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Atlas treatment for Chiari Malformation | Portland Chiropractor Dr. Chris Cooper, DC, BCAO
A true Chiari Malformation is classified as the cerebellar tonsils dipping below the foramen magnum by 10mm or more. Initially, Samantha was diagnosed with a Chiari after an MRI and the presentation of her symptoms. The medical doctor eventually retracted his official diagnosis saying her 3.5mm dipping of the Cerebellum didn't classify as a true Chiari. BUT SHE STILL HAD ALL THE CLASSIC SYMPTOMS. smh.
Atlas Orthogonal upper cervical chiropractic has been shown to help "less than full" Chiari Malformations pull back up about 2mm post adjustment.
We did a trial of care (2 weeks) to see if Samantha responded. She is doing wonderfully!
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Either she was extremely anxious doing this and relieved after or this little machine and stylus made one heck of difference. Her face and smile say it all.
Does this treatment help patients with Atlanto axial instability? I have reversal of the cervical curve and tonsil ectopia of 5mm, but i have all the really terrible neuro symptoms associated with chiari. I may have Atlanta axial instability but it's not clear. I'm declining fast but I haven't tolerated cervical traction particularly well.
So can I get my mate to do this for me with a hammer and punch? Tap tap tappety tap.
@PortlandChiropractor
4 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Frances we take X-rays to determine how to adjust. It’s a little harder than the hammer tappy tap 😂
@arconeagain
4 жыл бұрын
@@PortlandChiropractor pretty cool stuff, it took me by surprise as I have never seen anything like that procedure before. Started to get all Total Recall there for a bit.
@PortlandChiropractor
4 жыл бұрын
@@arconeagain LOL understandable
I developed neuro symptoms after a regular chiro, wondering if this may help
I was diagnosed with Chiari type 1 and syringomyelia in 02. I had decompression brain surgery in 2004. After my first appt w/the neuro surgeon he told me three things that I could never do again...ride roller coasters, do yoga in inverted positions and get an adjustment at a chiropractor. I see a chiro for muscles, but have always headed my surgeons warning. Why is it all right for this girl to be adjusted? I’d be so curious to understand what an “atlas adjustment” is and why it is safe for us with Chiari. My chiro said adjustments are off the table for me as well. Confused.
@PortlandChiropractor
3 жыл бұрын
That’s a great question and I understand the confusion. I have 2 answers for you. 1) The girl in this video has not had a surgery. She also didn’t have a syringomeylia. That makes her a better candidate for this adjustment. 2) BUT she is NEVER a candidate for a manual adjustment (twist, crack) or even activator (little clicky). The type of force this machine delivers is unique and studied and even backed by the FDA (if that means anything). It is very safe for most. In your case with a surgery and spinal cord changes, I would probably review all the post-op imaging you have and potentially consult with your surgeon if necessary.
@kayla3972
3 жыл бұрын
@@PortlandChiropractor thanks for answering her question. I had decompression surgery and they told me not to do adjustments either. It's good that the patient doesn't have to have surgery and can just go to you. I always wondered if this was helpful to others.
@bhupatbhaikarmur7038
2 жыл бұрын
Hello mem namste chiari malformation with syrinx tretment success full help me indian
@bhupatbhaikarmur7038
2 жыл бұрын
Hello mem chiari malformation with syrinx problem success help me
@stewartlv80
Жыл бұрын
My wife has Chiari and she gets adjusted.
This is BS. There is not a neurologist that would ever let a Chari patient do this.
Sir chiari malformation with syrinx patients success full help me
I was flat out told post op that chiropractic work would paralyze me and nobody worth anything wouldn’t touch you either.
@PortlandChiropractor
4 жыл бұрын
This technique doesn’t involve any twist or pop. I have a patient who had a posterior arch “laminectomy” of C1 that responds well to this treatment. I would NEVER adjust her manually though. Very contraindicated. Before even accepting you as a patient, I would have to review your post op MRI and/or CT scan. Your doctor is right, some people are not candidates for chiropractic. But they might not be familiar with this specific treatment.
@PikaPotterhead07
3 жыл бұрын
Same
@sparkinton
3 жыл бұрын
@@PikaPotterhead07 I need to revise my statement. I ended up buckling and going to my wife’s chiropractor. She doesn’t touch anything above my shoulders, but the rest of my body appreciates it. I stand corrected (key here being nothing above the shoulders) and humbled. I would strongly advise anyone with a similar situation to have x rays done, and have a deep discussion with the chiropractor regarding your comfort levels, hesitations, and the details of your condition.
@Dreamer-pf3uk
2 жыл бұрын
I had decompression surgery at 9… I was also told this, however I’ve had 2 AO adjustments.. if you want your life to completely change, I highly highly suggest getting adjusted.
@maddieloges9535
Жыл бұрын
@@Dreamer-pf3uk thank you!
I have a 10 m cerebellum sagging, making headaches when coughing in movements that increase body pressure
@PortlandChiropractor
4 жыл бұрын
Leesin 😔 I’m sorry to hear that.
@tezmain5990
3 жыл бұрын
Iam 10 mm too im trying to have my surgery now
Very hard to believe that little needle top change the body
I have chiari malformation type 1 and i was told no one would help me cuz of how severe my symptoms are. I have headache's, back, nech pain everyday and occasional tingling/numbness in my arms and shoulders and feet. Trouble seeing/swolling. Trouble sleeping and i cant sleep on the right side of my head due to tendernes. is it true no one will help me or is it just hard to find someone that will?
@PortlandChiropractor
3 жыл бұрын
I can't comment on your individual case. Search into google maps "Atlas Orthogonal chiropractor" and see if anyone is close. If surgery is not an option, AO is your next best bet.
For Samantha: Do diaphragm stretches and deep breathing using the wimhoff method. I find I can stretch the interior spine cervica, thoracic and lumbar with deep breathing and deep breath holds while stretching.❤
Interesting. Wish I could understand more about how external adjustments can alter tonsil position. But I’m not really one to benefit anyway. I was 12mm and got decompression surgery
@PortlandChiropractor
4 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear, I hope you’re feeling well. The exact reason is still unclear, but the dentate ligaments that attach from C1 to the dura mater of your spinal cord may play a role. Educated guesses at this point.
@bassventura6144
2 жыл бұрын
Did it help ? What were your symptoms ?
Is this safe for people with Chiari as well as people with instability in c1 and C21NM?
@PortlandChiropractor
4 жыл бұрын
Very safe. Prior to treatment, a throughout exam is performed as well as cervical x-rays.
What kind of massager is that?
My chiro will stretch and massage but wont do anything else. I do miss the back cracking though
Where to go for atlas evaluation
My wife has pain in the spine at night when laying down,we used the phanton genius which is like a super sauna and that work temporarily the chiropractic treatment work temporarily cold ice compressions helped temporarily chiropractor said to clean up her diet she's lost 5 to 6 lb because if you're allergic to some foods it can mess with your joints, some days she feels good and today she feels like the pain is a lil better ,she has 4mm are we doing the right things sir
Sir can you explain difference between Atlas subluxation or atlantoaxial instability AAI
@PortlandChiropractor
Жыл бұрын
AAI is instability between C1-2. Atlas misalignment is dysfunction between C0-1-2 (C0 is the occiput).
Isn't traction bad for chiari?
Isn't it bad for someone with Chiari to get their neck popped? I'm not able to because of mine...
@PortlandChiropractor
3 жыл бұрын
You’ll see in the video she does not get her neck popped. Treatment does not involve twisting or cracking the neck.
What do you think of Chiropractic adjustments for Chiari Malformation patients with a 10mm± tonsil herniation?
@PortlandChiropractor
4 жыл бұрын
Well, the research shows only a 3mm lifting of the tonsils post adjustment. Theoretically, the slight lift can decrease pressure on the nervous tissue but there is a chance the benefit will be minimal. That being said, the procedure is extremely non-invasive, non-addictive, and relatively cost-effective. So I'd at least give it a try.
No treatment through the Hoodie
Hey i have a question im getting an xray done because im having tension and vertigo from the base of my skull. And im wondering would an xray show atlas misalignment? Or would i need a mri
@PortlandChiropractor
3 жыл бұрын
That’s a good question. It is an X-ray that helps diagnose an atlas misalignment. But unless you take 2 very specific X-rays, it won’t be super helpful. If the radiologist knows what they are looking for, they can see a dramatic atlas misalignment in the lateral cervical Xray or the AP open mouth Xray. The 2 special X-rays are called vertex and nasium. An MRI isn’t trustworthy to show misalignment because usually you are lying down.
@thademon4836
3 жыл бұрын
@@PortlandChiropractor i was standing up and looking up and down and straight if thats helpful
@PortlandChiropractor
3 жыл бұрын
@@thademon4836 That's called a flexion/extension study. Not the same as the atlas analysis. It's great for trauma and whiplash to make sure nothing is damaged.
@thademon4836
3 жыл бұрын
@@PortlandChiropractor ok thank you.
@thademon4836
3 жыл бұрын
@@PortlandChiropractor im just curious if I have one i have full range of motion but i got that pain on base of skull :0
Starburst candy is good candy. I am just sayin'.
Would this help mine is 5 mm
@PortlandChiropractor
4 жыл бұрын
It’s worth a try. It’s very safe.
@bassventura6144
2 жыл бұрын
Do you have symptoms ? If so what are they ? I’m trying to figure out what’s wrong w me
I wish I would've tried to go to chiropractor first before having decompression surgery.... Of course knowing my luck neither would've worked... I'm just destined to a life of misery thanks to Chiari.
@PortlandChiropractor
3 жыл бұрын
There is a chance it could provide at least some relief.
@rikkihurt
3 жыл бұрын
@@PortlandChiropractor even after decompression surgery? I was under the impression that after surgery, going to a chiropractor was out of the question.
@PortlandChiropractor
3 жыл бұрын
@@rikkihurt You are right to never have your neck manually adjusted (popped). This is very different from that. Of course, it's a case by case basis. I'd have to review your pre and post MRI, read the reports, and determine the safety before moving forward. Each Atlas Orthogonal chiropractor can do that with you.
@Animal14722
2 жыл бұрын
Your surgery didn't work? :(
@rikkihurt
2 жыл бұрын
@@Animal14722 I have mixed feelings. I think I needed it for sure but it didn't work as well as I had hoped. I think I lived with it too long and some of the damage was irreversible. Here's a couple examples: I stopped slurring my speech, stuttering, my memory slightly improved (I can at least have a conversation now. Before I would forget what I was talking about halfway through a sentence), balance slightly improved, I don't choke on my saliva as often as I used to. I would literally choke on it a few dozen times a day, now a couple times a week. Some of my numbness improved. Headaches did not improve my neck pain/stiffness did not improve, I still have issues with vomiting, my voice is still very hoarse, I still get blurred vision and extremely sensitivity to light, so on. I do need to go to a doctor because sometimes now my neck is getting stuck when I try to straighten it. It feels like it's catching on something. I just have other health issues that it's been hard to get it checked out. So please don't get me wrong, I still would have it done if I was able to do it over again. It just wasn't as successful as it probably could have been if done earlier in life. I know a girl who had it done when she was 17 years old and is perfectly healthy. I was 33.