Chapters (they stop working on the video sometimes) 00:00 Intro/Explanation 00:47 Angles 02:07 Strength Projection 02:48 Lines 04:04 Flow 05:32 Groove 07:15 Efficiency 08:25 Control and Isolations Who is your favorite dancer in Ateez? Are you excited about the comeback? To those who watched my videos before, do you prefer just text and music or is it better with speech/robot voice like here?

@alexiasophiariddle4319

Жыл бұрын

My Favorite Dancer is Jongho He Just has that vibe to him and his moves are Always so Clean and make it Look easy. He is really good at krumping and i'm very excited about the Comeback

@Fremineigh

Жыл бұрын

Stuck between San/Hj/And seonghwa. Mainly because the way they dance resonates with mine lmao. But the entire group has a style that wouldn't be perfect without ones individual style 🛐💞

@Odd_ATELIER_Jane_

Жыл бұрын

Yunho , Mingi, HJ and San 🔥 i love how they dance and their dancing skills make me attract to them. But i think all the ateez members dance sooo well 💖

@kimdaniel2601

Жыл бұрын

My favorite depends a lot on the choreo/song. Seonghwa, Mingi, San and Yunho often catch my eye the most but some songs Wooyoung and Yeosang hit.

@MorePara8

Жыл бұрын

Yunho and San even tho they have very different styles and even tho Yunho's dance style is very different from my own dance style. But their strenghts make me really appreciate them.

this makes me remember someone saying that since the gap in dancing ability between each of the members is so small they may not be individually the best when ranked with other male idols but are strongest/most comparable as a team and I really think it’s true.I do notice the differences in dancing style but they somehow manage to be in sync just enough so the choreo looks harmonious.It doesn’t work for each K-pop group but for performance-centred ateez in particular it does

@facts_in_fiction

Жыл бұрын

I agree! Another thing to consider are their choreographies, they tend to be more footwork heavy than most kpop (and generally stage-) choreo, which makes it more difficult to look synchronised. That's also the reason you rarely see house and other fast, footwork focused styles on stage.

comparing how jongho used to dance in kq fellaz and the first couple years before his big leg injury to now is wild. he definitely used to have more groove and use more of his whole body but i feel like he mightve been pigeon holed into the main vocalist role so much that he legitimately can’t dance full out because (as he said in the first halazia comeback) he used a headset mic to be able to dance more and almost passed out. 💀 he sings like practically half of the whole song and his notes are so high and the pressure to sing well live every performance must be so heavy.

@allhailrise

10 ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly. Glad to see someone with the same opinion about Jongho's dancing. Edited: I still miss his dancing during KQ fellaz time to time, but I've embraced the current Jongho's style of dancing.

All ateez members said that jongho always holds back when dancing. I am glad you noticed that. You need to have a certain amount of skill to actually hold back and still look ok. When jongho goes all out he is pretty dann good.

Ahhhhhhhhhh this is such a fresh approach in ranking dance! There are so many different qualities that make up a dancer and an infinite number of ways to approach choreography. I love, love, love this video. Thank you for the hard work you put into it! Amazing content. Absolutely excited for all that comes next!

@facts_in_fiction

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Holy damn. Wonyoung and Mingi sharing 1st place for body control and isolation is just chefs kiss. They both truly deserved that 1st place, with the injuries they both have and STILL placing 1st for body control. I’ve never seen someone ranked ATEEZ more fairly than you, this truly shows how and why Yunho, Mingi and Wooyoung are called main dancers. They are incredible, truly amazing dancers those 3.

I'm commenting because I agree lol, Mingi's dancing is seriously underappreciated and I realized his supremacy in that move in The Real, which I'm glad you added in the end 10:25. Also about Hongjoong's stage presence and connection to the audience, plus pure enjoyment of performing I'd add. His fancam again from The Real on some awards is my antidepressant! I really enjoyed this video, thank you! Kept chuckling at See-onghwa 😁

@facts_in_fiction

Жыл бұрын

The pronunciation had me dying lol

@flaggov6949

Жыл бұрын

​@@facts_in_fictionMost text to speech applications have a way to specify a pronounciation. Sometimes it's in settings.

@allhailrise

10 ай бұрын

I don't think mingi's dancing is under appreciated, anyone who knows knows. In the first place, mingi is also part of performer group since the beginning (predebut show: code name ateez, he's in the team to make new choreo). It's just his rapping takes significant chunks of parts in a song/stage, so he needs to concede dancing highlight to the others to be balanced, hence is often positioned in the back.

Really spot on description of Jongho's style

Mingi has an ease to when he dances. Good dancers can make complicated moves look effortless.

Thank you for the analysis since I barely see anyone do dance analysis for ateez, it would be nice if you keep supporting them thank you 😊

@facts_in_fiction

Жыл бұрын

I also noticed the lack of analysis for them 🤔 I made a short for halazia btw, in case you want to watch!

@detergenthwachae

Жыл бұрын

@@facts_in_fiction I came here from Halazia short!

LOVED the diagramming you did with Yunho under "Angles" -> super helpful to see that especially in comparison to his members. Re: efficiency, I've also noticed how much control he has over the energy he puts into different parts of the choreo-definitely done so with intention Also adore that you put in the clip of Mingi (Minjee? lol) from the Two Step short!! He is such a pleasure to watch there and I feel like there's a bit of a mismatch between typical Ateez choreo and what he REALLY could shine in Efficiency: Jongho can REALLY dance with some swagger (esp in their KQ Fellaz pre-debut parking lot dance videos) and Ateez know it but yeah respect him for prioritizing the singing-it's just good judgment Control/isolations: Sannie and his details! One of my fav examples of this is from the intro to the Black Cat Nero music video (around 0:40), where Jongho sings, bows, and then everyone else rises up. Well actually no-everyone but San basically just stands up like a normal human, and San RISES up with hunched shoulders, zombie arms, and bowed head like an undead creature out of the grave. Love the commitment to the character. Also not sure if you're familiar with itorook!'s channel, but I really enjoy their analysis of how idol's backgrounds (i.e former swimmer, taekwondo athlete, etc) and the flexibility, muscle groups, and techniques developed there factor in to their present-day dance styles

@facts_in_fiction

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree about Mingi (rip the pronunciation lol), most kpop choreos unfortunately don't allow this type of skillset to shine. While it's the most valued for most street/freestyle dancers. And yeah I know that channel, I've seen some videos (about skz and le sserafim) and I really like the approach!

Finally some Mingi apreciation

Re-watched this after the groove video...now I know why Yeosang is my favorite dancer :) and why I have an affinity to Mingi.

Mingee ;) absolutely deserved #1 in Flow & Groove.. in Thanxx Relay Dance he was doing the steps but with his swag, like a street dancer

Thank you. I just came across your channel. I don’t know anything about the technicalities of dance-I just know what pleases me. I often find depending on the song style or choreography I prefer one member’s dance to others-probably because of their strengths. Jongho doesn’t get much attention as a dancer but he often impresses me-especially how well he steps in and out of the choreography-it’s not a dance skill exactly but I knowvI couldn’t step back into a dance like tgat.

3:55 this looks so painful... maybe it's just a personal thing, I have very loose ligaments (sry I'm not a native english speaker, idk if this is the right word), and I often twist my ankles bcs of that, it's not really twisting but excactly that thing Wooyoung does with his feet right there, and if that happens a few times in a row, it really hurts. I have very unstable feet so this happens to me often, especially when I'm running on uneven ground. I was unable to dance for over a month bcs of overworked ankles and the twisting played a role in it. I couldn't even walk without pain for a while, so I hope nothing like that happend to Woo when he was dancing Inception. He's such an amazing dancer, and I really love his style, he is one of my favourite dancers in whole Kpop. And Mingi is hella overlooked, people just ignore his amazing style. Mingi, Wooyoung and Yunho kinda remind me of J-Hope, Jimin and Jungkook, yk, Mingi and J-Hope both have this streetdance hip-hop style, Wooyoung and Jimin both have this fluid style (and both are probably my personal fav dancers from their representative group 😄) and Yunho and Jungkook both have a really clean and controlled way of dancing, which focusses more on technice than on personal style. Anyway I really like this video, I already watched it like 3 times, I always come back here bcs it's so interesting and well made and explained!

Now ill be focusing more and keep thinking bout all these explanations while seeing their MV's , a new approach for me indeed! I remembered that time when ATEEZ were assigned to make their own choreography for 'Pirate king'.

Thank you for the analysis/ateez praise they're one of the best group right now I love them so much! Their individuality is fun to watch they killed every performance 🔥

Love your analysis, currently doing a deep dive on your channel! So interesting!! Wooyoung, Mingi, and Yunho best main dancers 💕💕💕

@a.t.l400

Жыл бұрын

Is it not san the best?

@sydneyhudson4806

Жыл бұрын

@@a.t.l400 I mean, he’s got great stage presence but that’s not the same thing as dancing. So no, I don’t think so

@a.t.l400

Жыл бұрын

@@sydneyhudson4806 oh yeah because in another channel they ranked san as the best dancer in ateez

@sydneyhudson4806

Жыл бұрын

@@a.t.l400 everyone is entitled to their opinion! He certainly is a wonderful dancer, and I adore him, I just don’t think he is the best!

another facts in fiction video just as i was looking for something to watch.. i was so happy to see this (and early too, lol) some thoughts i had while watching (they vary.. kind of greatly jaja) 1. i realized it may be time for me to actually look into stuff fully defining some of the dance terms you mention here like angles and lines. Basing my understandings of them from the context of videos i've watched is something i definitely want to cut before i gets too bad lol 2. the diagrams you provided with yunho's dancing to show the angles he keeps really were useful, i also appreciate when you point out where to look specifically. it helps my (very) untrained eye get a better picture of what you're talking about, i think it's something definitely worth keeping up 3. in the flow section you did a good job with pointing out mingi too--i don't really know ateez but pointing him out helped. :) the same applies to yeosang in the groove section; if i were to recommend anything, making the arrow more saturated or have a black/white border would accentuate visibility; i had a bit of trouble seeing it on the stage clip you provided on the video as a whole though, you've provided a really insightful analysis about the technical aspects of dance once again! really appreciate the time you take into making these and sharing the information. i think the style you use of going by different categories you look at is really good too in setting base things for a viewer to consider, whether they have dance experience or not. thanks for the great upload! quick edit based on the question in your pinned too, realized i forgot to answer it here lol: i personally prefer the tts, just feels better in terms of portraying the information to me. the music can get distracting when im trying to look at the dancer & read what you wrote

@facts_in_fiction

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the thoughts and feedback! It's also important that different dancers, especially from different backgrounds don't always use terms in the exact same way, which can be confusing. And what can be considered good lines in this style wouldn't work for contemporary and so on. It still feels a bit choppy at some parts of the video with the tts, but I'll probably figure it out in the future lol

I love the analysis! Would like to see more analysis of each member and which songs they match most! ❤

Thanks so much for the effort you put in videos - I learned so much from your detailed analysis. It helped me to articulate what I liked about the dancing of each ATEEZ member.

Thank you for the explanation. Despite still dont understand the difference, really appreciate it. I can learn from this i guess. I think i know now why Mingi is my fav dancer among ateez, it's because that hip hop/street dance style. 😆

Im soo happy watching this video!

this is a great video and analysis. I found myself nodding and agreeing a lot

I really enjoyed your video (as always)! This ranking system felt quite different and I like how you ranked each of the members seperately in these sections. Now, I'm curious about how you define "body control" since I'm somewhat confused hah Furthermore, how strong do you think are each of the members individually as dancers in the kpop scene? Love your work and a late happy new year!

@facts_in_fiction

Жыл бұрын

Happy new year! Body control is a term that some of my teachers used to describe the level of clarity and control that dancers should strive for. To not lose control over arms while doing footwork, to use the correct muscle groups and to get all the details right etc. I think that they're usually accurately rated in the sense that they're all on the typical lead/main dancer level while not having anyone that is among the very top technically, they're more focused on stylistic choices and performance. I guess that's why it makes sense to make this sort of ranking for them imo, most groups would have the same one or two members in all of these categories while there is really a variety here

@leyna-rc5mr

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for replying! Everything makes so much sense lmao

thanks for this great vid!! ^_^

Wow thank you, i can feel that their dance style is different, but i don't really understand it. But you point it clearly!

i feel like i couldn't agree more. we share exactly the same ponit of view.

fun fact: during ateez trainee days jognho was always nr1 in monthly dance monthly evaluation.

Good vid!

Aaah this is so detailed and explained in such a comprehensive way a non-technical dancer like me could understand! Thank you! Was wondering if you have your own personal ranking as the best dancer for ateez?

@facts_in_fiction

Жыл бұрын

I've been a casual fan since pirate king but still never really made up my mind lmao. So no I actually don't have a ranking

Loved this! Can you make more of these for different 3rd and 4th gen groups? Txt, enhypen, Stray kids, nct, exo, bts, seventeen, etc? This was so cool and such interesting explanations. I learned a lot

@facts_in_fiction

Жыл бұрын

I think this type of video makes sense for groups with a variety of different dance styles within the group, so I'll possibly make one for svt or nct in the future! For exo I'm doing a regular ranking video soon

I hope you do something like this for Dreamcatcher someday! They have worked with the same choreographer continuously for many years and their choreo has an emphasis on power and synchronization since their music is rock and metal-influenced, but we’ve been able to see them do fun things like Maroon 5 covers pre-debut (and pre-Minx) and some members have improved dramatically, while SuA is still the undeniable standout since she’s also the most versatile.

@aeongies

Жыл бұрын

i was just about to comment the same thing! it would be so great to see a video like this about dc :)

i love this analysis so much! i dont know too much about dance but obviously i can understand visually that each member does certain things differently. hongjoong, mingi, and yunho are the ones who catch my eyes the most! btw any chance you would do a dance analysis on the seventeen members? or at least the performance team members? i know they usually focus on synchronization but i would love to see an analysis on their individuality that shines through. there aren't any that videos on youtube that focus on the members individually

@facts_in_fiction

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking about doing something like that in the future, but I'm not sure yet what exactly it will be either. I wanted to do a video on street vs studio style, where the8 and dino would make a good example imo

Your videos are so good i came across your channel today only i am subscribing for sure 👌🏻👌🏻 this is a really good ranking i loved how you explained everything & totally can see why the person is ranked in that position... I am new atiny so i am still learning but so far my favourite dance wise are Wooyoung & seonghwa... The music kinda threw me off sometimes lol 😅 Anyways have you done one for straykids too ???

@facts_in_fiction

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback, I'm still trying to figure out the best way to edit vids haha. Also I've only done a short on ranking stray kids so far, but maybe I'll do a video in the future

@shubhras

Жыл бұрын

@@facts_in_fiction oh ! If possible please do one for straykids.. i don't know the terms so it was very interesting to see.. also thank u for not taking my remarks in a bad way 💕( i debated if i should say it or not in case it sounded rude 😅)

Wooyoung still carrying the big hit blood😂

What exactly are lines? I used to think it's the same as angles but it seems to be a different category

@facts_in_fiction

Жыл бұрын

Angles are mostly the correct angles in the choreo (like arms in 45° or 90°) while lines is the overall shape and extentions, they can be curved, should be harmonious when looking at it from any perspective. There are different "rules" depending on the style. In the video I linked in the beginning I'm explaining it a bit more, maybe that could help 😅

@suchismithakn

Жыл бұрын

@@facts_in_fiction ohh I see, thank you!

What do you mean by lines? 😊

@facts_in_fiction

Жыл бұрын

You can imagine drawing lines along the limbs/body of a dancer, good lines and extensions tend to be harmonious, have shapes or an aesthetic.

@loving_you_stay

Жыл бұрын

@@facts_in_fiction ooh okay thank you

Hongjoong is the best dancer for me 😍

Rank SuperM!

@user-fu2jj3pl3o

3 ай бұрын

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