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@OutstandingLife

3 жыл бұрын

I have an Iso and a mini but wasn’t sure the best way HOW to set up companion in a dual Atem production. I wasn’t sure where to get started but this is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you 🙏!!

@politikilter6446

3 жыл бұрын

Very helpful... though I do have one question: if you click the button on the ATEM Mini, will it change the button color status in Companion?

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

@@OutstandingLife thanks Jason!

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

@@politikilter6446 I would politely request that you re-watch the video :-)

@SailMyWay

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the detailed info on setting up Companion. I have the same ATEMs and you just simplified my switching for an upcoming gig.

I most definitely did learn - that Companion app is incredibly powerful. Wow! Thanks Joseph!

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

It really is amazing! Once you go Companion… ;-)

In case it's useful to anyone: I've been using a similar idea for awhile - I control 2 ATEM minis using Companion, but I take them both as webcams into OBS, using their separate USB C outputs. Then I have a series of scenes set up in OBS so that I can switch between the two ATEMs or view them both simultaneously - I use Macros in Companion to control the software and hardware switching at the same time. The advantage of this is A) you can use all 8 inputs from your two ATEMs since you're not daisy chaining any more and B) by using the PIP function on both devices you can display up to 4 camera feeds at once - which might be a fairly niche use case, but something I actually do regularly in my broadcasts.

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

That is awesome! Thanks for sharing!

@reyvaz2951

3 жыл бұрын

If someone has a tut on this I'll be nice if you can share

@ninguneduardo

2 жыл бұрын

This is awesome, I've been looking into whether using 2 ATEMs on 1 PC with OBS was possible, gonna order a second one then

@mesfinabraham5711

Жыл бұрын

is it possible to use USB-C out from mini to ATEM mini. We have the output port of mini not working. thinking of a way around to get a an HDMI out. Any suggestions?

@estevanlandivar8465

Жыл бұрын

are you able to record ISO with this setup?

All your videos are really informative and fun (not to mention professionally done). Not everybody knows how to explain things and your way it's spot on. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

@photojoseph

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

I love the lighting on this set💯

You win at thumbnails, bud!

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

haha thanks man! This one took a LOT of work ;-)

I learn something new every time I watch one of your videos. Thank you.

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Love to hear that!

I did it in the same way. Initially i bought a mini, used it a couple of months and then i bougth the iso. I had the option of selling the mini, but i solved my doubt making a daisy chain and use El gato. Good explanation to tune my configuration. Thank you!,

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Were you using Companion to control them? If not, then hopefully his solves an issue for you!

Thank you for making this, this is super useful to me right now!

Thanks for saving me a grand, was looking at getting rid of them for the extreme. But after this I am making it work. Great work!

This was just brilliant - Thank you - I have an ISO & PRO - and intend to get the Extreem ISO but just messing around with Companion really solved a problem especially since we are based in Africa and getting the latest gear on time takes a "little" longer

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome to hear! Glad it was helpful.

Wow, fantastic! Didn’t realize you could connect 2 Atem Mini! Cheers from Japan!

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

woohoo, great to hear! Enjoy :-)

What a great video! Glad I subscribed. Love my atem pro and preordered the new extreme so this info is awesome because I can rig them both together! Brilliant!

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Sweet!

Great video! I already use the Stream Deck and Companion software to control my ATEM Mini. I have an ATEM Extreme ISO on order, so I will definitely be trying this out. You showed me how to use the mobile interface on the iPad and iPhone! Thanks again, and keep the videos coming!

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Excellent, glad I could learn ya somethin! ;-)

Learned a lot with this video. You talk fast but explanations are clear and easy to follow. Thanks!

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

haha I do talk a bit fast… thanks for watching!

@Volleykanalen

3 жыл бұрын

@@photojoseph Not as fast as Grant on BMD, though... ;)

Thanks for the very pro explanation on this, all straight to the point and no BS, I like everything on my hardware so I sold one and bought the other, but I learn a lot on this, VERY NICE!!

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thanks!

Very slick trick, Joseph! And nicely produced.

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Bob! Glad you liked the thumbnail, too 😁

Amazing, Joseph! Thanks.

Great, simple as that, but very effective - and now I do have an answer to my question "What to do with the 'old' ATEM Mini?" and "How could I easily use and control more than four cameras with my switchers". Great as always, Joseph - greets and thanx from Germany!

@photojoseph

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Kai!

Great lesson, thankyou Joseph

Every once and a while you are so amazing words can't explain....only once and a while 😜

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂 I’ll take it!

Companion is just an awsome piece of Software :D

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

It is!! I’m somewhat embarrassed to say I only recently got into it.

That's very helpful. Thanks for that!

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome!

@PhotoJoseph Thanks for creating the video. I had come up with a similar solution several months ago but I will say yours is more elegant. You also showed me a few things to look at turning up in companion. I am using the StreamDeckXL which makes talking to multi ATEM's a little easier.

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Right on! And yeah the Stream Deck is amazing for sure. I love mine!!

Great video. Would love to see the stream deck video for sure !!!!!

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I’ll have to do that once I really settle it in. I’m still playing with the configuration.

Great explanation! Thank you!

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Companion is amazing. I use it along with VICREO Listener plugin to control my Stream Deck when using Zoom (to switch backgrounds / cameras on the ATEM as well as mute / turn on/off video and a few other Zoom options).

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Haven’t seen VICREO… so that’s just to put Companion on the Stream Deck?

Awesome I must say!

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you kindly!

You are the goat!

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Haha thank you!

@PhotoJoseph Great and very easy to follow video. 👍

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Very nice and easy expansion fix.

@photojoseph

2 жыл бұрын

👍🏻

This is a great video

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir!

I was secretly hoping for a circular saw and soldering iron....but this works! 🤪

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

I’m no Casey Neistat, sorry 😉

Well my brother from another mother you just made my day. thank you very much. God Bless. NLG Griff Audio

@photojoseph

2 жыл бұрын

haha that's awesome, Nigel! The funny thing is that Blackmagic released the ATEM Extreme line the same day I released this video. Oh well!!

@just1as2i3am

2 жыл бұрын

@@photojoseph Wow you keep up the great work, I watch your channel often, Stay safe

I've had my studio setup this way with an ATEM Mini Pro and an ATEM Mini for about a month and it's awesome! When I upgraded to the Pro I wondered what I was going to do with my original mini and my brain instantly said, "use it as extra inputs Michael." haha Loved how easy it was to setup the Companion app to run the Marcos and switch the inputs. I call my primary, ATEM Master, and the secondary, ATEM Slave. Great walkthrough Joseph!

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Right on! Yeah this is a pretty cool way to do the switching!

Excellent !

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

In regards to having 2 red buttons, I did not find a way to disable the color but you could add instance feedback to the 3 buttons 1,2 and 3 actions that would turn the ATEM 4-7 buttons to preview. You would end up with only one red button with the button on the ATEM 4-7 being green. Maybe not the cleanest way, but would make it easier to quickly figure out which input in active.

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Oh that’s an interesting approach… thanks!

@palles1972

3 жыл бұрын

Palle sørensen for 6 sekunder siden Hi solution for 2 red buttons lit. camera 1 atem: Change colors from mixer program tally camera 1 red atem: Change colors from mixer program tally camera 2 black atem: Change colors from mixer program tally camera 3 black atem: Change colors from mixer program tally camera 4 black camera 2 atem: Change colors from mixer program tally camera 2 red atem: Change colors from mixer program tally camera 1 black atem: Change colors from mixer program tally camera 3 black atem: Change colors from mixer program tally camera 4 black and so on

@andreas-wismann

3 жыл бұрын

Could that work: Switch Atem #2 to "Black" with Companion? Then you'd have no physical red button on Atem #2 while the channel is not in use by Atem #1

@palles1972

3 жыл бұрын

@@andreas-wismann camera 1 atem: Change colors from mixer program tally camera 1 red atem: Change colors from mixer program tally camera 2 black atem: Change colors from mixer program tally camera 3 black atem: Change colors from mixer program tally camera 4 black camera 2 atem: Change colors from mixer program tally camera 2 red atem: Change colors from mixer program tally camera 1 black atem: Change colors from mixer program tally camera 3 black atem: Change colors from mixer program tally camera 4 black and so on

Great video, thanks! What happens if you open the multiview output on the ATEM Mini Pro ISO? It doesn't show all 7 sources probably, or does it? What is the best way to view all sources in this setup with 2 mixers? I ordered a ATEM SDI Pro Iso recently and think an additional ATEM SDI might be an option. Maybe with additional HDMI to SDI bidirectional converters for my pockets I could use a monitor with multible HDMI inputs while I feed the SDI signals into the mixers.

I remember back in you had a dispute with Max Yuryev, and I wrote you off as... well I didn't subscribe to your channel. But now, thanks your collabs with Aaron Parecki, I've re-discovered you and your channel, and you have a lot of well presented info!

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

LOL the thing with Max was fun. I’m glad you’re back, thanks!

Excellent video PJ! I just subscribed to you! Question: will my ISO be able to record the added ATEM mini-buttons for Resolve to see?

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the sub! No, the ISO most definitely will NOT record the switching on the ATEM Mini. As far as it's concerned, it's just sitting on input 4.

Awesome

Thank you Joseph, before I didn't really know what companion was really for and how powerful it is. As I saw that you can bring back a status to a mobile device it raises a question for me. Is it possible to send send the status of something to multiple mobile phones in an "read only" mode? I mean can I build a tally system with it and send the information which cam is in preview and which on program to another smart phone? I have a few old Android phones and could mount one on each camera, would that work?

You can do the same with the preview buttons and control it via the elgato streamdeck. Here you can use macros for cut und auto. As this is network based it works any pc in the same ip-area

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

I haven’t used the stream deck to control the ATEM directly; only via Companion. Does the stream deck have a dedicated ATEM software module? Either way, the stream deck costs $$ while Companion is free. So I started there.

@thomaskistner

3 жыл бұрын

@@photojoseph The stream deck supports companion and many other apps, included h2r. You can tell by the buttons-colour the state (ie cam2 green for preview) and control any macros of the atem and toggle a downstreamkey as well. It is also useful for editing software like resolve. I have used it live several times and met it first by a clip by John Barker - kzread.info/dash/bejne/iqJtl66udpneZqw.html

Question: been waiting to get that Webcaster X2 from your previous video, but it is still out of stock. I need a portable way to encode and stream live from either ninja v, or our cameras canon xf400 or sony a7s3. Thx (without use of laptop)

I would suggest to use video clips and title overlays from the pro and use the mini for cameras as it could get a bit messy with overlays and graphics coming in from the second device.

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely

Very Good Video! Have you done any work on Ross Carbonite Black Solo? Great Video and I am doing this now because I also have Two HyperDecks and Companion gives me complete control of all the devices. Two bad I have 8 imnpujts in my ATEM MINI PRO using 2 in and 1 out switches. Need to add an ATEM Extreme and sell my ATEM MINI PRO! Replace all thsoe Switches

@photojoseph

2 жыл бұрын

Never heard of Ross Carbonite. Looked it up. Jesus that’s expensive for a 1080p switcher.

Hey I remembered this video and thought it might be interesting to have the new atem extreme sdi with an extreme

@photojoseph

2 жыл бұрын

That would make a cool combo!

BRILLIANT! As always! If you allow few questions please. Can this be done with 2 ATEM Mini Extreme ISO in order to have 15 inputs? Would you be able to add MixEffect to use it with this fantastic idea? I understand that MixEffect just can control 1 ATEM at a time, so eventually i would need to have 2 iPads running MixEffect each one? Thanks in advance Have a Productive and Healthy Day!

@photojoseph

2 жыл бұрын

Combing two ATEM extremes would work yes. As far as controlling through mixeffext; I’m not sure if you’d need two iPads if you also use Companion. I just scrubbed this video and he has configuration for multiple ATEMs set up. Watch this and see if you can do what you want: kzread.info/dash/bejne/oaifp6aHZ9C1XcY.html

@freddymiguelponce

2 жыл бұрын

@@photojoseph AWESOME! Thank you! Have a GREAT day!

Love it! I might be incorrect but wouldn’t you want to switch the order of the MINI and ISO companion commands so that in the case of packet loss you don’t accidentally select whatever was last sent to 4-7? Also is there a visible couple of frames during the pre-switch between actions in the current layout you exemplified?

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

I set the order the way I’d do it manually. You could add a slight delay in between commands (I’d add a full frame delay, so if 30fps then 1/30s or 33+ ms delay) to be safe, and I almost did that in the demo, but in testing I never saw a glitch so left it out.

@ethanalloway5946

3 жыл бұрын

@@photojoseph got it! Thanks for the explanation!

Thanks a lot of uploading this video!😄 Your video really helped me in many problems LoL. May I ask you an question please? I am using ATEM mini pro ISO and ATEM mini pro. I want to use these two in dual. But the problem is, at ATEM mini pro ISO, I want use usb ‘c’ type to record and in ISO pro, I want to connect the computer- is it able?

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

No. It only has one USB port, and that can be used for either recording to a connected drive, or feeding into a computer. But not both. It's a host/guest protocol switch. The Extreme however has two USB ports so it can do both.

Hi Joseph, I am new on your channel. Greetings from Poland ;-) . Very useful tips, appreciate that! Thanks! Just setting up my home studio and a bit struggling with proper Frame. I have a question What lens (in full frame measurements) you have used for that video?

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome, Artur! I'm pretty sure this lens was shot on a 24-105 zoom, so I really couldn't ell you the exact focal length. Probably somewhere between 50 and 80mm though.

Thanks for the video. I took the easy way out and just made the direct connection though. One question though - if I don’t have a network connection on my second ATEM, will I loose the audio?

@photojoseph

Жыл бұрын

Network has nothing to go with audio but if you don’t have both on the network then you can’t build any chording of commands (i.e. 4+1)

@FirstBaptistChurchMesquiteNV

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I assume I will have to have an input to both audio inputs (3.5mm).

@photojoseph

Жыл бұрын

if you're bring your audio in via the 3.5mm input from a mic or mixer, then just send it to the primary ATEM. But remember audio can come from each camera via HDMI. Just depends on what you're doing.

Is there another step with the iPad to connect to the URL , I’m on the same WiFi..I’m on a pc do it need to be a Mac ? Thanks great video

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely does not need to be a Mac. Some networks are configured to separate the wifi from the wired network; could that be an issue?

What happens in regards to recording. If these 2 are connected will the iso record all the inputs?

yes!

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! back! ;-)

Thanks that's a great tip Joseph. I thought you were about to suggest plugging in an HDMI switcher to one of the inputs. This would also allow 7 inputs total (for a 4 port switcher), but it's nowhere near as elegant as this one. The only caveat is that you need to have the hardware of course. I'm not even sure if using an HDMI switcher on one of the Atem inputs would work, as perhaps it would fool the Atem into thinking the line had gone dead, when it switches. Anyone tried this? That being the case, although it's a far cheaper option, you'd always want all the inputs to the HDMI switcher to be from sources that you'd never want to switch between live. So this could be alternative views from the same location, or perhaps inputs from different video feeds (e.g. a phone containing program title slides, and a tablet with some video clips)

@photojoseph

2 жыл бұрын

It would work; the line doesn’t go “dead”. But you can’t gang actions together with Companion that way.

Enjoyed the video. After receiving my mini pro, I added a low cost 16 port HDMI switch which I use for my amateur radio (ham) digital ATV station. The HDMI switch does have a LAN/remote control so anxious to see if the Bitfocus Companion software may be use with it. I have not found any sources that won't work with the mini pro using HDMI or SDI to HDMI converters.

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

If your HDMI switcher works with Companion, let me know! That’d be huge!

@cliffordbowe9879

3 жыл бұрын

Did you get the 16 Port switch to work with companion?

@cliffordbowe9879

3 жыл бұрын

Did you get it to work with companion?

Do you have a segment that talks about switching inputs using "AUTO" transitions?

@photojoseph

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t… I suppose I should. But to use it load the input you want to transition to into preview, choose your transition, and press AUTO to activate it.

Companion is great, but you may want to change how you wire 2 Atems together. If you make the Mini the first device and feed the HDMI out into the first channel of the second device, then you take advantage of the low latency ability of the channel one electronics (intended for gaming), this also allows any source on the mini to be a PIP source in the second unit without having to do any configuration. Another benefit is the ability to have 2 concurrent PIP windows, but you have to do some configuration (directly or in companion) to make it a flexible solution.

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Nice. I wonder if that low latency would make any difference for normal switching.

@MrEmptyhead

3 жыл бұрын

@@photojoseph It makes a difference when you mix audio sources from both of the Atems as each introduces it's own latency and it's hard to compensate for it if you don't use this feature. Added benefits include retaining the Multi-View, four audio inputs, direct webcam out for one of the units as a back channel if you keep all your main presenter cams there as well.

Instead of connecting two ATEM Minis in series to a computer, I want to connect two ATEM Minis in parallel to the same computer through two separate USB ports. My computer only has 1 USB Type C port and 3 USB 3 Type A ports. In this scenario, can I use any combination of USB Type C and USB 3 Type A ports to plugin the ATEM Minis into my computer? I may need the ATEM Control Software to control the audio. Will the ATEM Control Software freak out at the presence of two ATEM Minis being plugged into the same PC? If this scenario can work, will the OBS Software recognize the two ATEM Minis as separate video inputs and have reasonable video quality for streaming?

Can still get iso record from my mini using this trick ?

Question, will you get iso files for all seven inputs? When I take the project into resolve will it create a multicam clip with all 7 of my feeds? Also will all 7 feeds show up on the monitor?

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

No… the ISO will only record what’s happening on the ISO. The ISO’s Multiview will show whatever is feeding into CAM 4, but it can’t see what’s on the other ATEM.

@everynationmarseille7215

3 жыл бұрын

@@photojoseph great video. thanks.for making it. I was also wondering about the multi view and if all 7 feeds show as one switches?

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

@@everynationmarseille7215 no multi view of all seven. Think about the MV from the main ATEM; you would only see what’s currently coming into the port 4.

@everynationmarseille7215

3 жыл бұрын

@@photojoseph ok, thanks.

@everynationmarseille7215

3 жыл бұрын

took me a second to figure it out. brain slow. :-) appreciate your quick response!

Hey! A quick question: Using this setup (Atem Mini Pro + ATEM Mini Pro Iso), is it possible to record ISO and stream at the same time? I mean: record ISO using ATEM Mini Pro ISO and streaming through ATEM Mini?

@photojoseph

Жыл бұрын

Sure but the ISO can only record what comes into the HDMI ports, so the one that captures the connected Mini Pro will only have whatever it’s currently sending.

Followed your intstructions and got the two switchers hooked up. Got to the companion section but the Atem set up software is only recognising the ISO and not the second Mini. I have the ISO connected to my Macbook Air using the USBc output on the ISO. I have nothing coming from the Mini other than the output into the ISO, any tips? Thanks for your great content.

@photojoseph

Жыл бұрын

They both need to be on the network to be used in Companion.

@algarveamplified

Жыл бұрын

@@photojoseph I tried that but companion wouldn’t connect to the mini. I had ISO and mini on same local router. It would connect to ISO but not mini.

@photojoseph

Жыл бұрын

@@algarveamplified start with the ATEM software. If one isn’t showing up on the network then connect it to usb so you can check the network settings. Make sure each has a unique IP address and both are visible in the ATEM software. Then you can add them to companion.

Great video thank you. I'm actually in this exact position having just ordered an Atem Mini to be an extra feed for my ISO. I'm deliberating selling all to switch to the Extreme as the problem I'm having which I'd hope you'd touch on is I cannot see the Atem mini on the network with the ISO connected. I think the Mini is lacking the ability to change the IP address but might be wrong. Noticing a lot of people experiencing this leaving the extreme the only logical answer. Would love to hear if you have a simple solution..

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

That's odd… by default the ATEMs are set to DHCP so they should just grab an available IP address, and both be visible in the ATEM Setup app. Are you not seeing both in there? What you can do (what I've done), if you have control of the network, is assign an IP address to the hardware based off its MAC address, so it always has the same IP. That doesn't matter for what you're doing, but in practice it's helpful for knowing where things are on the network, especially for troubleshooting. But again… not necessary for what you're doing. If you can only see one ATEM at a time in the ATEM Setup app, then that sounds like an odd network issue. Maybe a reboot of your router is all that's needed?

@tomcosgrove7240

3 жыл бұрын

The original ATEM Mini doesn't support DHCP, so you need to manually set the IP address to something that is on your network but unused by anything else. The ATEM Mini Pro ISO does support DHCP, so that will get an IP address from your router - however, it's best to set this manually too so that it doesn't change at an inconvenient time...

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

And you are correct! It'd been so long since I set this up that I forgot that the original Mini does not have DHCP. So yeah, you need to set that up manually. Also 100% agreed that it's best to have a fixed IP regardless. I assign IP addresses to my hardware via MAC address in my router, and the way the hardware is still on DHCP but it picks up the assigned address. Makes it easier to manage the addresses and not accidentally assigned the same IP to two pieces of hardware.

hello, connecting atem mini with atem mini pro does not have audio delay different from one to the other? or the two work perfectly without delay with each other, can I adjust the audio in the Obs and there will be no difference between them?

@photojoseph

2 жыл бұрын

Piggybacking doesn’t introduce any noticeable delay, although I didnt measure it. Not sure where OBS comes in in this workflow.

Now that Black Magic have released the pocket cinema 6k Pro with built in ND filters, I wonder if Panasonic will do the same with their GH6 which will hopefully be announced soon!

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Built in ND is awesome. The physical size (and shape) of that camera allows it… I wouldn't count on it on a camera as small as a GH5 though.

@Filmmaker809

3 жыл бұрын

Well rumour is there will be 3 versions of the GH6.

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

I do love the rumor mill…

@Filmmaker809

3 жыл бұрын

@@photojoseph, its not a rumor, GH6 is coming Joseph!

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

@Zack Darce I think that has to do with quality, although I don’t recall exactly. Purity of the “tinted” glass.

Can it setup lower thirds when you switch to them let's say camera on needs a name on it and camera 2 needs a different name. Or is this done with a macro? I'm looking to buy one but my footage will need race car driver names on the video I cut to

@samosborne2753

3 жыл бұрын

How I’d tackle this: - Add a video input from either OBS or QLab to the ATEM, with a green upper two thirds - Display that as Picture in Picture, but set to full screen, and add a chroma key in the ATEM software to remove the green upper thirds - Set up macros in the ATEM to switch to Cam1 and display video input in full screen PIP - Use Companion to make 1 button that runs the macro and triggers the appropriate graphic in OBS or QLab (both can receive OSC triggers from Companion)

@speedwaycarcams

3 жыл бұрын

@@samosborne2753 I was going to use the HDMI out from the switcher into obs. So I had more control on the final output that would go out rtmp

@samosborne2753

3 жыл бұрын

@@speedwaycarcams In which case you can still do my suggestion, just without outputting OBS into the atem: - Set your OBS scenes to include the atem and graphic - Ignore the macro and PIP - Set companion to change ATEM program camera selection and change the OBS scene to the correct graphic at the same time

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Macros would absolutely work. You set up two lower thirds as graphics, and then a macro loads input 1 and graphic 1, and another macro loads input 2 and graphic 2. Super easy! I'm actually going to be recording a series of short tips on ATEM and this will be one of the first ones to go out. It gets asked a lot!

@speedwaycarcams

3 жыл бұрын

@@photojoseph awesome I could use it for sure.

I’m not sure if I missed it but if I’m using two Pro ISOs, would I lose the ability to have it recorded on an SSD drive as one project for Davinci Resolve? Thanks.

@photojoseph

11 ай бұрын

Yes you would

Can I use a scenario when two ATEM Minis controlled simultaneously to have two different HDMI outputs? They would have same inputs, each through a HDMI splitter.

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Sure, that’d work

How about the ISO functions? To record my switchings? 🤔

@GoranStepic

3 жыл бұрын

Following

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

The ISO will only record what happens on itself, not on the other unit. There’s no communication between the two. If you need that level of functionality then I think the Extreme ISO is in your future!

Can you connect to five together to make a 16 output switcher?

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Yes you could

I understand how all this works but I don't understand one thing.... How are you switching to different Cameras/Feeds when there aren't any HDMI's connected to the Switchers? I get that the Ethernet is somehow bringing them in but How? Do you have a video for that?

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

The ATEM doesn't care if there's anything plugged into the input or not. It loads CAM 1 whether there's anything plugged into it or not.

What about preview?

Does PREVIEW buttons work when using multiview?

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, absolutely. That’s where it is most handy because you can SEE the next shot.

The Atem Mini Pro Extreme announce this features and 2 usb c port !

I want to do this with my ATEM Television Studio - original and an ATEM Mini. Will it work?

@photojoseph

5 ай бұрын

Yes!

Awesome video! Is there a way to monitor all seven inputs?

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

No, because even if you had two Pro/Pro ISOs, you’d be using the only HDMI out of the second one as the Program out. You would be able to see what it’s set to in input 4 of the multiview on the main ATEM though. Just not all of them at once.

@danielbramos1050

3 жыл бұрын

@@photojoseph Thanks! That’s what I thought but just wanted to confirm.

is there a way to add security / PIN to Web Buttons and Mobile Buttons?

@photojoseph

Жыл бұрын

You can add a password to access the Companion system, yes. Not to individual pages though.

I have a Atem Mini pro that I use in my corporate keynote 3 camera presentations that I do. I am thinking about ordering the extreme in order to get a high resolution copy of the presentation. Because the usbc port is already being utilized by zoom my current setup won’t work. Would just another Atem accomplished what I want to do? Thanks

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

No. You would need that second USB port. Or, here's another trick which I'll do a video on soon… since you have the Pro, if you're not already using the built-in streaming encoder to stream to KZread or wherever, then buy a Streaming Bridge geni.us/ATEMbridge and an HDMI to USB converter, and stream to your local bridge from the ATEM, looping that back in as a webcam.

@BodybreakHal-Jo

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Hey Joseph, my HDMI out put and two inputs and enthernet are not working, is there a way we can fix this using the software?

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a hardware problem. Email blackmagic support!

!QUESTION!: Is there a way to give the Atem Mini the same features as the ISO? I would rather not spend 500 bucks on an ISO when the mini is 160 used just to be able to record each stream individually if there is a work around. Thanks

@photojoseph

Жыл бұрын

You can record in-camera (assuming your cameras are capable of outputting HDMI and recording internally simultaneously), or you could insert a recorder between each camera and the ATEM, but those are about $500 each, at least. Either way you wont have the switching data recorded. And don’t forget the live streaming encoder. Stand alone ones are at least a couple hundred bucks. So you see… the ISO models are a bargain.

@kiddgroovy

Жыл бұрын

@@photojoseph thank you for your reply. I've already spent so much money this is literally the last thing I need... But I guess I'll just have to cough up the 400 bucks and deal with it.

Will this work old atem hardware and software....e.g. those first old ATEM AND ATEM1

@photojoseph

4 ай бұрын

Yes

Any chance you can figure out a way to be able to stream and record at the same time on the Mini Pro ISO?

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

But you can… that’s what it’s designed for! Stream to KZread, Facebook etc., via the built-in encoder. I am guessing you’re streaming from OBS or something, getting the signal via the USB port?

@frontfoot1035

3 жыл бұрын

@@photojoseph streaming out of the usb-c to the computer which means I can't plug in an external drive to the usb-c to record

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Do you need to use the computer?

@frontfoot1035

3 жыл бұрын

@@photojoseph hmm, is there another way to stream to like zoom?

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Ah, ok. If you’re using zoom, that’s not “streaming”, that’s “webcam”. There is a way but it requires more hardware. Use the ATEM’s stream capability to stream to a Bridge, and feed that Bridge back into your computer with an HDMI to USB converter.

Are you able to use a hdmi switch to input 3 additional cameras into the same input on the one atem mini? 🤔

@photojoseph

2 жыл бұрын

That's basically what I'm doing here. A common switch takes a long time to switch, because it has to resync every time you change inputs, and the image usually glitches when you do it.

@elderfeliciagrayer

2 жыл бұрын

@@photojoseph Ohhhhh! I see. Your process is more seamless. My church is looking for a simple way to add two more cameras with additional switcher. We were thinking of using a generic switch. I guess it's worth a test with hdmi transmitters and receivers. Thank you for your reply! I really appreciate it.

How does this work with a monitor for preview?

@photojoseph

2 жыл бұрын

It really doesn’t once you move to the second ATEM. At the point… get an Extreme (which was launched the day after I released this video! 😂😂)

Hi, someone knows why I can't access the buttons on my Tablet? I'm a PC user. I'm connected to the same network, by etherneth and by wifi.Thanks for you're help.

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like the ATEM isn't talking to the network. Connect via USB-C to get it set up; that allows you to see everything regardless of the network connection.

@mattiacampanella

3 жыл бұрын

@@photojoseph Thanks Josepgh, I just achieved it changing the GUI interface to ethernet (wired)

Can I do this with the SDI and HDMI?

@photojoseph

Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure the new SDI models have no HDMI outputs, so you'd need an SDI to HDMI converter, but honestly I'd recommend buying an Extreme model instead, and if you still need to bring in a mix of SDI and HDMI, just use the cheap BMD 3G converters. They're only $45 each, I believe.

just an fyi you can run 2 consecutive instances of atem software and control the 2 separate Atems

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

How? Just by duplicating the app?

@JulienDeon

3 жыл бұрын

@@photojoseph hey joseph love your channel as well as @Aaron Parecki and @johnbarker/ @here to record in windows after you open the first instance you shift+right click run as different user and that allows you to have 2 or more instances of BMD software open and working even with 2 sepparate swichers! in apple os im not to sure ive heard of sand boxing and some apple apps that will allow this

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

oh wow… ok I’d heard that Windows could do that before but I don’t use a PC anywhere. Interesting! Still would require separate controls and you couldn’t build a macro that would work across both interfaces at once, although this is still interesting. I’ll have to try it on my Mac by just duplicating the app; I am often switching between two ATEMs so that would make things easier! Also if you like all three of our channels, then you’re going to love this Thursday’s event: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fI2qwcyxXa3Hf84.html

@JulienDeon

3 жыл бұрын

@@photojoseph yes i do try to keep up to date on all three channels and posted videos!

can i use my atem mini iso the same way with roland v1 HD?

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Sure: physically. Is the Roland supported by Companion though? Check their website to see! If so, then definitely.

@guribs

3 жыл бұрын

@@photojoseph Thank you so much for the quick answer. Waiting for a review of The Extreme Most enjoyable lesson

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Did you check if there Roland is supported?

Yeah I rather spend the extra money and get the Extreme after looking at this video. 😳

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Fair enough! If you have the option then that's definitely a better route. But a lot of people don't want to or can't spend the money, so this is a pretty cool alternative.

Hi solution for 2 red buttons lit. camera 1 atem: Change colors from mixer program tally camera 1 red atem: Change colors from mixer program tally camera 2 black atem: Change colors from mixer program tally camera 3 black atem: Change colors from mixer program tally camera 4 black camera 2 atem: Change colors from mixer program tally camera 2 red atem: Change colors from mixer program tally camera 1 black atem: Change colors from mixer program tally camera 3 black atem: Change colors from mixer program tally camera 4 black and so on

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Ohhhhh that’s clever! That sounds like it’d work… you’ve tested?

@palles1972

3 жыл бұрын

@@photojoseph send mail to you i haf one atem mini pro

Easy :)

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

It is easy! But not obvious… hopefully this video is helpful to someone ;-)

@HaroldKuepers

3 жыл бұрын

You can put also more inputs (Mac) by using full screen function and then swipe the screens😊

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't quite call that an input… that's just a different screen… but yes, that is totally doable!

You gotta change the 4-7 sequence around so it selects the upstream source 1st before selecting input 4 to stop the occasional flashframe that may occur if the commands go out at a frame boundary.

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

ahh, that's a great point!

Can I have laptop's?

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

If you’re asking if you can plug in a laptop… yes, via HDMI output. If you’re asking if you can have my laptop… no 😂

Biggest issue with this is the cameras on the sub-switcher will be out of sync with the other 3 because you're going through two scalers/switchers. I did this years ago with two original Television Studio models and it just isn't practical. You also can't do dissolves, you'd need some logic between the buttons and Minis to make that work, and even then it's not ideal. There's no proper multi view as well, so again, usability drops. If you need more inputs, just get a bigger switcher, you won't regret it.

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

There’s no appreciable additional delay when stacking switchers. Someone pointed out that the input from the second AREM should be on input 1 as it has a “direct” mode for low latency productions but I’ve never detected a difference between the modes. Anyway the HDMI delay hit is taken in the camera. There really should be no noticeable delay. The old TV Studio model is very old and quite different tech.

@multicamzilla4669

3 жыл бұрын

@@photojoseph There is more delay on the camera outputs, yes, but the switchers introduce at least a frame or 2 as well. If anything it'll be worse with the Minis than the older models since they have full scalers and not just frame syncs. Anyway, if you don't see the sync issues then you don't see them, but they are there. Do a clap test with two identical monitors, one on the first ATEM and one on the second, you'll see it.

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

@@multicamzilla4669 fair enough. I assume you’ve done this test on two ATEM Mini models? Anyway this video isn’t suggesting this is better than buying a bigger switcher. It’s offering a solution to more cheaply get more inputs.

@multicamzilla4669

3 жыл бұрын

@@photojoseph And all I'm saying is there are some pitfalls to be aware of that you didn't mention in the video. Your post is a great demo of Companion and that's the real value. Thanks for taking the time to make it and posting.

What we all want is something that only extreme has.... at least 2 outputs.... :(

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that I can’t help with unfortunately.

so wait... where's the tutorial on how to use this with the stream deck?

@photojoseph

Жыл бұрын

Didnt i cover that in this video?

@AmazingSpanoMan

Жыл бұрын

@@photojoseph you said that was a topic for another video.

ISO is NOT ISO! Please help us as a community. The ISO recordings are only Video ISOs!! The audio is totally corrupted, as all ISO recordings have Program mixed audio tracks. What you have to do is go into the Audio ISO folder to find the, let's say CAM 3 audio. The problem is is that there is no easy way to re-sync the ISO audio with the ISO video clip because as the audio track on the ISO video recording does not have the same waveform to referent to, because it is corrupted as a program audio mix. What's up with that? and can you tell us all how to fix this terrible oversight by Black Magic?

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

I have not seen this problem. Please make sure both the ATEM and Resolve are up to date, and report back.

@rbengraff

3 жыл бұрын

@@photojoseph I did just get off the phone with BM support and what I said is true. The ISO video files do not have discreet audio. They all have mixed program audio where as the "Audio Source Files" folder does have discreet audio tracks for each input. Where I was wrong was my panic of syncing them. They are of course perfectly trimmed to the timeline length so re-syncing them was not the issue that I thought it was. That said, unless I am missing something it does seem like an unnecessary step as posed to just having each ISO video file have it's own discreet audio. Anyway, I wanted to circle back and clarify since you took the time to reply. I also neglected to thank you for your countless hours of amazing content. Your videos have helped make me a better professional. If you ever find yourself in the upstate Albany NY area, let me know, I'll buy you a lunch!!! Until then...

@photojoseph

3 жыл бұрын

aha, I get what you're saying now… and I agree with you, that seems like an unnecessary step. And, thank you for the offer!

Can you do this with two of the same model? So two ISO's or two MINI's? Will the IP addresses be the same?

@photojoseph

Жыл бұрын

Yes you can and no they won’t - unique network devices, so unique IP addresses.