Avenging Pearl Harbor - The Forgotten Turkey Shoot of WW2

In February 1942, Task Force 11 United States Navy aims to raid Rabaul, a recent conquest by Japan. Less than a day before the Americans can launch their strike, the Japanese send out their own aircraft, aiming to sink the USS Lexington. In the Action off Bougainville, luck, skill and luck decide the day.
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- Timecodes -
00:00 - Intro
01:05 - Expert introduction
01:25 - Sources
02:35 - US Navy Strategy & Plans
05:16 - Imperial Japanese Navy Strategy & Plans
07:35 - Preliminary moves
10:41 - The Action: Opening Phase
16:59 - The Action: 2nd Chutai attacks
19:46 - The Action: 1st Chutai attacks
22:09 - The Action: Butch O'Hare - Ace in a Flight
26:13 - Ito's ramming attempt
26:45 - Aftermath
36:48 - Q&A
44:03 - Outro

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  • @MilitaryAviationHistory
    @MilitaryAviationHistory3 жыл бұрын

    *Hope you all enjoyed this one!* Big thanks to Justin Pyke for joining today, you can follow him here: twitter.com/CBI_PTO_History And to Task Force Admiral for providing excellent footage to 'visualize' the action: store.steampowered.com/app/1281220

  • @hodaka1000

    @hodaka1000

    3 жыл бұрын

    I had a great uncle who died before I was born named Robert "Bob" Wilton who was a RAAF pilot who was seconded by the RAF to fly for China before the Japanese entered WWII The only other case of this I've heard of was a Chinese Australian pilot who flew a Chinese Boeing P-26 "Peashooter" against the Japanese Could you find out more about foreign pilots who flew for China other than the American "Flying Tigers" ?

  • @guaporeturns9472

    @guaporeturns9472

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hodaka1000 that sounds like a fascinating story.. I would love to hear more.

  • @hodaka1000

    @hodaka1000

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@guaporeturns9472 Yeah same here Bob was actually an adopted brother of my grandfather and great uncle, he past away in the 1950's the only other thing I know about the story is while he was in China a Germany lady tried to poison him I don't know what he was flying or what he did other than what I've said here I have an uncle "Bob" and a cousin "Bob" named after him

  • @RayRay-mv9wn

    @RayRay-mv9wn

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great work! 6:45 Chitose Ku and Takao Ku: Chitose and Takao were japanese cruisers, does it mean air personel transfered from those ships or is it just coincidence in naming of units?

  • @DrydockDreamsGames

    @DrydockDreamsGames

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RayRay-mv9wn Most Japanese airgroups of the pre-Pacific War era were named after the airfield where they were formed :) Chitose at Chitose, Hokkaido ; Takao airgroup at Takao, Taiwan (a Japanese colony then) - nowadays Kaohsiung. Chitose & Takao (the ships) happened to be named after the cities themselves, so it is a coincidence.

  • @jeko32
    @jeko323 жыл бұрын

    For those unaware - the loss of 133 aircrew in this battle exceeded Japan's aircrew losses at the Battle of Midway (121) and the Battle of the Eastern Solomons (110).

  • @mek1429

    @mek1429

    2 жыл бұрын

    don’t forget the Battle of Santa Cruz islands (148 japanese pilots and aircrew lost)

  • @kenneth9874

    @kenneth9874

    Жыл бұрын

    The loss of trained mechanics and support personnel along with the carriers was most damaging to the ijn

  • @DrydockDreamsGames
    @DrydockDreamsGames3 жыл бұрын

    A big thanks to Chris & Justin for giving us this great opportunity of a smart collab'. Just wanted to point out that, of course, everything you see here in regard of Task Force Admiral is still Work in Progress. A number of assets are not final, and the tech is still being developed - so thank you all in advance for your kind & generous understanding :) Our most sincere thanks to all those who will wishlist us on Steam too, it always helps tremendously with visibility! Cheers and have a great time with 'em two Experten, and see you soon over the Pacific!

  • @MilitaryAviationHistory

    @MilitaryAviationHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for providing the excellent footage, really helps visualize the action! Looking forward to TFA when it comes out soon™ ;)

  • @MilesStratton

    @MilesStratton

    3 жыл бұрын

    TF:A is by far one of my most anticipated games

  • @DrydockDreamsGames

    @DrydockDreamsGames

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MilesStratton Thank you my good man! I certainly do value your kind and knowledgeable support indeed! :P

  • @EstonianShark

    @EstonianShark

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DrydockDreamsGames I'm sure it's online somewhere but what is the target date for release? It can be exact if you deem me worthy enough to become the first to know about it ( :p ) or just year. Hoping to be playing this sometime during 2022 :)

  • @DrydockDreamsGames

    @DrydockDreamsGames

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@EstonianShark Ah well, I wish I could provide you with a satisfying answer - and obviously nobody tells a talking shark to get lost and gets away with it - but I will have to stick to our current policy, which is technically "when it is *well* done". Things will be easier to forecast when we will have a full vertical gameplay slice in our hands, but we're not there just yet, and I hate to make promises I wouldn't be able to 100% keep :) And yes, this is my hope too - to play my own game ASAP ;) Cheers and thanks for your kind support

  • @timonsolus
    @timonsolus3 жыл бұрын

    I think Butch O’Hare’s 5 kills, in the end, turned out to be correct, because in addition to the HK6 flying boat and the 2 G4M1’s that he shot down during the battle, he also damaged 2 more G4M1’s so badly that they were forced to ditch on the way home instead of landing, meaning that those aircraft too were total losses for the Japanese.

  • @seanmac1793

    @seanmac1793

    3 жыл бұрын

    yes but then it gets very hard to attribute them because a damaged aircraft would probably be attacked more than once or what caused fatal damage. sometimes parts of a plane just fail and it has nothing to do with battle damage. it's probable that O'Hare caused the destruction of 5 or maybe even more aircraft. but we can't know for sure

  • @timonsolus

    @timonsolus

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@seanmac1793 : Well, the returning bombers were from the second squadron to attack (as the first was completely wiped out). And the second squadron was only attacked by O'Hare and his wingman. And his wingman never fired a shot because his plane had a fault. That narrows it down to either O'Hare, or anti-aircraft fire from the ships.

  • @seanmac1793

    @seanmac1793

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@timonsolus yes but there is no way we can tell between the 2 because by definition those planes never made it back to base to be examined

  • @SoloRenegade

    @SoloRenegade

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@seanmac1793 Which means those planes were shot down. Therefore, it is reasonable to award O'Hare since he clearly dealt the most damage.

  • @seanmac1793

    @seanmac1793

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SoloRenegade but we can't know which is kinda the point.

  • @hooliator
    @hooliator3 жыл бұрын

    My uncle Eugene Bain was on the Lexington the day she capsized. The crew knew the ship was lost, so he got off well in advance of the turn over. He was then sent to Australia where his brother, my father Phil (also in the Navy aboard the Hercules) found him in a crowd. They were both unusually tall for the 1940s (6'2"), so I imagine finding each other in a crowd was a bit easier then.

  • @cbroz7492

    @cbroz7492

    3 жыл бұрын

    You must be close to my age...71...my dad was stationed in Engkand in 44 and my Uncke Bill had beesputaln shot in France a few weeks after D Day.. dad visited him in the hospital in England. Bill was his future brother in law, but didn't know it at the time...

  • @guaporeturns9472

    @guaporeturns9472

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cbroz7492 I am the strangest generation ever(or non-generation) my dad joined the army at the age of 17 in 1942 , was 82nd Airborne and made(and survived obviously) all four wartime jumps the 82nd was involved in. He’s long gone .. I was born in 66 , making me 55 yrs old. All dads ribbons and medals somehow "disappeared" in the 4-5 days between his death and my arrival at his home... (😡cousins and aunts and uncles) Oh well ,at the end of the day it was just stuff. Wish I would have recorded his war stories when he was alive.. I have already forgotten plenty of them. Take care

  • @cbroz7492

    @cbroz7492

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@guaporeturns9472 ...my dad was in Engkand from Jun 44 until Jul 45...he often talked about his time there but I wish I'd asked more questions...little things I think about now I'd like to ask...questions about his mom's side of the family...always finding questions I forgot to ask before he went home...

  • @guaporeturns9472

    @guaporeturns9472

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cbroz7492 I feel exactly the same.. wish I would have had enough sense to record his life and life’s stories.

  • @828enigma6

    @828enigma6

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@guaporeturns9472 Sorry he has passed. If you can access his military records, you can obtain more if you want to make a display box. But you are right, they're just stuff. Odd how things like that sometimes just disappear.

  • @ottodidact5056
    @ottodidact50563 жыл бұрын

    The Stukas sank 63 ships in the eastern Mediterranean near Crete with few losses.. They were deadly. They were super accurate dive bombers.

  • @Ralph-yn3gr

    @Ralph-yn3gr

    2 жыл бұрын

    They were referring specifically to level bombing by aircraft like the He-111, not dive bombing by the Stuka. You are absolutely correct that the Stuka was a very effective ship-killer, but that's not really the case for the He-111. The Japanese were the only ones to really have any major and consistent success in level bombing against ships, at least until the introduction of guided weapons like the Fritz-X.

  • @kenneth9874

    @kenneth9874

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Ralph-yn3gr ever heard of skip bombing, it proved to be pretty effective

  • @GregStachowski
    @GregStachowski3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the respectful way you presented the film of Ito's bomber, with the cut to black and a moment's silence. It's too easy to forget that behind these grainy old filsm there are real people whose lives were being cut short at that moment, whichever side they were on.

  • @markrenton1093
    @markrenton10933 жыл бұрын

    Butch O'Hare is who Chicago's O'Hare airport is named after.

  • @cryptotharg7400

    @cryptotharg7400

    3 жыл бұрын

    Balls of brass. Right there!

  • @butchoharechicago6657

    @butchoharechicago6657

    3 жыл бұрын

    +@@cryptotharg7400 Not to many Americans would know that.

  • @s.31.l50

    @s.31.l50

    3 жыл бұрын

    They got a F4F on display

  • @butchoharechicago6657

    @butchoharechicago6657

    3 жыл бұрын

    +@@s.31.l50 Not to many Americans know that.

  • @1joshjosh1

    @1joshjosh1

    3 жыл бұрын

    As a Canadian who has flown into that airport twice and is a bit of a rookie historian I'm very glad you shared that with me.

  • @antoniovillanueva308
    @antoniovillanueva3083 жыл бұрын

    I usually keep up with politics, I watch war documentaries to calm down. I know how this story ends so it is less stressful. good work.

  • @brookeshenfield7156

    @brookeshenfield7156

    2 жыл бұрын

    Stressing out over politics is ineffective. Representative democracy leaves us only voting to make a difference. The times between that we are just along for the ride. Glad you have found the Zen of history. A coincidence during January 2020 had me I reading a terrific book about the Spanish Influenza and the scattered and at times unhinged response to the pandemic here in America. To see a pandemic and the societal reactions in much the same way 100 years later has reminded me of Twain and his observation that History does not repeat itself, but it rhymes.

  • @rimshot2270
    @rimshot22703 жыл бұрын

    My father was in the Navy and fought in the Pacific from Pearl Harbor to Okinawa. He never talked about combat. After my own service, I understood why. All honor to all who served in the fight against tyranny.

  • @brabhamfreaman166

    @brabhamfreaman166

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing and, foremost, for your service and I would if I could extend same to your father.

  • @rimshot2270

    @rimshot2270

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@brabhamfreaman166 My son, too. He fought in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Thank you.

  • @douglasstreet7304
    @douglasstreet73043 жыл бұрын

    OUTSTANDING, you young people need to keep our history strong. Thank you.

  • @legoeasycompany
    @legoeasycompany3 жыл бұрын

    It's crazy to think of how far reaching the action of Edward O'Hare was for a single man. If Lexington was damaged enough to have to be sidelined for a few months who knows how the south pacific would have gone all the way to midway. I know the air officer deserves some mention as well as his wing mate but his gunnery saving Lexington must have been impressive to the crew knowing that they were spared damage mostly by him. Also Horay for another video with Justin, more is always better.

  • @MilitaryAviationHistory

    @MilitaryAviationHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, it was by a fine margin that Lexington escaped (likely) damage that day - the skill of the crews invovled, down from rotating the planes in time even with the bad timing, over to the FDO and of course O'Hare!

  • @mikemantho9426

    @mikemantho9426

    3 жыл бұрын

    Definitely worth getting an airport named after him! You can see a tribute to him at O’Hare, including a full size replica of his ‘plane.

  • @PhantomP63

    @PhantomP63

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mikemantho9426 I'm pretty sure the Wildcat on display was salvaged from Lake Michigan. Dozens of F4F and SBDs are still on the bottom from student pilot mishaps off the training carriers Sable and Wolverine.

  • @VersusARCH

    @VersusARCH

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Japanese would have taken a few more islands and that would have been it. Do not buy into the US wartime propaganda for the troops, that is still being repeated in books and documentaries even today, that, say, fall of Guadalcanal would have been a decisive and long-reaching victory for Japan. There were MANY islands like that in the South Pacific and even with all of them in Japanese hands - how would the Japanese cut the sea lanes to Australia? And even if they did - was that the US production center? No. But I am sure that, had the Jalanese attack on the Philippines, Java or Singapore been repelled the narrative would have been that "all would be lost" had they succeeded taking them... Japan's main problem was not the pre-war US fleet. It was the discrepancy in industrial and human potential between Japan and US + having no chance of seriously hitting the US production centers (insufficient shipping, insufficient forces). Japan would have had to manage lopsided win in EVERY MAJOR BATTLE to repel the US 1944. counteroffensive, coming straight from the continental USA, regardless of what happened before.

  • @legoeasycompany

    @legoeasycompany

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@VersusARCH There most likely wouldn't be a Guadalcanal if the scenario above occured, think for a second. Why would Guadalcanal matter or even happen if Japan had a mobile striking force still active. Sure Japan still loses the long run but basically a few chips down in early 1942 would mean the US would lack any abilty to strike back until late 1943. It'd just push back the victory date and cost a bunch more lives and ships

  • @LukoHevia
    @LukoHevia3 жыл бұрын

    You guys make a killer duo. Keep up the good work! PD: And please, keep covering forgotten battles from the early-to-middle period of the Pacific War. It's just so exciting to learn about how difficult those early battles were for the americans. The japanese were a really tough bunch

  • @GlorfindelofGondolin
    @GlorfindelofGondolin2 жыл бұрын

    Loved seeing the Lady Lex and the actions of Butch O’Hare brought to life. Awesome video and I look forward to TFA’s release.

  • @bladerunner1458
    @bladerunner14583 жыл бұрын

    Lost an uncle Clarence at Guadalcanal. My other two uncles were officers in the north Atlantic but don’t talk much of what they did. Excellent presentation of what happened and how lucky we were. Formally I live near O’Hare and have a better understanding of what O’Hara contributed. Thank you

  • @yankeed4793
    @yankeed47933 жыл бұрын

    Superior product, demonstrating the power of this format for pushing the boundaries of historical research. Working with an array of source material then layering on your insightful and objective commentary to present an an in depth (albeit, still condensed, as you note) analysis of an important but relatively little known early war operation. Use of the graphics and Task Force Admiral “reenactments” was well done and added much to being able to follow the complexities of the material. I started watching thinking “I don’t have 45 minutes” and finished with “Wait, what?! It’s over?”. Excellent work, gentlemen, look forward to more!

  • @DrydockDreamsGames

    @DrydockDreamsGames

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great to know that you appreciated the reenactment effort! Thank you kind Sir! :)

  • @mitchellhawkes22
    @mitchellhawkes223 жыл бұрын

    Helluva good story. Brought back to life by sharp visuals and two knowledgeable narrators. Dark day for Japan, but the decimated Betty formation came within 30 yards of crippling Lady Lex.

  • @johnaitken7430
    @johnaitken74303 жыл бұрын

    Justin is truly an expert...and serious historian ‘researcher.

  • @petersouthernboy6327
    @petersouthernboy63273 жыл бұрын

    “Operation Starvation” - the aerial mining campaign using B-29’s in 1945 in the Sea of Japan would be a great topic that was incredibly effective but has received very little historical attention.

  • @petersouthernboy6327

    @petersouthernboy6327

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Fluesterwitz I suppose by 1945 there was little need for pretenses. Japan was literally surrounded and getting pummeled and burnt out on a daily basis.

  • @lurkingcarrier8736

    @lurkingcarrier8736

    3 жыл бұрын

    And people claim the nukes were overkill, that they alone were some kind of unforgivable sin... when the already-implemented doctrine would have resulted in complete societal collapse and the subsequent death of 80%+ of Japan's population due to malnutrition by Q2-1946 had Imperial Japan not surrendered by early Q4-1945.

  • @juniorthompson6085

    @juniorthompson6085

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lurkingcarrier8736 ; Yes Wars Hell anyway you slice it Hope you never see it

  • @zeitgeistx5239

    @zeitgeistx5239

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lurkingcarrier8736 The Japanese civilian government was deeply afraid of a collapse of society and civil order following the mass fire bombings that left hundreds of thousands dead and millions homeless. The urban population were starving to death and many decamped to the country side to forage for food. Even military factories producing aircraft started to notice absenteeism rise rapidly.

  • @thetigerii9506

    @thetigerii9506

    2 жыл бұрын

    So much for the 'good guys' huh

  • @johnlarue2248
    @johnlarue22483 жыл бұрын

    Well analyzed post on the tactics. Here is a little known fact that my late father told me. My dad was a Navy pilot during WWII. Served on the Yorktown and the U.S.S. Kitkun Bay during the Battle of Leyte Gulf. He told me that he was ordered to represent the U.S. Navy during the dedication of an airfield honoring Butch O'Hare. He didn't say who else from the Navy was there. His rank was probably a Lt. Commander. So yes, my dad told me that he took part in the dedicated of O'Hare Airport. He said it wasn't a huge place at that time but apparently as he asid "They got over it."

  • @thatsme9875
    @thatsme98753 жыл бұрын

    I love to see you guys cover Japanese air raids on Broome, Karumba, Cairns, Townsville, Horn Island, Innisfail (all in Mainland Australia)

  • @davidtaylor351

    @davidtaylor351

    3 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget the attack on Darwin, 19-Feb-42. The first bombing raid on Australian soil and the first of many attacks on Darwin! It included some of the same carrier battle groups that hit Pearl Harbour!

  • @thatsme9875

    @thatsme9875

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@davidtaylor351 yes indeed, Darwin suffered many raids.

  • @thatsme9875

    @thatsme9875

    8 ай бұрын

    don't forget attacks on Yeppoon and Mapoon ! In 1991 I visited the Hitachi Golf Club in Hitachi City (the company is named after an old, small town), where they preserve (perfectly manicured) a bomb crater from the USAF bombing raids. On the same trip I visited Hiroshima, but I refused to visit the Peace Park or Ground Zero, as we did not start the war , they did!!!

  • @weissrw1
    @weissrw13 жыл бұрын

    Wow!! Good job. I learned a lot. I'm 67 and my father, uncles and all the men in the neighborhood had fought in the war. It was a big part of my life (even though I wasn't born when all this happened). It is impressive that you two young men put in so much time and study to keep the job of history alive. Thanks.

  • @ishplayswt9292
    @ishplayswt92923 жыл бұрын

    Can’t wait for Task Force Admiral.

  • @DrydockDreamsGames

    @DrydockDreamsGames

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much :)

  • @johnmonash1699

    @johnmonash1699

    3 жыл бұрын

    The flat shaded model renderings look more like a comic book than reality and break the immersion form me, especially when contrasted with all the lighting processing being done on the sea.

  • @DrydockDreamsGames

    @DrydockDreamsGames

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@johnmonash1699 We are not aiming for photorealism, we are a small team that elected to remain within the range of a credible yet obviously imperfect approach to graphics. That is as good as it gets with what we have now (besides lighting improvements) and while making sure that it will work fine on lower end computers. Sorry if it doesn't live up to your expectations, but no worries, to each his own! :) Cheers!

  • @joelmccoy9969
    @joelmccoy99693 жыл бұрын

    This battle is an underrepresented but important battle at the beginning of a long line of tactical and strategic losses. The lack of armor and self-sealing tanks shows the focus of Japanese fighter airplane engineers being focused on the bombing of peacetime non-military targets.

  • @RoaroftheTiger
    @RoaroftheTiger3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting that the "4th' Kokutai (4th Ku) was so named. Then subsequently, the Japanese Navy; recognizes Them as the "Hard Luck Unit". Because according to Traditional Japanese Culture (albeit superstition); the Number '4', is like '13' to Westerners - Bad Luck. But more so, as the Japanese pronunciation of '4', is very close to the pronunciation of Death. Therefore, Number '4' has become synonymous with Death.

  • @visionist7

    @visionist7

    3 жыл бұрын

    Their lucky number is 8

  • @BobSmith-dk8nw

    @BobSmith-dk8nw

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@visionist7 Thus the _Crazy 88_ ? .

  • @visionist7

    @visionist7

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BobSmith-dk8nw not sure lol. I know you can sell the 88th floor in a building for as much as you like to a Japanese or Chinese buyer though.

  • @fazole

    @fazole

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is true in Chinese society too. 44 and 49 are very bad; double death and dead dog!

  • @spanpt
    @spanpt3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for a great video Chris! While I always enjoy your narratives, the dialogue with Justin is certainly welcome. I love the little details he knows about the IJN, including their administration and tactics. Thanks!

  • @bovinebear2979
    @bovinebear29793 жыл бұрын

    Great job guys, I love how you have the air simulation graphic to visualize what the planes looked like and how it played out being there. Probably the best pacific battle documentary I've seen on youtube!

  • @moistmike4150
    @moistmike41503 жыл бұрын

    Extremely well presented! So many little known actions in war sum to such a huge outcome. Sadly, much of war is simply rolling-the-dice, and inevitably, it's young lives who pay when you get a bad roll.

  • @caesarillion
    @caesarillion3 жыл бұрын

    "44 months in the Pacific." My dad Antoine W. Venne Jr. USS Indianapolis. RIP 1980 Thanks, big fan. Paul Venne/Thailand

  • @be2keen
    @be2keen3 жыл бұрын

    Ironically, Task Force 11 surely accomplished more damage with fewer losses than had they been able to execute their original plan.

  • @laurencetilley9194
    @laurencetilley91943 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this wonderful research, I was unaware of how important this was as prelude to the Battle of the Coral Sea and the Lae - Salamaua invasion.

  • @donchichivagabond1578
    @donchichivagabond15783 жыл бұрын

    I like the detail. Though you went for the dual conversation to unfold the details of the battle instead of visual creation you both kept me engaged. I will be looking into more of your channel. Thanks for the excellent work.

  • @rg20322
    @rg203223 жыл бұрын

    I just discovered this channel and truly appreciate the back and forth between the host and guest. Awesome content and delivery.

  • @interestingvideosofinteres5136
    @interestingvideosofinteres5136 Жыл бұрын

    History Channel used to do videos like this. But I feel this is more accurate and well prepared.

  • @laurenceho
    @laurenceho3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for keeping military aviation history alive (and well). I can appreciate the effort that had gone into the research to produce this. A big thank.

  • @gordonstewart5774
    @gordonstewart57743 жыл бұрын

    The video I've watched all week. EXCELLENT! Thanks!

  • @jonskowitz
    @jonskowitz3 жыл бұрын

    So often in war it comes down to trying to pick the least awful choice out of a collection of awful choices.

  • @moistmike4150

    @moistmike4150

    3 жыл бұрын

    That situation is exactly where a real leader earns his paycheck.

  • @Drizzleize
    @Drizzleize3 жыл бұрын

    1 minute in, I find myself saying 'Don't go, Neosho!'

  • @AaronStuartHall
    @AaronStuartHall Жыл бұрын

    I pay close attention to this theatre and never knew about this action. Great stuff.

  • @danr5105
    @danr51053 жыл бұрын

    I first read about Coral Sea,Midway, The Turkey Shoot 55 years ago. Odd how I keep learning about these battles today.

  • @MrEnvirocat
    @MrEnvirocat3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome presentation of an obscure action of USN vs IJN in an early part of WW2.

  • @forest4283
    @forest42833 жыл бұрын

    The Biz himself paired with Task Force Admiral? I can't think of something I like more.

  • @DrydockDreamsGames

    @DrydockDreamsGames

    3 жыл бұрын

    Aye, we are lucky to count this fine man among our friends. Truly. Keep supporting his channel if you can, the man's worth it!

  • @jameshoiby
    @jameshoiby3 жыл бұрын

    FANTASTIC video. Thank you!

  • @georgehays4900
    @georgehays49003 жыл бұрын

    That is some nice high def animation.

  • @georgebizos944
    @georgebizos9443 жыл бұрын

    I say this earnestly; every video on your channel could be put into a set of disks, and I would want to buy it (even more so if your IL-2 gameplay videos are included as bonus material). I really enjoy your channel and the work you do; thank you Chris! And thanks of course also to Justin!

  • @raindog8684
    @raindog86842 жыл бұрын

    An excellent discussion. Thank you

  • @sonnyburnett8725
    @sonnyburnett87253 жыл бұрын

    Whenever it’s a well researched then well presented program, they’re always too short.

  • @slartybartfarst55
    @slartybartfarst553 жыл бұрын

    Excellent Chat. Thank you very much both of you. I loved how detailed this was without becoming either too general or too over-detailed. The 45 minutes "flew by" for me :-)

  • @justinpyke1756

    @justinpyke1756

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! That was a huge aim when we were putting this together. This is a rare action where if we had wanted it could have been excessively detailed, overwhelmingly so. We wanted to include enough detail to give people a good idea of the action without getting bogged down in endless names and times.

  • @randallreed9048
    @randallreed90483 жыл бұрын

    Nice job Justin and Chris! Breezy, accessible, and informative. I am impressed!

  • @rokuth
    @rokuth3 жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed it a lot. My parents were in Malaya during WW2, and told us about the Japanese invasion. I am glad to learn more about that era in history.

  • @moistmike4150

    @moistmike4150

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wow! Would love to hear their eye-witness testimony! Is there a website with their story that we could visit?

  • @thejurassicdino
    @thejurassicdino3 жыл бұрын

    Wow this is a great video and the visuals by Task Force Admiral is just as great! Even though it's 45 minutes long, I didn't get bored at all. This is a really interesting engagement in the Pacific and this video explained it well. Kudos to all the research and work put into this video!

  • @leif3736
    @leif37363 жыл бұрын

    Great Video, im really enjoying this series about the early war air/naval operations in the pacific. Plus the great visualisation with games or original footage of planes and ships, this really adds to the well presented historic facts. Have a great day ^^

  • @joeees7790
    @joeees77903 жыл бұрын

    Could you teach Mark Felton to list his sources? As one tired of the "believe me/my interpretation/my opinion on" crowd it's nice to see a channel list the actual sources.

  • @geordiedog1749

    @geordiedog1749

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very good point. I’m a big fan of Mark but he’s more keen of putting photos of himself on his videos theses days it seems - which is odd as he looks to be about the size of a milk bottle:)

  • @nealboswell8786
    @nealboswell87863 жыл бұрын

    Very Big Two thumbs up on this one.

  • @paststeve1
    @paststeve13 жыл бұрын

    Thank you gentlemen! This video is outstanding!

  • @henrymann8122
    @henrymann81223 жыл бұрын

    Excellent topic, great chat and awesome animation. Thank you

  • @AsbestosMuffins
    @AsbestosMuffins3 жыл бұрын

    quite a great presentation, lighting and video issues aside, shows the problems with unescorted bomber formations and the difficulty in using bombers as antiship weapons especially against carriers

  • @timonsolus

    @timonsolus

    3 жыл бұрын

    It would be interesting to do a similar analysis of an early war attack by a B-17 formation on a Japanese fleet.

  • @billk8579
    @billk85793 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. Greatest generations on both sides. Hard men.

  • @BobSmith-dk8nw
    @BobSmith-dk8nw3 жыл бұрын

    Very well done. As I was watching there would be things I thought I might mention - only to find that you guys covered those too. Very well done. .

  • @jonniez62
    @jonniez623 жыл бұрын

    Very good day for a Chicago ganster's son. If you don't know about Butch's back story, its a great story for the Airport's name sake.

  • @willcline7992
    @willcline79922 жыл бұрын

    Rabaul was far more of a curse than a blessing for the Japanese. Add to that the long ranges of both Japanese bombers and fighters and you find that many of the Japanese Rabaul missions were 10 hours long. For instance attacks against Guadalcanal were often 5 hours there to engage an enemy forewarned by radar with altitude advantages and if the Wildcat had the altitude advantage it was a deadly aircraft then five hours back to Rabaul with battle damage. Then add to that the US strategy to isolate and cutoff Rabaul and you see that it was simply a meatgrinder for tremendous amounts of airplanes and aircrew that were sacraficed to long distances, no rescues, and fighting well prepared foes again and again.

  • @paultyson4389
    @paultyson43893 жыл бұрын

    Great presentation! Thanks.

  • @williamkoppos7039
    @williamkoppos70393 жыл бұрын

    Wow, have often seen the still of Ito's engineless aircraft, but never this motion film. How rare and amazing is that? Thanks for this. Great show.

  • @KeithSoremTeam
    @KeithSoremTeam2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent analysis. learned a great deal larger picture. Impressed!

  • @keithbrown2458
    @keithbrown24583 жыл бұрын

    Very well done gentlemen thank you

  • @tando6266
    @tando62663 жыл бұрын

    That was a great video. Thanks lads

  • @asicit6789
    @asicit67893 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. This was excellent.

  • @cannonfodder4376
    @cannonfodder43763 жыл бұрын

    A fantastic and informative discussion as always. It's always a treat to have Justin on for discussions.

  • @M3RUL3Z
    @M3RUL3Z3 жыл бұрын

    Can't wait to see Task force! great collab

  • @George-bz1fi
    @George-bz1fi3 жыл бұрын

    Good sum up on a almost forgotten period of the war.

  • @mikemantho9426
    @mikemantho94263 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic content you two, really love your channel Chris.

  • @ditto1958
    @ditto19583 жыл бұрын

    I didn’t forget it Read about it as a child and many times since then

  • @neilwilson5785
    @neilwilson57853 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. The visuals are great too.

  • @themodernwarfarehistorian825
    @themodernwarfarehistorian8253 жыл бұрын

    Nice to see that I've not been the only one using the “Early Raids in the Pacific Ocean.” source ahahaha Great video! (as always)

  • @realtruth4260
    @realtruth42603 жыл бұрын

    Wow! Really great film. Fantastic graphics.

  • @bfberna
    @bfberna3 жыл бұрын

    Enjoying this channel so much. The graphics and duel narration overlay is simply awesome and help to comprehend what was happening minute by minute as if we were watching the battle live. Better yet this is play by play with a bit of color analysis thrown in. Great work both of you and the graphic artist bringing history to life. Bibliography is helpful as well and hope to secure the two books.

  • @tedstation5607

    @tedstation5607

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s it actually a graphic artists work it’s a game called task force admiral which is currently in development it’s very interesting and worth a look if you like these things/

  • @RAF71chingachgook
    @RAF71chingachgook3 жыл бұрын

    Nicely done! Thanks.

  • @Lost-In-Blank
    @Lost-In-Blank3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video! Great work!

  • @paultraynorbsc627
    @paultraynorbsc6273 жыл бұрын

    Excellent be Chris

  • @mbryson2899
    @mbryson28993 жыл бұрын

    Extremely interesting video, I've often read bits but never had such detail. You two make a great duo!

  • @seanmac1793

    @seanmac1793

    3 жыл бұрын

    Justin with anyone is always good content

  • @stuckp1stuckp122
    @stuckp1stuckp1223 жыл бұрын

    Excellent work!

  • @timmy3822
    @timmy38223 жыл бұрын

    Terrific video, thanks! Task Force Admiral looks stunning, looking forward to it :).

  • @DrydockDreamsGames

    @DrydockDreamsGames

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks master Jedi!

  • @jamessimon1956
    @jamessimon19563 жыл бұрын

    You do such a great job on these videos.

  • @larrydugan1441
    @larrydugan14413 жыл бұрын

    Well done guys. Thanks.

  • @garryyoung8945
    @garryyoung89453 жыл бұрын

    Excellent. Thank you.

  • @michaelmoran3946
    @michaelmoran39463 жыл бұрын

    A big thumbs up. I really enjoyed the way you covered a relatively small action that had big consequences. It made me go back and read Samuel Eliot Morrison’s account of this action.

  • @casparcoaster1936
    @casparcoaster19363 жыл бұрын

    Love any post pearl premid details of ww2 in pac, really enjoyed, many tanx!!!!!!!!!

  • @jstenberg3192
    @jstenberg31923 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Thank you

  • @ProjectFlashlight612
    @ProjectFlashlight6122 жыл бұрын

    The Pacific War wrongly gets too little attention. Bravo to these clips, that address this shortcoming.

  • @joewellman7205
    @joewellman72053 жыл бұрын

    Very very informative. A set of insights I have never seen before.

  • @Articulate99
    @Articulate993 ай бұрын

    Always interesting, thank you.

  • @JosephBoeke
    @JosephBoeke3 жыл бұрын

    A very good analysis, thanks for the details! Really makes me think about what might have happened had the Royal Navy and RAF been able to coordinate any kind of fighter cover for the HMS Prince of Wales and HMS Repulse in December 1941.

  • @danielkennedy1524
    @danielkennedy15243 жыл бұрын

    Excellent! Well done you guys!

  • @guidor.4161
    @guidor.41613 жыл бұрын

    Wow, great insights, thanks so much!

  • @duncani3095
    @duncani30953 жыл бұрын

    Yes! Jimmie Thach and Butch O'Hare! Legends of VF-3.

  • @JohnRodriguesPhotographer
    @JohnRodriguesPhotographer3 жыл бұрын

    The biggest problem the United States had with horizontal bombing of maneuvering ships, the theory envisioned larger formations. More often than not the number of planes available did not equate to the number of planes needed to implement the theory. Then you had an issue of Pilots that were not trained and Auntie shipping attacks. In addition there were times when individual planes would he go hunting individual ships. Complete waste of time, fuel and ordinance.

  • @terraflow__bryanburdo4547
    @terraflow__bryanburdo45473 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic grphics and discussion. You guys are on A-Game.

  • @dougdenhamlouie
    @dougdenhamlouie3 жыл бұрын

    Good job guys. One thing Germany did rather well bombing shipping in the Med. see Malta convoys. As well Condors did serious damage to many convoys in the N Atlantic until jeep carriers showed up and stopped the flights. They knew how to attack shipping. They were just real busy with other operations.

  • @outfield1988
    @outfield19883 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the video

  • @redskindan78
    @redskindan783 жыл бұрын

    Lundstrom! Great book. Note the date, though: a bit west, the Japanese destroyed the ABDACOM squadron in the Java Sea, then sank Perth and Houston trying to escape to the west, and Exeter trying to escape to the east. Catastrophe all over Java, as the Japanese took what is now Indonesia. Singapore fought but had to surrender in mid-February. In the Philippines, Bataan was being strangled into surrendering in April, leaving Corregidor to surrender in May. Grim times.