Audi RS3 vs VW Golf R... vs Golf R with £1,200 tune - DRAG RACE, ROLLING RACE AND BRAKE TEST
How much extra performance can you get for £1,200? With the Mountune Volkswagen Golf R that's enough for an ECU remap and an induction kit which increase power by 60hp to 360hp. So is this enough to beat a standard Audi RS3, which has 400hp? To find out we decided to drag race them. And we shoved in a standard Golf R too so you can see the difference between tuned and stock. BTW the Mountune Golf R also had upgraded brakes so you can see the effect of those in the brake test too.
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Carwow finally heard us and wrote specs in text
@pa2219
4 жыл бұрын
I know right
@TheFlyingClutchman
4 жыл бұрын
They probably had already recorded and edited a ton of videos which would explain why it took so long to see the change
@himitsukeisatsu8247
4 жыл бұрын
Finally
@deividasradziunas7090
4 жыл бұрын
👍
@Shukz123
4 жыл бұрын
Those carwow investments must've made them happy 😂
The standard R did fairly well there, quite surprised.
@gwcrispi
4 жыл бұрын
I think this was the biggest takeaway that everyone is missing.
@groundkramer
4 жыл бұрын
wouldn't be surprised if these cars make closer to 320hp from the factory.
@killerkhalsa27
4 жыл бұрын
@@groundkramer the golf r's definitely do not make more than 300whp from factory. It's not underrated like the gti is but that's due to 4 motion awd compared to fwd which has less drive terrain loss. So the stock BHP numbers from the golf r are pretty much the whp figures and the gti reads about 5-15 hp higher depending on the type of dyno (mustang, dynapack, dynojet)
@groundkramer
4 жыл бұрын
killerkhalsa27 I’m talking crank number. WHP is about 270.
@groundkramer
4 жыл бұрын
killerkhalsa27 yeah fwd have less drivetrain loss then awd. My 08 gti put down 314whp on a dynojet stage 3 with meth. Hoping my R will put down similar numbers with a JB4 tune, TBE, CAI, Inlet pipe, BOV.
The tuned Golf R is faster because it's trying to run away from them wheels
@adammaysz9356
4 жыл бұрын
Hahaahhaah
@garethh81
4 жыл бұрын
Hehehe
@andreisirbu4450
4 жыл бұрын
Those are some nasty wheels indeed. And they also don't look very lightweight.
@pyotrtchaikovsky9097
4 жыл бұрын
Ugly set of of whee
@mayhemnmadness9266
4 жыл бұрын
The RS3 wheels are terrible
Not bad. 11.2 1/4 with our Golf R - lots of potential... video on our channel.
@jordanjackson9560
3 жыл бұрын
Fancy seeing you boys here
@Connor-lj5vd
3 жыл бұрын
How’s the RS3?
@TheG60528XiJinPing
3 жыл бұрын
@@Connor-lj5vd ^
@bananajoe123
3 жыл бұрын
@@Connor-lj5vd fast
@BigfootUnibrowMan
3 жыл бұрын
Heyy MCM repping the VAG!
Test the 2018 RS3 Vs the 2019 RS3 to see how much slower 2019 now is
@stevecvntniko8271
4 жыл бұрын
x2 👍
@gunterification
4 жыл бұрын
this I would like to see.
@Zeruel82Mk2
4 жыл бұрын
Audi would never let them do that. They would have to find a couple of customer cars.
@mikerelvas
4 жыл бұрын
Same could apply for any new car fitted with an OPF. It just kills their performance, unfortunately...
@JorgeCabrera-zh7yr
4 жыл бұрын
@@mikerelvas sorry but what is opf?
Why is the RS3 slower than before? It used to do 12.2 i every dragrace they used it in.. The sound is much quieter aswell. Smelling some EU regulations here.. ☹️
@DanielSadjadian
4 жыл бұрын
I guess the EU OPF ruined the sound (as well as adding more exhaust back pressure), and they probably detuned it a bit to meet with strict emissions regulations.
@blueeyeswhitedragon8352
4 жыл бұрын
Yep it’s just the filter on new model year.
@tom-fp2fv
4 жыл бұрын
MRC will take care of all them EU regulations for now then big Boris will take care of the rest of the Eu regulations we don’t want or need.
@franzmuller53
4 жыл бұрын
@@tom-fp2fv hahaha
@princemwamilee86
4 жыл бұрын
Jim Halvorsen it’s not the 2020 RS3 mate that’s the one we all waiting for
It looks like this 2019 rs3 is 0.5 sec slower than 2018 rs3
@andyhong8080
4 жыл бұрын
Stevco Cakar maybe something to do with OPF?
@KonstantinosKnd
4 жыл бұрын
andy hong yeah opf fucked it up
@j2dreamerforternity
4 жыл бұрын
because he dnt use lauch control
@keloduma
4 жыл бұрын
It's definitely the OPF
@mohdlootah5824
4 жыл бұрын
Its the new carwaw logic it has nothing to do with opf
Seriously. Thank you. I love the variety of vehicles you guys bring. And the modified aspect is pretty cool to!!!
Do a dragrace between a 2018 RS3 and the 2019 one so we can see the difference! 👍 EDIT: I bet Audi wouldn't like that though...
@GundogJake
4 жыл бұрын
Zeruel82Mk2 That would be a good comparison. The 367bhp is a great engine, though I’m more than with my 8p at 340hp..
@Johnypcd
4 жыл бұрын
@@GundogJake 367hp engine was in 2015-2016 RS3 ;) 2019 RS3 got DAZA engine I think? And than 2017-2018 got previous version of 2.5tfsi.
@keithalexander6881
4 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing that Audi reduced the RS3 launch due to similar new EU laws, the 2015 car launches at far higher revs and boost, that slingshot effect seems to be more sedate now.
@Zeruel82Mk2
4 жыл бұрын
The 2015-2016 RS3 has the older engine with 367 hp. The 2017-2018 RS3 has the new engine with 400 hp but without those nasty opf-filters, so they are the fastest. It would be interesting too see if this 2019 "400" hp RS3 can even beat one with 367 hp, I'm not so sure...
@kwl189
4 жыл бұрын
Misread the comment as do a disgrace between 2018 RS3 and 2019 RS3 😂
What are them rims on the golf r 💀
@jpb2541
4 жыл бұрын
The rims on the normal Golf R look good But the rims on the tuned Golf are nasty
@haidersohail1649
4 жыл бұрын
Those are the same Mountune MK7 Fiesta ST Wheels lol
@1stockpunto866
4 жыл бұрын
Classic rims I would say.
@ssilvaxxx22
4 жыл бұрын
wrong. normal R wheels look like shit.
@ImJoshehh
4 жыл бұрын
@@ssilvaxxx22 How can an opinion be wrong?
It would be interesting to see the 1/4 mile drag comparison of a stock 340ps, 367ps, 400ps and latest OPF 400 ps RS3
You listened!!!! Finally the specs on the screen Love it x
Van drag race: Alphard, LM, Vclass, and Caravelle
@Luca-hg7yp
4 жыл бұрын
That would be very nice😂👌
@rezaulkreza
4 жыл бұрын
Vs Previa
@achilleaustin
4 жыл бұрын
and the new v6 hiace lol
@sphiwemashaba2661
4 жыл бұрын
That would be great!
@chriscross9505
4 жыл бұрын
I've got an Alphard here in Indonesia. It's epic! Love it. Not sure about it in a drag race tho :) OK maybe for sh*ts and giggles haha.
I think the previous version of the Rs3 was faster
@DarylMT
4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 Pre EU stifled RS3 with 400HP and it's quicker to 60 than the 2019 model.
@richboy900
4 жыл бұрын
I heard that, but with the ttrs or whatever its called. Most likely to do with emission regulations
@Squeezemycrackers
4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 RS3 as well much faster then the 2019;s.
@DarylMT
4 жыл бұрын
@Laich F. You'd be funny if you were funny
@daxair644
4 жыл бұрын
Same as the S3’s... I have a 2018 but it’s faster than the 2019... basically 2016-2018 are the fastest of the each model year
Well... Put that 1200 tune on the RS3 and you will see some magic.
@Scouse.Malinois
3 жыл бұрын
But the rs3 is already 20k more, so its no different to me saying well spend the 20k modding the golf and you will see some magic
@stephenpeacock2627
3 жыл бұрын
@@Scouse.Malinois nope, golf is nothing special, has a boring 4 cylinder engine and can only be tuned to 400bhp, anything over that is asking for trouble. Rs3 can easily be tuned to 520 bhp, but can go to 1000bhp on stock block.
Before the race I was like, "who would pay £1200 for a tune just for another 60BHP". Then after the race it was totally worth it and I want it even more.
@divinehatred6021
Жыл бұрын
You are really weird.
0:04 i paused to look at those wheels on the R............... no...... just ....... no..... they dont suit the R
@J0riS
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah right they are ugly
@Keidoupe
4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely tasteless
@Odik1996
4 жыл бұрын
no they aren't ugly in my opinion
@zlatko680
4 жыл бұрын
Not soo bad hmm..
@zamuraiicobalt896
4 жыл бұрын
The RS3 ones are not quite amazing either, only good looking rims here are the ones of the standard Golf R. White car with silver rims is quite a terrible combo in general though
So RS3 vs S3 vs S3 Tuned? 😂😅
@PaulTC777
4 жыл бұрын
Mounteder Abdulrazag whale vs whale vs whale (they weight 1600kg... smh)
@claudiocr2060
4 жыл бұрын
It's actually R vs RsR vs R tuned , Audi is VW , not VW is Audi
@yammer5
4 жыл бұрын
Technically its a VW vs a VW vs a VW as VW owns Audi & Skoda & Seat & Bentely & Bugatti & Lamborghini & Porsche & Ducati.
@yammer5
4 жыл бұрын
@@claudiocr2060 Shhh dont tell him that, he wont seem quite as posh driving his Audi, i mean VW ;)
@MrTARIQSs
4 жыл бұрын
@@PaulTC777 they actually weight just below 1500kg idk where did you come up with the extra 100kg from
Next Drag Race: Skate Board vs Skating Shoes
Keep doing the double rolling races. I like seeing the transmission comparisons and the power comparisons
I’d still take the RS3 for that lovely Audi 5cyl 👌🏽
@patrikhala1910
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly, but now the 2019 model... maybe MY 2016?
@nicovanduin1553
4 жыл бұрын
VW 5cyl*
@Chris-yy7qc
4 жыл бұрын
Dont forget, you can give that RS3 a tune, too...
@romka_ind
4 жыл бұрын
It is VW engine :) from US Jetta :)
@Anthony71598
4 жыл бұрын
@@romka_ind the audi tfsi 5cyl is a completely different engine than the 07k in the 2005-2012 US Jettas with the inline 5
god im so happy that the mountune golf r managed to break through!
This is a great lineup. Thanks for the comparison 👏🏼
Love this new setup with the digital stats and speedometer readings well done car wow.
Spoiler: The german car won
@MaggotCZ
4 жыл бұрын
VW like VW
@sam52230
4 жыл бұрын
All of them are German 🙄
@sethubooysen6023
4 жыл бұрын
@@sam52230 yes that's what he means
@sam52230
4 жыл бұрын
Yea ik
@shetaiia2925
3 жыл бұрын
sPoiLeR: tHe gErMaN cAr wOn
2:41 7.3 mpg Lol 😂
@MisticDW
3 жыл бұрын
I've seen as low as 4 mpg in mine
@johnyt6309
3 жыл бұрын
@@MisticDW dawm dude 😂
Finally !! Thank You for writing specs👍
Love these drag races 👍😁👍
In the 'in gear' test it took you longer to say 'go' after the countdown and it seemed to me like the rs3 went a little earlier. Also would use the v box braking
@slamminx3
4 жыл бұрын
Yea I noticed that too
Thanks for finally showing the specs on screen 😊😍
Really would like to see more of this tuned vs stock videos
dude you are the bomb, best narrator ever.
The EU have really screwed the 2019 RS3
@eemeli6706
4 жыл бұрын
Eu screwed the amg a45s sound too if im correct correct me if im wrong
@mncedisiluhlanga2024
4 жыл бұрын
Its pathetic... these new Rs3s are so slow
@Andrew-bq8gn
4 жыл бұрын
If one were to buy such a machine, it would be wise to strip off all the eco shit to unleash it
@robbiemarshall1481
4 жыл бұрын
Just buy the 2017 model! Sorted
@Andrew-bq8gn
4 жыл бұрын
@@robbiemarshall1481 And a cheeky tune
I think it would be super interesting to compare older performance cars like for example a Mercedes C55 AMG vs a modern sports car like a Golf GTI or Golf R and see how fast cars have actually become in the past 15 years. That would be super awesome!
Buenísimos videos, un saludo desde Guatemala 👊🏻
perfect dragrace, thanks!!!
im stage 1 apr with a vwr intake and 2 michelin pilot sport 4ssss and i love it!!
@doueven
3 жыл бұрын
3 or 5 door?
Subtitles: "Hi Matt here, I've got another drug race for you" Keeping it real 😂
@Dan23_7
4 жыл бұрын
Jake Stead Dealers car drag race you mean 😜
@king-manu2758
4 жыл бұрын
The subtitles really don't recognize British English well, ironically enough considering it's the original English.
Brilliant carwow and mat. Let's see a Christmas outtakes special that would be brilliant 😂 and maybe a vrs 400 bhp golf r audi rs3 let's then see what happens lol
Finally on screen specs!!!! Way to go guys!!
2019 rs3 is a hot mess. Almost 13 seconds to the 1/4 mile?? 2018’s did it in 12.2!
@joyousjoyous2136
4 жыл бұрын
The ttrs prefacelift 2017 does 1/4 mile 11.7sec the new facelifted version 2019 does it in 12.1 lol this is quite a downgrade and the sound is numb shiiiet regulations!
@Savvyer2
4 жыл бұрын
It's not Audis fault, it's EU-bullshit. They just hate people having fun 😒
@niklask1651
4 жыл бұрын
@@Savvyer2 yes.. opf Filter fucks it up
@bokiNYC
4 жыл бұрын
A noob question...can that opf be removed (easily)?
@niklask1651
4 жыл бұрын
@@bokiNYC well.. its different and depends on the Brand.. if the Software detects it then not easily
4:40 nice Joker laugh :D
theee vids get better and better
I recall an RS3 doing 12.2 when it versed the RS4, either way great vid and awesome cars
2:54 nice save bro 😂
Add a tune to the RS3 and you are looking at 500hp😎 plus that lovely 5 cylinder sound😍
@dallasmellsop5488
4 жыл бұрын
And 13k higher price
@villkar1373
4 жыл бұрын
@@dallasmellsop5488 Can get it way cheaper than that
@dallasmellsop5488
4 жыл бұрын
@@villkar1373 same as the golf
@villkar1373
4 жыл бұрын
@@dallasmellsop5488 Yeah, 1,2k not 13k...
@kerstas10
4 жыл бұрын
change turbocharger, exhaust, and a tune. and you have a golf R, that is capable to race a Lambo Hurracan. Can your audi do that? Check MCM videos with the golf.
came from watching the drag race between amg45s m2 golf r and rs3, and thought "hum wonder what a tuned golf r would be like in this competition", searched for it and bam, carwow first result, f-ing love carwow's channel
The APR stage 1 ecu & tcu tune is similar but extra bhp. Insane mod and well worth the money! Transforms the Golf R immensely!
Golf R my choice.. Excellent video 👌👍👍👍
Is the 2019 rs3 only slower in Europe or is it also slower in the United States?
@danieljadorie829
4 жыл бұрын
I believe the OPF in the exhaust is only for the Euro market.
Now that floating text is being added to these videos I can subscribe again.
Howdy, awesome race as always!😸😸
i'll take a tuned RS3 instead 😆
@henrytheotama107
4 жыл бұрын
Me too. It looks a lot nicer and sounds nicer
@voiha
4 жыл бұрын
English ?
@henrytheotama107
4 жыл бұрын
@@voiha What do you mean?
@AlzhinSon
4 жыл бұрын
@@henrytheotama107 He means '' i'll taked '' is grammatically wrong
@henrytheotama107
4 жыл бұрын
@@AlzhinSon I thought he's replying to me lol
2019 RS3 vs A45s next?
@slooriginal1727
4 жыл бұрын
A45s won
Can you do some comparisons with the seat Leon st Cupra 4drive ? Would be great !
Matt and Carwow team... please can you add a table summarising power and torque stats for cars in drag races... gets all too much when there are a few cars to consider! Thankyou
4:04 ..."throhhle" .....that British accent tho
@mncedisiluhlanga2024
4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@iain8837
4 жыл бұрын
British? You’ve not traveled here have you!
@FLAMEalan
4 жыл бұрын
Lmao technically that’s like the base accent so you would have an accent not us ahah
@03056932
4 жыл бұрын
glottal stop
@paulwhite8024
4 жыл бұрын
You mean like Yanks say a’ight instead of alright.
Laugh at the end sounded abit like the joker😂
@jays9213
4 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha
We’ve all been waiting for
What use done at 3.25 well done guys. This is alone should be worth a subscription. This is what I wanted. Boy better know if I’m in 6th in 50 and somebody challenges me to a race would rather drop it into 3rd/4th and plant foot. Well done carwow.
There's 170ms ear to hand average reaction time - just saying
Dat I5 sound tho. ❤️
I really didn't expecting that
A high speed camera would be great for the finish line photos and maybe slow mo as well
I really don't like audi's launch after the EU regulations.
Hey Mr CarWow. Frederick all the way from South Africa
I was always saying that you should put a floating bar showing hp and torque,I feel happy u did it and I hope I was a part of it
I love this type of video. In Australia, the price difference between R and RS3 is about AUD40K. So it's more tempting to tune the R than spending another 40K.
Audi ruined the tt rs and rs3 after the opf filters ....
@jimah93
4 жыл бұрын
Konstantinos No doubt...
@dogchainsaw3923
4 жыл бұрын
Konstantinos it wasn’t audi you fucking moron. They had no choice to put on that opf filter on.
@kjusn
4 жыл бұрын
people, who drive Rav4 hybrids ruined*
@mazzoni23
4 жыл бұрын
EU ruined it, Audi had no choice
@KonstantinosKnd
4 жыл бұрын
Yashar Jesus Christ I know it’s not their fault it’s a new eu law
How long are we gonna have to wait for your Mazda CX-30 with the Skyactive-X motor, review?
Thank You for writing the awesome Cars Specifications in Big Bold Text👍🙏♥️
On this video at 1:23 just before the race starts it'd be great to see a summary table comparing the bhp, torque, price, claimed 0-60 etc on future videos, save trying to remember what each one is. Alternatively at the end of the race for people that are interested. Especially if they're looking to buy one of the cars 🤓😜 this would have been ideal on the hot hatch showdown with 5 or 6 cars to compare 😂
And I'd still rather have the Audi RS3 for the sound alone.
@danielbraun3158
4 жыл бұрын
Same here, but the pre-facelifted one. The new OPF-models just sound like goddamn vacuum-cleaner, the RS3 is no exception. There are tons of cars coming with that bullshit now which is pretty unfortunate.
@Haykosify
4 жыл бұрын
Daniel Braun you can still get facelifted it just has to be before 2019
@stijnhs
4 жыл бұрын
For the extra 10k I think you'll be able to get a pretty decent 3rd party exhaust fitted on the golf
@itIsI988
4 жыл бұрын
@@stijnhs Still a 4 cylinder though... Bring back the 3.2l VR6!
@sirskorge
4 жыл бұрын
And the golf looks like something your granny would drive. It's soooo ugly! :(
Couldn't click fast enough 😍
finally text on the screen! thank you matt
Świetny program 👍
Hey carwow, we want a drag and a rolling race between Matt and Yanni (running) at 3 million subs.😆😂
@Zeruel82Mk2
4 жыл бұрын
I bet the one with the superior power-to-weight ratio would win...
@nishitsinghbirman1923
4 жыл бұрын
@@Zeruel82Mk2 yup... and don't forget the aerodynamics
@nishitsinghbirman1923
4 жыл бұрын
Who do you think has a better exhaust note😝😂
@Zeruel82Mk2
4 жыл бұрын
@@nishitsinghbirman1923 😅
Loves golfs always been one of my favourites
If Matt's not the next Alan partridge then I'll be upset. Especially with those outtakes at the end 😂😂😂
It wound be nice if you did a drag race with the same car but different tyre types to show how much of a difference they make (if any).
Well that volgswagen 😬😬🔥
*NEXT: Mercedes Benz E 43 vs Mercedes Benz E 450*
@mick2181
3 жыл бұрын
Shittttt ....mercedes !
The notification bell doesn't exist anymore Matt. Am I off beam on that?
That tune-up is pretty good...!!! 😀🔝👍
4:41 matt sounds like joquin's laugh in joker lol
@dlaciko13
4 жыл бұрын
I thought the same!:DDDD
I still want that rs3 👌❤
Nice, next: tuned rs3 vs tuned golf r
Fit some little gps timers in them so you can time how long it takes them to do 0-100 at the same time you do the drag races. IF you have it with the quarter mile setting as well you'll be able to see if it was just a driver sleeping or maybe jumping the starts. The same applies to the braking.
even though the Audi costs the most, i would take it. all day every day.
Did he say, "outbroke?" 😲
what wheels on the Golf R upgrade look good and easy clean
Super vid!! Btw, 'Outbraked' isn't it, not 'outbroke'? After all, you'd say "I braked to a stop", not "I broke to a stop" Lol :-D
5 cyls ftw 👌🏻
The tuned golf haves aftermarket wheels? If forged it dramatically changes things on power side
@Connor-pb5lo
4 жыл бұрын
zanttu23 from the shape of those I highly doubt they’re forged
@zanttu23
4 жыл бұрын
@@Connor-pb5lo even without they can be much lighter, in un-sprung mass it makes all the diffrence
@joaquinpaul3912
4 жыл бұрын
The brand is called fifteen52. They make cast and forged wheels. I'm not sure if these are forged though. But apparently they're good enough for Ken Block so....
@ABeans07
4 жыл бұрын
Huh? How the wheels are made makes no difference. Its the weight.
@Connor-pb5lo
4 жыл бұрын
zanttu23 yeah obviously but i really doubt they’re forged, probably lighter though
Just got a Golf R 7.5 in October straight away I was very underwelmed by the performance my las car was a BMW 330D with a stage 1 tune, within a week I had the Mountune stage 1 software and the gearbox tune along with airbox and turbo hose, what a difference you can really feel the torque and the power is usable in all weathers my friend has a standard M4 and its every bit as quick when its dry, In the wet the plucky little Golf leaves the M4. This for me is a great car with the mountune upgrade, I have been a BMW fanboy for years but I love the Golf also looked at the S3 but it in my opinion isnt as nice a car the interior maybe slightly better quality wise but I prefer the "sleeper" look of the Golf R such a great car.
I don't even have a bicycle.. But I don't know y I'm watching all of your videos. Car Wow.. 👍👍👍
Love the RS3 but £46k! Bit heavy for what’s effectively an A3 on steroids
2:40 avg 7.3 mpg. Thats a thirsty 4 pot :o
What paddle shifters extension were on the Golf R?
1:37 Akrapovic exhaust! Niceeeeee