Those P6T are hard beasts, not only to repair: they are extremely sensitive and, to my experience, sometimes require bios reset and/or multiple power cycles just to detect different ram/cpu.

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I have noticed that! Yesterday I was testing some video card and at some point the board died (no post codes anymore). It required a BIOS reset to come back to life which was weird... Thanks for watching!

@christopherjackson2157

Жыл бұрын

Can confirm ;)

@JohnSmith-iu8cj

Жыл бұрын

My first P6T died in when I added an additional case fan. I have no idea how that was possible. I am almost certain that I didn’t do anything else other than attaching the cable to the fan header.

@christopherjames9843

3 ай бұрын

Gigabyte X58 enthusiast boards are super finicky.

@thewayback_playback

2 ай бұрын

@@JohnSmith-iu8cj This happened to me yesterday - my long running P6T Deluxe v2 (16 years old mobo) suddenly decided to start power cycling after trying to change out a hard drive (which I've done numerous times with this mobo).

QPI is a abbreviation for Intel QuickPath Interconnect which is used for connecting the CPU with the PCH (Platform Controller Hub)

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I love your transparency when it comes to stuff you have never done before.

@tony359

3 күн бұрын

thank you! I'm not very good at pretending :)

Between bent pins, dirty socket, bad memory and bit rot on the BIOS, that motherboard was a hot, angry potato. Great work.

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

Oh you think the bios had bit rot? I didn’t consider that, I thought it was just a bad version but that’s very possible. Thank you for watching!

The QPI port is a point-to-point connection protocol developed by Intel to replace the front-side-bus (FSB) . It is a fast internal general-purpose bus that is used to transfer data between processors and to give access to the uncore of the CPU . QPI is used in multi-processor configurations to carry cache coherency traffic and to connect the processor to the IO Hub . It is an element of a system architecture that Intel calls the QuickPath architecture that implements what Intel calls QuickPath technology . QPI is designed to be low latency and high bandwidth to make access to other CPUs' uncore and every resource available in the uncore perform well . QPI is not used to access memory, but it is the link through which the cache coherence between sockets occurs . The QPI port is used in Xeon, Itanium, and certain desktop platforms

@tony359

8 ай бұрын

Amazing thank you!

Thanks for ventoy info. Great video Tony

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching!

Great video Tony. As it happens, I just got my old X79 mobo out to play with, and it's doing the power cycle thing you were seeing.Time to test for shorts/battery I think. Cheers.

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

I hope you can fix that. My understanding is that the IC looking after the power on/off is basically powered by the battery. On some configurations, if the battery is not delivering 3V, then the IC doesn't power up properly. Which is weird as you have 5V coming from the PSU so you'd expect that to be enough even with no battery. Good luck and thanks for watching!

Thanks for fixing it!!! ❤

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome! Now the difficult task to return it to you in one piece! :)

The movie with a happy end :) Once I spent two days finding what was wrong because I thought a bios dump looked good for me but finally flashed an image downloaded from a site. And it totally revived that motherboard

Quite the diag and fix sir!

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Great effort to solve the issue, Tony! Your tutorial is as informative as ever, packed with useful information. 👍

@tony359

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for your kind words and for watching!

Nice job Tony, still a capable system!

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

It is, very usable even though finally the technology has picked up a bit and those old systems begin to be a bit too old :) Thanks for watching!

@ted-b

Жыл бұрын

@@tony359 I'd put 3 x 1GB RAM sticks in and turn it into an awesome XP gamer!

Nice video and a happy end😊. I am very interested in that repair of the GF 480. Thank you very much

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! It will take a little bit as I want to finish the PS/2 first! But watch this space! Thanks for watching!

Great video, Tony! I love your perserverence. That bad DIMM combined with CPU pin contact issues certainly complicated things! That bent pin was something else! I'm impressed you got it straightened out as well as you did 😅 .. I remember being very excited when the first generation "core" CPUs and the X58 chipset were released. It was really quite impressive at the time. From what I recall, QPI is Intel's "Quick Path Interconnect" which was exclusive to the higher-end CPUs and chipsets (as well as server stuff) at the time. It's basically a high speed interface between the CPU and the X58 northbridge chipset if I'm not mistaken. It allowed for a high-speed communication channel between CPUs in multi-socket systems too. Don't quote me on any of that though, my memory may be deceiving me! I seem to recall that the more mainstream Core i5/i7 socket 1156 stuff didn't use QPI (or need to) because the PCI-express controller moved into the CPU.

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Indeed it was one of those projects where every day you turn on the motherboard and it's like spinning the lotto wheel: what will we have today? :) Funny to work on though, it would have been boring had it been as simple as cleaning the back of the CPU. Thanks for the QPI details, quite interesting. Indeed that was a great series, my 2600K lasted me 10 years! Thanks for watching!

@vswitchzero

Жыл бұрын

@@tony359 Haha I know that feeling well. There is nothing worse than an intermittent problem when it comes to troubleshooting! 🙂

Very interesting you have that board. I had a P6T-SE for a very long time. Up until 2017 or so. Haven't watched the vid yet but I heard you say memory and I assume that was also the issue with mine. With it being triple channel leads to a lot of complication. If you can get an i7-930 D0 revision you can get up to 4ghz on them OC iirc.

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

Good to know, thanks! I think the board is going to be used for some light use, some sort of board retirement :) But I can see the board could likely handle a heavy overclock, maybe with a better heatsink though! I hope you enjoy the video at some point! :)

@sokoloft3

Жыл бұрын

@@tony359 Just finished it. Yeah mine was flakey like that one. However recently I tested the ram from the system since I kept it and they had errors. Was a 6gb set. I still have the LGA 1366 AIO radiator and pump that was on it.

Good video. I'm working up the courage to fix one of my PCs that won't boot when a RAM is inserted into a specific slot. I have been using it with less memory for a year 😅

@tony359

5 ай бұрын

interesting fault! Try some contact cleaner and I'd also re-seat the CPU given what I discovered in this very video! Good luck and thanks for watching!

Hello, thank you very much, I can't find the electrical diagram of this board and through your video I found it, thank you very much

@tony359

5 ай бұрын

You're very welcome!

For this oily stuff. you should FLIP the board over and inspect under the micro system. See if there is any damage. Sounds like liquid damage has occurred and its still under the CPU socket. The fan is or!!! you have a small hole in the board and the heat exchange is EJECTING out the residue. TRUST me this can happen. Such problem was found in a dell laptop by a mosfet. Flip the board over and major amount of corrosion was found. Yes a hole was present on the main side and not the backside

@tony359

8 ай бұрын

Very interesting, thanks for that! I don't have that board anymore, I believe I took a look at the back and I don't remember seeing anything nasty but good idea! Thanks for watching!

I have had many of these boards and all kinds of memory up to 48GB ECC, and also know all the problems you had. They appear on up to 50% of the boards I had.

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

Interesting. So it seems the platform was a bit picky when it came to RAM. So I suppose the latest BIOS played an important role in fixing this board! Thank you for watching!

the earlay X58 bioses where really sucking. And as i remember its a good idea to replace thermalpaste on the northbridge. They tend to overheat and break from that.

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking of disassembling that long heatsink with heat pipe but it felt like asking for trouble! :) I might consider doing that though. Thanks for watching!

@gorjy9610

Жыл бұрын

@@tony359 you really don't want to skip it, most of these board end up dead because of overheated NB.

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

interesting, thanks!

Did you notice the Corsair ram sets are 2 different clock speed variants ? One set is 1333MHz and the other set is 1600MHz, clearly seen in the first part of your video where you give a close up of the ram modules. I have a suspicion that some memory controllers (here the CPU itself) does not work properly with mixed clock speed memory modules. Thanks for the video !

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

ohhh no I did not! LOL! I believe the CPU will query all modules and find a compatible speed (hopefully 1333Mhz) but you're totally right. One module is definitely gone and the system works with only 5 of them but I guess that was another reason for the system to misbehave at the beginning! Thanks for pointing that out and for watching!

@davidvishloff6383

Жыл бұрын

@@tony359 If you could set memory frequency in the BIOS it might have been possible to manually set 1333mhz, but bad RAM is still bad RAM.

@rasz

Жыл бұрын

@@tony359 I think new bios defaults to slowest because your later memtest runs are all 2GB/s slower (9.8GB/s vs 11.7GB).

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

That's interesting! That said, I'm using a different RAM in the end which I think is ECC hence slower. Still, I'd rather have a stable, slower system than a faster but unstable one! Given the age of this system, speed probably doesn't matter anymore :) Thanks for your comment!

@especialistqap

Жыл бұрын

I have this ram never run in 1600 mhz only 1333

Btw, that black dirt is common to see when a system is either in an industrial environment or around someone who smokes a lot or for a long period of time around the PC. I have seen it many times especially with GPU fans but have seen it occasionally with CPU sockets and fans.

@tony359

Ай бұрын

AFAIK that belonged to a normal household :) But I guess it can happen if you don't clean your system for years! Thanks for watching!

nice efforts sticking with it, what a dirty socket, all those issues with the pins was crazy. one thing is the 1366 socket is very sensitive to overtightening causing memory channel dropout, but that cooler shouldnt cause that. also x58 supports 8gb sticks so you can run 48gb

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

Really? The manual says 12GB, Kingston says 24GB. I don't have 8GB sticks so I cannot test more I'm afraid. But that is cool to know, thank you! Indeed the socket was in need of TLC but I do feel the latest BIOS played an important role in making it reliable! Thanks for watching!

@r4z4m4t4z

Жыл бұрын

@@tony359 when that manual got wrote they didnt have 8gb sticks yet, but more ram would be wasted on that 4 core cpu. get him a 980x, that would compete with your 2600k, and heat there room a bit.

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

ahah, well I could feel the heat already with the 940!

That is why I hate LGA sockets, if you drop the CPU accidentally on the socket the pins deform extremely easily... Could this bend pin shorting on another one and killed that RAM stick? Also try to install an LGA type of CPU vertically when the motherboard is already mounted inside the tower case, and probably this is the bent pin case here, someone tried to install a new cpu on the board vertically and the cpu jumped out of the correct position on the socket, lowered the lever to close the trap and the cpu bent the pin with one of the small components at its center cause I also saw a trace of a pin engraved on the grey socket plastic there just beside the crashed pin. Maybe they tried to reform it with a small screwdriver and made it look like a J hook who knows. Great video very interesting cheers from Greece! Jim

@tony359

9 ай бұрын

Thank you! Yes, LGA are delicate, you can't rush it or install vertically! :) I don't think the RAM stick was killed by that, after all I think it's all low voltage going into that socket, I don't think there is anything which could have killed an IC. Weird indeed!

I still have two I bought used, one running a used i7 980x and one running a used X5650, both OC'd to 4.0GHz. They are sensitive with memory timings and voltages.

@tony359

9 ай бұрын

Yes you're not the first one reporting that - and I feel the latest BIOS did a good job in improving on that! Thanks for watching!

I really hated the P6T, had issues with one from the day I bought it brand new. Memory errors, CPU not being recognized, Sata not being initialized. Eventually replaced it with new P6T but after 3 months I replaced that again with a gigabyte motherboard under warranty. First and last time I had a computer shop build a pc for me but it helped me with the warranty.

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

ahahah, yes it felt like a problematic board indeed, even ignoring the damaged socket! Those 17 BIOS versions on Asus' website might have something to do with that! LOL Thanks for watching!

I have fixed a few LGA pin arrays by bending pins back into place ... what a fiddly process I hate doing it. I need to get a microscope that looks like it makes it so much easier.

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

My eyes would have fallen under my workbench if I didn't have the microscope! :) Thanks for watching!

I recommend an Intel Xeon X5670: 6 cores, 12 threads, 32nm node. Board runs reliable with six Kingston 4GB modules.

@tony359

11 ай бұрын

Amazing thanks! The board is back with its owner, I'll let him know. Thanks for watching.

@sirfairplay9153

7 ай бұрын

you can use 8GB modules as well

Trouble-shooting ram is always complicated. There's a lot of autoconfiguration that happens during the boot process that you don't have access to in user software So you a hidden source of error that can complicate ur diagnostics

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

it's true, so many variables. And I have a feeling that newer systems are getting more and more complex on that subject. Thanks for watching!

QPI is some kind of a southbridge/memory controller that was kind of unique to this cpu/chipset generation

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I’ve seen bit rot with BIOS on older boards. I always try to update the BIOS if possible as a first step.

@tony359

Ай бұрын

Yes, it's probably a good idea to re-flash the bios just as a precaution, thanks!

Hi nice video and you are well equipped !! my p6T v2 has the chassis intrusion troubleshoot although i've set correctly the jumper on 2-3 pin as per doc. All the rest runs super well, xeon x5670 Corsair vengeance DUAL mode 2x8gb 1600Mhz is detected fine. And even windows 11 with skipped TPM Checks runs perfectly. So it's such a shame! i've to unplug:/replug 3volt battery everytime (it's a new one) as bios will always only detect chassis intrusion...and not register my modifications. i am a bit stuck there, there's certainly a faulty transistor somewhere not passing through the 3 volts from the battery...but hell.. where ?

@tony359

Ай бұрын

Ah, good question. That's one of the reasons why I like working on older stuff, you can SEE things :) Good luck and thanks for watching!

I think the corrosion comes from a leaky AIO or custom loop. The chemicals in the liquid can be corrosive.

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

Oh yes, the glycol is very corrosive. I'm not sure it's ever been used on this board but I guess there is no way to know 100%. I hope I managed to flush it away! Thanks for watching!

Nice video. What is the name of software used to show the motherboard view?

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Oh sorry I forgot to link the software and most importantly the motherboard schematics. The software is boardview boardviewer.net/ I’ll add the motherboard schematic later on. Thanks for watching!

I have a Gigabyte X58 running a 930. It also seemed to stop posting recently & I just assumed it had a bad module, so pulled 3 out. Testing showed all 3 work fine. Now I'm curious to do a full inspection of the socket & see if I need to order a replacement LGA socket (or board)

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully it's just some dirt under the CPU! Good luck!

@clintcolombin

Жыл бұрын

The worst part is I’m using that rig as my workbench pc for downloading drivers etc. it’s meant to be the stable one

I recently learned a trick. If you suspect the ATX CPU connector is at fault. Disconnect all power to the board. Short pin colors green with black. This signal wire activates the ATX power fan. Thus enbaling the usage of ATX to probe testing. Test the ATX PCU power lines. Now you can read 12volts. Reconnect the cables to the board. If computer fails to start. Suspect that the signal wire on the mobo to be at fault. This is what has happened to my P6TD. PSU fan does not turn on. system totally dead. Trying to figure out why.

@tony359

7 ай бұрын

"jump starting" the PSU is a good starting point. However, if there is a short on the motherboard, the PSU will also fail to turn on. A Power Supply can also work without a load (with the board disconnected) but fail to work under load. You should see the fan spinning for a moment though. If the PSU fails to show signs of life, then it could be that the motherboard is not telling it to power up as you say. I think I had this issue with this P6T, it was intermittent. And it was the main reason my friend sent me the board I think. Try a new battery, some boards need it to even start. Also try resetting the BIOS (you can remove the battery and wait 1 minute as well). Also try re-seating the BIOS IC which is socketed. Make sure you reinstall it in the correct orientation and without bending any legs :) Good luck! :)

@jasonputtock4428

7 ай бұрын

yes did all of this and still failed. under boardview, i am trying to understand to chip codes. example NC210 > NR106. I assume this means NC is capacitor > resistor. just a guess. would i be wrong?

@tony359

7 ай бұрын

I'm not sure what NC or NR stand for, sorry.

They can support 48GB, possibly more with eec ram

@tony359

7 ай бұрын

Cool, I'll let my friend know :) Thanks for watching!

i have this motherboard. and still running coz im so poor xD. but i have same problem. on bios & dx diag i have only 16gb instead of 24gb. but on cpuz my ram size is 24gb. with several reboot my ram count properly (24gb). my configuration ram is 2x8gb samsung and 2x4gb corsair. maybe i should try 6x4gb like yours for fix my problem. idont know i just share my experience. sorry for my bad english xD

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

Your English is not so bad! Do you have the latest BIOS 2209? I really improved things on my board. Being a three channel system I'd recommend using 3 modules (or 6) even though it should work regardless. Mixing modules is never good but it doesn't mean it shouldn't work. But there are a few comments here saying that this board was a bit fussy with memory and CPUs so maybe that's how it works.

Gigabyte Still offered IDE and even Floppy on some Ultra Durable Motherboards till at least 2011

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

Yes, my 2011 MSI gen2 ‘i’ series definitely had a floppy connector, I can’t remember about IDE. Thanks for watching!

P6T SE ASUS 1366

It might be that motherboard don't support that ram check the qvl list

@tony359

29 күн бұрын

keep watching :)

mmmm ventoy

hi guys a got a evga x58 sli and was working fine til i overclocked it and then did no posting anymore !!???!!! i got same problem with a asrock x58extreme and one day that get a short from psu and did come back alive but i dont know what happen or how did it come back ...i did try everything with evga mobo and still dead ....any ideas how to fix it??:?thx by now

@tony359

5 ай бұрын

it's hard to tell - I wouldn't expect an overclock to kill a motherboard though. The CPU maybe but not the motherboard. Reset the BIOS, make sure the battery is charged, check all those pins on the CPU socket is all I can think. Good luck :)

@gargullla

5 ай бұрын

@@tony359 thank u ...i believe its not dead also the cpu still works fine ..kinda got locked up same way with asrock one !!

I didn't know that registered DDR3 works in this board. Is that officially supported? Interesting.

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

I wasn't expecting that to work either but ... :)

@Shmbler

Жыл бұрын

@@tony359 Hey Tony, just to clarify: You were indeed able to use registered DDR3 in this P6T deluxe with an i7-940 installed? Or did you swap the CPU out for this test?

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

@@Shmbler No I did not swap the CPU, it was the same i7-940. I did not check what type of memories those are - do you need the exact product number or can you see it from the video?

@Shmbler

Жыл бұрын

@@tony359 Thanks ;-) No, all is good. I had someone telling me that X58 can only do registered with Xeon CPUs. And your vid clearly shows that it works with consumer Nehalems, at least on your specific board and CPU.

please whats atx compatible

@tony359

9 ай бұрын

sorry I am not sure I understand what you mean

what GPU you using please. I have mega issues with RX570

@tony359

8 ай бұрын

a GTX480 which I then repaired here kzread.info/dash/bejne/fouYuc9vqq2qqKQ.html - I am not familiar with the Asus (it's a friend's) and I don't have it anymore. But definitely make sure the BIOS is up to date!

@jasonputtock4428

8 ай бұрын

@@tony359 yeah those cards work well. This RX570 is a nasty card to use with the old boards.

@tony359

8 ай бұрын

I wasn't aware of that - I've always had nVidia on my systems.

@jasonputtock4428

8 ай бұрын

@@tony359 Something to do with UEFI and the 2017 newer cards being used on older boards. Claims are said to require bios update but with shared GPU. Which must be turned off. Sounds like a big problem. The Asus Sabertooth apparently has no issues. Well, what issues do people have in today's economy. CURRENCY!!! So building a 6 core budget still proves to be valuable. Meaning earlier 6 cores like what you just had before it toasted itself, is still worth a pretty penny. Makes you think why people ditch those board right P6TD... Early 6 core. Beats half of those 4 cores still coming out.

I have this ram, this ram have much problem in pin connection

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! The issue happened with a different RAM as well, it should be shown on the video at some point. Thanks for watching!

@especialistqap

Жыл бұрын

@@tony359 use 5000 sandpapel or erase rubber in ram pins

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

@@especialistqap I cleaned with rubber, isopropyl and contact cleaner! :)

bent CPU pins? must've bought this board from Newegg 😂 iykyk

Lol, that USB stick is great. I would just fill it with Linux distro's and ditch Windows as it is a cesspool.

@tony359

3 ай бұрын

Really nice idea indeed - well, it's nice to have Windows there too ;)

@christopherjames9843

3 ай бұрын

@@tony359 Yea, I miss Hardware Monitor, CPU-Z, GPU-Z etc... But I don't not miss Windows itself.

People love to manhandle LGA boards. Would you bother replacing a LGA socket if you had to? I'll bet that is hard!

@tony359

Жыл бұрын

I would give that a go. Removing it would probably be a destructive process as it's lead-free solder. But to install a new one, it might work (I'm assuming it's SMD) by heating up the board from the bottom. Not an easy thing though.

@itstheweirdguy

Жыл бұрын

@@tony359 I’ve seen it being done on other channels but as far as the end result or stability, I have not seen that