happened to Thusnelda's son, He was send to an Gladiatorial Ludus and he died on an Gladiatorial fight
@denniseggert211
2 жыл бұрын
That is not backed up, the fate of them is unkown. Tacitus only wrote that Thumelicus grew up in Ravenna and that he would report on their fate "at a proper time". However if he ever finished a writing on them is uncertain, at least it was not found.
@tiberiuscave4617
2 жыл бұрын
@@denniseggert211 The fate of her son would have probably been related in the lost portion of the Annales.
Where are my eagles, Varus!? One of my favourite lines of "I, Claudius".
Man, these more narrative-driven series are some of your finest work, keep it up!
You’re a great sorry teller, I love the Avenging Varus series!
Absolutely fantastic series. I'm very grateful for your work and effort.
What an amazing series! Thank you for all of your time and effort dedicated to putting this together. I’m looking forward to your next series.
Your Avenging Varus series has been excellent, really one of the best so far, together with History Marche's Hannibal. Hats off to you
From Total war to one of the best history channel. Love your works Invicta.
Beautiful series. One of your best so far. Good job. 👍
I truly enjoyed these series. Thank you!
Thank you so much for your work. I am glad to fully understand English and being able to enjoy such wonderful documentaries.
Can you make a series about the Claudian Invasion of Britain at some point? There seems to be almost no content about it to be found on this platform...
@patrickdc8396
2 жыл бұрын
This would be a great subject or the Marcomanni wars, or more Marius and Sulla!
@sergioacevedo2254
2 жыл бұрын
Yes please, that would be great!
Thank you for this series.
LOVED THIS SERIES. MY FAVORITE BY FAR
You are doing such an excellent job. Making learning such a daily pleasure we basically keep yearning for !
I just love those series of yours! Hope I'll be able to watch them again some time later.
TY very much ! What a wonderful work ! TY so much !
So cool to have these ancient stories come to light in such an entertaining way.
Lucky for the Germans that Tiberius found both the wars in Germania economically unimportant and was consciously upset about Germincus popularity. Otherwise Huge parts of Germania would have folded and bowed the knee to Rome.
@marcofigueroa9296
2 жыл бұрын
@white blue brown green it is very ironic indeed. That's the beauty about history it teaches that economic prosperity, military power and culture success is not dependent on Race or a group of people but reserved for those who seek (and value knowledge) and apply it. I accept the message of your comparison but I wouldn't call Italy a ' backwater' nation. Italy is not developed as Germany 💯 but it still 8th biggest economy in the world with some very competitive industries. A better analogy would have been the British Empire in 1815 compared to Afghanistan or USA and Vietnam
Thank you, amazing work as always!
Job well done, this was such a fun series to watch!
Many thanks to everybody who worked on this.
Incredible series. Well done!!
I have asked for this a number of times so here, dear invicta i would be extremely interested in a video that focusus on the Frisi or the frisii. they are the only "tribe" that still exist, has an own province, an own language and an strong cultural heritage. I come across a lot of content where they are passingly mentioned but have yet to find a deep dive in theyre history. With regards yours truly a loving viewer' might this comment find you well
@alucard347
2 жыл бұрын
Second that, would be interesting to see more.
Fantastic history and very well produced. You made an excellent video with outstanding quality. 👏 👍
That was a very good series Invicta very well done!
Awesome series, i learned allot and i enjoyed it. Very well done indeed!
Compared to the life of Germanicus, lord of the rings is a mere bedtime story
Fantastic work as always!
Really enjoyed this series!
Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!
This series has been so good I'm sad to see it come to an end
loved this series man, cant wait for the next one
Dude just watched the series. Soooo happy I found this channel.
So amazing this video list, I enjoyed it a lot,. Thanks a bunch!
Was entertained from 14-17 historical context. Thank you.
Nice concluding clip to the series on avenging Varus.
Yes yes yes thank you! Love the channel and that series wooooow!!!
Thank you for all your work, greetings from Chile!
Great work really, thank you.
awesome series!! couldnt wait for the last episode
Thank you for detailing Germanicus' life after Tuetoburg. It seems like all of the videos I've watched gloss over it, as they rush to get to the story of Caligula.
Thank you Invicta!
I really enjoyed this video. It is indeed not something that I knew much about. Thanks a lot!
Love the channel, you do a great job.
I’ve been looking forward to this
That was incredible!
This series was amazing. Ty
@Shamboo79
2 жыл бұрын
Caligula’s dad. Holy shit
Excellent! Thankyou.
Top tier video as always!
What a great series!
I gnow I´m a year late but this series was amazing. what great entertainment for a long weekend. Thank you for this truly amazing peace of art.
great series!
Thank you for this series. I am currently writing a novel about Thusnelda, so I am doing a lot of research, and these brief but very thorough videos were both entertaining and helpful. Actually, I just visited Kalkriese two days ago, the place where the battle of the Teutoburg Forest most likely happened and I am currently staying at the Weser river, where the remains of a Roman summer camp have been found, which has been dated to have belonged either to Varus' legions or to those of Germanicus (probably on the way to the battle of Idistaviso, which must have happened somewhere a bit north of here.
@weloveTM123
Жыл бұрын
I would love to read it once you're done.
Great end to a great series! Really enjoyed the journey and the teaser about Caligula at the end. Plus, of course, the typographic Easter eggs: "pubic morale" is the best!
I was waiting for this👍
only one word, beautiful!!! thanks for all the series of germanicus and arminius, germanicus was the improve version of julius caesar a realshame the fate that touched him but like always, great men don't last long
Great job !!
Congrats !!! Fantastic !!!
This was an amazing series. Thank you! Could you please make a video about Caligula, comparing different sources of his reign, and the how modern historians view them as true or exaggerated?
Amazing video !
You and King and Generals are my favorites channels much ❤
brilliant series
Thanks for the Halloween upload!
Great story telling
Great Job!
awesome series
The Glory of Rome! Love educational content like this. High regard for all the effort put into creating this presentation.
Great series
Awsome. Congrats.
Loved it!
Good job !
The Avenging Varus Series has been highly amazing overall
Pubic morale boosting the engagement. Nice! :-)
What an amazing end to the great series! This was so profoundly well made, it's painful to understand that the series have ended. If in future, you could uncover the story of Nero, that would be a treat.
Finally new video 😊
Around min 10:50 "huge PUBIC morale boost" :-)
@joshuaiam485
2 жыл бұрын
To prevent revolts..u get?
@Taistelukalkkuna
2 жыл бұрын
Ladies love winners.😀
@harriehausenman8623
2 жыл бұрын
Highlarious!
10:41 Kind of unfortunate spelling mistake there lol
Excellent work Gentlemen