Austin Reaves on LeBron, Lakers, and Money | “Thank God 'Bron had a minicamp!” | S2 E21

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In an interview conducted on location in Los Angeles, POINT FORWARD welcomes Los Angeles Laker AUSTIN REAVES to the show. With ANDRE IGUODALA unavailable due to Golden State Warrior commitments, fellow host EVAN TURNER holds us down and goes deep with the red-hot Reaves about his upbringing in tiny Newark, Arkansas. While most of his classmates were partying and hanging out, Reaves was following his family’s example in the gym. And once he got discovered by the broader basketball world, folks like Lon Kruger, Rajon Rondo and his current teammate, LeBron James, have helped push him to being one of the top second-year players in the NBA.
The Point Forward podcast, hosted by former NBA teammates and current best friends Andre Iguodala and Evan Turner, uses basketball as a pretext to honestly and openly talk about business, culture, race, tech, and, yes, sports. Specifically, over the course of weekly hour-long episodes that drop on #pointforwardfriday, Iguodala and Turner, discuss and debate current national and global events in a way that is meant to resonate with everyone from the Silicon Valley elite to teenagers on the south side of Chicago.
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  • @HonkiePonkie14
    @HonkiePonkie14 Жыл бұрын

    The timing of this interview is perfect. Well done!

  • @moeeshangpate6320

    @moeeshangpate6320

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeeeeaah ur absolutely right about that my man!! Evan Turner knew exactly what he was doing 👏🏾 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @aquaviii

    @aquaviii

    Жыл бұрын

    AR 15 Goated 😅🐐

  • @kevinmead6902

    @kevinmead6902

    Жыл бұрын

    100%

  • @travisjohnson6703
    @travisjohnson6703 Жыл бұрын

    Reaves got a personal coach reviewing his film for improvements-his mom! Absolutely amazing.

  • @East_The_Gawd
    @East_The_Gawd Жыл бұрын

    Everytime I have this in that background I gotta remember I’m listening to ET and not Lil Yachty lmao

  • @redlionplumbing

    @redlionplumbing

    Жыл бұрын

    I tOoK a WaAaAaAaLk To PoLaNd

  • @Bigdvirgoco07

    @Bigdvirgoco07

    Жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @DapperDirector_

    @DapperDirector_

    Жыл бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @jpx793

    @jpx793

    Жыл бұрын

    Bruh 😂

  • @whydopeoplealwayssayuhm

    @whydopeoplealwayssayuhm

    Жыл бұрын

    Bruhhhhhhh 😂 i didn't even realize that. and today i just realized tristan thompson sounds damn near the same as richard jefferson while listening to the draymond show lmao

  • @edP1212
    @edP1212 Жыл бұрын

    As a Laker fan, you gotta love this kid. When he announces where he gonna play for the next couple years on this Podcast, he better be staying in the Purple and Gold! To the Lakers organization, pay this man his money! He earned it through hard work and dedication!

  • @TheAndokid1

    @TheAndokid1

    Жыл бұрын

    Seems like he’s the one one on the Lakers that isn’t a douche bag.

  • @RodneyDavis

    @RodneyDavis

    Жыл бұрын

    I ain't no Laker fan... and I still really love this kid. No bull, as real as it gets, and just a COOL human!

  • @TheAndokid1

    @TheAndokid1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RodneyDavis yeah I’m not really a laker fan either since I’m not really a fan of LeBron, but this kid seems down to earth.

  • @TuNnL
    @TuNnL Жыл бұрын

    Watching this whole interview, you realize just how grounded and mature Reaves is compared to a lot of professional athletes. That's how you know that even though he has the looks of a teenager, he's really an older, second year player who did more than just develop his game in college. He developed as an all-around human being. Hope the money doesn't change him, 'cause Mr. Newark, Arkansas is about to be filthy rich. 🏀💰📜

  • @pointforward

    @pointforward

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, he's older in every way...and on paper, ha.

  • @charleston3698

    @charleston3698

    Жыл бұрын

    Better than J 's ttute

  • @nickharriell4180

    @nickharriell4180

    Жыл бұрын

    Yo, no doubt, my man’s getting paid this summer.

  • @eddysphagetti4009

    @eddysphagetti4009

    Жыл бұрын

    Old soul fasho

  • @moniquewrites9046

    @moniquewrites9046

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pointforward I really respect the homework you all did on this podcast and for bringing spotlight on one of NBA fan favorites.

  • @brentperry4627
    @brentperry4627 Жыл бұрын

    I’m black and I cringe at Austin continuously being so blatantly called the “white boy” hooping - That’s ignorant. He’s obviously white, but you don’t have to keep pointing it out; it doesn’t define him. I don’t like prejudice talk from anyone, especially coming from my people.

  • @vadalarc2948

    @vadalarc2948

    Жыл бұрын

    nah bruh! Kendrick Perkins shakin his head! LAKERS is Lebron nd AD team. not that whitey

  • @kaine9721

    @kaine9721

    Жыл бұрын

    @@vadalarc2948 no one’s saying the lakers are Austin reaves team🤡

  • @swaeskee7821

    @swaeskee7821

    Жыл бұрын

    Evan sound like lil yachthy

  • @moniquewrites9046

    @moniquewrites9046

    Жыл бұрын

    @@vadalarc2948 you’re a part of the problem

  • @miketexas4549

    @miketexas4549

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm white and I love Morgan Freeman's take - "do you want to end racism? STOP TALKING ABOUT IT." 99% of people are good human beings that don't see race but rather character. It's that 1% (that is present in ALL races) that the media blasts 24/7 to trick us into thinking that's the state of America. IT ISN'T.

  • @oneminute7191
    @oneminute7191 Жыл бұрын

    Austin Reaves is playing like John Wick! Killing everyone with his Pivot Foot!

  • @tupacalypse88

    @tupacalypse88

    Жыл бұрын

    is 4 good I'm seeing it tomorrow

  • @moeeshangpate6320

    @moeeshangpate6320

    Жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂GOOD ANALOGY DOGGY!! U RIGHT ABOUT THAT THO, THE KID IS "BOSS BALLIN" RIGHT NOW!! SEEEEEE U GOT ME GOIN' BACK 2 THE 80'S & 90'S WIT THE SLANG😂😂😂😂 KOBE WOULD BE AMAZED @ AUSTIN REEVES, NO DOUBT🙏🏾🙏🏾💜💛👑👑👑#ONAQUEST2THEFINALS💪🏾

  • @scratchpenny

    @scratchpenny

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tupacalypse88 I heard it's great! The reviews are great.

  • @none-vt2ds

    @none-vt2ds

    Жыл бұрын

    @@scratchpenny john wick die in 4

  • @jasontroy3911
    @jasontroy3911 Жыл бұрын

    AR living the dream what a story coming from nowhere and so humble you have love this guy

  • @aquaviii

    @aquaviii

    Жыл бұрын

    Small Town now on the Lakeshow

  • @mindyourbusiness1934

    @mindyourbusiness1934

    Жыл бұрын

    First Derek Fisher now Austin Reaves

  • @sashinseneviratne3290
    @sashinseneviratne3290 Жыл бұрын

    What a journey this man has been !! Such a inspiration ❤

  • @pointforward

    @pointforward

    Жыл бұрын

    For real!

  • @richyung5524
    @richyung5524 Жыл бұрын

    Bron still got Evan turner SALTY🤣

  • @KrisMcCauley
    @KrisMcCauley Жыл бұрын

    Reaves is the man. Great interview man. You asked amazing questions

  • @pointforward

    @pointforward

    Жыл бұрын

    Appreciate you!

  • @jayess431

    @jayess431

    Жыл бұрын

    Bahahahha you actually believe that you ask amazing questions bahahah

  • @NL-mj5nh

    @NL-mj5nh

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jayess431hating ahhhh nihhhh , where yo podcast ?

  • @rayparsa3069

    @rayparsa3069

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@jayess431 ... congratulations! You got as many brain cells as your shoe size.

  • @DrProfessorWeed
    @DrProfessorWeed Жыл бұрын

    It's rare to find guys this confident and fearless at such a young age. He is exactly the type of guy every single team needs in order to win a championship.

  • @gregorybloomfield
    @gregorybloomfield Жыл бұрын

    I am very proud of Reeves , his playing abilities is beyond this world. I believe he is going to be one of the greatest players to play this game basketball 🏀

  • @pointforward

    @pointforward

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh.

  • @thingsofinterest603

    @thingsofinterest603

    Жыл бұрын

    Looool, I love his game but come on dude.

  • @tripleraze321

    @tripleraze321

    Жыл бұрын

    I know what you meant there. By greatest player you meant greatest locker room teammate, role player, and energy setter.

  • @khalildempsey7733

    @khalildempsey7733

    Жыл бұрын

    buggin

  • @gh8066

    @gh8066

    Жыл бұрын

    🧢

  • @imgrizz.
    @imgrizz. Жыл бұрын

    Look at Austin man, so inspirational.

  • @slebnation2035
    @slebnation2035 Жыл бұрын

    Reaves is a super underrated piece for the Lakers

  • @RichardGelilioJr
    @RichardGelilioJr Жыл бұрын

    He plays kinda like Manu, his pick and roll offense is smooth, pass the ball to open teammates, aggressive. Keep up the hard work AR15!

  • @cm9241

    @cm9241

    Жыл бұрын

    I see that. He's a big fan of the euro step too

  • @akidotaco
    @akidotaco Жыл бұрын

    Evan is a great interviewer. It's clear he researched before interviewing and even more impressive he doesn't have notes and is able to recall his research in the interview on a dime. But most importantly he doesn't keep the questions to his prepared questions, but also listens to Austin's responses and takes an interesting thing Austin says to throw out questions related to Austin's responses. Great stuff, Evan. You're excellent! You have a great talent for this.

  • @bryanchandler3486
    @bryanchandler3486 Жыл бұрын

    I love how most the NBA players are so chill off the court even when they're vicious enemies when the game's on.

  • @plainman9887
    @plainman9887 Жыл бұрын

    Gotta support my fellow Arkansas brother...he's a good success story.

  • @theena
    @theena Жыл бұрын

    This kid is the reason I keep watching Lakers games. Hooper with a capital H. And I can so see Rondo taking this one under his wing.

  • @tealsquare
    @tealsquare Жыл бұрын

    Incredible interview of an incredible young man. Subscribed!

  • @pointforward

    @pointforward

    Жыл бұрын

    Appreciate you!

  • @eddie8873
    @eddie8873 Жыл бұрын

    Glad I watched this interview! Hope the Lakers can spark some magic and make an exciting postseason run.

  • @johnbrent9067
    @johnbrent9067 Жыл бұрын

    Nice interview. Evan did a great job with his interview, a real natural conversationalist.

  • @cmoney1887
    @cmoney1887 Жыл бұрын

    Great 1 on 1 by Et. Wouldn’t have ever expected him to be an interviewer but it works

  • @kodakzack1515
    @kodakzack1515 Жыл бұрын

    crazy i played him and his brother in high school, during that time his brother spencer was cooooold, and then going into his jr and senior year Austin went from 6 ftish to 6’ 5”

  • @jiggyjay682
    @jiggyjay682 Жыл бұрын

    This dude is high on life and I love it!

  • @kiwibcs
    @kiwibcs Жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed your interview.

  • @trakc17
    @trakc17 Жыл бұрын

    he has such a polished game always knew he was going to shine, lakers better not get rid of him, players like him are how teams win chips

  • @bigbearlifememories
    @bigbearlifememories Жыл бұрын

    So blessed I was able to watch this man live a few weeks ago in OKC he has that magic touch 🪄

  • @enchydeon5921
    @enchydeon5921 Жыл бұрын

    Aw very cool story to a very humble player right now😍keep going Austin Reaves 😊play smarter and harder as usually you are doing😊❤️

  • @ksspguam
    @ksspguam Жыл бұрын

    Good Show! Good Interview Point Foward. Very inspiring. Hoping some upcoming hoops tear watch it.

  • @LarrySalamander
    @LarrySalamander Жыл бұрын

    I just like seeing people succeed no matter the race. 🙏🏼

  • @RealEstateTrenches
    @RealEstateTrenches Жыл бұрын

    Awesome interview! No notes and firing away…shows you put the time in on prep. Subscribed and enjoying your other interviews.

  • @pointforward

    @pointforward

    Жыл бұрын

    Really appreciate the kind words.

  • @Carfeu
    @Carfeu Жыл бұрын

    Caruso walked so Reaves could run. This kid is special.

  • @ryu-ken

    @ryu-ken

    Жыл бұрын

    I have a feeling both of then gonna end up on the lakers at the same time one day. AC coming back

  • @jdawg9137

    @jdawg9137

    Жыл бұрын

    Why??? Cause they both white, stop.

  • @bballgriot4060
    @bballgriot4060 Жыл бұрын

    He's a 2nd Generation Athlete that learned from his Dad like Pete Maravich did. Very strong base for success.

  • @johnanderson8096
    @johnanderson8096 Жыл бұрын

    EXCELLENT INTERVIEW!!!!!!!

  • @juanjuan799
    @juanjuan799 Жыл бұрын

    Hope, the lakers, keep him for The rest of his career. His a Great person, and a fantastic Player. Wish Austin Reaves, The best.

  • @drewnakayama8372
    @drewnakayama8372 Жыл бұрын

    Big fan of AR, thanks for sitting down with him. Really hope he gets a good offer from LA but wherever he goes I always root for ex-Lakers to succeed.

  • @bansheeofinisheerin

    @bansheeofinisheerin

    Жыл бұрын

    5 years, $376 million, guaranteed

  • @TuNnL

    @TuNnL

    Жыл бұрын

    Most the L.A. Lakers can offer off the jump is 4 years/ $50 million under the Gilbert Arenas provision of the CBA. Austin Reaves will be a restricted free agent, though, so if another NBA team offers more, the Lakers can match. "More" would be a 'poison pill,' in the Year 3 and Year 4, but L.A. can afford it, because LeBron and probably A.D. will be gone by then. This all assumes Rob Pelinka reaches a good deal with D'Angelo Russell, who will be the biggest chunk of the Lakers off-season free agency cap. 🏀💰📜

  • @DeadshotBlackOp
    @DeadshotBlackOp Жыл бұрын

    That story when he shot the ball and it felt horrible but he made it all net. Lmaooo

  • @pointforward

    @pointforward

    Жыл бұрын

    All hoopers can commiserate!

  • @Megabigsee
    @Megabigsee Жыл бұрын

    Love this kid, he has that something in him like John Stockton,Joe Dumars come to mind, humble but competitive and fierce

  • @katara6227
    @katara6227 Жыл бұрын

    Great interview, thank you!

  • @NiWdLES
    @NiWdLES Жыл бұрын

    Austin Reaves is my favorite Laker right now.

  • @eltoratotv
    @eltoratotv Жыл бұрын

    yowww i just like this kind of podcast! hosted by real nba players keeping it real and honest! thankss

  • @freakboy40
    @freakboy40 Жыл бұрын

    I wanted to check this out because I am a big fan of this guy. He has some swag to his game. Love it!

  • @michaeljohnston980
    @michaeljohnston980 Жыл бұрын

    Cool podcast and solid interviewing chops from Turner

  • @icyourbs
    @icyourbs Жыл бұрын

    Good interview, great questions!

  • @josephkormylo1975
    @josephkormylo1975 Жыл бұрын

    This interviewer is great! Shoutout to Austin!

  • @ksolo2513
    @ksolo2513 Жыл бұрын

    Man I mess with reaves heavy!! That’s my boy 💯

  • @billshade9763
    @billshade976311 ай бұрын

    Huge Congrats to this brother He's a true Baller hard work determination committment

  • @robertwilliams-np6wb
    @robertwilliams-np6wb Жыл бұрын

    Stopped by for the Austin Reaves hook. Good show. Evan Turner is ready for primetime. Subscribed. Austin Reaves is going to be a Laker star.

  • @jfksblackbook2635
    @jfksblackbook2635 Жыл бұрын

    I had the wrong opinion of Evan Turner. Media can spin whatever he seems like a down to earth dude and this interview was great he asked the right questions and let Austin talk!

  • @__L_S_B__
    @__L_S_B__ Жыл бұрын

    IQ, Intangibles and confidence are propelling Austin right now

  • @kwenton33
    @kwenton33 Жыл бұрын

    Boy was cold in high school in Arkansas boy dropped 73 on Forrest City in the State Championship game an 59 pts against us (McGehee Owls) an we had 59 pts as a team. 😂😂

  • @kwenton33

    @kwenton33

    Жыл бұрын

    Not too mention 73 pts with a Triple Double 🤣 I root for you all the time AR 💯

  • @ChanceDHarrisONE
    @ChanceDHarrisONE Жыл бұрын

    Great show. Thank you

  • @pointforward

    @pointforward

    Жыл бұрын

    We really appreciate you supporting this ep! To catch all the great content coming from the pod, please consider subscribing.

  • @tutran8363
    @tutran836310 ай бұрын

    The perfect balance between confidence and humility. 😊

  • @bradaskew4900
    @bradaskew49009 ай бұрын

    Evan Turner, you're a great interviewer!!

  • @bluex610
    @bluex610 Жыл бұрын

    What an amazing story. Small town, barely any notoriety, goes undrafted to his favorite team, alongside the 2nd best player. Then, on the brink of missing the playoffs with Lebron going down and he balls out and helps the Lakers will their way in. He earned his way in, and now he's about to get that bag.

  • @StrictlyStrange67
    @StrictlyStrange67 Жыл бұрын

    One thing people don't think about is the locker room atmosphere. It can be very intimidating going into a locker room not knowing anyone (my freshman year at college playing) I couldn't imagine walking into the locker room with lebron, AD, Russ, Rondo... shit would be intense

  • @blacksuede
    @blacksuede Жыл бұрын

    Glad to see former players ask good questions.

  • @richardrojas6306
    @richardrojas630611 ай бұрын

    Excellent interview and great questions, Mr. Turner. AR your fabulous and very hungry to become the best you can be. I wish you always the best and please stay a Laker.

  • @kpennballer7
    @kpennballer7 Жыл бұрын

    Great episode🔥💪🏾

  • @youngnebula187
    @youngnebula187 Жыл бұрын

    Austin is a smooth dude 😌🏀👌🏽

  • @natesmalls82
    @natesmalls82 Жыл бұрын

    There face when they say cream for the first time kills me lmao

  • @WestaeastMusic
    @WestaeastMusic Жыл бұрын

    AR-15!!! love this dude, hopefully he gets what he wants and continues to rep LakerNation!

  • @mauricemallari6365
    @mauricemallari6365 Жыл бұрын

    He knew that he belonged from the moment he showed out in training camp. Supreme confidence

  • @Giemelkingplayz
    @Giemelkingplayz Жыл бұрын

    Really enjoy this! Say less!

  • @LaFondInvest
    @LaFondInvest Жыл бұрын

    Austin is a true basketball player.

  • @mheiseus
    @mheiseus Жыл бұрын

    The next Jerry West ❤

  • @CriusXI
    @CriusXI Жыл бұрын

    Been a huge AR fan for a while now

  • @EnterScreenameHere
    @EnterScreenameHere11 ай бұрын

    dope interview

  • @jorgegarcia5180
    @jorgegarcia5180 Жыл бұрын

    Man... This guy has that thing that makes you want to root for him. I could only imagine what he will be in a few years. I imagine a taller John Stockton. I want to see the ball in his hands but even more it's what he does without the ball.

  • @litobrown6572

    @litobrown6572

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeahh agree with broh taller version of Jhon Stockton.. He will be even better soon.. I guese

  • @himmothy111

    @himmothy111

    Жыл бұрын

    @@litobrown6572 idk, Stockton a pass first player, reeves a 3 level scorer

  • @Eric-cl3nl
    @Eric-cl3nl Жыл бұрын

    great interview!

  • @controversialmann5345
    @controversialmann5345 Жыл бұрын

    Reaves needs to be a Laker forever. ROB AND JEANIE NEED TO RESIGN HIM FIRST THING IN THE MORNING DURING THE OFFSEASON!

  • @hlumelomelo1829
    @hlumelomelo1829 Жыл бұрын

    great interview

  • @carlolimen3479
    @carlolimen3479 Жыл бұрын

    Love d way you interviewed AR15 his very nice looking forward to see him again ❤❤❤ New sub here

  • @PossMcLeod
    @PossMcLeod Жыл бұрын

    "Just don't hit the backboard!" haha. LOVE IT! #Ar15 💜🧡

  • @randymorehead4516
    @randymorehead4516 Жыл бұрын

    Great man and teammate

  • @matheuscouri2225
    @matheuscouri2225 Жыл бұрын

    great job keep up

  • @pointforward

    @pointforward

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @mreppen1
    @mreppen1 Жыл бұрын

    I love this guy.

  • @jacobview
    @jacobview Жыл бұрын

    Kobe woulda loved Reaves. I know that for damn sure.

  • @gasem9539
    @gasem9539 Жыл бұрын

    im glad evan lets him know what it is when it comes to the GOAT lol!

  • @ShaqKicks
    @ShaqKicks Жыл бұрын

    such a clutch player

  • @kyle2727
    @kyle2727 Жыл бұрын

    this dude doesn't need a podcast

  • @philswiftispapa4962
    @philswiftispapa4962 Жыл бұрын

    sup ET. glad to see you making waves again. O-H …

  • @grapesoda24
    @grapesoda24 Жыл бұрын

    Humble beast

  • @Channel--Ai

    @Channel--Ai

    Жыл бұрын

    He also has a hardcore chip on his shoulder

  • @STFP88
    @STFP88 Жыл бұрын

    The fact he was such a big Kobe fan shows why he made fun of Bron back in the day! I used to be like that too when i was younger! Mad Lakershow and Kobe fan! We didnt really like the Bron and Kobe talks who was a better player back then haha! But when i got older and when Bron joined the Lakers.... Bron now is my favorite player in the league! Sorry but not sorry!

  • @srourfamily
    @srourfamily Жыл бұрын

    Evan should write books, i enjoy his question!!!!!!!

  • @bruh.2516
    @bruh.2516 Жыл бұрын

    Shoutout to ET but Iguodala ima big fan 💪

  • @Cupcakelake38
    @Cupcakelake38 Жыл бұрын

    great interviewer

  • @pointforward

    @pointforward

    Жыл бұрын

    🙏🏽

  • @trackstar9133
    @trackstar9133 Жыл бұрын

    Good looking out by Rondo. Hope to see Austin suceed

  • @zicomafia6758
    @zicomafia6758 Жыл бұрын

    I came here for AR15 ...shout out all laker fans searching for reaves content ....but this host is remarkable .....lol shout out evan .....

  • @pointforward

    @pointforward

    Жыл бұрын

    We'll take it as a compliment -- sub to the channel for more!

  • @zicomafia6758

    @zicomafia6758

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pointforward most definitely

  • @odamnitssam
    @odamnitssam Жыл бұрын

    You’re low key really good at this. How pleasantly random

  • @doindado4328
    @doindado4328 Жыл бұрын

    i fw bro answer for that Ruso comparison lmao i felt him on that

  • @jjrose2585
    @jjrose2585 Жыл бұрын

    Evan turner saying success 😭😂

  • @superme246
    @superme246 Жыл бұрын

    An Under-rated player who has MVP potential❤

  • @angelaf-rachal3455
    @angelaf-rachal345510 ай бұрын

    I'm putting it out there and he will be a ALL ⭐ sooner than later.

  • @tealsquare
    @tealsquare Жыл бұрын

    Pat Bev caught strays in this 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @nevertime1246
    @nevertime12466 ай бұрын

    Great interview

  • @TheAndokid1

    @TheAndokid1

    Ай бұрын

    it really was. Austin just comes across he doesn't really like to be interviewed, but he seemed into this interview.

  • @mauricet36
    @mauricet36 Жыл бұрын

    Nba podcasts are the best

  • @warrentoles3127
    @warrentoles3127 Жыл бұрын

    @19:32 Austin Reeves: "y'all witnessed history tonight " Agents: "let's trade him".

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