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Atlanta Falcons 2024 Draft Grade | PFF

PFF's Sam Monson and Steve Palazzolo grade the Atlanta Flacons 2024 NFL Draft Class.
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  • @woopig4419
    @woopig44193 ай бұрын

    All I know is last year we had Ridder and Heineke and this year we have Cousins and Penix Jr. so take that for what you will.

  • @JediMentat

    @JediMentat

    3 ай бұрын

    We also had a historically bad pass rush that we didn't improve. And 1 good CB on the roster who could use some help. And an extremely shallow WR pool

  • @traviss9583

    @traviss9583

    3 ай бұрын

    @@JediMentatwe added 3 DL, 2 of which had very high pass rushing grades. How did that not improve the pass rush?

  • @mattyghost3409

    @mattyghost3409

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@traviss9583Maybe next yr lol

  • @TT-dv9er

    @TT-dv9er

    3 ай бұрын

    Aaron Rogers much….

  • @TT-dv9er

    @TT-dv9er

    3 ай бұрын

    @@JediMentatThe defense was the best unit last year. The defense played with no offense. That impacts your numbers and the Falcons switched to a 3/4 defense.

  • @daking8374
    @daking83743 ай бұрын

    He might have been ranked in the 30s but had we not drafted him at 8, no way he would have made it past the broncos or raiders

  • @GodlyZOfficial

    @GodlyZOfficial

    3 ай бұрын

    Or the Saints god forbid. Had a week to marinate and I understood this whole draft more. We are gonna build our defense in the middle rds) (until forever)

  • @daking8374

    @daking8374

    3 ай бұрын

    @@GodlyZOfficial The good thing is that we didn’t have to AND won’t have to (in the future) mortgage all our future first round picks to move up and get a qb. Plus god knows what the nfl is gonna do to us for tampering (allegedly)

  • @kevinrandolph8729

    @kevinrandolph8729

    3 ай бұрын

    Exactly 💯

  • @RealCGH

    @RealCGH

    3 ай бұрын

    Or the Vikings

  • @phenoms10
    @phenoms103 ай бұрын

    First genuine conversation about the pick that isn’t full of buzz words and “shock”.

  • @CrashMusic-sd3nd

    @CrashMusic-sd3nd

    3 ай бұрын

    You're glueing 2 quarterbacks together. They paid Cousins to because Penix is hurt a lot. It's not a waste of money. Penix beat Penn State with a crappy Indiana team.

  • @Hozuki16

    @Hozuki16

    3 ай бұрын

    Exactly!

  • @mfduck8397
    @mfduck83973 ай бұрын

    PFF is refreshing in its ability to be logical.😏

  • @spittlefish5208
    @spittlefish52083 ай бұрын

    I think it's a brilliant move because it is so forward-thinking. People get too lost in the weeds on $$ and draft capital. The analysis should be of the league itself which has gotten extremely QB-focused such that monkey-swinging to your next QB while holding onto your current one is the smart way to approach a franchise-build. Just saying that seeing what teams like the Packers and Chiefs have done. Otherwise you risk ending up in QB no man's land, usually jamming rookie QBs into no-win, terrible situations and then watching them flame out only to repeat the process again and again.

  • @JediMentat

    @JediMentat

    3 ай бұрын

    It's so forward thinking that it screams "we know we're going to STINK the next couple of years, so we won't worry about any players who could help us win NOW, even though we just went all in on a very expensive veteran QB." It looks like we gave up and curled up into a ball before the season even fkn started

  • @Mark-qx2zk

    @Mark-qx2zk

    3 ай бұрын

    Lmao stop being so dramatic. Better QB play last year and they were for sure a playoff team. They have the future planned out as well as a back up plan if cousins Achilles doesn’t hold up. If they didn’t make the move and 35 year old Kirk goes down with an injury the season is over. It’s not as bad as you think bro.

  • @JediMentat

    @JediMentat

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Mark-qx2zk abandon ship! ⚓ 🚢

  • @kennethmorsee

    @kennethmorsee

    3 ай бұрын

    @@JediMentat just adding cousins made us the prohibitive favorites to win the division. There was no player in the draft that would have instantly made us able to compete with the 49ers, Lions, Eagles etc for a SB. A healthy Cousins helps us win NOW Penix Jr. helps us win LATER

  • @DW1LLi

    @DW1LLi

    3 ай бұрын

    @@kennethmorseei understand your logic i honestly do but you can’t draft a back up plan with 8th overall pick and if you think legit WR in Rome or athletic freak of pass rusher in turner wouldn’t help the falcons win now you are crazy my man. Also the falcons didn’t draft one starter i doubt Trice pushes for Carters spot Ruke will get some rotation forsure but other than that this draft was horrible

  • @broduce6535
    @broduce65353 ай бұрын

    Point that nobody seems to be making is you don’t know that penix will be there when you’re drafting

  • @adrixx116
    @adrixx1163 ай бұрын

    If folks didn't focus on a single season to rank these QB's, Penix would hands down be 1st overall with a 2 season sample size. He only has 35 rushing plays in each of the last 2 seasons, which means he's not bailing on the plays. This particular stat raises the pass play %, which he ranked highest out of the group. He had 2 fumbles in 6 years and minimal sacks. Look at Tom Brady's stats. That's his game. He also did this at schools that weren't known for Winning. They got a dude...

  • @WynnLimousin
    @WynnLimousin3 ай бұрын

    I am happy with Michael Penix Jr pick. Look what happen to The Jets last year. I bet they wish they would have picked a QB in the draft. Four snaps later their season was over. Now what do you think of the pick?

  • @joewyatt2269
    @joewyatt22693 ай бұрын

    And I think it's important to note, it only took one pick to get Penix. Teams routinely trade multiple 1st round picks to get a franchise QB. And if Cousins is as good as we think, the only way the Falcons would be in a position to draft a top 10 QB is if they trade multiple 1st round picks.

  • @98NinjAOrANge

    @98NinjAOrANge

    3 ай бұрын

    Penix is most likely not a franchise guy tho I loved him in college I think he’s the pest PASSER in the draft it’s just he’s like a statue in the pocket he will get pressured in the nfl and he doesnt do real well in pressure but we’ll see I wish him the best

  • @waynehaines5884
    @waynehaines58843 ай бұрын

    Arthur blank had to agree with them about penix jr, so why are you worried about the falcons draft, after all, it's his money. 😮

  • @shankdiddy9045

    @shankdiddy9045

    3 ай бұрын

    NOT only did he sign off on it. I bet he was like Hell yeah Nobody wants to think about how a 80 year old man doesn't want to sit back and watch another 2023 again... or any year after Matt Ryan.

  • @OhNoTwisted
    @OhNoTwisted3 ай бұрын

    2 things. Seahawks got an F draft grade in 2012 draft. The year they drafted Bobby Wagner, Bruce Irvin, Russell Wilson, Robert Turbin, and JR Sweezy. All of whom made the roster. They also signed a high priced FA QB that year, but decided to start Russell Wilson after he did well in the preseason. Even though everyone freaked out because they already had given that FA QB a big contract. Somehow they managed to make the playoffs with that rookie QB, and a SB win shortly after. Getting a poor draft grade and starting a rookie QB after you signed a high priced FA QB isn't the end of the world. Or even a sign things are going the wrong direction.

  • @davidwillis8623
    @davidwillis86233 ай бұрын

    Y’all’s argument when we took Bijan Robinson at 8 was that RB wasn’t that valuable, now your argument is taking Penix at QB was too high despite QB being the MOST valuable position… tad wishy washy

  • @TheMattTrakker

    @TheMattTrakker

    3 ай бұрын

    Penix is going to sit for 2 years, so you're losing value just from that. The evaluation of penix as a player is a whole nother question. It's wishy washy if you include exactly 0 context.

  • @KairuX32

    @KairuX32

    3 ай бұрын

    You can't just ignore the context. Besides their whole draft process was god awful not just that pick.

  • @sekehi3

    @sekehi3

    3 ай бұрын

    @@KairuX32who knows- the Seahawks has an F grade draft in 2012 and won the superbowl the next year

  • @RingsWorkshop

    @RingsWorkshop

    3 ай бұрын

    I was more surprised by Penix, but was more angry at the Bijan pick.

  • @JediMentat

    @JediMentat

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@KairuX32thank you! They moved up for players who were the 4th best available at their position, who would've been there without the need to trade up. There were SO MANY great players that we passed on for complete head scratchers.

  • @ferndelisle
    @ferndelisle3 ай бұрын

    Kirk Cousins was probably so shocked because he knows what can happen in this scenario. He got drafted same draft that RGIII was drafted second overall and Kirk eventually took his job.

  • @Flawless_XLBullies
    @Flawless_XLBullies3 ай бұрын

    Beautiful said. Always great content (but right after our pick is questionable 🤔lol). Everyone is so shocked, but when we showed so much interest in him, I figured we had a chance to get either him or rattler and put $50 on us getting him and hit $650. Didn’t really think we’d get him this early in the first, but Penix processes better than everyone in the class, has the best spiral/ deep ball, a proven winner/ Leader , and runs a decent speed. Plus has the best ball placement (which in my opinion) is one of the best skills to translate to the NFL. Plus cuz going to win us a Super Bowl before he passes the Paton. Grooming Penix by the best person, at the best time. Thanks again

  • @jtb14465
    @jtb144653 ай бұрын

    Its Kirk Cousins coming off a major injury, its a smart move I'm more mad about the trade up in the 2nd rd.

  • @kennethmorsee

    @kennethmorsee

    3 ай бұрын

    I bet jets fan understand this move better than anybody lol

  • @user-iq2gh3ub3r

    @user-iq2gh3ub3r

    2 ай бұрын

    THEN DO NOT SIGN KIRK TO 100 MILLION DOLLAR IF HE'S COMING OFF INJURY AND YOU ARE WORRIED

  • @chrisshivers1685
    @chrisshivers16853 ай бұрын

    I’m amazed it’s that high , complete trainwreck of a draft but with Fontenot and Raheem that isn’t Surprising

  • @falsestartfalcon
    @falsestartfalcon3 ай бұрын

    If penix was a reach , what was Nix-McCarthy?

  • @Cjhilly
    @Cjhilly3 ай бұрын

    Good video 💯

  • @ghosttowntomato
    @ghosttowntomato3 ай бұрын

    This literally isn’t that shocking

  • @AJandWrmyinitials
    @AJandWrmyinitials3 ай бұрын

    17:11 you’re a madman and I love it!

  • @deelawton4

    @deelawton4

    3 ай бұрын

    It’s true! The Falcons need to be applauded for the Penix Jr 🏹 pick 👏👏

  • @christophertumblin5889
    @christophertumblin58893 ай бұрын

    I'm tired of hearing this "if they loved Penix, then they should have signed a bridge qb instead of Cousins" bs...*especially* when they follow it with a Packers/Chiefs comparison. The entire point of having a qb sit is for them to learn the game on a professional level and thus, the starting qb inevitably becomes a mentor to the rookie. Love sat behind Rodgers and Mahomes sat behind Smith, both of whom were/are top tier qbs. From a strictly performance perspective (individual stats, not win loss record), Cousins is a top tier qb - potentially elite. If Penix truly is the future of the franchise, then spending all that money to get the best qb available for him to sit behind and learn from is money *well* spent. It's wild how rare and frowned upon planning for anything other than the immediate future is in the NFL, but I'm grateful to be a fan of one of the few teams in the league that do. On top of that, there honestly wasn't a single player they could've taken at 8 who would've gotten them any closer to a SB this year anyway. The $100m guaranteed to Cousins *should* at least buy their ticket to the 4 seed next year as NFC South champs though, meaning they shouldn't see another top 10 pick while Cousins is qb. Hell, they might not even have a first round pick next year after tampering. This was damn near a "now or never" situation, and I'm glad they went ahead and addressed it.

  • @D00BIESNACKS420

    @D00BIESNACKS420

    Ай бұрын

    Falcons also didn't know Penix would be available when they drafted 8th. No guarantee you can trade up and at what cost as it takes two to tango. Then you risk not having a QB you love on the roster after the draft. People like to make comments on how teams could have waited to draft this player. Or they should have traded down as he would have still been available etc etc as if they had a crystal ball knowing the future. I'm fine with how Atlanta went about this

  • @Nicho_Ldn
    @Nicho_Ldn3 ай бұрын

    How is the Falcons offense “stacked”? We have one proven and consistent receiver in London, and the biggest uncertainty of the offensive line is pass protection. They also chose to neglect the secondary entirely, whilst the pass rush is a bunch of rookies and erratic prospects from previous drafts.

  • @solomonn2102
    @solomonn21023 ай бұрын

    Best discussion of this topic. Will subscribe. Data has shown Qb's who sit behind a veteran and learn (Tom, Aaron, Patrick, etc) typically have a higher success rate than those who don't. In the last 20 years I'm not even sure you can name a QB (Outside of Russel Wilson who had to compete with a vet) who won a superbowl after not sitting behind a veteran for atleast a few games or half the season to learn. Ben Roethlisberger comes to mind in 2004, and he only started in week 2 because Tommy Maddox got injured. NFL GM's and coaches instead keep wasting talent by throwing young unprepared qb's into the fire, then pushing them out after 2-3 years.

  • @illmaticJJ

    @illmaticJJ

    3 ай бұрын

    Ironically enough, I think it was largely Matt Ryan (and Flacco) hitting the ground running immediately that altered that approach from teams.

  • @davaughn2376
    @davaughn23763 ай бұрын

    People are crazy. The falcons had the chance to draft fields and let him learn behind Matt Ryan. They been taking skill position players every draft. They finally decided to draft a position that matter and people are mad. This franchise has never won so they should start doing things differently. Look at what Tom Brady did in this weaker division in 2020. This team was good last year but Qb play was terrible, now you at least stand a chance to make some noise and people still mad smh.

  • @D00BIESNACKS420

    @D00BIESNACKS420

    Ай бұрын

    Fields was traded for a 6th round draft pick. That's what NFL teams think about Fields. Crazy how some people still think it was a mistake Atlanta didnt take him with the 4th overall pick.

  • @pmike3243
    @pmike32433 ай бұрын

    Not even gonna mention how they traded up to draft Ruke instead of the #2 DT in this draft Johnny Newton???

  • @jeffstanley6013
    @jeffstanley60133 ай бұрын

    I don't have a problem with ATL drafting Penix. What I do have a problem with is ATL signing Cousins to be the most expensive bridge QB in league history. That cap space could have been used elsewhere. If all you want is a bridge QB, pursue Brissett, not Cousins. That way, you can still have higher draft picks the next few years too.

  • @sekehi3

    @sekehi3

    3 ай бұрын

    I would rather a rookie learn under cousins and have the team compete for 2 years than a random journey man QB

  • @lavs8696

    @lavs8696

    3 ай бұрын

    cousins will maximize the talent they have, brissett is just wasting another year of bijan, london, and pitts. they've been wasted enough

  • @alexyoung755

    @alexyoung755

    3 ай бұрын

    Bridge qbs don’t win games, don’t sell tickets, and don’t give your young offense quality play to improve their game with. The cap hits for the two qbs combined is still low

  • @jeremyharbin9450
    @jeremyharbin94503 ай бұрын

    You say they could get a bridge QB after Kirk and they just did that with Mariota and Ridder and it went horribly so this was the time to take a QB and let him sit learn and be a great starter when he plays!! I was skeptical at first but I’m happy now especially if he becomes great!! I also wish they had not moved up in the 2nd and kept a 3rd round pick and wish they had drafted Bullard or Smith I’m so tired of the Falcons not taking high value Dawgs !!!!!!

  • @TheMattTrakker

    @TheMattTrakker

    3 ай бұрын

    Yeah that works, until he's not a great starter and you wasted the 8th pick. Enjoy picking @ 8 again.

  • @Ish393
    @Ish3933 ай бұрын

    I think in theory its fine. My issue is the team chemistry and QB room. Not sure its best for a team to have this situation where some people with gravitate towards Penix and some to kirk. Sends mixed signals. I would of preferred to not sign Kirk and draft like always

  • @joewyatt2269
    @joewyatt22693 ай бұрын

    I love this pick and I'll tell you now that the Falcons should keep evaluating QB's in every draft and they should definitely be looking for another one to add by the time Penix is in year 2 or 3 of playing. It's so dumb that teams routinely draft rotational guys, replacement guys or developmental guys at all the other positions on a team (aside from K/P) but don't try to find the next starting QB unless their guy is already failing or done, when that is the most important position in the NFL.

  • @jtb14465

    @jtb14465

    3 ай бұрын

    Preach, the most important position on the field I would draft one every year. I also don't believe in old backups, I'd rather have 2 rookies battle for the back up position.

  • @kennethmorsee

    @kennethmorsee

    3 ай бұрын

    I agree the Falcons actually did this with Matt Schaub when Vick was smelling out the dome and were able to get a nice return on their investment via draft picks

  • @brianmulholland2467
    @brianmulholland24673 ай бұрын

    You guys completely spun yourselves around on this one. If they really loved Penix like this, then they shouldn't have brought in Cousins. Now they have set themselves up for a divided locker room and a weaker supporting cast while wasting two years of a rookie QB contract. It's not that drafting Penix is inherently wrong OR that signing Cousins is indefensible. Doing BOTH in the SAME YEAR is indefensible. Cousins was signed only a month and a half earlier. Their scouting process would have already watched his tape. If you love him don't waste your time and money on Cousins. Let him go somewhere and take a competitor out of the QB market. Instead now you have a tampering charge AND a hole on your cap that will prevent you from putting pieces around Penix and a possible fractured locker room and disgruntled veteran and an older rookie QB who doesn't need to sit like Love did who is gathering cobwebs on the bench.

  • @DaRealest908
    @DaRealest9083 ай бұрын

    Around the 9:45 mark. Not sure how he is saying the 2 years doesn't matter. In his scenario we would draft a qb that is more than likely 21 22 and we would have 5 years of a low qb contract. Penix in two years is 26. And according to yall cap numbers it won't be until year 3 (27) when Atlanta has no high qb cap hit. So a 2 year window and then he'll get paid assuming penix is good. And right back to high qb contract on the books. To compare this is year 2 for cj stroud. The Texans are signing everyone they can right now to make a run. Next season they would have to cut a bunch of guys to make cap space

  • @shiny460
    @shiny4603 ай бұрын

    What I really hate about this narrative is that people act like whoever we take at 8 wouldve been an instant impact player. Latu, Turner, and Murphy are most likely going to be 5 sack guys next year.

  • @bdub440
    @bdub4403 ай бұрын

    Look, if we go with the viewpoint that the Falcons will be at least a playoff level team for the next two years with Cousins under center, picking high enough to get a succession plan is out of the question. It takes 2 years to develop an NFL QB. They were smart to take Penix now. What if the Falcons would have burned a 2 or 3 on Russell Wilson when he was available?

  • @Keith_No_Sweat
    @Keith_No_Sweat3 ай бұрын

    So...... They are entitled to their opinion the fact still remains we have him....... They mad😂😂😂😂

  • @Y2K2PointO
    @Y2K2PointO3 ай бұрын

    TBF, they couldn’t be sure that they could get Penix in March. What if the Giants weren’t morons and decided to actually get a stud? What if NE loved Penix? Hedging your QB risk is smart. Surprised I’m aligned with these guys for once, but I don’t understand all the hate for this pick

  • @davidheinz6124
    @davidheinz61243 ай бұрын

    I am glad I'm not in that QB room. How weird is that going to be. I was drafted 8th over all, and they are paying $100 million. And which guy do the rest of the players want on the field? It is going to be strange!!

  • @stebo5562
    @stebo55623 ай бұрын

    Can’t believe the giants walked away from this draft with Danny dimes still as their Quarterback

  • @555calex

    @555calex

    3 ай бұрын

    I couldn't believe they didn't go after Levi who has a cannon for an arm basically came down the board into the 2nd round and because of the injury Levi would have started but he'd be on a rookie contract that would have been very affordable. They and I'm sure this is the owner controlling this narrative overriding the GM and HC...

  • @ref233

    @ref233

    3 ай бұрын

    Giants drafted a true #1 WR they need who potentially will be a top-5 WR at his position soon. Giants can draft a QB next season unless miraculously Lock or Jones has a great season.

  • @deelawton4

    @deelawton4

    3 ай бұрын

    Danny dimes just signed for a $160 and y’all say the Giants should of drafted a quarterback But when the Falcons sign Kirk for a $100 and draft Penix it’s a problem 🤦‍♂️

  • @stebo5562

    @stebo5562

    3 ай бұрын

    @@deelawton4 I like the Penix pick. I don’t understand how the giants can walk away from a quarterback heavy draft with Danny dimes as their signal caller. Nabers is a great player but as a Texans fan, I had to watch Andre Johnson’s career be wasted because my team refused to move on from Matt Schaub until it was too late. Great WR with no QB = PAIN

  • @deelawton4

    @deelawton4

    3 ай бұрын

    @@stebo5562 I feel ya bro

  • @matthewlarose1571
    @matthewlarose15713 ай бұрын

    Totally agree with Sam on this one. The Falcons clearly value the years of sideline development Penix can have, this move makes absolutely no sense if they dont

  • @3ghostman332
    @3ghostman3323 ай бұрын

    Finally mouthpieces that make sense

  • @donaldjabibski4223
    @donaldjabibski42233 ай бұрын

    "Cousins Deal is only a 2 year contract" except the $35M dead cap in year 3(its not $25M PFF, its $35M, take a closer look at what becomes garaunteed on 3/17, 2025 ...) would be the 5th highest single dead money amount in NFL history right now. I like Penix for ATL but the Kirk contract looks terrible unless you do the mental gymnastics of deluding yourself into believing sitting behind Kirk Cousins is the only way Penix can develop. I like Penix a lot more if they didnt position his start to be inline with a top 10 dead money cut in NFL history for a 36 year old bridge QB coming off an achilles tear.

  • @ref233
    @ref2333 ай бұрын

    Cousins essentially has a 2-year deal paying him only $90 million guaranteed money over that span. Falcons prepared for the 2026 season by drafting a soon to be 24 year old prior to the 2024 season.

  • @loganhentko2152

    @loganhentko2152

    3 ай бұрын

    Only 90 million 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @thomasdickson375
    @thomasdickson3753 ай бұрын

    Half of the qbs drafted in the 1st round will bomb. Initial draft grades are basically useless

  • @arlieferguson7442
    @arlieferguson74423 ай бұрын

    I think you’ve all been taken in by the rationalizations after the fact. They basically paid 100mil guaranteed for a qb and then completely undermined his position creating a likely qb controversy. If Penix sits 2 years, you’re taking two years from a guy who’s going to be ready before that and will be 26-27 years old. Then you have the lack of cap flexibility that will prevent you from signing guys. And then there’s just messing with KC’s mind at the end of his career while Penix loses two years. And then there’s the opportunity cost of taking P. instead of drafting a potential starter who can help the team reach higher. None of this makes sense as a deliberate plan.

  • @JediMentat

    @JediMentat

    3 ай бұрын

    None of the excuses for this pick outweigh the stupidity of it. And then every pick beyond 8 was also HORRENDOUS. It was actually the worst draft I can ever remember seeing. And every draft has been that way under Fontenot. He's just a terrible drafter. Outside of surefire top 10 picks (even then, he doesn't take players at positions of greatest need) he takes DUDS

  • @Y2K2PointO
    @Y2K2PointO3 ай бұрын

    Since 1994, only 3 QBs have won Super Bowls on rookie contracts. Please stop propagating the idea that the rookie QB contract leads to championships. There are other premium positions that can net similar savings in the aggregate. Bucs had an elite RT and DT on a rookie contract, so they had plenty to go around. If you hit on picks, the 40-50 Mil for a QB isn’t going to stop success.

  • @user-iq2gh3ub3r
    @user-iq2gh3ub3r2 ай бұрын

    You mention Washington they made the playoffs with Kirk and had 2 winning seasons in 3 years after Kirk left the Redskins went to 16 Wins 33 Losses 1 Tie and they have had 11 QBs who busted including 1st Round Draft Pick had no winning seasons and never made the playoffs.

  • @rajbabugi9932
    @rajbabugi99323 ай бұрын

    we could’ve just signed cousins and traded for fields and drafted an edge or wr

  • @alienoverlordsnow1786
    @alienoverlordsnow17863 ай бұрын

    PFF was idiotic to rate Penix 32!! There were politics involved, but they wont admit it. Everybody knew Penix would go top 13 and that he was a better college QB than any of the other dudes. Baldy predicted top 13, Leaf said he was QB 1. Raiders were plannng to take him at 13. Vikings tried to move up to get him, but were stymied.

  • @hugeboi3669

    @hugeboi3669

    3 ай бұрын

    They were referencing the consensus board, so clearly not “everybody” had Penix ranked high. Many people have him a second round grade, and a few had him graded really high. The consensus rank was #31. The obvious knocks were age and injury history. Penix also lacks play extension, has bad mechanics causing serious inaccuracy, doesn’t throw well over the middle of the field, and played in the same offense for six years. I don’t think his post-snap processing is all that good, and it needs to be in order for him to be a starter. Penix has great arm strength from the pocket and was an excellent pocket passer in college. However, his team was stacked with great players and coaches. I don’t believe anybody else besides the Raiders was interested in Penix. All the other reports have been denied, and Payton said Broncos-Vikings-Raiders had a pact to not trade up because they liked different QBs and thought they could get them at their spots.

  • @RingsWorkshop

    @RingsWorkshop

    3 ай бұрын

    Wasn’t even their rankings they were talking about, it’s the consensus board. What politics are you talking about?

  • @catfishman1768
    @catfishman17683 ай бұрын

    It does not make sense. They will either have an extremely highly drafted QB on the bench or an extremely highly paid QB on the bench. The odds of Penix or any other QB will be a top QB aren’t good.

  • @jbrew7396
    @jbrew73963 ай бұрын

    Don’t care about draft grades because you don’t know if the draft is good until you see them play

  • @calvinsmediocrechannel8103

    @calvinsmediocrechannel8103

    3 ай бұрын

    THIS... it's so stupid.

  • @AJandWrmyinitials

    @AJandWrmyinitials

    3 ай бұрын

    You can *start* evaluating a draft at the end of the next season and finish that evaluation at the end of the fourth season. The day after draft grades are and always have been silly. Witness most of them being As and Bs (the Falcons not withstanding) the next day and many of those ending up unremarkable.

  • @jbrew7396

    @jbrew7396

    3 ай бұрын

    @@calvinsmediocrechannel8103 it’s crazy. Analysts and fans bashing teams and players before the young men even get a playbook. It’s ok to not like picks, but to say teams are having terrible drafts is crazy lol.

  • @matthewlarose1571

    @matthewlarose1571

    3 ай бұрын

    to be fair in this though, a lot of their analysis seems to actually go against their low grade. They praise the boldness of the move and what it represents long-term, its just never been done in this manner so its fair to criticize

  • @Keith_No_Sweat
    @Keith_No_Sweat3 ай бұрын

    They started that tampering rumor cause they wanted the first round pick

  • @brandonhallam51
    @brandonhallam513 ай бұрын

    Passed on a SEC DPOY for a backup qb...

  • @Cjhilly

    @Cjhilly

    3 ай бұрын

    Reach for some Mid? 😭

  • @Servantoftheholyspirit

    @Servantoftheholyspirit

    3 ай бұрын

    I like Turner but it’s not like they were passing on Will Anderson 😂

  • @nomesnomes1

    @nomesnomes1

    3 ай бұрын

    He's definitely not Will Anderson. The first defensive player went 15.

  • @RingsWorkshop

    @RingsWorkshop

    3 ай бұрын

    They weren’t going to take Turner, they were eyeing Latu.

  • @prapra15777

    @prapra15777

    3 ай бұрын

    @@RingsWorkshop exactly.. man everyone is on groupthink with turner

  • @darrylquick1287
    @darrylquick12873 ай бұрын

    Y’all love bringing up Kirk contract. WE DID NOT KNOW PENIX WAS GONNA FALL TO 8 BEFORE THE DRAFT. Why y’all gotta problem with ppl spending money on a qb anyway when y’all been bashing tf outta qbs

  • @CrashMusic-sd3nd
    @CrashMusic-sd3nd3 ай бұрын

    Penix is a winner...start the kid

  • @genethedancinmachine5483
    @genethedancinmachine54833 ай бұрын

    They could have gotten Cousins for 8 million for 1 year and had 92 million for free agents. Worst signing in NFL history. At least Deshan Watson was young and healthy and in demand.

  • @manwhosayf
    @manwhosayf3 ай бұрын

    Falcons went from the worst QB room to something the fans can be excited about in 1 offseason. Everyone acting like they're stupid for fixing the QB situation is hilarious, especially since they have the cap space to do it.

  • @dylanhackworth2652
    @dylanhackworth26523 ай бұрын

    For Me: Falcons: D or D-

  • @CapeCodPhilip
    @CapeCodPhilip3 ай бұрын

    Penix is injury insurance.

  • @PDXpsych
    @PDXpsych3 ай бұрын

    Falcons could have had Rome Odunze or Brock Bowers instead they alienated both quarterbacks and their fanbase to ask a 24 year old rookie drafted 8th overall to sit for 2 years. Should have drafted a backup GM and coach while they were at it

  • @matthewlarose1571

    @matthewlarose1571

    3 ай бұрын

    if we cant get it done on offense this season with 3 top 10 picks at pass catcher and RB then thats a way bigger indictment on their drafting ability than the penix pick imo

  • @user-mp6dl7wc9z
    @user-mp6dl7wc9z3 ай бұрын

    There is no such thing as a QB can only take you so far Stafford won 0 playoff games in DET and had a losing regular season goes to new team wins a SB. Why would LA trade a young QB with winning regular season record who had been to SB and had 3 playoff wins and draft picks for a reg. season/playoff loser like Stafford BECAUSE PAST PERFORMANCE doesn't dictate future success or how far you can go. THIS SHOW IS REALLY DUMB especially since it claims to be analytics based.

  • @klohr311
    @klohr3113 ай бұрын

    kirk got his retirement money and atl has $100 mil problem. lol

  • @jdk370
    @jdk3703 ай бұрын

    When your GM checks all the boxes except the one where he knows WTF he is doing.

  • @slidegee8227
    @slidegee82273 ай бұрын

    I cant wait for the falcons to prove you’re cute little stats wrong

  • @HermsWorldWide

    @HermsWorldWide

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes cause as we all know, falcons are a historical power house 😓

  • @CartezNetwork

    @CartezNetwork

    3 ай бұрын

    They kinda agree with it and they’re friends with our oc

  • @JediMentat

    @JediMentat

    3 ай бұрын

    Never bet on the falcons...

  • @user-mp6dl7wc9z
    @user-mp6dl7wc9z3 ай бұрын

    What if after 2 years Kirk Cousins is playing at a top 10 level? 57 million will be cheap for a top 10 QB in 2 years you get that right. You don't just automatically release a top 10 QB for a QB when QBs taken in 1st round bust at an 80 percent level. And the cap will have gone up significantly in 2 years THIS IS A VERY BAD TAKE!!!!

  • @natureredux1957

    @natureredux1957

    3 ай бұрын

    Well you do when they are 38yrs and older. You have a better chance of wining both the Powerball and the Mega Millions in the same week as oppose to Kirk remotely playing at a top 10 level at the age of 38.

  • @user-mp6dl7wc9z

    @user-mp6dl7wc9z

    3 ай бұрын

    @@natureredux1957 age doesn't matter QBs have performed at that age - Kirk's body lacks the wear and tear of 4 years of NOT playing football

  • @user-mp6dl7wc9z

    @user-mp6dl7wc9z

    3 ай бұрын

    @@natureredux1957 QBs don't have an expiry date Kirk has a very strong body he has no history of injuries he takes care of his body he also lacks the wear and tear of 4 years of playing because he didn't start until 4 years in his body iwill be 34 not 38 do some research

  • @kennethkellett3474
    @kennethkellett34743 ай бұрын

    Kenneth diehard dedicated falcon fan an f----

  • @shankdiddy9045
    @shankdiddy90453 ай бұрын

    Kirk Cousins is a top 8 or 10 QB? in what universe is that? Career 78 wins to 70 losses 2 ties record vs teams above .500 is 16 wins to 47 losses (Think about that.. in 13 years he only won vs a team with a winning record 16 times) 1 playoff win in 13 years This is top 10?... yall are insane with this overrating Kirk Cousins. This is a average QB. How do people come to the conclusion he a top 10 QB? HOW DID HE MAKE THE FALCONS A AUTOMATIC PLAYOFF TEAM????? You guys are in delusion land on who Kirk Cousins is He has made it too the playoff 4 times in 13 years!!!!...... ONE PLAYOFF WIN... we have had 3 US presidents in this time.

  • @RingsWorkshop

    @RingsWorkshop

    3 ай бұрын

    Wins and losses aren’t a QB stat, they are a team stat.

  • @davaughn2376

    @davaughn2376

    3 ай бұрын

    The NFC south is a weaker division. The falcons only needed a serviceable qb the past season to make it the playoff. They haven’t won the Super Bowl like many other teams so of course they’re going to add pieces to try to win.

  • @ref233

    @ref233

    3 ай бұрын

    4 time Pro-Bowler, 2:1 TD/INT ratio. Top-3 among active QBs in terms of game winning drives and 4th quarter comebacks. Approximate value is right around QB12 for the past 9 seasons. Nearly 67% completion percentage. Average QB would be QB16, please find at least 15 QBs more successful right now than Cousins. Also, he played well in 3/4 playoff games, so it takes more than 1 individual out of 22+ starters in the team to win the playoff game. Look this past year coaches prior to O’Connell who was the only decent offensive coach he’s had in his career. Kirk is a top-12 QB right now in terms of productivity and this doesn’t include guys like Hurts, Love, Herbert, and Stroud, each of whom have had 1 good to great season. You can’t take any rookie QBs over him because none of them have played a snap.

  • @natureredux1957
    @natureredux19573 ай бұрын

    The shocking thing, Folks still Dumb enough to call this shocking. I guess when most folks only know how to play checkers while the Falcons are now playing Chess, those other folks playing checkers would never understand anyway.

  • @Edward19892
    @Edward198922 ай бұрын

    When someone takes advantage of the big board, you give them props. When someone reaches, you talk about all the ways it might work out. Are these millionaire GMs you're covering too sensitive for honest criticism? Is that why PFF is so lame when it comes to its evals?

  • @johnm2617
    @johnm26173 ай бұрын

    They will be Talking Arthur blank off a bridge in a year or two !😮😮😮

  • @user-mp6dl7wc9z
    @user-mp6dl7wc9z3 ай бұрын

    OMG YOU DON"T HAVE TO PICK FROM THE SLOT YOU GET do you know what teams do all the time to get QBs they TRADE UP SF BUF CHI KC etc etc all traded up to get their top 10 QBs ATL could do this too you're not DOOMED to pick from the slot you're slotted in even MIN moved up this year LOLOLOLOLOL this is the lowest IQ take on the trade I have seen PFF is a joke

  • @ATLfalcons808
    @ATLfalcons8083 ай бұрын

    Everyone crying cause the falcons messed up the draft😂😂 or took your qb😂😂 Falcons wins this draft and everyone crying

  • @carltonfaldo2975
    @carltonfaldo29753 ай бұрын

    Its literally 9 minutes of pedantic prattle

  • @PatriarchyPatrol
    @PatriarchyPatrol3 ай бұрын

    Their FO chose Raheem Morris over the greatest DC in NFL History when their defense is the problem 😂😂😂

  • @JN-ye8qo

    @JN-ye8qo

    3 ай бұрын

    Actually the offense was the problem. Defense was top 10 until week 17. The only reason the falcons were even still in games with ridder turning it over at that high rate was the defense.

  • @PatriarchyPatrol

    @PatriarchyPatrol

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@JN-ye8qotheir QB was dogshit. Cousins is top 10 if healthy.

  • @PatriarchyPatrol

    @PatriarchyPatrol

    3 ай бұрын

    @@JN-ye8qo they have no pass rusher and Bryon Murphy/Latu/Dallas were all there. Penix is a 2nd Rd Talent

  • @Dabeast1911Que

    @Dabeast1911Que

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@JN-ye8qoyou know ball

  • @ajevans1422

    @ajevans1422

    3 ай бұрын

    @@JN-ye8qoyou are right that falcons missed on the playoffs mostly due to the QB but I won’t say the defense is top 10 since they had the weakest schedule, they are about average now.

  • @quintenruckman3505
    @quintenruckman35053 ай бұрын

    The Falcons are a CLOWN SHOW! Signing Cousins is a mistake on its own. He’s 36, average at best, and coming off an achilles. Desperate franchise doing anything possible for the smallest shred of relevancy. Then instead of adding blue chip talent to an awful defense you draft his replacement?! Who’s an older prospect with massive injury history. There’s nothing that justifies that pick. If you love Penix; sign Wilkins and Young in FA then draft him and roll. If you’re going Cousins; sign him then draft Odunze to maximize your offense or take the best defensive player on your board. Doing both completely STUNTS the development of Penix and wastes YEARS of the rookie QB scale. What a joke!!!!

  • @jonabril3736

    @jonabril3736

    3 ай бұрын

    What’s your favorite team? How many super bowls they got?

  • @mlchachere

    @mlchachere

    3 ай бұрын

    Who are you again?

  • @jonathanruiz7877

    @jonathanruiz7877

    3 ай бұрын

    I agree with your take .. some good points .. If you think about the falcons like the owner might … it might go on tiers … first it is a business … then entertainment and lastly a sport .. They have been drafting a lot of flash ..good for entertainment and business down there…think having penix down there is good for that.. When it comes to competing for a Super Bowl … I think about 10 might being actually doing it

  • @Cjhilly

    @Cjhilly

    3 ай бұрын

    🤡😭 remedial take

  • @ryu-ken

    @ryu-ken

    3 ай бұрын

    It was a bad move at the moment. But if penix actually hits, no one will care at the end of the day. Big IF tho

  • @commonsense2156
    @commonsense21563 ай бұрын

    Love the Penix pick at 8 if the Falcons never signed Cousins or signed a cheap bridge.