I commend Asus for keeping an entire market segment alive.

@Xfade81

5 ай бұрын

Even if NUCs would vanish you still have mini pc's from Minisforum and the likes.

@hanley6478

5 ай бұрын

Minisforum

@cadetsparklez3300

5 ай бұрын

theres tons of minipc brands that arent asus wityh their fakwe warrenty and shit firmeware

@_knotty3510

5 ай бұрын

Agreed

@JamilKhan-hk1wl

5 ай бұрын

Asrock make mini pc too

Damn. That pricing just puts me right back into laptop territory.

@christopherkelley2061

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, you can get a 13800K with a gtx 4080 for that price. What I liked about the nucs was buying them second hand from corporations old stock. Don't think I'll but these new.

@NeonVisual

5 ай бұрын

Some of these hardware manufactures have lost their grasp on reality.

@BGraves

5 ай бұрын

@@NeonVisual gotta pay off the trademark purchase

@black7monkey

5 ай бұрын

Seriously, everything but the price is appealing

@swordimpulse07

5 ай бұрын

It's basically a laptop without the screen and keyboard

this CES 2024 development is pretty substantial. The level of performance you can get in laptops and small PC's in 2024 is absolutely insane

@user-kl6qj9lc5y

5 ай бұрын

Happy bot like auto fan boy person

@macking104

5 ай бұрын

Hp has a laptop that one can max with 128gb and FOUR 4 tb gen4 ssds!

@user-kl6qj9lc5y

5 ай бұрын

@@macking104 where's that laptop in this video??????????????

@macking104

5 ай бұрын

@@user-kl6qj9lc5y just comparing new items...

@CheapSushi

5 ай бұрын

Even some of the new gen i3s/i5s beat out my old X99 HEDT dual CPU Xeon builds I have at this point for most of what I'm doing. Only real big loss is PCIe lanes but you can manage and mitigate that and/or having a separate system for a NAS.

For a "complete rig" in a tiny box like that, the price is what I expected. Wanna see this on a drag race against desktop Macs, even if the market for NUCs and Macs are diametrically opposed.

@ToreOnYouTube

5 ай бұрын

I think the Mac mini is going to stomp it in CPU workloads, but for gaming this is a small gem.

@lucasrem

5 ай бұрын

Flying CIRCU175 Honesty on KZread, why you cry that. apple is other levels, ARM is the future, intel was the past....

@mlordwhiteslayerfromf.u.g

5 ай бұрын

​@@lucasrem personally, I'm more interested in seeing how good Nvidia's ARM based desktop CPU's are gonna be. As a desktop PC gamer myself I'm not interested in purchasing desktop products with soldered components like CPU's and RAM. User upgradablity of desktop PC's isn't something I'm willing to give up on as a consumer.

@marcusborderlands6177

5 ай бұрын

​@@lucasremif x86 is the past why is it still kicking ass? Not every workload is some 15w constrained bullshit that apple loves to flex with

@jubuttib

5 ай бұрын

The price isn't horrific, but it's still quite a lot. Like I just checked local prices and could get a 15" laptop with RTX 4070 and an i9 13900H (2 cores less, ~950 in Cinebench 2024 vs. 1003 seen in video) for a couple hundred less than the barebone NUC, and it'd come with a monitor, a keyboard, trackpad, RAM, storage, etc.

They should start making these in a standard 1U rack form factor

I'm just hoping that they also have the lower end barebone NUCs as well. My Home Assistant server is running on one along with a few other services and it is amazing and cost me less then $250 at the time. It's also what I used for when I set up desktop computers for my in-laws because it's all they need and far better then getting a laptop.

@vinsan98

5 ай бұрын

Chinese OEM's are doing a really great job at that, with Intel n100 processors as well as the new Ryzen chips. Beelink, Minisforum are great options. (I do have beelink eq12 with intel n100.) But I don't think asus is going to go that way unfortunately. But let's see what happens.

@tobiwonkanogy2975

5 ай бұрын

both are great options , i prefer the ryzens for lower power usage for equal work done. Intels have thunderbolt support and often faster soldered memory.@@vinsan98

@Th3_ArCh0n

5 ай бұрын

Minisforum for that. Switched to selling those from NUCs a couple years ago after NUC reliability got worse and worse

I understand the RND and overall just NUCs were always expensive but they need to cut like 200$ across the board of the prices for them to be considered, NUCs imo never took off because of their price.

@muysantos2859

5 ай бұрын

facts, thinkpads laptops is better alternative

The original NUC was the small cube boxes; I have purchased 5 at different times. I didn't feel the skull Canyon has the spirit of the NUC and gave the most problems pushing the power. (one fan fail), and now this Asus model is looking even bigger. I hope they can still do a small NUC, as this portability was great for the small office desk space footprint. Let's see how Asus carry on the NUC flag in the future, as this is their first one, and I guess they wanted a gaming device. There are a lot of players in the SFF mini PC markets, so Asus will have competition at the lower end.

@Xfade81

5 ай бұрын

They will. This just happens to be bigger due to also having powerful discreet graphics. Need space to cool those puppies.

@GTechno13

5 ай бұрын

I deployed a bunch of NUCs and all of them had fan failures.

@Richkill

5 ай бұрын

A business case for NUCs is the timely BIOS updates for intel specific CVE/vulnerabilities. I hope ASUS can continue with the very quick BIOS updates that Intel had.

@ImDembe

5 ай бұрын

@@Richkill Wasnt it Asus that said they wouldent RMA mobos that had burning AMD cpus? Put out a beta BIOS to cover it then backtracked....then we have the whole capacitor that was turned upside down on a Intel motherboard? Asus with alot of premium products but they have a black stain all over themselfs lately...

@jorismak

5 ай бұрын

They have more 'normal' NUCs which have the old form factor, or at least something very similar. This 'ROG' model is with mobile GPUs in it and drawing more power.

The fact this has Thunderbolt 4 means eGPU. And that allows this system to go way beyond its limits.

@mrbobgamingmemes9558

5 ай бұрын

Honestly mini itx pc is better choice than mini pc with egpu since mini pc and egpu size combined are very close to mini itx pc , thunderbolt in minj pc is more make sense to use for external nvme, monitor or docking port , egpu defeats the purpose of mini pc which is space saving ,

@CheapSushi

5 ай бұрын

check out ones like the Zotac Magnus One; it comes with a dGPU.

@Spencerwalker21

5 ай бұрын

​@@CheapSushiI was looking at the zotac zbox but I can't find it for sale anywhere except eBay and a sketchy site called grooves land

@traestephen7276

5 ай бұрын

At that point build a regular pc

@Appri

5 ай бұрын

No, not at all. Not TB4. Just use an extra M.2 SSD slot to get x4 speeds, don't use a TB4/TB3 eGPU.

Mad respect for Jake being so cool, on a show floor, in the asus booth saying he wouldn’t expect being able to buy a barebones one in front of their faces.

@thomasthereal4067

5 ай бұрын

I mean it is a ccompliment to ASUS that they alow it

@ashtonhoward5582

5 ай бұрын

​@@thomasthereal4067it's not really a compliment though. To any informed viewer, he might as well just be stating that ASUS is anti consumer enough to not offer that as an option.

@shubhamthakur8530

5 ай бұрын

​@@ashtonhoward5582well they did cut ties with the Asus for their issues, they aren't gonna hold back now

Honestly after building my own for 20 years now, especially whitebox 4U servers and going through multiple tower cases, etc(I have 6 systems at home right now) (mostly older Intel HEDT builds), my next personal system is just gonna be a gaming NUC or gaming laptop. I don't even really care about making my own SFF build (although lots of cool closed & open cases out there). All the hardware in 2023/2024 is powerful enough even at the mid-level for what I care about, so I'm pretty much done trying to chase some numbers or overly customizing for whatever reason. I got to remind myself I really don't need a 5090 Titan Max Supreme Edition GPU and/or newest top end 300 core Threadripper CPU to enjoy something. Heck, a cheap Intel Arc card (Asrock challenger A380) gave me enough of a boost to enjoy video editing again after I was obsessing about maybe getting a 3080 or something for my lame non-career hobby videos. It just gets in your mind all this stuff. Just gonna save 1 older system as a NAS to fit the all 3.5" HDDs I already have. Price wise it seems like a lot (and it is for a lot of people, me too) but it ends up being about the same since I spend so much on trying to perfect, or customize or optimize, tinker, need more x,y & z more and more instead of just being satisfied and using it. Like all the new fans I end up buying add up, for example. I get too obsessed with lots of hardware instead of just focusing on what I can do with what it is. Maybe that's just me though. These gaming NUCs/mini-PCs, even ones from Zotac (Magnus One), look well made enough to just plug and play and enjoy it.

@guitaripod

5 ай бұрын

relatable 4K 120fps can be achieved with not the bleeding edge now. That's enough

@MallocFree90

5 ай бұрын

I'm sorry, but why? You pay a lot more for the same performance... for a small mITX system.

@HOAheadquarters

5 ай бұрын

@@MallocFree90 bro can't read. " I get too obsessed with lots of hardware instead of just focusing on what I can do with what it is." hardware shaming and tech hoarders have ruined this hobby. This seems like a peaceful way out

@SkateEverythingProject

5 ай бұрын

Great response man I totally agree It is still way too steep for my blood but I could totally see it if I had the money just simply based on the convenience I would love to have something that's not going to send any records but just lets me get at and play with the things that I enjoy. Really enjoyed the perspective brother thanks!

@jamest9638

5 ай бұрын

I share your thoughts, though I have yet to build a home server. 2023/2024’s hardware is so powerful that even the mid level hardware is enough. I too get caught up in all the PC things that I grow tiresome of “chasing” xyz. Only getting older and now I just need to enjoy what’s already available. This NUC is reasonable for my use case, plug and play and enjoy.

I'd enjoy a full review whenever possible

NUC have a lot of niche cases for my clientbase, glad to see one of my fav brands behind it.

As a truck driver, this sounds wicked! Space is a premium and every little bit matters. This and a decent 24" monitor and I'm set to stay on the road for months!

@pr0newbie

5 ай бұрын

Why not just a laptop?

@mrbobgamingmemes9558

5 ай бұрын

Just use laptopthis is more for like stationary pc that used for tight room which is mostly offices, offline store, school, and campus. Remember that laptop thickness is always under 3cm

@clintk4691

4 ай бұрын

Because I didn't enjoy using a laptop in the semi. Far more comfortable to lay in bed and look up at a monitor at the foot of the bed vs a screen by my crotch. Lots of new semi's also already have a TV or a space to mount one on the side wall. This could easily be stowed away in a cubby or mounted next to the TV/monitor for a clean setup that's up and out of the way with no setup time required and no power cable to trip over. Keep in mind that the bunk is smaller than a jail cell. You have a single, maybe twin size mattress and a space 12-24 inches deep and 36ish inches wide to stand and move around in the bunk. A laptop works best when placed on the slide out table or top of a cubby you're already using to make or eat your dinner.

@mrbobgamingmemes9558

4 ай бұрын

@@clintk4691 laptop is still usable with lid closed when you use external monitor, jarrod often always test gaming laptop with closed lid . And all of them is still usable as long you dont stress both cpu and gpu which is extremely rare for normal user, if you use the laptop with closed lid you can just put them anywhere you want as long the airflow is not blocked

That looks like the older (better) Intel gaming NUCs, before they went to those gigantic monstrosities. Awesome.

@watcheths

5 ай бұрын

Looks almost identical to a skull canyon internally as well (except the vapour chamber)

Jake computer synthesizer voice whole episode demanded!

Yes, full review of NUCs please

The small ASUS with the 4060 inside is an absolute beast and I love it. I needed something while I was in Thailand that was small and easy to move and found that. Love it.

Sort of the spiritual successor to the Hades Canyon NUC, I still use one after 5 years or so and it still works great.

@AnTran147

5 ай бұрын

I mean, we had Phantom Canyon and then Serpent Canyon as successors to Hades. This is really the spiritual successor to Serpent Canyon and considering how long it actually takes to plan and design stuff like this, I'm sure this one still has Intel's DNA in it.

@user-wz9nw6xu7z

3 ай бұрын

IF YOU RUN GAME RIGHT NOW THAT CAME OUT 5 YEARS AGO OR LIKE 3YEARS AGO. DOES IT RUN GAME SMOOTHLY AS IT DID 5 YEARS AGO WHEN YOU BOUGHT IT ?

I want a full review! I like mini-PCs, especially gaming ones.

Pricing may kill this PC (which would be a shame if they did not continue this line-up in the future). It has Laptop components, but even premium laptop with same spece, with battery, screen, keyboard and a touchpad IS cheaper. I kinda expected for ASUS to price it as a "premium" product (ROG brand, etc).... but on top of lacking battery, screen, keyboard it also lacks SSD & RAM, which makes it WAY TOO EXPENSIVE. I mean, if there are already some great mini gaming PCs like Minisforum Neptune. Asus is entering Gaming NUC market and if they price it badly, they will not sell well tbh. Anyway, for that cash, you could probably build ITX PC with way better components.

@user-ds8rj2vc4v

5 ай бұрын

That's my issue with it. It's a laptop without the screen, keyboard and mousepad effectively. It should be priced several hundred below laptop specs, potentially more. There's literally no reason to not just buy a cheaper laptop and a £10 laptop stand for this. The performance would be the same.

@oighor

5 ай бұрын

Minisforum Neptune are always sold out, no?

@ColorblindMonk

5 ай бұрын

They're laptop components, sure, but they aren't constrained to power and cooling limits of a laptop, so ASUS should be able to pack more performance into it since they don't have to consider running the machine off a battery. For size to performance, especially if you're limited on space, it might be niche but there's some value to it.

The price is on the high end, but not completely unreasonable for what it is. Even with a custom-built, the price goes up as the size goes down and not in a necessarily linear fashion. I *do* think the product would be more competitive if the "with storage etc" price came in about $300 lower though. Maybe they'll figure out a way to cut into that price a little bit without losing performance before the product launches? Finding 15% in efficiency savings in production is a lot though...

This would be great hope they also make a monitor mount in one of there monitors to make a all in one PC.

if you absolutely need a tiny chassis like this, i dont think the price is far off the mark. it has robust cooling, and if asus sneaks some bios tweaking options in there, i think it would be a pretty good micro box.

@danielhulan3058

5 ай бұрын

I agree with the cooling option being robust but it's cheaper to build a small form factor build. And with some of the cases out now, it's probably better to just build a sff build.

@Tommy_The_Gun

5 ай бұрын

It all depends on how good quality the fan bearings are. I have ROG G20 and Fans over the years got so noisy that I had to replace them, and it was not easy since Asus uses specific fans (not the of-shelf pc parts) which are hard to find. I would say that price suggest that Asus thinks that if some one can afford it, then they can replace their PC every 4 or 5 years, so I would not expect fans to be calculated for more than that.

@jubuttib

5 ай бұрын

The barebones 4070 version being significantly more expensive than a laptop with the same GPU and comparable CPU (~950 cinebench vs. 1003 shown in video) is the biggest pain point for me. It's a tempting device, but really hard for me to justify that price gap. =/

@Xfade81

5 ай бұрын

"micro"

@Spencerwalker21

5 ай бұрын

I'm hoping this releases soon. I'm in the market for a small PC like this and the only option I liked was the zotac zbox but it's only available on eBay and grooves land which is weird.

I really want one man, mount this to the back of a 1080p 120hz monitor and you've got a sweet little portable gaming rig/ workstation

At 7:44, that's Jason from PC Builder! I think.... yea video bomb!

Looking at it, I was thinking "thin client" more than a NUC. Very interesting!

Shout out to the editors at 1:15. Attention to details

@MotoCat91

5 ай бұрын

Yep, even simple TTS like this is soooooo much better than a pinned comment or purely visual overlay.. It just so happened that I glanced at another browser window when it happened so if not for the audio swap I would have missed the correction

Looks a lot like the old Alienware Alpha R2. Cool to see that much horse power in a NUC.

@ali-1000

5 ай бұрын

imagine if they turned this nuc into a steam machine, it certainly wouldnt take over the console market cus of price but with proton compatability should be much better

@buckysrevenge

5 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing, I still use my Alienware Steam Machine R2 for casual gaming with the family and would love to get a (reasonably priced) replacement eventually

Full review please !!🤓

Full review! Full review!

Hopefully this thing does well enough to where Asus will keep bringing these to market next gen as well.

yes please do a full review of the rog nuc i9

LOL at the Robotic Voice over correcting the mistake. Funny at least you guys are making the correction now!

I currently have Minisforum UM780 XTX (Nov2023) which is IMO one of the top mini PC's of 2023. I have it hooked up to a full RTX4060 via oculink. total cost was USD $950. Let's wait for the price of Minisforum UH185 (2024), if it's $1k or less, then I'd go for that. especially for its OCulink. I can just buy a $500 full RTX4070 to plug into it.

That Asus Rep nervous laughter look 😊

Reminds me of my NUC Hades; conked out after 18 months of light usage. Luckily I was able to claim warranty and they replaced with 2 units.

For those prices, you could get a gaming laptop with similar class of specs, that also comes with a keyboard, a nice screen and a battery.

I want to see a full review for this device

Haha disassembling right there, didn't expect that! awesome!

I would love to see a igpu + dual nic, maybe even sfp+ in there.

For clean desk style , you can easily hide it behind your screen

Can't wait! Hope this can be paired with a light weight GAN power adapter.

Jake is the only reason I sometimes watch lmg.

The question for this product is whether a comparable laptop with the same specs would cost as much and performance similarly. The thing about Asus laptops, i can always find them for under MSRP. I wouldn't mind a NUC if the price is retail stores is significantly discounted.

Full review please 🙂

I’ve had hands on a lot of mini PCs and every time I hold a Mac mini I think “why aren’t mini PC manufacturers integrating the power supply in the unit”? Also smart of ASUS to take a page out of Macbook modding and add thermal pads to make thermal contact with the fans. Since you’re doing it on a desktop you don’t need to worry about higher surface temps as you would with a laptop; the price though, at that point you’re getting in similar-spec gaming laptop territory

@ThomasWood3DPrinting

5 ай бұрын

My bet would be heat generation and space. It would mean less room for cooling and more heat generating components in that tight space.

@athunin_

5 ай бұрын

Lenovo actually has one of these, it's the IdeaCentre Mini, I believe. Integrated PSU, current gen intel processors

@CheapSushi

5 ай бұрын

Check out the Zotac ZBox Magnus One, it's integrated into the body. There's probably more out there like that.

Watercooling and fabric pci-e level expansion with gpus would make it killer easy to make a solid PC cafe style experience

Hopefully on the smaller ones they keep the Dual HDMI Dual Ethernet option on the latest Intel NUC Pros. Really interested to see what they. Ring out in the smaller form factor. Wouldn’t mind if they got a little larger to enable better I/O. I’d love if they did an integrated PSU design similar to MacMini.

I would prefer to see the same cooling solution on both processors (CPU and GPU) because if it has a smart power distribution, the CPU is always at a disadvantage with cooling. Intel NUC's lowest price was around $350, so I don't know how I would look at that $1800 price without everything.

Not that I need it (just built a new full desktop) but I LOVE the small form factor builds. I would love to see that in a higher TDP package but honestly it's a very powerful system in a tiny package which is amazing and I'm happy to see them pulling this off.

I would like a full review :)

heck yeah, bring on the review.

If it gave the same results as w6800, then it's giving RTX 3060 ti (desktop) level results😮. Wow

I still have a nuc that’s a daily driver, with Linux for me, def interested in this…

great video🙏

This mini pcs are great for divorced parents kids, still remember bringing my nuc in school on friday becuz my dad will pick me up and will stay with him every weekend

@tormaid42

5 ай бұрын

Problem with that and any other “transportable” use case is that laptops nearly as fast exist in a similar price range.

@MonicaHolly143

5 ай бұрын

@@tormaid42 problem with laptops are they are heavy and big thats why this exist, a laptop cant even fit in my school bag when i was a kid but pc can

do full review pls and also if possible can you also mention which countries this product is going to be available in as well?

the tjmax on the core ultra 7 is 110 degrees C. so that is why it reached 106C on a big turbo thing then the 70-80 C is extremely nice temps for a cpu like this. most laptop run at 99C constantly under load anyway

id love to see you buying the barebone higher tier system, upgrading it to the max and maybe idk, modify something about it, artsy case or sth

Hopefully they'll release a nuc extreme with support for dedicated gpus

I can't wait for this thing to come out. Any updates on when this lil device will finally be available?

I want to see the psu integrated and am5 mobo. the new cpus will be insane for non gpu options too

I am hoping for ASUS to provide an affordable NUC. I am using an 8th gen Intel NUC for my plex server, and I am looking to replace it for something stronger but still very power efficient and low TDP.

@DeSpanni

5 ай бұрын

Then you might wanna take a look at the Minisforum EM680

@Haarschmuckfachgeschafttadpole

5 ай бұрын

Get a used dell optiplex micro.

Oh yeah I absolutely want a review. And I'd also like an analysis on the reasoning of why a laptop CPU instead of a socketable one, too.

I've two intel nuc pcs, they were both amazing, I mean they still are. Cant wait what the asus will bring

I mean, I would want to see how it handles various pro workloads and compare it to equivalently performant laptops in price. If it is competent and competitive, it could be an interesting alternative for travel work computers in scenarios where you expect a display to be present at the destination. It could also be an interesting solution for space conscious deployments. It has been a hot minute since I've needed to research laptops, but it is an interesting consideration I would look at for school/work environment computer fleets.

If you happen to review them, please compare the two models and check with different RAM sticks

The pricing isnt completely out to lunch but at this pricing you could easily get a better base rig from minisforum with a destop gpu and enclosure for less while still having better performance across the board. Unless you're just that space constrained, this doesnt really make any sense.

@RomvnlyPlays

5 ай бұрын

this is way better than a minisforum in the configuration showed. Hell, they're not even comparable as they're for different portions of the market price wise. This is for users that need power in a small size. Miniforums is modest, this is EXTREME!

Would love to buy one if it’s priced a bit lower

Proxmox cluster would be crazzzzzzzy

Asus has been selling their version of nuc for years in other countries it's just now they'll be adopting the name too + more markets

Well this was impressive to see.

At this point, what is the use of a NUC, if its so power intensive and expensive?

LTT Review with a LTT Watercool Mod cooler plus giving it more power would be really nice.

FYI - the graphic that comes on screen when you're talking about the specs says Intel Arc graphics and not the Nvidia stuff being referenced throughout the video.

Thank you Optimus Prime 1:15 LUL

When will it be available and what is the expected price?

It can be compared to minisfoum new motherboard lineup 😊

From the official (EU) announcement, the pricing of the ROG thing places it well above an entry-level gaming laptop with the same specs. Which makes it more of a niche than I would've liked to have seen.

would be sicc if it had ir in the front like the good nucs back in the day used to

Imagine a tiny pc half the size of this one with a powerful laptop cpu storage and ram paired with asus external graphics card like a 4090 that would be absolutely insane power in a tiny setup

I'm so going to buy 1 of these.

very cool looking

Yesss upgradeable nucs are back

this device is legit awesome

What’s the release date?

Props to Asus for offering a barebones option hope they actually end up doing it

I'm interested in this device as a PC console. I wonder if it compatible with armoury crate.

I want to see it. Please show us.

Price seems a tad high for what's basically a gaming laptop in a chassis with less features - no screen, keyboard, track pad, or battery - with the only real advantages likely being higher total power and better(ish) thermal solutions. Would be curious how this performs against ROG laptops of a similar price point.

I like how small it is and I also like the fact it would be great for my lounge which has a 4K normal tv which is 50hz so I could play my games on max settings with a cool system. Only problem will be the price as you can get last years razor blade laptop for similar money.

Would prefer a non "ROG" branded NUC for the average user at a lower price point.

5:05 what i say every time a relative asks me to fix something lol

I bought the nuc 11 enthusiast rtx 2060 kit (barebone) back when it came out for $1100 mainly for retro gaming and its still a beast. Asus name on it explains the extra couple hundred but I bet it's gonna be a monster if the original nuc team designed it.

Its cool, butit feels like you could buy a laptop with similar specs/performance for about the same if not slightly less money and get a screen, keyboard (and ofc the ability to take it with you). I guess economy of scale and competition comes more into play with laptops

@tim3172

5 ай бұрын

I think you just accidentally described all NUCs and mini PCs... ever...

@shinji2k

5 ай бұрын

Yeah this is what I was thinking. If you are patient you can get a 4070 laptop for 1-1.2K so this seems pretty pricey for what it is.

Excited to see Asus stepping into the NUC game. The price seems a bit steep but if the performance is as good as you say, it just might dominate the small PC market.

I want 1 but for the price may as well do a build

My 2990WX scores a 1478 in MT with 32-cores, and if I want to I could stretch the performance so the Threadripper CPU is more multi-thread focused and it will pull 1689 on 32-cores.

when is it going avaliable