Quite a lot of the issues the Professor lists were eliminated. I have a 1984 mini, which has a clip on the back of the front seats so they don't crush the driver and front passenger, rear seat belts (which I admit I fitted myself), and an updated door design that isn't going to fly open. Admittedly I'd still get crunched in a front-on crash, or immolated in a roll, but I don't intend to do either!

@user-sf7kl9uh7k

5 ай бұрын

Who does intend to do either of those things, I guess that's why it's called an accident?

All old cars were like this. They simply weren't designed for safety first. You could take your pick.

@GamezGames19

8 жыл бұрын

Not the Volvo Amazon, it had a safety cage and seat belts like a modern car

@jonathan___4684

4 жыл бұрын

@@GamezGames19 I think it's safe to say that pretty much any Volvo from any decade of any year where across the board much much safer cars compared to anything else being sold along side it :D Volvo as well as Saab where always very much into building safer cars

@user-sf7kl9uh7k

5 ай бұрын

jonathan___4684 Despite that, nothing produced pre 90's can be considered safe by modern standards.

I’ve been a mini specialist for 30 years and have seen quite a lot of crashed minis but no serious injuries in any of them . A good condition mini is quite good in a crash .

The Mini did exactly what it was mean't to do, transport people about as economically as possible, for about town it was in it's element, they were also great fun to drive. Most competitors copied the Mini's layout but made them bigger, but never had the Mini's character.

Im getting one for ym first car, yes this has scared me a bit but fuck it - i'm still getting it. And if i do die, i would have died doing/driving something that i absolutely love!

@aidans9010

2 жыл бұрын

Hi did you end up dying?

still safer that a motorcycle..

@hunghuge7717

9 жыл бұрын

Ian Mcdowell Not always. In certain situations you may go over the car off a bike but you're going to die in a mini. Infact if a mini and a bike had a head on I think I would rather be on the bike in decent gear. Fly over the top, land, slide. The mini driver has to deal with 1/4 of a tonne of bike slamming the car. Something most cars wouldn't be too bothered about but these would collapse pretty easily.

@sidescrollin

9 жыл бұрын

I'd love to know how much you practice crashing your bike to maneuver yourself out of the way of the oncoming car in all angles and situations. If you won't drive a mini because it is unsafe, do you even go outside? If you walk on the sidewalk a car may pull over and hit you! What is a tornado comes and blows your house down? Can you house stand those forces? Don't act like you don't do something because it is so incredibly unsafe and do things that are just as unsafe on a regular basis.

@hunghuge7717

9 жыл бұрын

Ian Mcdowell That's just a daft way of bending the fact it's a deathtrap if you have a bump. Simple fact is cars have moved on. 20mph bumps these days are just that - you're unlikely to get any injuries at all. Even at 40mph (where ncap test) you're going to walk away with bruises from most modern cars. There are risks in everything but why would you multiply that risk many times over to drive what amounts to a slow, poor riding, rust prone, poorly made old banger? That's like saying I'll not get on a plane because hanging on the wing isn't as safe. You're still flying.

@sidescrollin

9 жыл бұрын

I'm bending the fact but you are over here trying to claim superiority with a motorcycle? Who gives a shit? Everything is unsafe. I hate when people trash driving classic cars because they are unsafe because it is such a silly line to draw. Do you wear a bulletproof vest when you go out in case there is a shooting? Do you wear a bright vest and prepare to jump out of the way at any second when walking on the sidewalk, in case a drunk driver runs you over? Do you walk around with a fire extinguisher in case of a fire? Those all sound incredibly ridiculous to you, but there is always a chance of any of them happening, just as there is always a chance of getting in an accident in your car. I am not going to soil my entire life by driving a mini van with 8000 airbags because im afraid of getting into an accident just like I am not going to wear a hard hat around town. Also, driving around massive cars to protect yourself is the only reason you need to drive around a massive car to protect yourself. If people would stop buying massive vehicles that they don't need, the roadways would be much safer. slow, poor riding, blah blah. What do you drive a civic? Is the mini slow relative to cars today? Yes. Is it small? Yes. Does it ride like a benz? No. Is it fun? Yes. That is why people drive them. If you don't get it, then go "enjoy" a drive in your boring appliance and tell yourself you can never understand why people enjoy driving cars and want to drive ones that are fun, and just get over it. You will probably never understand, so there is no point in wondering or being upset over it.

@briansaiditsoitmustbetrue4206

7 жыл бұрын

You have got an escape hatch on a motorcycle

All classic cars are relatively dangerous in comparison with modern cars, however the lack of speed and torque in an unmodified classic tends to change the way you drive and makes you more passive and less likely to attempt dangerous overtaking.

Not surprising it was unsafe - virtually no cars at the time had any safety equipment whatsoever. Immense American cars from 1959 were unsafe as well, even though they had a great deal more metal around all the passengers than the Mini did. It took many years for various government requirements to come into effect to not only make cars themselves safer, but also to legally require everyone to wear 3-point seatbelts inside them, and for roads and everything on them and on either side of them much less dangerous too. Having been born in 1954, I'm grateful that the serious crashes I was in occurred when cars and equipment were much improved.

Apparently the mini was a "failure" because it had to be withdrawn from north America, despite the fact that it remained in production for 41 years and sold almost 5 1/2 million cars. I simply wish the British car industry had suffered many more of these "failures".

It's a human go cart but that's why we love em!! I love mine owned 22yrs 1986 mini city e wouldn't have a bad word said about it, except colour (beige) 😅

@TitanDirt04 The door handles and the catch on the bottom of the seats were countered pretty early on, any car from around 1970+ would have these sorted out. But yes, 1980 models are safer than the earlier ones due to those problems being fixed, but if you wanted the safest out of the Classic Minis then you would want one from around 1997+ due to the side impact bars in the doors, however, these models then had more electrics so reliability went down, however much quicker and also has a 5 speed.

Definitely rings bells. The classic Mini certainly lacks crumple zones. In 1970 my parents and I drove 800 miles in our Mini to Le Teil in the Rhône valley, and with a grip bag behind the passenger seat (of necessity because of the size of the Mini boot) it was possible to get a decent enough sleep in the back in the "feetas" position (feet as near your arse as you could get them). But being over 6 feet I was very aware that there was only a single sheet of metal between my head and another car if we were hit from the side, and the French were pretty wild drivers in them days - and the ones that weren't wild were dozy. A great incentive to take care when it was Mum or Dad's turn for a rest. The door lock wasn't such a concern (it should have been) because we were pioneers of seat belt use. But were Minis that much worse than Fiat 500s, Renault 4s, VW Beetles (with the petrol tank at the front), Ford Populars etc? I remember seeing a programme about the Beetle's faults, which put a lot of emphasis on the risk of being impaled on the steering column. Wiki tells us: "The first Mercedes-Benz car body developed using this patent (i.e. crumple zones) was the 1959 Mercedes W111 “Tail Fin” Saloon - like most desirable features, safety started in the luxury class.

@user-sf7kl9uh7k

5 ай бұрын

those days

2:06 There's a saying "That's the booze talking" but this Jack Daniels did not come out of a barrel.

The stock footage of the fatal wreck was a telling - single vehicle, high speed, into a pylon. Izzy had a point - I'd call the Mini a safe design because I've driven a few of 'em and they're very hard to crash. My Morris Major Elite (based largely on Issigonis' Minor) is also what I would consider to be a safe car...my MOTORBIKE is safe, too. Bad driving is the killer, no matter what your mode of transport.

@Car_and_classic_lover

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree

Cool vid! The fella has a fair point. I've just fitted a race fuel tank inside the boot of my Mini because of that fuel cap crash problem.

I have a Mini Cooper MPi 1998---rebuilt over the last five years and worth 7k up.

@skylined5534

2 жыл бұрын

I bet you can virtually double that price now!

I have got the rest of this programme. It was shown in three parts and this is a small segment. Uploading 3 hours of programme would be an absolute chore!

@thedeadstig123

3 жыл бұрын

what is the name of the show?

Have you got the rest of this program?looks very interesting!

Of course it's not safe if you have a frontal crash with a RAM 1500. However with it's incredible handling, braking (even by today's standard the Cooper S brakes hard) it saved my life and the life of a biker that was overtaking me where it was illegal. He nearly hit me because a car went the other way and I could correct my trajectory to put nearly a wheel in the gutter while braking so he could come back on my way. In a modern car I wouldn't have enough space nor agility to do this.

i own a 1987 mini, and even though its slow, impractical, and quite unsafe, i wouldnt change it for ANY modern supermini, especially the new "mini".

still better millage than some hybrid and easy-to-use and work on

(The crashed Mini looks like an Australian Mini K...it's got quarter vents!)

minis r the best cars ever made they have so much character

You're right. I had an '87 and rolled it. I came out unscathed. The body was still in repairable condition. Wheels were flat and front windscreen smashed but besides the tar taking off my driver door paint - it was alright. I never would've sold it, had I had the money to fix it.

What is this guy telling? The engine of a Mini will never crash into the passenger cabin, because there is subframe holdig it back! II once saw a Mini which crashed straight into a German oak. The tree was standing where the engine used to be - but still the engine did not intrude the cabin! On an other occasion I asked a friend of mine, who was developing Airbags and made crash tests for almost every big car company, about the safety structure of the Mini and what he thought could be made better to it. He told me, that there is not so much to improve. On an side impact for instance the chances are very high, that the opponent will hit one of the axles, because the Mini is so short and this will take much energy out of the impact. Of course the g-levels on the passengers are relatively high in a front crash, because there is no crumple zone - but on the other hand, the Mini is made so stiff and rigid with it´s thick steele panels and welded wings, that there is a very good chance for the cabin to stay intact. Compared to it´s size and the time when it was designed the Mini was a very safe car!

I always thought the Mini was built like a tank! Lol......

@paulthesquid3595

3 жыл бұрын

Well'l like a biscuite tin

@skylined5534

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair for their size the later ones, mk3 onwards were tough little things. A lot better than some contemporary stuff of the time.

You can't argue with the photos of smashed-to-bits Minis. Also, both Issigonis and the bloke on at the end had a point. A car with good visibility (another Mini strong point), good steering, brakes, handling, low roll centre, is less likely to get into an accident than those without. However, you cannot account for other drivers' behaviour, nor for sudden unexpected changes in road surface, whether in the surfacing or because of icing or whatever. Passive and active safety are equally important.

I hope my dad doesn't see this. I just got this as my first car....

@matejbabjak8375

3 жыл бұрын

Same XD

Whats that guy on about? The Mini was a failure? It was one of the most popular cars ever made. Also most of them safety issues that he quotes were corrected after the Mk1

@davidlisney2059

8 жыл бұрын

As much as I like them I think these cars were a commercial failure, certainly they were selling them for less than they cost to make. Perhaps with a bigger marketplace and slightly higher pricing they could have actually made money.

@newuk26

8 жыл бұрын

+David Lisney Its a myth that that they lost money on each car. Only the very basic models were sold at too lower price, and that was rectified in 1975, after which the Mini continued to be sold for another 26 years. It is inconceivable that BMC, BL, Austin Rover, British Aerospace, & BMW all made a car that lost them money. Riley, Wolseley, Triumph, Morris and Austin were brands that were all wound up over the lifetime of the Mini. Those were brands that didn't make money. It wouldn't make sense for any of the parent companies to do away with all them due to poor profits, and keep the Mini going. If they were ruthless enough to do away with a brand dating back to the 1890's then they would have done away with the Mini in a second if it had suited them! Its worth remembering that a new Mini in the 90's was a very expensive car for its market segment.

@g0fvt

8 жыл бұрын

+newuk26 I obviously don't know the caveats, I think they found that the hydrolastic suspension was too expensive...

are you on about the new pandas or the mk1&2? (new pandas are mk3&4) I have what is essentially a mk1 panda

Alec hated safety

what are the odds of rolling it over and having the petrol cap sheered off, which then gets ignited by a spark which then catches fire and this happens all too quickly for anyone to get out? FAR FETCHED.

@chryslerelectronicleanburn1676

6 жыл бұрын

MrClassicDoctorWho not in the movies

i said that and bought one ...if i do have an accident least i enjoyed the time driving it

I own a 1989 Mini Mayfair and its quite annoying how he stereotypes all Mini's as if they are all like the early Mk 1's, if you compare them throughout the 40 years of production, the later ones changed the door handles, added a bar underneath the front seats to hold them in place, seat belts in front and rear, changed the fuel cap, and even added protection inside the doors to be even safer. He could of at least said that this is a Early Mk 1. -.-

Whats the song which starts at 0:35 ??

Damn.. why camera quality from 1950’s ? 😅 Ain’t they all 80’s ??

And theres why the new mini is bigger...

@HRHooChicken

9 жыл бұрын

Maybe... maybe not. The Smart Car is tiny yet incredibly robust. Fifth Gear crashed one into a concrete block at 70mph and it remained in tact. A safer Mini could be made but Binis were designed instead. It needed a makeover, 41 years is a long time to be selling the exact same car.

@388gruardian

9 жыл бұрын

HRHooChicken You are correct that car manufactures need to step up their designs to be legally acceptable by standards. I just see it more as we have less "drivers" and more steering wheel holders on the roads today.

@hunghuge7717

9 жыл бұрын

HRHooChicken The smart car is also a 2 seater with no boot to speak of. Hardly the same thing.

@HRHooChicken

9 жыл бұрын

hung huge True, but how small could it be if it were made into a 4 seater? Close to the size of a classic mini i think. Plus old minis had tiny boots

@hunghuge7717

9 жыл бұрын

HRHooChicken Well the smallest four seaters today are things like the twingo (basically a stretched new smart anyway). It's certainly not as small as the original mini and I would say there is less passenger space in it aswell - certainly in the back. A more realistic comparrisson is something like a Suzuki splash where you could use it for four adults if you really had to.

I LOVE MINI FOREVER !_!

how safe are the mk7's? Just asking

@Car_and_classic_lover

3 жыл бұрын

Significantly better as they have an airbag and side impact beams in the doors and a fuel cut off switch so if you are in an accident the fuel will cut off making sure no fuel escapes the car

Deathtrap.

So which mini is updated so you're less likely to die?

a car well ahead of it's time, I love mini's full of character not like the bmw version a pile of shite.

@sidescrollin

10 жыл бұрын

the new mini is miles better than most other cars you can get on the market today. Is it the same as the original? No. But you could find a total pile of crap from 50 years ago that is more fun to drive and has more character than any new cars, so that isnt a good comparison

@HRHooChicken

9 жыл бұрын

They're two completely different cars really. Binis are proper cars with everything the customers have demanded. The classic Mini is a loveable car but in 41 years BMC, BL or Rover never bothered to upgrade it or correct the horrific faults it had.

@hunghuge7717

9 жыл бұрын

Richard Tattersall Why ahead of it's time? The engine was sideways but what did it do that was so great apart from taking up slightly less roadspace? I think the same of the smart. Yes it fits in a very small space but really what's the point? The road network is large enough to take any normal size car anyway so unless you have a very small garage why would you want less space?

@richardtattersall647

9 жыл бұрын

it was revolutionary in it's design more copact and a monoque shell never been done before remember car's before this had chassis's the mini didn't plus the engine and gearbox were matted on top of each other again never been done before the road handling was impressive too. this give the mini CHARACTER.

@hunghuge7717

9 жыл бұрын

Richard Tattersall I didn't mean that. I meant what was so revolutionary about what it could do? It had a lot of new designs but really what were it's advantages over other cars other than being able to fit in a smaller space which was irrelevant in almost any situation?

i got a seat marbella which is just the same as a fiat and i do believe the mini would win against one :D

Him saying if you crash your mini it's your own fault is lost when old, half blind mavis pulls out from a side street right in front of you

@closertofiftythanyew - multiplied by the number of Minis that crash and burn.

If it’s not dangerous,where’s the fun.

@Car_and_classic_lover

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly lol

yes the mini is a un safe car its a Classic car its was designed when their was NO safety regulations, and i understand why people went mad about its size i mean look at the crash where the car is well and truely nackered, its scary, i want to know what they thought to the later ones with safety features do they have the rest of the video, when i get my mini i will be moving the battery to under the rear seats so then their will be no electrical spark to set a fire off.

@MrClassicDoctorWho Have you ever tried to get out of the back of a Mini? Go to your front door, open the letterbox and crawl through that.

ive owned a classic mini 1981 for 6 years and come to the point ive got to sell :( hes going to his new home tomorrow so trying to watch bad videos about them to make it less upsetting when he gets taken away :(

What a load of crap. All classic cars are a risk. but you drive them differently to a modern. We all have to die at some point so just enjoy life while you have it. Nothing will put me off the joy my mini brings me.

@briansaiditsoitmustbetrue4206

7 жыл бұрын

You can drive your old classic car as safe as you like... WHAT ABOUT THE CLOWN IN THE OTHER CAR. Coming the other way

I don't want old mini anymore

@Doomsday2060 I have one -_-

crumple zone? you mean legs? I love minis classic minis that is it may be unsafe but the solution to this is not to crash.

the mini isnt unsafe, its just a car designed in the 1950s, you cant compare a car from then to now like these stupid program did

@jonnybottle

6 жыл бұрын

Wiki tells us that the first car to have crumple zones was the Mercedes W111 - launched in ...... 1959.

Why was the Mini called the car of the century?

@geofbrit59

10 жыл бұрын

"so called" car of the century. I would think because the influence it had on cars that came after. It was the first of millions of transverse front wheel drive cars. The only thing missing is the hatchback.

@uJelley

10 жыл бұрын

Well it was designed as a family car originally, small on the outside but enough room inside for 5 and the luggage! Then obviously it was the rally aspect, winning monte carlo, what's not great about a mini? Obviously they're not safe at all but what car was at this time? You really can't expect it to fair as well as a modern volvo...

@rovamota If I were to give you some kind of currency would you burn it to DVD for me?

This man may have a better idea of how to build a 3 meter long car and be safety? So funny...

is true that , and they even made a auto mini ,wota pain ,the yanks woudnt like these if they only made manuals

Haha true

I've been driving more than 30 years and I always said I don't want a Mini. Awful unsafe little things egh!!

Just dont fucking crash.

a failure? hardly.

*cough* Second place *cough* The Ford Model T was first.