Automatic Drawing vs Doodling: Are They Really The Same?

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A lot of people throw around the phrases "automatic drawing" and "doodling" as if they are the same thing, but are they? In this video I'll explore that and offer my opinion on the matter. Oh, and I'll probably ramble about other things.
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  • @christikulczyk1439
    @christikulczyk14392 жыл бұрын

    My aunt is an incredible pastel artist. She uses little scrap bits of sandpaper to doodle and test ideas for techniques. Her husband told her to keep them, that they would be useful in the future. She started going back to them and noticing things she hadn’t seen before and added to the doodles. They ended up becoming award winning pieces. The beautiful thing about art is that there is no wrong or right, there’s no boundary and there is always value even if you don’t see it at the time.

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 жыл бұрын

    That sounds like a great idea, Christi. Thank you for sharing!

  • @FaithfulComforter

    @FaithfulComforter

    Ай бұрын

    Please tell us her name, I would like to look up her work.

  • @celticheather
    @celticheather3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Pete I too enjoyed your video immensely. I do automatic drawing and doodling and have for most of my life. When I was a kid my father would give me a piece of paper to draw on and be horrified when I screwed it into a ball. Then I would flatten it out and draw on some of the fold lines and colour in the spaces. Now frequently I draw in the dark or with my eyes shut on a piece of paper. Then I erase some of the lines and add others and sometimes it amounts to nothing and other times it becomes a painting or is the inspiration for a painting. Often I see something I wouldn’t have thought of to draw and in a new and exciting way. The surrealists did it for inspiration and that is also why I do it. Don’t give up on it as a powerful drawing tool, it just works in a different way.

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hello Magy! Thank you for your insight. It seems you're blending the two together to get a unique result. First automatic drawing and then using that as the framework for an abstract doodle. That is a very interesting approach. I will definitely try that. Thank you for watching!

  • @theplayerhater11
    @theplayerhater113 жыл бұрын

    Hi Pete, I really enjoyed hearing you speak and seeing you draw, doodle, and automate was super great! As a lifelong (proud) “doodler” who recently discovered automatism I would like to suggest a theory to why automatic drawing offers a great opportunity to be more creative. The way I think about it is like this: with doodling you’re working pretty slowly. Developing lines consciously and absolutely improving your ability with new textures, lines, and form in abstract or concrete ways that can then inform decisions made in later works. With Automatic drawing I see the benefits coming from the speed things are done and the letting go of conscious control. Our minds are pattern recognition machines and so when you are able to work fast and lose any form of conscious judgment or acknowledgment while making your “subconscious” mind is turning more than it would be in a doodle where you are making decisions, or judgments on what is to come next. The seeds planted during the automatic drawing process are incubated in the mind where they can grow and become fully fledged ideas without you even knowing it. So with doodling you are still planting a few seeds but telling them what they will grow into. With automatism, it feels to me like you are planting infinite seeds and then letting the nature of the mind do the real work behind the curtain. I’m no psychologist but I am a designer and have felt that since incorporating automatic drawing into my practice I have been able to iterate quicker, have bigger ideas, feel less fear, and overall create more imaginative work. Just my two cents though! Thanks for making this video :)

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hello Skyler, thank you so much for your insights. So you are saying that the benefits come after the activity when practicing automatism? That is very interesting. I have not really measured my results with that in mind. I'll pay a little more attention in the future. Thank you for watching.

  • @theplayerhater11

    @theplayerhater11

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@IllustrationsByPete I believe so! I think the benefits to be had during the process are similar to doodling too but the notion that the drawings usually lack any sort of recognizable traits keeps the brain firing and might even allow it to be more open to receiving inspiration out in the world. When you mentioned the bathroom tile, it made me think of this quote by Da Vinci that was mentioned by Austin Osman Spare as a reason behind practicing automatism: “Look at walls splashed with a number of stains, or stones of various mixed colours. If you have to invent some scene, you can see there resemblances to a number of landscapes, adorned with mountains, rivers, rocks, trees, great plains, valleys and hills, in various ways. Also you can see various battles, and lively postures of strange figures, expressions on faces, costumes and an infinite number of things, which you can reduce to good integrated form. This happens on such walls and varicoloured stones, (which act) like the sound of bells, in whose peeling you can find every name and word that you can imagine. Do not despise my opinion, when I remind you that it should not hard for you to stop sometimes and look into the stains of walls, or the ashes of a fire, or clouds, or mud or like places, in which, if you consider them well, you may find really marvelous ideas. The mind of the painter is stimulated to new discoveries, the composition of battles of animals and men, various compositions of landscapes and monstrous things, such as devils and similar things, which may bring you honor, because by indistinct things the mind is stimulated to new inventions.” :)

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    3 жыл бұрын

    That is a great quote and that's how I spend a lot of time.

  • @infamousjoker7651

    @infamousjoker7651

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very well said Skyler, as in my comment I just left I say as much...not as well, but we are on the same page. I do a warm up of both automatic drawing followed up by some doodles... And I can't tell you how much it's helped me with my artwork...but in my life... drawing/doodling or just designing tattoos for clients or myself is my only...way to vent and that little warm up might of saved my life...and I'm only possibly embellishing with that...but I always doodled...but I only just learned the automatic drawing thing very recently from watching Proko.....pairing the two has been everything

  • @christinachamley3365
    @christinachamley33652 жыл бұрын

    Ok this is actually intelligent. I have watched so many videos on automatic drawing and they describe and then demonstrate it exactly as you say, in a way that is illogical and contradictory. Why do people talk with authority about topics that they really have not got a solid understanding of? Again, thank you for the way you have dissected, described and demonstrated this topic. The fact that you have reflected deeply in these two techniques is apparent. You have checked definitions of words and concepts, you have applied logic and you have described your real life observations. This is a scientific approach to understanding these artistic methods and I really appreciate that level of truth. I believe I can trust what you explain in your videos because you have actually thought about concepts, scrutinised popular commentary and provided your lived experience of them. This is great stuff! Now if you could only come up with a fancy new name for Doodling that sounds sophisticated rather than ridiculous, I could finally allow this method to define my favourite artistic activity! Cheers, from Tasmania, Australia

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Christina! I'm so glad you enjoyed the way I presented my case. Thank you for your feedback and I hope to hear more from you. I love to hear where people are from, Tasmania must be beautiful.

  • @Beckelby
    @Beckelby3 жыл бұрын

    I dont really like leaving comments but I have to because I'm shocked you have so few subscribers! This video is exactly what I was looking for! I think very mechanically and enjoy having rules to follow and because of that I really struggle with letting loose and doodling. I've been looking up automatic drawing and doodling tutorials (which is slightly oxymoronic?) and was struggling with the misuse of the definitions. But you explained it in a way that helps my mechanical mind to grasp the meanings as well as understand the doodling process. Also I really enjoyed watching your art and listening to your stories! You've gained another subscriber and I'm excited to watch your channel grow :-)

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for your support, Becky! I'm glad I was able to help you sort that out. I completely understand where you're coming from. I think I enjoy doodling so much because my mind is very logical and mechanical as well. This gives me an outlet where that pressure comes off. The best part about doodling is that no one can tell you where that line belongs or where that shape needs to curve. You can make up some rules if it helps you or throw caution to the wind and break them all. Again, thank you for your support. It is greatly appreciated.

  • @Alex-kh9ju

    @Alex-kh9ju

    2 жыл бұрын

    I am also very mechanical, it's entirely possible to do mechanical doodling. Start with a small simple shape, and just build into it semi-randomly

  • @fabriziodutto7508
    @fabriziodutto75082 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your video! I really want to start doodling but I don't know how to start, thanks to your video I can now understand the principles. Have a wonderful year! Cheers from Italy.

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello Fabrizio! I'm glad this helped. Getting started is the hardest part but it will become addicting after a while. I hope you have a great year as well!

  • @hattorihanzo8385
    @hattorihanzo83853 жыл бұрын

    Doodling is the focused act of creating art without the pressure of being judged.. Automatic drawing is the distracted act of letting your pen move on paper while your thoughts are somewhere else.

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Hattori! That is a great way to look at the differences. Thank you for your insight. Have a great day!

  • @ralucacreivean7393
    @ralucacreivean73933 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for explaining these things! 😊

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    3 ай бұрын

    I'm glad it helped. 🙂

  • @debbiedrawsfunny
    @debbiedrawsfunny2 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoy automatic doodling, myself, it really does seem relax ,my brain and let the creativity just go it’s own way and I just get hop on for the ride :) love your doodles too! Very cool!

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. I'm glad you get something out of it. It helps me see patterns and shapes I want to explore. Very freeing.

  • @infamousjoker7651
    @infamousjoker76512 жыл бұрын

    This is the first time I'm finding your channel..and I subscribed..but we are in complete disagreement.....I've always doodled..shit I call myself a doodler and steer away from being called "artist".....but when I watched the video on automatic drawing on Proko's channel....bro that shit changed my life...I think you are right where you say that calling it what it's called...and calling it meditation for artists you don't agree with..but...it is. It's a "Grounding technique" ....you are clearing your mind...the stress..the pressure....the....all of that" and you clearing and centering yourself in the moment...onto that paper...or... whatever medium....I was able to get through a major artistic block...which helped start to get me out of my head. And out of my depression, a very...very dark depression.. And I'm sayin all that to say this...you don't need the comparison. You don't need one to be better than the other... because if one would do what I started doing...which came natural after learning the "automatic drawing" ..I do that until I am where I need to be with it...and then..a "morph" it into what doodles come from whatever ended up on the paper...so ....I'm even still going very automatic I just slowly start to take the wheel back...and I end up in this ...god damn zone... it's helped me even in tattooing..the design work that is...the more tools you have in your artist arsenal the better... reference images, cut outs, rulers, a picture of Donald Trump wearing a face of genuine approval and giving thumbs up next to a picture of my dad wearing a face of disappointed disapproval for that extra little drive and confidence......but the more you have to put you in your zone....Thats shit that you better have in your arsenal then.... metaphorically speaking

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey Joker, thank you for sharing. I'm glad that it helped you get out of a spot at a time when you needed it. After doing automatic drawing regularly for about 1 year I can say that it has done nothing for me personally but I also understand from so many stories that it has done some good for a lot of others. So I would say on my personal journey it hasn't helped me at all except it has helped me connect with so many artists that I would have normally not connected with, and for that reason it's been good for me. Have a great day and keep doing your thing!

  • @truebluepatriot2739
    @truebluepatriot2739 Жыл бұрын

    I agree 100% with what you have said! I never have any idea what I will be creating when I start, I just put pen to paper and head out on my destination of making a semi continuous line of shapes with the purpose of creating art tho there are times when I purposely manipulate a creation I want to be seen as a deep sea creature. I like what I do but I see what you and others are doing and my mind is just blown. So, thanx for the vids cuz I really enjoy watching them! 🤪

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Patriot! I can appreciate that. I usually approach art that way myself. I have an idea I want to try out and experiment with but not an end result in mind. Then I just sit down and see what disaster unfolds. I love experimenting with art. I hope I can entertain you again soon. 🙂

  • @juliewilliamsnewzealand818
    @juliewilliamsnewzealand8182 жыл бұрын

    Hi Pete, my opinion on what the differences are and what you can learn from them is this: automatic painting drawing comes from your feelings not your brain, in the process of feeling and not thinking you may discover a new technique in producing a particular effect, which you could not have if you were 'thinking' your way through the process ( and following 'rules'). If I am tired and stressed, i need an outlet for my feelings which I find easiest to achieve from 'auto' creating, the colours i use and the style of my 'lines', curves etc release some of that 'crap' out of my head onto the page. You can totally see anger in the use of colours/lines/brushstrokes or maybe sorrow from using different colours etc etc Doodling achieves a similar thing because even though you are using your brain this time, now you are totally focussed on where you want the pen to go next. In using this process i am switching off my brain which gives stress relief from overthinking problems and issues going on in day to day life. To me, the important difference between doodling/auto drawing/painting and regular drawing/painting is the lack of a destination. In normal painting/drawing we are wanting to replicate or reproduce something we have seen or are looking at. Both are skills, as a lot of people would have great difficulty in switching off their heads from their soul. Kind of like the difference between Windows and Apple. Totally different approaches to achieve an end result - some prefer Windows and some prefer Apple and then there are a few of us who enjoy using both because it is good exercise for our brain to swap back and forwards in the navigation of the screens we are looking at. Love your rambles and just rambling here about the thoughts this video provoked in my mind :) xxx As an added bonus you are switching off your brain which gives stress relief from overthinking problems and issues going on in day to day life.

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Julie! Thank you for your thoughts on the subject. That is one way to look at it. 🙂

  • @McRascal89
    @McRascal893 жыл бұрын

    Doodle with pen is so cool, would like to see more of your doodles like it!

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you R Mac! I appreciate the encouragement. Have a great day!

  • @Mollygirl444
    @Mollygirl4443 жыл бұрын

    Always looking for new supplies to try. What tape were you using? Love your technique!

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Molly! It is Scotch Artist Tape Low Tack. It works great and has never torn any paper even if I leave it on for a week. Thank you so much for watching!

  • @j_mapelle_nee
    @j_mapelle_nee Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for that break down. I appreciate the point you made about focused and unfocused when it comes to meditating and doodling. Both require focus. It’s interesting how in the art world people try at best to assign meaning to any new processes or techniques that are still quite unfamiliar or not understood, because it’s the latest trend and everyone is an expert all of a sudden. Let’s all assume we know and practice automatic drawing and yet all the while the examples I’ve viewed online are too precise or pre-meditated. Doodling for me personally was what I did when I was on the telephone asa kid (remember telephones! 😅) I would scribble on a notepad by the phone and go away and come back and without thinking be on another call and would continue where I left off, adding to the previous ramblings of pen work. Nothing made sense, although there were discernable lines usually a repetition of cross-hatching or circles over and over. That’s where my mind went to when I would be talking on the phone. Parallel lines. Maybe that was “automatic drawing”. I understand now from watching your video that what requires concentrated thought and intentional decision making isn’t automatic drawing but in fact doodling. The assigning of form and texture was an “aha” moment for me. I loved what you said about the tiles too! Ha! There is absolutely nothing weird about that. In any waiting room doctors or wherever I am often always counting the tiles on the ceiling or floor or finding patterns in the AC vents or seat covers. I guess it’s a classic trait of any artist; finding patterns in everyday life. I enjoyed listening to you talk. Your childhood experiences were endearing. Thank you for sharing. ✨ from Queensland, Australia !

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Annie! I do remember phones, with ultra long coily cords, lol. I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Thank you for your insights!

  • @carlaeskelsen

    @carlaeskelsen

    3 ай бұрын

    Hey, we still have a corded rotary dial phone and land line at our house. Push button phones were okay, but nothing really gives you the satisfaction of actually dialing a phone number.

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    3 ай бұрын

    That's awesome! 👍🏻

  • @PetroicaRodinogaster264
    @PetroicaRodinogaster2649 ай бұрын

    I do not set out with a plan but I do focus on what I am doing and develop as I go. I could never just do things without some thinking.

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    9 ай бұрын

    Thank you! Everyone does things differently. Sometimes I start without a plan but then I quickly need to focus on what I want to do. Thanks for sharing! 🙂

  • @KittyGinaMeow
    @KittyGinaMeow2 жыл бұрын

    When I was little my cousins and I would create our own board games we had so fun playing after with our dice

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 жыл бұрын

    Kids can make a game out of anything and have fun with it. Sometimes we forget how to do that as adults.

  • @metasymphony
    @metasymphony3 жыл бұрын

    This is how I come up with new fantasy creatures and plants. In my head I call it “random sketching”, but doodling describes it as well. I really liked your art for this video!

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hello Nekomancer! That sounds like a great way to come up with fantasy elements. Thank you for your insight.

  • @joanastley6334
    @joanastley63343 жыл бұрын

    LOVE THIS...MOST INTERESTING VIDEO HOPE TO SEE MORE....

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hello Joan! Thank you for your kind words and thank you for watching!

  • @carmenvalentic6603
    @carmenvalentic66032 жыл бұрын

    I call it creative doodling, lol. Intuitive drawing, too. I don't always have in mind what the drawing will be. A lot of times it's just sheer randomness. Other times, a shape starts to take form and then I go with it. Owls, loons, people...or nothing. I lose track of time. In any case, I've been drawing like that for a few decades now and have only been learning what else this style can be called recently. By the way, I can actually draw concrete images, too, but abstract is just the way I roll most of the time. Thank you for sharing your perspective.

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello Carmen! "Intuitive" and "creative" are good descriptions. Thank you for sharing. 🙂

  • @keariewashburn4680
    @keariewashburn468011 ай бұрын

    ❤ I just found you yesterday and seeing this today. I subscribed and I love this ! Thank you 😊 ( I have always doodled and make up stuff when young. Still fun) ( Yes! Freaked out the adults 😂)

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    11 ай бұрын

    Hi Kearie! Welcome to the channel. I hope you enjoy it! 🙂

  • @NielsTejl
    @NielsTejlАй бұрын

    Thank you, very nice journey. I have one thing, I do, when not knowing what to do. I practice writing, good old handwriteting . What I write doesn’t matter, what they say on the radio or all the spices I know of, fi. I , like you, had good friend as a child. We did a very strange thing, now and then. We looked for chimneys, to climp. A lot of them had steps outside, like just handles. Typically the first one you couldn’t reach. We got hold of ropes and hooks for that problem. We developed also some gear for hooking ourselves, when reaching the top (most chimneys has a lid on the top with holes in it. It probably was dangerous, that’s why it was so thrilling, I guess.

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing. I'm glad you enjoyed this. 🙂

  • @jasperscott5426
    @jasperscott54262 жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed your videos 😀 I guess I have been doing it without knowing.Feels that your hand moves by itself...

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello Jasper. I'm glad you like them. That's an interesting way to put it. Thank you for watching!

  • @jayadamson9340
    @jayadamson93409 ай бұрын

    I love that last doodle it makes me think of like a sci-fi creature. This video was really helpful, would you mind if I used it as a source in a university essay?

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    9 ай бұрын

    Thank you Jay. I'm glad you found it useful. Absolutely, I would be honored. Come back and let me know how it goes. What is the essay on? Good luck!

  • @brucewagner4394
    @brucewagner43942 жыл бұрын

    I've seen patterns on the floor in linoleum at Walmart bathroom. Or in the carpet, or ceiling tiles. Always something in them.

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tile is one of my favorite things to get inspiration from.

  • @matthewpicklesimer293
    @matthewpicklesimer293 Жыл бұрын

    King of the Hill we played too pete...very cool memories we laughed hard ourselves..!

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, we played a lot of different versions of that. Good times. 🙂

  • @Shirley0850
    @Shirley08502 жыл бұрын

    I wasn't going to watch this video but, I'm glad I did, thoroughly enjoyed it!

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello Shirley! I'm glad you clicked and enjoyed the video too. Happy New Year!

  • @meltemashley1808
    @meltemashley1808 Жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU ❤… BY THE WAY I LOVE YOUR WORK❤

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! 🙂

  • @jennvart4162
    @jennvart41623 жыл бұрын

    I love your game story.very cool drawing as well.

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Jenn! Thank you so much! We did some weird stuff back then. Thank you for watching!

  • @Rosa-mb5yp
    @Rosa-mb5yp2 жыл бұрын

    Born in the high desert I lived in an area loaded with pot shards, arrowheads, Blue Jays, Rattlers, pinon trees, and so many horney toads! One of my favorite pastimes was making Adobe blocks from mini match boxes, and building haciendas...when dry I would lovingly collect horney toads and round them up into the haciendas. I will always in my spirit hold the memory of the baby toads no bigger than pencil erasers scampering up and down my arms. Of course in a matter of minutes they would climb the walls and go about their business, which tickled me because somehow I felt they outsmarted me. I miss them oh so much...the last live one I saw was for sale at a pet shop more than fifty years ago. In winter cardboard boxes served as sleds and us kids would fly down slick icy paths until our butts were numb and our mothers would find us bruised and battered, always scolding that we were going to lose an eye or break bones. We also had huge cement culverts that we would sit inside of and grind tufa into mounds of red powder that when mixed with water would make great body paintings. You see I will never laugh at your childhood experiences. Those experiences helped mold us into spiritual beings. I thank you for walking me through an iota of your creativity and awakening my stories through your stories. One love...Blessed be😌🤗

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing, Rosa. Have a great day!

  • @lisasternenkind6467
    @lisasternenkind64679 ай бұрын

    There is a meditation in which you focus on letting go of everything and you end up finally, if you achieve the goal, floating as soul without body or other material manifestation, and without thought or emotion in empty never ending eternal space. To achieve this cathartic state, you of course cannot draw or doodle or paint or whatever, because this would make you use your body, your hand and arm. I only know of automatic drawing and automatic writing in a very different way. I had an aunt, who did both, but she was blindfolded while doing it and she always asked herself or the universe (?) some great, profound question. My mom told me once, that in 1973 she asked if UFOs would really exist. So she then was blindfolded and went into some kind of trance, and then she would do this automatic writing and drawing. This was in Baden, close to Vienna, Austria. Anyhow, she wrote down a date and time and place, which was the Kalvarienberg in Vienna. And then she drew a picture of her and a very close friend from school, together with their kids and husbands, having a picknick on the Kalvarienberg. Then she dropped the pen and was sort of asleep in the chair she was sitting on. On that date she and her best friend, who had witnessed this session, went with their families to have a picknick on the Kalvarienberg on the given date, but didn't tell their husbands about this, because they didn't approve these trance sessions with automatic writing and drawing. Her husband was a renown judge and her friend's husband was a doctor for lung diseases, so they didn't want to have to do anything with such "crazy" activities. I thought you were doing such a session here on the video. 😂

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    9 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing. No, I was not. Lol. That is a very different thing. What I was doing was what artists say they do to increase creativity but they confuse the meanings of doodling and automatic drawing. Also doodling doesn't sound as cool so they don't like to say it. 🙂

  • @sissimp4
    @sissimp42 жыл бұрын

    Wow, you're really talented!

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello Sissi! Thank you so much! Are you an artist also?

  • @sissimp4

    @sissimp4

    2 жыл бұрын

    I only draw occasionally, but yes. In a different industry (filmmaking) 🤠

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh, wow, that's awesome! Thank you for the support and have a great day!

  • @brucewagner4394
    @brucewagner43942 жыл бұрын

    I've been watching a lot of this guy named ,or his channel...Peter Draws...he's good at what he does

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 жыл бұрын

    He is one of the best. I watch him a lot also. His art is very inspiring.

  • @r4inwolf
    @r4inwolf2 жыл бұрын

    I will literally examine each new bathroom I'm in cause they are so different. Lol

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol. I have to check the bathroom and make sure it's empty as soon as I go in so I don't freak anyone out as I take pictures of the tile. I love finding textures that inspire me.

  • @phillipstroll7385
    @phillipstroll73852 жыл бұрын

    Preach dude. No!!!!! Not all of us have social media. I don't have Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, tictok any of that. KZread is it. Please do it here. I'm not allowed to use social media, but I do enjoy your videos.

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'll keep everything here. This is where most people follow me so it would be hard to do anywhere else. Thanks for the feedback.

  • @junemaguire5053
    @junemaguire50532 жыл бұрын

    Great thank you.

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you June! I'm glad you enjoyed it.

  • @soniataitt636
    @soniataitt6362 жыл бұрын

    Hi new subbie what pen are you using

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Sonia! For the automatic drawing I used the Moonman T1 and for the doodle drawing I was using the Tombow Fudenosuke Hard Brush Pen for the line work and then I switch to the Soft Brush for the end when I'm filling in the black around the drawing. The Tombow pens are some of my favorite. They feel a little cheap but they give great results. Thank you so much for your support!

  • @honeyspoonbeewrangler4550
    @honeyspoonbeewrangler4550 Жыл бұрын

    You're not the only one who see's pictures in tiles and other surfaces. :)

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol. I'm glad I'm not the only one. 😉

  • @Nonorama
    @Nonorama3 жыл бұрын

    Automatic drawing is much more difficult than it sounds... I tried it a few times, even made some videos myself, where one can follow my process of trying to understand and do it. And in some ways I think I succeeded, but the again, I did not succeed, because ever so often, you start with a surpressed, blank space in your head, but the more lines are on the paper, the more you start to make associations and also get inspired...... so for me, as a result, I just use automatic drawing... or at least as far as I can come with it until it isn't anymore, as a creative tool. It is simply difficult, even though the concept is so simple, because a concious creative urge is hard to surpress, once it gets triggered by forms and lines. On the point of skill development: I guess the part you do indeed develop is muscle memory for holding the pen and making lines. You don't necessarily train any skill concerning drawing as technical skill, but rather a passiv feeling for the pen/brush/whatever. But for the rest, I agree, there's no other skill particularly trained. Anyway, I enjoyed listening your video!

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Nanorama! Thank you for your insight on the subject. The next video I put out is going to talk a little bit about what it has done for me creatively and I relate to what you are saying. Using it as a tool to discover interesting shapes and textures that I then turn into art has become the main purpose for continuing to make these. Almost like an ecercise for creativity. Thank you for watching!

  • @Itsall897
    @Itsall897 Жыл бұрын

    I think its subconscious drawing, you have a idea and you believe with all your heart that you're drawing it but when you're done it looks nothing like what you envisioned but its hundred times better than you could have imagined .

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    Жыл бұрын

    That's an interesting view, Alan. Thank you for your insight.

  • @carmenvalentic6603
    @carmenvalentic66032 жыл бұрын

    Childhood memories of mine are good. Imagination was super strong and anything or everything became part of imaginary stories which spanned our whole neighbourhood. I remember when one of the neighbour's dogs let us know that was not okay and we'd end up leaping over the fence to safety. :)

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is one of the best things about being a kid. I was the same way.

  • @SteveHarpsterDraws
    @SteveHarpsterDraws2 жыл бұрын

    Hello Pete, I thought I was doing automatic drawing but it turns out I was doodling. Which is fine with me. I agree that automatic sounds better but I really can't turn off my brain long enough to create an automatic drawing.

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello Steve, it's a little confusing especially since some very well known artists get it mixed up and then pass that on. Doodling has proven to be so much more valuable to me than automatic drawing. Honestly, you're not missing anything. Thanks for sharing!

  • @sammer28
    @sammer28 Жыл бұрын

    Automatic drawing is how I start off most of my surrealism. It is about working in a relaxed and natural manner and just making shapes and doing what feels natural. Eventually you stop and look. Rotate the page, look at it in different lighting. And when you consciously notice a form or subject matter, start to develop that lightly. You might define something with slightly more pressure, turn the surface 90° and see something bette. I start with a dark yellow or orange. Next steps would be based on you.

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    Жыл бұрын

    That sounds like a blend of automatic drawing and doodling. If it works I'd stick with it as long as you are getting what you want out of it. Sounds like a fun process.

  • @sammer28

    @sammer28

    Жыл бұрын

    @@IllustrationsByPete I wouldn't say doodling. Building up the pareidolia found in the automatic drawing is kind of different. It works, but there isn't really a "what I want" doing it this way. Why did I draw a loaf of bread, and why is it screaming? Lol

  • @roden70
    @roden703 ай бұрын

    Hi Pete. I think you would enjoy to see the spontanous watercolour paintings from Steve from the Mind of Watercolor channel. He has a proces for the most amazing watercolour landscapes.

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    3 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I enjoy those. He does very nice work. 👍🏻

  • @eunicefarrington5779
    @eunicefarrington57798 күн бұрын

    YES

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    8 күн бұрын

    🙂

  • @andymtb
    @andymtb2 жыл бұрын

    I'm never going to be able to use a public restroom the same way ever again. But seriously, I agree. I enjoy doodling and feel like it can itself be meditative

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Andy! Lol. It is definitely stress relieving if you can let yourself go and let it be whatever it turns out to be. Thanks for watching!

  • @mariamibedineishvili9480
    @mariamibedineishvili9480 Жыл бұрын

    yeah, I agree with a lot of things but I think u looking at automatic drawing just as one singular process. but if it is used by the artist there are processes that u have to undertake to achieve valuable automatic drawing. (also automatic painting doesn't really exist its more abstract expressionism) which really makes an excellent and interesting process which absolutely helps you with your developing creativity. and also meditation is a good way of making automatic drawings. the main point of automatism is that u don't concentrate and control your hand. so meditation can help with that. if u ask me your automatic drawing is just scribbling and there is a difference between that three automatism, doodling, and scribbling. I would suggest looking at the book Line Let Loose BY David Maclagan. I think u can be inspired by automatism if you do more research and look at a different way.

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate your insight. Thank you.

  • @TDoggie50
    @TDoggie502 жыл бұрын

    Meditation is something else. Where did you get that definition? Just askin' There are many ways to meditate. Some just empty their minds in sitting. Awareness and control over "chatter". Guess I have a different "perspective". No pun intended. Peace

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello Mrs Tyler. Meditation is used to focus on or think about in order to understand. For example to meditate on a lesson or to meditate on an experience. The meditation that most people hear about is always accompanied by "clear your mind and think of nothing". I know some people find that useful but in my experience it only lasts for as long as you are actually doing it and it doesn't seem to bring any resolution which is what brings a true calm mind. Just calming the noise for a while can be soothing but I would trade that for true resolution so I could be at peace with my thoughts. I'm not trying to get down on anyone who does this, it's just my perspective on it. Thank you for your insight. Have a great day!

  • @TDoggie50

    @TDoggie50

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@IllustrationsByPete I honor your path.

  • @zandrapatterson967
    @zandrapatterson9672 жыл бұрын

    I never heard of automatic drawing it looks like doodling. Abstract art!! Also there is no wrong way or right way in art for you to tell someone to do art!! What your doing keep up the good work because everybody is different in ART!!

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello Zandra! I have heard the terms used interchangeably but they are definitely 2 different things. It does resemble doodling a little but much more chaotic. Thank you for your input. I appreciate the support!

  • @dannymeske3821
    @dannymeske38213 жыл бұрын

    Be of no mind!

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hello Danny! Having studied it for a little while I'm not a big fan of Zen ideology. I lean more into conscious intent. However, that being said, I do use these drawings to spark some creativity by discovering patterns and form in the midst of the chaos. Thank you for watching!

  • @meltemashley1808
    @meltemashley1808 Жыл бұрын

    OMG TILES AND SEING THINGS…I SEE FACES FIGURES AND SO FORTH….WOW YOU ARETHE ONLY ONE WHO MENTIONED THIS….

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    Жыл бұрын

    😂 I see it everywhere.

  • @staceytomkinson910
    @staceytomkinson9103 жыл бұрын

    Great doodle

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Stacey! Thanks for watching!

  • @death057
    @death0572 ай бұрын

    Drawing and painting or not just skills they're they're creativity as well you can be amazing at copying a picture into a perfectly life-like portrait but if you can't put imagination into it and creatively think then it's just a copy of a photo you can be amazing at the technique in the end you're just copying somebody else's work without the creativity to come up with your own ideas You're not necessarily just supposed to think of nothing you do that at first until that nothing turns into something when you see the something in the nothing then you can work towards what you see in that meditation that's where the meditation part comes in. When you meditate you're focusing on your breathing to calm your mind in order to come up with what it is you need to do. When you're in a block then one of the best things you can do is just start making marks making lines making patterns making shapes and then seeing where it all comes together. At least this is what my mom told me and she was babysat by Jackson Pollock and she was an art activist she was on the Florida grants panel for artists, she was an art teacher, and she actually started a lot of the arts and music in my part of Florida including a 1925 theater that she helped renovate and turn into our local theater. She also helps save the loxahatchee River by helping to start the loxahatchee River initiative and she was asked to help read and edit the book on the female highwayman. So if that's not enough then the sheer fact that it helped me to get out of an artist block due to a traumatic brain injury and it was one of the ways that got it so that I could draw and paint again when I even lost half my vocabulary, it makes it worth it to me. But art is made to cause a reaction so the fact that you are reacting to the art that you're creating by automatically painting means that it's art and not all art has to be about learning technique we can get better on the creativity side you have to have both.

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing. 🙂

  • @feliciastuddard755
    @feliciastuddard7552 жыл бұрын

    There are different types of mediation not just the one your thinking of.

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 жыл бұрын

    That seems to be what a lot of people think and I agree that I could be wrong about the whole thing. However in my experience even with eastern examples of meditation in martial arts the idea is not about clearing your mind of all thought but rather clearing your mind of everyday distractions so you can then focus your mind on one thing entirely. Like I said, I could be wrong. Thank you for sharing Felicia!

  • @meltemashley1808
    @meltemashley1808 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for telling the truth….🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for appreciating it. 🙂

  • @meltemashley1808
    @meltemashley1808 Жыл бұрын

    AND GUESS WHAT EVERYTIME I LOOK AT MY DOODLING I SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.. IT IS VERY ENTERTAINING…..

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    Жыл бұрын

    That's one of the best parts.

  • @MisterNiles
    @MisterNiles Жыл бұрын

    "Tiles in the bathroom" There is nothing weird about being inspired by tiles. MC Escher was deeply influenced by tiles on walls. Granted, the tiles were the tiles in Alhambra, but still. And the work he did in that area has been recognized by mathematicians and cosmologists as an accurate artistic representation of mathematics.

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    Жыл бұрын

    Good to know I'm on the right track. Lol.

  • @Dehumanizer3000
    @Dehumanizer300010 ай бұрын

    Automatic Drawing seems like a warm up

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    10 ай бұрын

    It could be. I know a lot of people use it that way.

  • @jaedo71
    @jaedo713 жыл бұрын

    I agree with you totally! I am going to take my "automatic doodles" and develop them into drawing-paintings.

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hello Shmotzy! That is a great way to inspire some creativity. I'm glad you got something out of this. Thank you for watching and have a great day!

  • @jaedo71

    @jaedo71

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@IllustrationsByPete Yeah, I have been wanting to do some abstract drawing lately.

  • @thelifeofbrandoncooney6099
    @thelifeofbrandoncooney6099Ай бұрын

    99% of the time when someone creates an artwork from "automaticism" you just don't know what it is. It's art without thought. 'doodles' contain things that most people can identify. Stuff that needed THOUGHTS to create.

  • @juliasmaistrla4407
    @juliasmaistrla44077 ай бұрын

    Hm this makes a lot of sense

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    7 ай бұрын

    Thank you Julia! I'm glad you think so. A lot of people disagree with me here. 🙂

  • @mesasavage
    @mesasavage Жыл бұрын

    Art with rules? No thanks. I do what I call automatic drawing, but also what I call automatic illustration and hybrid drawing which branch out from your definition of “automatic drawing”. All three methods start with unconsciously applied lines and shapes. However when I start to notice images or patterns emerging I either change directions or go with it and define what I’m seeing. A sort of zig-zag method. I’ve been doing this for decades to various degrees. I didn’t even know what to call it until someone told me it was “Automatic Drawing”. Who know such terms were so loaded with rules and expectations. Now I regret ever labeling it. Oh well, back to letting the demons out and trapping them in two dimensions…

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a very creative way to create. Many times when I don't know where to start I make some random lines on a page and then start from there. Seems like what you are explaining but you go into it a little more. Nothing wrong with that, do what you enjoy. Thanks for sharing!

  • @carolharper268
    @carolharper268 Жыл бұрын

    In your doodle, it looks like a face, bottom left with the rest of the picture being spewed out. The rest of it reminds me of Salvador Dali. ❤

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    Жыл бұрын

    That is a great compliment. I'll take it! Thanks Carol. 🙂

  • @meltemashley1808
    @meltemashley1808 Жыл бұрын

    Abstract drawing and doodling is not the same or intuitive painting and doodling … what is the difference????

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a great question. I would say that doodling and intuitive art are very similar if not the same. With both you end up just drawing random shapes and then when you find an area of interest you develop it in an intentional way. I think people might classify them differently but to me they are the same. Thanks for the question!

  • @dlh1947us
    @dlh1947us2 ай бұрын

    As an artist I see no reason to categorize art. I leave that to the historian.

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 ай бұрын

    That's one way to go about it. 👍🏻

  • @Alex-kh9ju
    @Alex-kh9ju2 жыл бұрын

    Your definition of meditation is half correct. Western style meditation is focused and with conscious intent. Buddhist and Yoga meditation is about release of thought and reaching the space between thoughts or a place without thought.

  • @Alex-kh9ju

    @Alex-kh9ju

    2 жыл бұрын

    I often start with automatic drawing, then shift to doodling wherever my mind starts to see something

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello Alex. Thank you for that clarification. Can you reach a place without thought while performing an action or task such as drawing? Or does the fact that you are continuously trying to grip a pen and keep it moving while not trying to focus on anything counteract each other? Also, what you're describing is the only way that I get any value out of automatic drawing. I've been doing it since I put up this video and for me it really has no other value but I'm not saying it hasn't been valuable at all. Thanks.

  • @death057
    @death0572 ай бұрын

    Actually I see a whole cluster of crystals in your drawing. Painting whatever you want to call it. It's not terrible it's a start give a feeling the next video will be more on that subject. Trust the process

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 ай бұрын

    👍🏻

  • @Envy_Level_Zero
    @Envy_Level_Zero Жыл бұрын

    By definition everyone of these "automatic drawing" experts is making abstract doodles... Kinda disapointing.

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    Жыл бұрын

    It's ok. I don't recommend getting worked up over things like this. It's not worth it. I'm an abstract doodler and proud of it. 🙂

  • @Socrates...
    @Socrates...3 жыл бұрын

    maybe automatic drawing breaks reflexive thinking

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hello Socrates! That could be the case but I think people claim that automatic drawing causes a type of subconscious reflexive thought. Almost like the brain teaching itself without making a conscious thought of the person performing the task. It's interesting to think about. Thanks for that insight. You could be right. Have a great day!

  • @rachellane2836
    @rachellane28362 жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry, you seem to have completely missed the point. I hope one day you get it, it is an extremely creative and medatative practice. It's not what you seem to think it is.

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello Rachel. That is very possible. After over a year of continuing to practice this I still haven't really found a benefit other than doing it for a quick moment when I don't know where to start. Then it gives me a few lines to jump off of as I continue to draw. But maybe one day I'll understand. Thanks for your input.

  • @msDanielp369
    @msDanielp3693 жыл бұрын

    well dawg, what I heard from the last video was that automatic drawing is supposed to be relaxing, mmm the, -also - this about just letting go…- super important, the playfulness, indeed subconscious aspect of the mind… hmmm what happened,- excuse me, hmhmm what fucking happened here. aaaa yano… it’s not like if you’re brain dead while… while… simply put, «automatic drawing»,- you see it’s not like if you’re supposed to aim for going blind and in a comma. Engaging.- But, you see, even if you did it blindly, but felt, you’d still see the nice shapes… Albeit very randomly and overlapped. And I want to put this thing for my contrast yes yes pop: Intuition And that right there is beauty. You see I’m not even thinking my comment, indeed in the, in the, conscious mind, call it prefrontal cortex maybe, something something, there’s so much complexity though… And just wallowing in there… I mean, even just for settled relatability, just think how… if you’re enjoying it… ahh enjoying it, it could NEVER go wrong. … That tells a lot. Also hey, call it bonus if you will, but this is where my this idea came from. This that, hmm in any case… it may show your mind patterns… And if you suddenly snap back to reality once, looking at an, indeed automatic drawing, and it fucking sucks, that right there is nature. Maybe natural selection when you’d realize life is not worth it; already had obliterated the specie with thermonuclear weapons colab with the North Koreans, like a scoundrel! ahhh but I’m gonna prefer to and want to now draw glossy sakuras mmmm. Yes the pink trees LOL. pink LOL.

  • @IllustrationsByPete

    @IllustrationsByPete

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hello Daniel! I have done a few more videos on automatic drawing since this one and I've come to appreciate it for what it does for me. I think everyone relates to it a little differently. Thank you for your insights.

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