damn i can't believe that you actually caught that it was grisha seeing through erens memories. Amazing

@dlg-flash7337

2 жыл бұрын

Yea, Grisha was seeing everything from Erens POV

@unknownstormtrooper5735

2 жыл бұрын

FACTS! Very few reactions are catching that small detail. But then again, this episode was loaded!

@weare7742

2 жыл бұрын

Wait i dont understand, what does that mean? Grisha seeing through erens? Explain me pls *no spoilet ofcors

@dlg-flash7337

2 жыл бұрын

@@weare7742 When Grisha said the Attack Titan is able to see the Memories of its Future Inheritors. When Grisha saw Zeke and Eren he didn’t actually see them, he was basically looking at nothing Cuz he was looking through Erens Memories and from his POV Cuz that’s how it works when you see Future memories

@sugoonese4024

2 жыл бұрын

@@weare7742 Grisha didnt see zeke through his own eyes in his own study room, he was seeing zeke through erens eyes which was a future memory sent back to him

It's been a few hours and we're still stunned. Definitely a top Attack on Titan episode. It all came together so perfect! Grisha's entire story is sooo tragic.

@JC_Stone

2 жыл бұрын

You know a series is amazing when you say one of its episodes is “A top episode” and not “THE top episode.” Implying that there are multiple valid candidates.

@al_alemania

2 жыл бұрын

Facts!

@yamikagevg7841

2 жыл бұрын

Here is a helful copypasta that I found in youtube comments (spoilers free) So in order to avoid any confusion regarding the time travel mechanics, I will break down what type of Time travel we're dealing with here. AOT operates by a particular type of time travel where it's almost impossible to change the past even if you somehow go back in time. And any change that you tried to cause was always meant to happen in the overall timeline. Here time is a fixed circle, not a stream. We may see Eren meddle in the past but that was always meant to happen. The Attack Titan's ability is to receive the memories of its future inheritors. This was hinted when Kruger mentioned Mikasa and Armin towards the end of S3. Keep in mind, they can only view these memories but can't interact with them. So how was Eren able to meddle in the past? Well, he had 3 perfect conditions: 1. He had the ability of the Attack Titan 2. The ability of the Founding Titan 3. He was also in contact with someone with royal blood AKA Zeke. After Zeke tapped Eren's head, they were able to view Grisha's past memories with Eren using the power of the coordinate. They were freely able to view the past as if it were through a one way mirror. Now if Eren had any other Titan other than the Attack Titan, he would only be able to look. But since Attack Titan can see forward in time, Grisha can use this to see Eren's recollection of the same event that he's currently experiencing in real time. So this mean that whenever Grisha can see or hear Eren, he's actually recieving a brief future memory from Eren's POV where he can see out of his eyes and hear his words. That means he is seeing himself from a 3rd perspective. Then if he responds, his response is simply part of the memory that Eren/Zeke are viewing, allowing for a two way communication through time. Also Note that everytime, Grisha sees Zeke, Eren is always standing behind his dad. So whenever Grisha sees Zeke, it is actually due to the memories from Eren's POV Another thing to add: Eren did NOT see everything in the future. Eren only saw CRUCIAL moments in the future, for example, he saw Pieck pointing a gun at him when he kissed Historia's hand 4 years ago, this is why he was so calm when she threatened to shoot him, because Eren KNEW she wouldn't shoot him. However, Eren DIDN'T know that Porco was going to try to eat him just a couple of minutes later. Even Eren doesn't know EVERYTHING that will happen. Also, this isn't my comment, I did not make this, ALL CREDIT GOES TO u/ Skyclad_Observer

@twenty7395

2 жыл бұрын

Shit man grisha VA deserve more appreciation

@kintokisa

2 жыл бұрын

@@yamikagevg7841 I know you're not the original poster. But. Rather than meddling with the past, it really just what it is. When Eren kissed Historia's hand, he knew what would happen in the future. He saw his dad, his future self, and old Zeke. But that teen Eren didn't know how he will get there, he just knew he would. This can explain how he is so confident in fighting Marley when they came in with zeppelins, despite Yelena giving sound advice to lay low and escape. This also explain how his face changed when he noticed that this bearded Zeke seems to be felt/noticed by past Grisha. He understood then "Ah this is it, this is how it happened, how my near future self will tell Grisha what to do." That's why he keep saying "Next." Next and next 😂

It hurts me. Zeke got the closure he deserved from his father who he hated. He got to see that Grisha hate what he put him through. Something that in the real world you can get. Once that person dies, that’s it. It’s emotional to see that Grisha and Zeke have that moment.

@lucianoferreyra9388

2 жыл бұрын

me dio la sensacion de que el mismo eren hizo a proposito que se vieran ,no se porque pero se notaba porque tomo varias veces ese angulo

I'm mindblown how you got that grisha's was seeing it trough eren's eyes, it was so subtle that 99% of who watched it didn't get it, even for manga readers there was a guide that was made to explain what were these future memories.

@davidhorvat5692

2 жыл бұрын

Where can i see that guide?

@bellascythe9594

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidhorvat5692 like an explanation like box of information you can see in the anime too

@PortgasDAce-wt2qu

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, that's why the glasses of Grisha were reflecting light in Ep1 of season 1. They literally didn't show us where he was looking

@serenityml1810

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah also they noticed the color changed in Frieda eyes, she was feeling bad for Grisha at first from the face she made after hearing his stories but she changed completely after that due to the vow that was made.

The way y'all catch that Grisha could see Zeke, is because Grisha is seeing Eren's POV. WOW. AMAZING REACTION

@akabraille

2 жыл бұрын

I LOVED that they got this on the FIRST viewing!

Moostash’s expressions throughout the entire reaction are priceless 😆. He’s doing a great job of not spoiling and being as neutral as possible. #likeaboss

@bobbylight6739

2 жыл бұрын

You can tell he’s a manga reader even if you’ve never watched them before 😂

Thank you for shutting up (and I mean this in the nicest way) and absorbing impactful scenes instead of just talking/yelling/ranting over them like a lot of "fast food" reaction channels on this website. A lot of times with Attack on Titan there are very emotionally impactful scenes that only strike a chord if you don't interrupt it by chatting with others (or just talking over everything if you're a solo reactor). Things like music cues and voice acting performances get drowned out by just the non stop talking I see so often when that kinda stuff could easily just be said in the discussion after. You've kept a nice balance ever since your season 3 reactions and that's why I subscribed back then, glad to see it still happening even now.

@Proximity94

2 жыл бұрын

agreed

@martin5963

2 жыл бұрын

This!!!

@ognjenstokic8819

2 жыл бұрын

expected comment from a filmbuff mod , you already know.

@bokis27

2 жыл бұрын

who are those fast food aot reactors?

@Sephizen

2 жыл бұрын

@@bokis27 I kept it vague on purpose so people could fill in the blank themselves with who they think those are without personally calling people out. I'll be more specific and give an example of one of the categories I'm talking about though. If you search "attack on titan reaction" on KZread and sort the results by upload date, any reaction that gets uploaded within ~6-7 hours of the Japanese airing is usually horrible (those uploaded before around 5 pm EST). Little to no discussion, reacting to really bad subs which completely destroys interpretation of scenes or getting full impact out of them, get-it-out-instantly-for-views content with little knowledge about the details of the plot and character dynamics. They're the ones that make it into the first set of react compilations (because those uploaders start gathering content to make a video asap and those are the only reactions available for them to pick from). You kinda just watch them to tide you over until the good ones come out later in the evening/tomorrow and for immediate reactions to big moments. I also have specific KZread channels (with 5k, 10k, 20k or even in the 100k+) in my head that I'd classify as "fast food"/low quality regardless of if they upload later with good subs/short discussions but I don't wanna name names and just wanted to make it about the point I'm trying to make.

Grisha's voice actor nailed it 🔥

@IntoTheVoidAnime

2 жыл бұрын

Dude amazing performance

@al_alemania

2 жыл бұрын

@@IntoTheVoidAnime his performance got me in my feelings 😂

Eren whispered in Isayama's ear and told him to write this story On a serious note, it's really scary how Grisha, someone who was so anti-Marley and pro-Eldia, saw one glimpse of Eren's plan and was like, "Zeke. You have to stop him." Despite Grisha's hate for Marley and how far he was willing to go, even HE thought his plan was too far. He was genuinely horrified. Whatever Eren's plan is, Grisha does not want it to happen. Speaking of, Zeke and Grisha finally getting to work out their issues and hug each other in a moment of pure love is really heartwarming. Grisha understood his mistakes when raising Zeke before. Instead of only treating him as a tool, he treats him as his son. Zeke is finally able to take his first step towards closure after years of trauma. Even if they had their differences, Grisha and Zeke can at least agree with one thing: Stopping Eren..

@fckyo7789

2 жыл бұрын

I see you in every reactor I watched

@anahi977

2 жыл бұрын

@@fckyo7789 yes copy paste, it's funny how he dares

For extra information, Eren didn't see ALL future memories, just the ones he sent to Grisha.

not an original comment * So in order to avoid any confusion regarding the time travel mechanics, I will break down what type of Time travel we're dealing with here. AOT operates by a particular type of time travel where it's almost impossible to change the past even if you somehow go back in time. And any change that you tried to cause was always meant to happen in the overall timeline. Here time is a fixed circle, not a stream. We may see Eren meddle in the past but that was always meant to happen. This calls into the question of the existence of free will in the world of Attack of Titan. The Attack Titan's ability is to receive the memories of its future inheritors. This was hinted when Kruger mentioned Mikasa and Armin towards the end of S3. Keep in mind, they can only view these memories but can't interact with them. So how was Eren able to meddle in the past? Well, he had 3 perfect conditions: 1. ⁠He had the ability of the Attack Titan 2. ⁠The ability of the Founding Titan 3. ⁠He was also in contact with someone with royal blood AKA Zeke. After Zeke tapped Eren's head, they were able to view Grisha's past memories with Eren using the power of the coordinate. They were freely able to view the past as if it were through a one way mirror. Now if Eren had any other Titan other than the Attack Titan, he would only be able to look. But since Attack Titan can see forward in time, Grisha can use this to see Eren's recollection of the same event that he's currently experiencing in real time. So this mean that whenever Grisha can see or hear Eren, he's actually recieving a brief future memory from Eren's POV where he can see out of his eyes and hear his words. That means he is seeing himself from a 3rd perspective. Then if he responds, his response is simply part of the memory that Eren/Zeke are viewing, allowing for a two way communication through time. Also Note that everytime, Grisha sees Zeke, Eren is always standing behind his dad. So whenever Grisha sees Zeke, it is from actually due to the memories from Eren's POV

@jogo798

2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant

@Gutssssss666

2 жыл бұрын

Oh my fucking god that’s such a mindfuck

@itsmesteve1081

2 жыл бұрын

Kind of correct. There is no timeline. Think of this whole show like a 4th dimension written by the author. Everything that we, the audience, perceive as past present and future had already happened (because that's how the the author intended it to be. The author is only showing us what he wants to show us just like eren is only showing his dad what he wants to show him) the author picks this specific time in a timeless space of attack on titan to tell us a story. We just need to keep seeing it through now to know why he kept showing us only glimpses of what is going on.

Crazy, the Founder is bound by its past; the Attack is bound by its future, such a cool concept!

@sedlyholmes3722

2 жыл бұрын

I believe ymir made the attack titan in order to free her but it took wayyy to long, but eren finally arrives

@virginiaandrade8009

2 жыл бұрын

Woah that IS a really cool concept..

@iamdarkphantom

2 жыл бұрын

@@sedlyholmes3722 and eren is probably was last inheritor of the attack titan so he was the one who sent memories to all the previous inheritors. like when he was saying tatakae in the mirror, he was actually planning this so that he can send these memories into the past and the past inheritors can see his face and eyes idk man my brain just died

When you realize that Eren spared Rod Reiss, so that Historia could grow up to defeat him later on and become Queen, so that he could kiss her hand and then inherit the future memories (the scene from the end of Season 3 which is also shown in this episode). I'm hurting my brain now.

some hints that Attack Titan can see the future: 1)During the Great Titan War only the founding titan & Attack titan managed to escaped. 2)After Sasha died Eren asked what her last words were to confirm if his future memories r true

@makkunn5929

2 жыл бұрын

BRUH is number 2 true?? , if so that's mindblowing

@cobalt7678

2 жыл бұрын

@@makkunn5929 Yeah. He smiled there because he had seen Sasha die already in the future memories and understood that he can't change the future. Though he doesn't know all the future. He is still surprised by some events like Gabi blowing his head off and Zeke tricking him in Paths. He saw bits and pieces of the future.

@pieckfinger639

2 жыл бұрын

@@cobalt7678 it is not even confirmed he also cry like that when Hannes died it has a more obvious evidence The owl just said Mikasa and Armin name

@abhabh6896

Жыл бұрын

"The stride for freedom" isnt the ability of the attack titan, thats Eren brainwashing all attack titan holders in history (remember the scene at the mirror when he looks at himself and says "fight", he was broadcasting himself to the previous holders).

I had the same exact reaction as the dude in the middle. I read the manga before this came out and i was trying so hard to hold in the tears but I just couldn't, the episode was way too good they executed this episode perfectly. The voice actor for grisha was what really got me going, it was an amazing performance

When Zeke finally tears up and calls Grisha "otousan" (dad or daddy) I straight up ugly cried. Ever since turning in his parents, up to this moment he's been referring to Grisha as "Chichioya" (father) which is so much more cold and formal - "that father," as he put it, like he was referring to someone elses father.

@asad9934

2 жыл бұрын

tao san? wtf? haha

@itsmesteve1081

2 жыл бұрын

Kinda sad how most people I seen react to this episode didn't even point this fact out. Kinda sad cause of how it might have flown over their head

@biggreenblob

2 жыл бұрын

@@asad9934 simple typo, didn't mean for an "a" to be in there lol

@asad9934

2 жыл бұрын

@@itsmesteve1081 well you knew some kind of knowledge about japanese and honorifics to at least appreciate that. And I've seen reactors watch subs that use "father" instead of "dad" so they can't appreciate it even more.

@iamart8751

6 ай бұрын

I know I'm late. But it's 'otousan'

I read the manga, but one comment I read on reddit for this episode made me realise something... Eren is the son Grisha wanted back in Marley Zeke is the son Grisha wanted on Paradis

I also had tears on my eyes when I saw that scene at 11:32 where Grisha was just crying in despair at what he just did. You can feel the anguish on his voice. Grisha's VA was godly here

@abhabh6896

Жыл бұрын

and the music

Void, that right there - Memories of the Future - the highest form of entertainment and one of the greatest twists in any fictional story EVER. More to come your way!

Damn. I’ve always hated Zeke but between this and his origin episode last season, it’s amazing how great of a writer Isayama is that he’d make a villainous character somebody you can empathize with. Also making your main character the “big bad”? What an amazing twist.

Damn y'all looking good!!! And when it's an early upload, u know sh*t got real!!!

Eren: “I am the captain now.” Zeke: 😮 Grisha: 😭 Isayama: 🤯

@Maybehaha755

Жыл бұрын

*writer

@Ren_Davis0531

Жыл бұрын

@@Maybehaha755 r/woosh

That is not time travel my guy. Zeke just showing his father's memory

Phenomenal storytelling. Isayama is a genius. Mappa adapted it so well and the OST's and especially voice acting was out of this world.

S3E11 Grisha: "This boy isn't like you. He's my son. He's a crazy psycho who forced me to kill children, controls all fate and wants to destroy the world. Now I just want to die and get it over with, and forget I created this monster. Please, do not interfere." Keith: "Wait, what?"

I love how it's written in a way where after you finish the complete story, you can go back from episode 1 and experience it in a WHOLE DIFFERENT WAY

So the interesting thing is that Grisha HATES Marley. He hates Marley with every fiber of his being. So imagine the horror of what Grisha saw when even he turns to Zeke and says Marley doesn't deserve what Eren is going to do to them

@itsmesteve1081

2 жыл бұрын

Hey borderline spoiler

@toxicvoid0663

2 жыл бұрын

nah he might still hate marley.. he could be saying that..because of the world ...not just marley

It's very satisfying to see that you know what's happening. The feeling of not just hype and confusion mixed up liked other reactors. Understanding the actual things on this ep is next level mind-blowing. It tights up most of the things and open up new possibilities

When the episode is so mind-blowing that the channel uploaded it early XD full of excitement for the next episode

Only aot can give us a chapters like this without action and fights, just dialogues👏👏 that grisha / zeke scene oooff

@vicc6790

2 жыл бұрын

aot is good but that statement is 100% cap stop overhyping things out of proportion please

@kaigunz2251

2 жыл бұрын

Biggest lie ever told. Read/watch things other than modern shonen and you'll see how wrong your statement is.

@sidhanttiwari942

2 жыл бұрын

@@kaigunz2251 Stop the 🧢 and drop some recommendations if you think any other show is better than AOT regarding such episodes

Eren whispered to Grisha: "Fuck them kids!"

I have waited so long for this to be adapted. One of my favorite chapters from the series~!!

Some key facts from the episode Baby boy Eren caught glimpse of both Zeke & Older Eren while they were in the doorway Kruger mentioned Mikasa & Armin in the season 3 episode 21 because he was able to peer into the memories of Eren, who is the future inheritor of the Attack titan(being able to see the future basically) If you go back to chapter 1 of the manga or even the first episode of the anime you can see that Grisha is not facing young Eren when he says he'll show him the basement but is actually saying that while facing in the direction of older Future Eren

It’s weird to think of Eren as a total psychopath considering he allowed Zeke to have closure with his father

Moosta seems so happy and keep nodding his head all the time

loved how much the middle guy felt the episode.. the voice acting was so good, i tear up every time as well

12:27 look and pause at this shot. This is literally what Grisha is seeng as Eren. This is EREN's POV while Grisha is watching.

14:20 yep dude know his shit

man i was blown away by simple detail that you said "we never seen future memory after eren" the fact that only attack titan can se the future. that clearly a hint by isayama that eren would be the last attack and what finish it all... props to you

That thumbnail is gold.

Eren doesn't know every detail, but Eren knows certain events will take place so he knows whatever he does he is going to arrive to that point, he didn't know Sasha would die, that's why he laughed maniacally in the airship when he knew that Sasha died, he didn't know either that his head would be blown off, regardless he knows that he is getting to a certain point, the world of AoT is deterministic, there is a single timeline, no diversions.

What a fantastic episode an seeing how you guys catch on a lot of things, especially with Grisha seeing from Eren pov..was great! I don't think he knows everything that's going to happen, just certain events and that it leads to something and he just keeps going forward.

He didn't know that Sasha would die btw. He had no idea. He only saw Grisha's memories when he kissed Historia's hand so he did see everything that happened in the Reiss cave through Grisha's eyes, including the future Eren's memories that Grisha was seeing

14:11 even most manga readers didn't figure this out.

14:16 I'm glad Joey caught that. 21:02 That's a great point too. I never thought about it.

In my eyes I feel Eren does want his friends against him for maybe 2 reasons either he wants his inevitable death to be easier for them because he's dying one way or another and other is if his friends his own people takes down Eren as he's destroying the world they could be seen as the hero's of the world and gain status like willy how despite him being eldian he was universally loved by the world

dude mustache smirking had me laughing lmao he knows the PAIN

The adaptation of these last couple of episodes has been outstanding. There are so many added details and subtleties that really takes the story to another level. When I read Grisha's remorse and begged for forgiveness to Zeke in the manga I was like "yeah, sad" but here man... the music, the voice acting, the animation, it really made me feel for them. Amazing job, can't wait for the next 2 episodes to air because they're gonna be insane

@OmegaDenz96

2 жыл бұрын

And with this, the anime might go with how the manga ended but will weave it more thoroughly. Cuz i believe the manga ended in that way because of pressure to Isayama's side. All authors have that kind of pressure when you're ending the story you've written.

@Leythia

2 жыл бұрын

Next episode will definitely give us the second time that three 10/10 episodes happened back to back. I am so impressed and satisfied with Mappa on S4 P2

@Leythia

2 жыл бұрын

@@OmegaDenz96 I still believe in AoE, there is just too much hints and evidence that supports the timeline theory than there is against it. But of course, if one doesn't believe it, that's fine. Let's just wait and see.

Erin whispering into Isayama's ear and telling him to write this story

the set up looks really clean tho🔥

That's why eren was so shaken when Sasha got shot. It was basically confirming Gabbi was on the airship going to the walls to eventually shoot erens head off. And he knew the whole time.

@bryanmiranda1745

2 жыл бұрын

No, that's a big misunderstanding of the way it plays out, Eren only saw what was fed to his father, the attack titans "future vision" isn't total view of the future, Eren himself handpicks what memories he sends, thus why he hid what happened to his mother from his father

Eren starts getting glimpses of the future since episode 1, he realizes when he touch Frida's pure titan but start pay attention to the future memories when he kiss Historia, i guess.

Yall noticed here eyes went from bluish grey to deep purple signifying the vow controlingher

18:42 I have to dissagree, Eren seemed really surprised when he heard Sasha was shot, which means he did not know it would happen, and he laughed after that as if fate was kidding with him. You guys are misunderstanding some fundamental informations about the Attack titan's ability that could make the story seem to contain plot holes. The attack titan's ability is seeing the future, but not in the way you guys assumed. It's the ability to feed memories back to the previous/past inheritor (which is what path Eren is doing right now, because Eren is also in the Coordinate that could transcend time and space at the moment, you can actually say the Attack titan has this ability is because Eren triggers it), that's why Grisha was asking Eren why he did not show him everything. Eren saw the future, but not all, only the memories that was fed to his father by his future-self. Eren is the mastermind behind everything.

Grisha when he wants to manipulate his first son into killing: 😊 Grisha when his second son manipulates him into killing: 😱

Great reaction! Love Moostash’s メガ64(mega 64) cap lol

"Grisha is the most depressing character" You'll know soon

uno de los mejores episodios de la historia ,como fue avanzando hasta llegar al final y revelar eso uff ,el mismo eren parece que queria que grisha viera a zeke y hablaran porque se nota que lo hacia aproposito ,eren el mejor personaje de la historia

Y'all HAVE to do a long discussion on this!

this is the only episode where I recommend you to watch the easter eggs so you could understand it more.

Im cry too . Im happy to see another cry . I think i the only one crying

Thank God for the S tier music Aot have. Straight up overkill

It makes sense now. Eren Kruger saw memories of future grisha telling Eren "if you want to save mikasa, armin and everybody else". Quite ironically he was telling grisha his own memories.

I cried on this episode Grisha's VA is sooo good. Anyways the next episodes gets better that it makes you wanna enter asylum

Eren is telling Isayama, what to write. HE'S THE MANGAKA!

Classic example of nature - eren vs nurture -zeke

From people getting hyped as eren tricked seek last episode To one episode later grisha telling seek to stop eren

Not sure if this is mentioned in the comments already but Eren already knew the future when he kissed Historia’s hand back in season 2. So everything that has happened after that point, he’s already known it’s going happen ie: Sasha’s death. :(

This episode is on the same plain as Hero from season 3

Eren is the mastermind even from the start LMAO

The 145th king of Eldia Karl Fritz saw the horrors of the great titan war, I.e pure titans consuming 1000’s of innocent Marleyans and other eldians and the callous nature of his fellow eldians to be okay with the barbarism, and thought this vile behavior must end. He worked with the Tyburs to subvert the other titan wielders and simultaneously set up the walls on paradise island. He believed that having committed such atrocities and with the ability to turn into mindless monster that consume everything endlessly, all eldians must be contained, he made a vow to renounce all war and sealed it with the founding titan as there’s no guarantee that another king with omnipotent power wouldn’t use pure titans to terrorize the world again. I’m fact his vow was so certain that he was willing to let all eldians die before they could ever potentially take another non-eldian life. The vow also restricted future wielders ability to use the full power of the founding titan. The only difference between the king and Zeke is that euthanasia would stop eldians existence within a generation while the king was happy to wait until the world decided to eradicate them. It’s not that the king blames the current eldians for the crimes of the past it’s simple that if the current eldians knew what they were and their capabilities there is no guarantee that power wouldn’t go to their heads and they begin the cycle all over again, so it’s better if they just die. The attack titan can it future wielders memories and only the memories the future wielders allow to be seen. The Attack Titan essentially is fighting against the king saying give us the freedom to make that choice. The only issue is now you have Erebus who so radically desires freedom that he’ll destroy the world for it, even Grisha thinks that’s going too far.

I think that Eren is no longer beheaded. Zeke said that the founder rebuilt Eren’s body from the ground.

Damnnnn joey Looking fresh

Before you guys watch the next episode I really suggest watching the season 2 ending . It will further blow your mind how far ahead this part of the story was planned.

@TequilaToothpick

2 жыл бұрын

I think they should watch the Season 2 ending after the next episode.

@ognjenstokic8819

2 жыл бұрын

@@TequilaToothpick or that.. you may be right . it all depends on if they watched the preview for next episode and paid attention throughout the whole series..

The episode wasn't censored... the rest of the battle between Grisha and the Founding titan is coming in the next episode... it's on the preview Don't get ahead of yourselves manga readers 😁😁

Grisha's entire story is so tragic, man. What a shitty life that dude had from beginning to end.

Why is nobody talking about that scene when Eren stopped and watched the memory when he was giving Mikasa the scarf. Like, it's one of the most important scenes in the episode :v

Grisha able to see Zeke because Eren was standing behind him, giving him the exact full view of Zeke. Grisha is looking at Eren's POV, hence he never commented on Eren's appearance, but Zeke's as a bearded old man and saying has grown up so much etc. Technically Grisha is hugging air in real life back then. Grisha is seeing Zeke and himself at Eren’s view and proceeded to hug him. Just like the two key scenes in the episode where Grisha is frightened and shook, because he saw himself in Eren’s pov when Eren is directly looking at him.

@TequilaToothpick

2 жыл бұрын

So Eren wasn't talking to him in the cave but just giving him the memories?

So was it that one moment where Eren kissed Historias hand is that what he saw that it was Eren himself who had to convince Grisha to kill the Reiss family?

Mindfuckery 🤯 this anime is absolutely incredible.

“Sit down, Reiner.” ㅡ shit happens. “Stand up, Dad.” ㅡ shit happens.

This shit is so amazing. Zeke brought Eren back to his past memories to show him how he was brainwashed by Grisha but ended up seeing that Eren was the one manipulating Grisha in the first place lmao

What I don't understand is despite knowing how terrifying Eren is going to be, why did Grisha allow Eren to take the Attack Titan? After his moment with Zeke, why didn't he just decide to pass it on to someone else or something?? Someone plz explain. This has been eating me away..😂

@tah1240

2 жыл бұрын

Eren didn’t show him everything. He manipulated his father by giving him half memories. It’s fixed loop that can’t be changed. When Grisha said “why won’t you show me everything” and “it’s so terrible” he still didn’t know if Carla is going to die or not. I think it will be explained next episode.

Random, but I'm so disappointed in Rod for not even trying help his family. What a cowardly slug of a man

@shadydickson3398

2 жыл бұрын

Lol. Why do you seem surprised?

@Sonjay718

2 жыл бұрын

@@shadydickson3398 *disappointed

What is the point of flat bill on the right lol

So in order to avoid any confusion regarding the time travel mechanics, I will break down what type of Time travel we're dealing with here. AOT operates by a particular type of time travel where it's almost impossible to change the past even if you somehow go back in time. And any change that you tried to cause was always meant to happen in the overall timeline. Here time is a fixed circle, not a stream. We may see Eren meddle in the past but that was always meant to happen. This calls into the question of the existence of free will in the world of Attack of Titan. The Attack Titan's ability is to receive the memories of its future inheritors. This was hinted when Kruger mentioned Mikasa and Armin towards the end of S3. Keep in mind, they can only view these memories but can't interact with them. So how was Eren able to meddle in the past? Well, he had 3 perfect conditions: 1. He had the ability of the Attack Titan 2. The ability of the Founding Titan 3. He was also in contact with someone with royal blood AKA Zeke. After Zeke tapped Eren's head, they were able to view Grisha's past memories with Eren using the power of the coordinate. They were freely able to view the past as if it were through a one way mirror. Now if Eren had any other Titan other than the Attack Titan, he would only be able to look. But since Attack Titan can see forward in time, Grisha can use this to see Eren's recollection of the same event that he's currently experiencing in real time. So this mean that whenever Grisha can see or hear Eren, he's actually recieving a brief future memory from Eren's POV where he can see out of his eyes and hear his words. That means he is seeing himself from a 3rd perspective. Then if he responds, his response is simply part of the memory that Eren/Zeke are viewing, allowing for a two way communication through time. Also Note that everytime, Grisha sees Zeke, Eren is always standing behind his dad. So whenever Grisha sees Zeke, it is from actually due to the memories from Eren's POV

That scene with Grisha crying and losing it, that scene broke me hard. I even heard from my fellow manga readers that it was done so good by MAPPA. Jesus... It's hard to swallow the pill that make us accept the truth. Eren is the monster, always was. Btw: I think what you meant with the crying because of anxiety is because it is to much information to take in, to much to accept. Almost like five steps of denial, we are still not at acceptance yet.

Hey, guys! It's a long text, so don't read it! It's shitty English. Seeing the future and the past would be a metaphor for "certainty. To be able to see only a part of the future means that one can only connect to as much of the future as one can imagine. They wouldn't be able to access the past if they didn't know about it at all. The owl decided on Grisha so he could recognize Armin and Mikasa. Grisha heard the child Eren's thoughts about going outside the walls and decided on his mission and became aware of the future. And it seems that she definitely recognized the adult Eren. In the church, Grisha was touched by Eren's madness and saw Eren's horrible future. Also, it's not a time machine that can see memories. I think the memory images we see in anime are not exactly seeing the scene, but just visualizing the connection of consciousness. That's why Zeke is not actually hugging his father. He just understood him. I think. It's natural that your impression of the scene in this episode is different from your memory of it from the past series. Maybe Eren doesn't even notice that he's changed. Even normal people change their impressions of their past memories when they grow up. Without being aware of it. What's disgusting is that if you saw a situation like that, you'd be disgusted by the whole thing, and if you saw a completely different side of your beloved father, you'd despair. A doppelganger Ellen is possible, but I feel like it would ruin the whole story. three or four Ellens is ..... It doesn't necessarily mean that Eren actually whispered it. I'm sure Grisha felt it though. I think Eren would just think, "I guess we were connected then." I haven't read the manga. But guys! It' s all about interpretation of their words and actions! Also, I could be totally wrong about all of this. lol

Manga reader in the group just silently smiling as it goes on...

Eren: hey dad this is my friend armin Grisha: ohhh shiit...

How much was censored in this episode? I wanna read the chapter now. Why did they censor it when AOT has always shown brutal scenes in past seasons

Think about it like this, the attack titan is unlike any other being, let alone any other of the 9 titans. We as people are influenced by our past/past experiences because that’s all we know, similar to the other 8 titans. The other 8 “remember” and are influenced by their past users. BUT, The attack titan sees both its past AND future users’ memories, and is influenced in a timeline backwards to what we know as normal causality for us. Because what is more influential on your actions, a memory? Or a call to fulfill your duty in a predetermined role?? One destined by your son, in years to come… Another example of the Attack titan difference: Ymir memories go to Galliard then to Falco(forward) BUT Eren Yeager memories go to Grisha Yeager then to Eren Kruger(backward) as well as forwards It’s just tough for us watching the show to grasp the concept that season 1 Grisha was influenced by an Eren that we, at the time, didn’t know yet. All in order to, later on, allow Eren to get to the point where he influences Grisha in the past. Yes its a loop, but its def a closed/fixed loop

10:23 Eren es el tipo que se siente en su propio cerebro de lo grande que es, o sea este capítulo hizo que se me vuele la peluca 🛐

Did your brain tremble? 😂

@IntoTheVoidAnime

2 жыл бұрын

For sure a Betelgeuse moment 🤣

Next (maybe) Ymir Fritz from memories 2,000 years ago.....

Rumbling = Ragnarok. All the comparisons are there.

Let's go

Make the episode's audio more audible

Great reaction guys! You never disappoint. Can someone answer this question for me? If Grisha caught glimpses of the future and was opposed to Eren’s plans, why did he still go through with giving Eren the Attack Titan power?

@sobritaufek

2 жыл бұрын

Because soon after, he learned about the news of Carla's death and that seals the deal for him.

@keyanaclark526

2 жыл бұрын

@@sobritaufek Gotcha. Thank you

Last episode was a 10/10. This deserves more than 10/10. As a manga reader,they did this more than justice. Just some tips for anyone still 1confused. I don’t think these are spoilers,but I give a warning anyway…. Grisha, Kruger and every attack Titan holder before that have been working according to the memories sent by the future chad Eren. Eren sent his memories back in time to create the perfect environment for him to steal the founding titans power in the future and destroy the world. Remember,out of all the 9 titans,the attack Titan had always been in search of freedom,free from the founding titans control. Why do you think that is? Eren had been influencing them all. About Grish seeing Zeke at only certain times….. Grisha actually doesn’t see Eren or Zeke in HIS real time. No,Grisha sees them through the memories Eren sent him. In this case,the memory of Zeke and Eren traveling through Grishas memories, is the exact memory Eren had sent him. Notice that every time Grisha sees Zeke,Eren is standing right behind Grisha? In other words,Grish I seeing it through Erens perspective. And also when Eren told Grisha to slaughter the kids…he didn’t hear it in real-time. He has been given the memory where Chad Eren whispers that to Grisha. Aka,Grishas hearing a memory of Eren coaxing him to kill the kids. That in turn affect him in HIS real time. AND when Grisha shows the key to chad Eren ,he really doesn’t see him,but he has a general idea of where Eren is standing in the room,because of the memories he’d been given from the future(which are from Erens perspective). That’s why he doesn’t speak about how much Eren had grown,because he literally can’t see him. Only see himself through future Erens perspective,aka memories. Just GENIUS writing