Travis woulda heard Joe loud ass yelling “stop” if he was there

@joshuafigueroa2495

2 жыл бұрын

@Ben Lurie my nephew lol

@jojobk12able

2 жыл бұрын

LMFAOOOOO

@VENOM99099

2 жыл бұрын

Facts

@megdee7353

2 жыл бұрын

This is best comment on here(and I didn’t even read any other comments yet ctfu lmao 🤣

@beyond-v2j

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

“I’m not arguing w/ you, because it’s open to interpretation, but that’s *bullshit.”* 😂 man I love the way Joe Budden talks sometimes

@1Luv87

2 жыл бұрын

He's so annoying 🙄 😒 😑

@ashleyvictoria6754

2 жыл бұрын

A fucking Virgo lol

@phillippoggi8080

2 жыл бұрын

He a clown.

Why does Joe keep talking over people when he thinks he's right or matter or fact in every instance? its ok to not be correct let other people have an opinion too...

@Onwualu5

2 жыл бұрын

Must be new here

@revekat2053

2 жыл бұрын

Because they do the exact same thing to him of you pay attention. They all talk over each other. Also I think he might have ADHD, which would explain a lot of his behaviors.

@kyrone475

2 жыл бұрын

Thats just joe lml have mal and rory use to get it more 😂

@cynthiawhite9997

2 жыл бұрын

I really wanted to hear the other opinions!

@rikkidgermano9640

2 жыл бұрын

EGO - Joe always been that way. This is why Rory & Mal are gone - it's his show! I barely come here because it's annoying after a while listening to someone who likes to hear himself talk.

“Crafted for fuckery” THAT part. 🙌🏼

I like that word energy. And how they used it. The way the music sounds all the way down to hertz and frequencies matter and how they suggest how you finna act. Shit wicked.

@solas444

2 жыл бұрын

You sir know your shit

@australian2

2 жыл бұрын

Wickedness will be downfall of mankind.

@theboy1625

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. Been looking into that shit myself So I can manipulate it

So glad y'all spoke on this! I was waiting!! Great Points Joe!!

Facts...frequencies and how music is crafted matters

This is where the podcast be in its bag. We all come for this.

the capacity of the entire venue was 200,000 but the show was set up for 50,000. not sure if you are familiar with setting up stages, but the venue can adjust the show setup to however many tickets are sold as long as its not exceeding the venue limit (200,000). But again, the GA set was set up for 50,000 (meaning fortified fences set up around an area fit for 50,000). He enticed to many people to break in that the show set was immediately over crowded and the fortified barriers around the set could not be toppled over. Creating the chaos and hellish environment that lead to lost lives.

@k-rocadams299

2 жыл бұрын

Wrong, the concert is in a festival space. I’m told of they fortified fences were only set up in the front, middle and the middle of the back of the performance area, much like rolling loud. So the capacity was okay it’s just how the performance area was set up it made it overcrowded. This is where design flaw lies. the two big screens in the back created the biggest problem and was the main reason so many people were having issues with suffocation and injuries. I was in the front of the crowd at Astroworld at first and we had to go in the back by the screens and go around. This is how many people got stuffed and began to suffocate because they were trying to get out.

This was one of those situations whatever can go wrong will go wrong

@brandonblackfyre5783

2 жыл бұрын

That's why you always need to be prepared for the worse thing possible. Always expect and be prepared for the worse and pray for the best. Better to be safe then sorry.

Sometimes Joe needs to realize that he is not always right. Stop cutting people off, stop making it about your own interpretation and stop getting so damn defensive when others have a different opinion, smh

The Astro World incident is a good example of how things can go from normal to the worse case possible in a matter of seconds. That's why it's always good to have an escape plan no matter where you are, be prepared and always pay attention to your surroundings. Normally you'll get a "bad feeling" when something bad is about to happen so always trust your gut.

@Pros2mycons

2 жыл бұрын

I agree

@progressivelife841

2 жыл бұрын

Travis dropped a song called No Escape on the day of the festival.

@rikkidgermano9640

2 жыл бұрын

They sold too many tickets for not enough space - greed got to them and they way they handled security was even worse! I have been to many concerts & festivals if you're not close to the stage, it makes no sense to try and force yourself up front. I have a great time being in the 3/4 of the crowd, I can see the stage and when the show is over, I get home faster.

@canamargera

2 жыл бұрын

Some of the people there had no idea of the chaos happening til the news got out

@southernguru1455

2 жыл бұрын

@@progressivelife841 it's called the escape plan not to be an asshole but just to point out how accurate it is to what u typed

EXACTLY, it's *HIS* shit. You can't take the benefits or the amazing publicity of the show being a big hit but then be absolved from the bad stuff that happens when things turn bad. He deserves some blame.

@Gino565

2 жыл бұрын

That’s because if the show was a big hit, it would be down the actual show. This tragedy has nothing to do with his performance, it was about safety and logistics.

@johnrossi6189

2 жыл бұрын

@@Gino565 Which comes with owning a show/event. You can't reap the rewards but when things go bad pretend like you have no hand in it. It's his event, his name is signed to it, any person who has their name attached to something should do everything in their power to make sure nothing goes wrong, and you know what the first step is? Not to tell your obviously crazy fans to find a way into the show anyways even though it was sold out.

@Gino565

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnrossi6189 Irrelevant. If the show was celebrated, it would be because of the performance, which is on him. The reason the show isn’t being celebrated IS NOT because of the performance, it’s because people died. Your equivalence is incorrect. People dying isn’t strictly on him, it’s also on Live Nation, security, and Houston PD. Just because it’s his festival, that doesn’t mean he’s responsible for literally everything. Isn’t that obvious? He didn’t organise the event, he didn’t hire the staff, he didn’t work out the logistics. So like I said, your comment doesn’t make sense.

@johnrossi6189

2 жыл бұрын

@@Gino565 I never said it's fully his fault, I have said time and time again on different comments under this video that he isn't fully at fault but is still partially at fault. And if 200k people joined the show and didn't kill anyone, if they were properly spread out or if the show went off without any issues people would celebrate it or say he had a successful show. Besides that, again it's HIS EVENT with HIS name on it, he SHOULD be taking a more hands on approach. He has people *he* assigned to do those things so that's him giving his co-sign. You can't receive the money from it but then act like you aren't at fault at all. The show only went crazy because of his doing, because he told his crazy ass fan base to jump barricades in the past or even this show when he said "show is sold out but we will get the wild ones in anyways." You guys are picking at straws, he would still benefit if this event went off amazingly, he would be getting praise for *more then just his performance* if this event went well, they would say how he can really "control a crowd" and how he can put on an amazing event, so no, it's not just about him preforming.

@johnrossi6189

2 жыл бұрын

@@Gino565 Also, if you look up Live Nation you can see the amount of lawsuits the company has because of negligence and people getting hurt, so again, Travis or someone he PAYS should have looked more into Live Nation.

Joe is wrong. They maxed 50k ticket sales. Outside venues has no limits by state law and the potential to hold 250k people. But They weren’t equipped for more than 50k. They ran out of water and were short staffed for medic care before trav got to the stage. Please do research for this discussion to sound more realistic. Kids are allowed to see Astro world and his carnival designs. Stormi was there. His shows were all ages. They Recommended kids leave at 7pm. Trav has a bad reputation for being wild. His fans broke in every yr. this yr was badly planned and with the kids rushing the stage he didn’t provide adequate care or security. This was one of many bad things he does. He excites riots. Trav Been charged x2 for riots before. Don’t protect trav he signed off on All this. No safety standards. They had no planning for crowd surging. This is a sign of unprofessionalism from a multi billion company. Live nation is evil and cheap. I never attend a concert and u can bypass security. Never!!! Once the kids broke in u cancel the show. This ain’t how u suppose to act. This is reckless endangerment and 10 people are dead. A 9 yr old died wanting to listen to crappy sicko mode. This is beyond tragic. No one should die to listen to mediocre music. Trav ain’t all that impressive. Live nation is greedy putting kids at risk for profits. No “rap” concert ever experienced this many causalities. Smdh. Rip to those young lives lost 😞 No one should experience that type of trauma. And hell yeah it’s lawsuit land when u ruined families. Kids died Joe. For no good reason. please discuss with more concern for those lives u can’t replace. Listen to Bharti Shahani’s mother explain how she lost her angel. U will cry. The show doesn’t go on when people are pleading for air. It was a critical situation and he continued to perform for 40 mins while fans are turning blue in vip. An off duty nurse jumped in to help coding patients . A 9 yr old was kickEd, stepped on, his organs crushed. This ain’t normal under an circumstance. This discourages me and many others to trust going to venues.

@progressivelife841

2 жыл бұрын

Unless I work in events I ain't doing research, it's a waste of time.

@progressivelife841

2 жыл бұрын

I went to a concert last Weds and I was fine.

@nicolesmith1647

2 жыл бұрын

This was NO MISTAKE….this was fully thought of & planned just this way…this played out exactly the way it was supposed to!!! Sick AF!!! This the shit they into!!!! Human sacrifice at its finest!!! Ppl good at canceling mofo’s so let’s see this POS get canceled! Way too many signs & symbols told y’all wtf y’all were going to but nobody got the time now know how to pay attention & unfortunately it took hundreds to die & get injured hopefully now we do EVERYTHING with eyes & ears wide open!!!!

@nicolesmith1647

2 жыл бұрын

@@progressivelife841 not if u wanna live & come out alive. Shit we in a world now u gotta go into EVERYTHING knowing every single detail! We in a non trustworthy world unfortunately. So ppl need to start moving different we not in that same world from 2yrs ago!

@Camille_Anderson

2 жыл бұрын

💯👋👋👋

Joe is lowkey right, his fans ain’t heard his voice literally in years. LOL

@ninarenae3147

2 жыл бұрын

Bruh this the first time I’ve actually agreed with joe 😂

Bullshit too many people were pleading with him to totally stop the show.......he incited that craziness!!! AND he was one of the organizers of the event. The fact that it was pretty much the whole crowd that was in distress, HE needed to be the one to take the situation into his hands to make sure things got calmed down and people were ok....but he didn't care. And it's going to hurt him in the end.

@papichampu7616

2 жыл бұрын

Not his fault.

@oxrea

2 жыл бұрын

It would blow your mind to eventually know that the concert was meant to happen and some people were meant to die due to TS's greed

They hired security on the spot not trained professional security

@jerseydevil1

2 жыл бұрын

You’d expect more from live nation , who was hired to organize the event & also the biggest event coordinators in the world

@stephanie3506

2 жыл бұрын

That's the other fact that is gonna get them sued real good!!!

They starting to get mad they can't never get a word in 🤣🤣🤣

@JoeBudden: total appreciation for the entire breakdown. Pushing towards 60 and there during the beginning of Hip Hop in NYC anyone with the smallest of brains could understand the elite presentation. (Harlem is listening 🎧)

He told them to sneak in, know all facts

If I'm not mistaken, TRAVIS TOLD MORE PEOPLE TO SHOW UP!!! HE IS TO BLAME!!! NOT THE ONLY ONE BUT YOU CANT SAY THAT HE ISN'T !!! THE NEGATIVE FREQUENCIES THEY PLAYED BETWEEN ACTS/SONGS WAS SCARY AND MADE PEOPLE PASS OUT! this is some scary shit bro

@skywalkerwalker3934

2 жыл бұрын

Bullshit! If Travis told people to show up, Travis didn't let them in.

@cece5705

2 жыл бұрын

@@skywalkerwalker3934 its right he said it on his tweet. F the police and break in. So he did said it on tweet so yes they going to do what Travis tell them to do.

@dominiquehunter7084

2 жыл бұрын

@@cece5705 sure did!

@alphaandomega3981

2 жыл бұрын

@@cece5705 yeah the tweet with astro poster thar he's deleted apparently

@Azraeluchiha999

2 жыл бұрын

He was just promoting his Festival. He didn't tell people to crush other people, suffocate people, inject other people with syringes or any of that. Not to mention, what happened to "if he tell you to jump off a bridge, are you going to do it"? Where's the responsibility for the fans?

oh god, that fruit stand line killed me lmao

30:51-Parks: Same roller coaster. 😂😂

The Devil did his work that night. Sad times we live in.

@luckysvn9376

2 жыл бұрын

There’s other entities other than the devil that are responsible or shit like this thought I’d add.

@harrissr.615

2 жыл бұрын

@@luckysvn9376 like what/who? (Genuine curiosity)

@theghettoracle

2 жыл бұрын

I do work every night, I just don't kill people and harvest their souls though(get over yourselves). Quite frankly I'm not all that interested in humans. I wish y'all would leave me the hell out of this, what occured that night were the results of negligence, hyperactive over stimulated drugged up and dehydrated raging ravers compacting each other like mindless idiots, poor planning, poor communication and organizing... Humans steady trying to blame me for the shit they're responsible for.

@theghettoracle

2 жыл бұрын

@@luckysvn9376 Thank you, SIR!

@trishmagenta883

2 жыл бұрын

@@theghettoracle Huh?

That “energy” in songs he’s talking about, FACTS. Big emphasis on what you’re listening to and how you listen

@Rwer1234

2 жыл бұрын

People are not talking about how the music took these kids to a different place emotionally. Add thousands of other feeling what you're feeling. Amplifies everything

@darnelldarden9429

2 жыл бұрын

It’s true when I listen to king Von and Durk it brings out a different side, I can’t listen to it for too long when I do

@SevenHunnid

2 жыл бұрын

I smoke weed & get high on my KZread channel plus i also do storytime videos

@Hendrixxx9427

2 жыл бұрын

@@SevenHunnid I respect the hustle lmao

@kyrone475

2 жыл бұрын

Not for me i can listen to any music and not feel that way 💭even wen im smacked at this point u cant speak for everyone anymore u can speak on wat u would feel

Celebrity worship ain’t cute

This invites a riot lol 😂

I have seen plenty of artists pause concerts for safety concerns. He did not stop the show for the ambulance. He seen the ambulance, there were people dancing on the ambulance. Cmon

I've seen a member of a legendary hip hop group jump up a speaker, then jump/ climb up two balconies to knock out a dude who was beating up his girlfriend during a concert.. I just kept thinking of that when you were talking about 'what do you do as a performer when something happens in the crowd'. Peace and love to everyone.

Joe's narcissism shows when he's podcasting.

30:55 LMAOO Joe got me crying 😭 “ohh yeah.. this incites a riot”

Is parks trying to protect the touring bag lol

The JBP KILLING these takes 🔥🔥🔥

lmao Ice's face at 19:15

@briannadaylon90

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

18:07 that’s not hip hop doing the mosh pitting. Travis’ fanbase goes way beyond hip hop. Those ARE the kids that do know how to mosh pit and come from that culture. You just probably shouldn’t mosh pit when there’s 50,000 people and there’s like there’s like 8 sections that are so full that no one can really move.

@biguglyting

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. His demographic does not know a Nas record.

@krumshamim

2 жыл бұрын

There is a new demographic tho . It’s not just the ppl that listen to Nas no more. There is. Youth that grew up listening and they built different and don’t value what the previous generation valued. It’s a cycle.

@dazwhite2222

2 жыл бұрын

Travis is not hiphop

@gmorgcyborg

2 жыл бұрын

@Maxine Shaw facts.. use to get crazy in the club but once people seemed to fall or be hurt the shit would stop till they moved out the way

@Osei_Bean_8ryant

2 жыл бұрын

@@gmorgcyborg You're right. Lyrics like "so I go to my loaded tech 9 thats off in the trunk" were meant to go shoot somebody when you fall 😂

16:30 that’s exactly what happened. My brother is a first responder in that area. They went to the promoters prior and they declined their service.

I wish y’all would have mentioned Travis partying at Dave and busters till 5 in the morning

Them: "i don't think its travis' fault, its because of the overcrowd, you cant control that" Travis: **encouraging people to sneak in after they ran out of tickets on social media**

This is what X tried warning parents with as far as frequencies and what frequencies artists might be feeding your kids

@coltanddj

2 жыл бұрын

That is entirely correct. Decibels can trigger.

@Aquariusshorti

2 жыл бұрын

Fr

14:21 was a Travis pun that ish ain’t even plan for

@JS310

2 жыл бұрын

lmao seamless aswell but you just know he never meant it

@darnelldarden9429

2 жыл бұрын

Word I did a double take to see if he said it on purpose

It's crazy how they somehow find ways to justify Travis's behaviour. It is not that he was just the performer, it was also his festival. That means, his responsibility is beyond performance. I don't care if he stopped the show 1 or 2 times but he should've stopped it when he got approached by staff to stop the entire show because the backstage section was already filled with dead bodies and yet he still continued. No empathy, sympathie or excuses for this!

@josearellano3670

Жыл бұрын

That’s just no true false info, if anything Houston PD should’ve stopped it

Appreciate the perspective of the entertainer. P.S...let Joe lead. When he's in his bag, he's in his bag.

Totally agree with a lot of what you guys said. Thanks for the breakdown.

They talk over each other too much

I hope it don’t get worse, but it’s worse. Wow. Great segment ! I love the way Joe controls the convo. Sometimes they try to rush through it and it’s much better when Joe controls the convo to really help break down the situation. You did it Joe. 🖤

Show could've been shut down as soon as they broke down those barriers

@jerseydevil1

2 жыл бұрын

And what you think would’ve happened after that ? The crowd who ignored stepping on people was just gone go home ?

@sublimelove23

2 жыл бұрын

@@jerseydevil1 maybe they wouldve rioted, a lot of injuries, multiple arrests, but probably NO deaths. Xantastic is right, they shouldve cancelled everything the second they broke through those barries.

@jerseydevil1

2 жыл бұрын

@@sublimelove23 lmao bro if you think no deaths would’ve taken place with thousands of unhinged fans left astroworld and spilled into Houston you’re crazy , in the army ( I’m aware this isn’t the army but its kinda a great way to access wether or not you’re gonna do something) our action briefs consisted of if we weighed the pros and cons between each choice & tbh I’m not sure the best choice would’ve been shutting the show down

@lockietaliana2283

2 жыл бұрын

@@sublimelove23 that’s where you’re wrong. If there’s riots, especially on the streets then Police are obviously going to get involved and you see what happens when violent kids meet American Police. People die. This festival was going to go one way or the other and I believe this could have been much much worse

Ice plays devils advocate to the weakest situations. Watching a live doesn't give you full justice on what was going on .

That shit Joe's was saying about getting in the club @29:05 could not be more accurate. Took me years to realize that now that I'm 34 and can pay it no problem, I don't feel the club scene like that anymore 💯💯💯💯💯

I ain’t gon lie joe I left you when you parted ways with Rory and mal, but you just brought me back with this take.. 🔥🔥🔥

@emoceaneternal5973

2 жыл бұрын

Facts

@progressivelife841

2 жыл бұрын

lol he found another black and bi racial guy to take their place 😂😂

Mosh etiquette is a huge factor here. Thank you for speaking this out loud.

They dropped the ball when you make only one entrance and one exit. People were caged in and couldn’t get to the exit because people in the back were rushing to the front so how people in the front suppose to get to the exit??

I miss how “quiet” Rory and Mal were while Joe was talking. These two don’t ever stop saying something. Silence is power sometimes

@nabors145

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t mind them chiming in when they do. If it wasn’t for that Joe would spread a lot of misinformation

@marxxxmusic2423

2 жыл бұрын

@@nabors145 right but you can still chime in after the man has said his peace. Instead of just waiting for there chance to talk next

@calicoco7974

2 жыл бұрын

Quiet. But I get you 😊

@ahviwe

2 жыл бұрын

Hahahahaha

@brandocabz1023

2 жыл бұрын

hard disagree

Gov Ball has canceled many times for safety reasons, Rolling Loud also removed Cassonova and Pop Smoke last minute for safety reasons.

they need seat at festival concerts and not allow those many people to stand up and push forward crushing people. Only allow a vip section for standing with limited amount of people to go into this section. A seated venue would have stop a lot of this. I use to do security a lot of concerts and seated venues are a huge way to stop to many people to push to the front and allows for more control of security and ushers at the venue.

Every time I see Travis Scott on video, he’s always treating people like shit.

@seeyoucu

2 жыл бұрын

Facts

Me : Siri , play some Joe Budden Siri : Who?

Ive been waiting for this..dammit Joe! Ive seen so much and heard as much..speak on it!

Festival layout? Crowd control barriers? I'm curious how the Festival was structured? Seems like there were no exit routes. Horrible.

@trishmagenta883

2 жыл бұрын

It took 30 minutes to get to an exit

I wonder how embarrassed those people who were jumping on those ambulances feel now

What mainly caused the deaths was the layout of the stage. Even people before the concert were saying it wasn’t gonna work and people ignored it.

I was waiting for this from you guys.

@lolabroadhead3972

2 жыл бұрын

Me too!

@TheOnlyB345T

2 жыл бұрын

Why

No HE TOLD A SHIT LOAD OF PEOPLE TO SNEAK IN..

@seeyoucu

2 жыл бұрын

Yep

Joe…. If every cop is at astroworld who’s out patrolling lol

@Pmoney936

2 жыл бұрын

How many cops do you see at a 100,000 occupants football game?

@atothetop3779

2 жыл бұрын

@@Pmoney936 that’s not a music concert

@Pmoney936

2 жыл бұрын

@@atothetop3779 there are sporting events that are equivalent in size to that festival. Don’t get your point. Could argue the crowds are rowdier

This event was staffed with more police and security than the World Series however they couldn’t tell the promoters that a mass event was going on for over 30 minutes. Festivals are different than concerts. This isn’t the first Astroworld either. Part of Travis persona is his social awkwardness.

@HueyFreeman_

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, but it gets very weird when people don’t understand this has been Travis persona since day 1 , they just assume he doesn’t care , I would ask tho .. how should someone respond on the internet to over 8 deaths , it’s a lose lose situation.

@stephanie3506

2 жыл бұрын

He seems DUMB to me....

Joe be pulling numbers out his ass lmaoo

This man never been in front of 50k+ crowd 😂

You have a building to hold a capacity of 200000..and they have no emergency safety precautions something is sooo off

@biglex42

2 жыл бұрын

Wasn’t a building…it’s an outdoor parking lot area outside the Texans Stadium…

@TheAMSport

2 жыл бұрын

@@biglex42 same idea all in one..can't say for sure if you can put that all on the artist..gotta hear more info

As a new producer that hasn’t dropped his ep yet… I get what you’re saying about the music formula 😭🔥it is like edm music but masked differently

It’s 50 yr old experienced us VS these new generation festival goers. Our view don’t mean ish !!!! These kids lost. And my own kid is ready to rage at an upcoming 3 day festival in December. And where is the proactive announcements? Dammit.

I believe it's called rage, not just a stampede

I like this show wit ish and them way better no cap salute my guys 💯

Towards the end what song are they talking about ?

@rafinhaipsep

2 жыл бұрын

Sicko Mode.

Joe be keeping it real.

I went to a Travis Scott concert in 2019 and the kids were climbing the white metal amphitheater tarp thing before the show even started! Those kids were wilding

@ye23.

2 жыл бұрын

The truth is travis encourages that shit. He encourages his fans to “rage” which is some shit he stole from cudi

@blacksheep1502

2 жыл бұрын

@ye23 Exactly, I always thought He was Lame for that shit.

@marselisscott6702

2 жыл бұрын

@@ye23. Nah Cudi and travis both got that from Rock music.

@ye23.

2 жыл бұрын

@@marselisscott6702 cudi may have got it from rock but travis is known to copy cudi so thats where he got it from

Ish just making up numbers to show he know basic maths 🤣🤣🤣

Moshpits worked when Travis still did clubs and small venues, it was fun times, but I think there is a number of people where moshpits becames a stampede. . .

This was a good honest discussion. I’m a little tempted to subscribe on Patreon now.

And there was no 2 day pass in 2019. This was the first year they were doing 2 days. I went to both prior years and skipped this year (none in 2020 obviously).

They are only sticking up for him because in the beginning of this video Joe said they work closely with Live Nation. Completely bias

@nihilismistheonlyway4680

2 жыл бұрын

yeaaaa..... i noticed that too 😒

He's been arrested TWICE for this exact reason. He egged on some fan to jump off and he's paralyzed. Really!! Now it's 9 people dead.. one is the nine year old little small boy with his dad. His dad passed out n his son got trampled. Its so breath breaking.. He surprised his son who loved Travis, got the Travis Scott McDonald's meal, shirts etc. His grandfather called Travis out.. I think he said if you were really sorry you'd be here. So sad. Travis egged his own fans on. He n the team are responsible. 10 young people are dead. It's so sad.

They didn’t pull all his stuff out of fortnite, the shop rotates and they just didn’t put his emote back into the shop. If already have the skins/emotes you keep them

@420reactions7

2 жыл бұрын

As it should be, I hugely disagree with blaming him

@johnrossi6189

2 жыл бұрын

@@420reactions7 He deserves some blame, not saying it's fully his fault but to say he doesn't deserve *any* blame is very ignorant.

Joe spot on!!!!

Yeah people snuck in without tickets, but Travis Scott also encourage them to do that very thing before the concert. He said this whole recipe up to be a disaster… No doubt

Hey bro hope everything is well 😎

A lot of great comments here n I’m hyped to add my input. Since Joe wants to cover everything so will I. 1. “Ni**as die haha” yeah, people do die. Usually from bad intentions or negligence from self or others, which leads to 2. 2. Sure the kids were negligent but let’s look at the big picture. What kind of music is being promoted that influence these young impressionable minds? sex, drugs, violence, and chaos. 3. “Music is deeper, it has energy, frequencies.” What kind of energy are you promoting? Mosh, drugs, violence aren’t positive energies. You make and perform these songs knowing the content behind it. Energy doesn’t come from words but your spirit and it transfers. As a global idol, rapping negative energy to kids encourages them to behave how you tell them because you’re rich, famous, and popular. It’s simple psychology that people, especially teenagers will act what you portray because they subconsciously think if they act like that they’ll be like you and have all that you have. 4. You’re an (influencer) as a career, so your influencing these behaviors. If I was a plumber and rated as the most popular and I told y’all adding faulty pipes is the way to go and many died, it’s my fault. I was either stupid or had I’ll intentions. 5. “But all the money made from this”. This goes to greed and putting wealth over safety and human lives. Travis, you’re the puppet but you’re boss makes the agenda and his boss and his boss. You signed up to be the mascot for it and have money and fame because of it. It’s not only the rappers fault but EVERYONE in the entertainment industry promoting this lifestyle since Hollywood was a thing. Added note. The Illuminati was founded in the late 1700s and promoted many elites to this day because they were punished by the catholic priests seeing how they were a satanic cult. Notice how life has changed dramatically since then? Hollywood, cars, T.V’s, celebrities, fall of Christian views. Last note. At the end of the day, satan has been using others since the beginning of time and this is the last trick up his sleeve before time is up for him. Get right with god y’all, me included.

muito bom mesmo🔥🔥Parabéns🔥🔥

I blame everybody but before the show was out of control…

@KPnDC

2 жыл бұрын

According. to the Houston Fire Dept, things went wrong at 8:15am when the Police radioed for their riot gear to be delivered to them.

@user-ik5ze1sh7i

2 жыл бұрын

Also have to take into account the lock downs and how it primed us to be exploited at every level, from shifting us to a delivery only consumer base to everything

Great recap. I think coming back outside played a major role in the fall of crowd control.. dangggg 3something for a ticket is crazyyyyy. These mosh pits are definitely not for our Culture either. I wouldn’t attend one of these concerts for the Life of me. Still not blaming Travis tho.

@JimmyLaughsalot21

2 жыл бұрын

3sum for a ticket to a 2day festival to see Drake and Travis young thug Carti Uzi is not crazy

@marselisscott6702

2 жыл бұрын

@@JimmyLaughsalot21 Yo carti and uzi was there?

I hope these dudes on a limited contract because they are more of a nuance that cohost

Since Rory and Mal left... This is the first JBP episode iv clicked on... Fact... And its just because I'm studying this case in detail and searching all the content on it I can... Not because I'm a Joe Budden fan

@briannadaylon90

2 жыл бұрын

Yup it’s just not the same anymore

200k at nrg parking lot?? Where they get that from

While I personally wouldn't take a nine-year-old child to Travis Scott's AstroWorld Festival , I saw a video of the website where the FAQ section stated the event is quote "fun for all ages"

This is the best, most well researched take on this topic. Respect

@jasunsky3985

2 жыл бұрын

Do you watch Bro Sanchez on KZread?

@johnrossi6189

2 жыл бұрын

Well researched? They didn't talk about his horrible apology video (unless this came out before that?) Or barely talked about the things he tweeted, including the deleted ones he had. They barely held this man accountable for the partial blame that is on him.

@mattslocum5740

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnrossi6189 pretty sure it was before that happened because they only referenced the pr apology, he didn't come out with that video until a day or 2 later

@johnrossi6189

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattslocum5740 Ah gotcha.

@dankestranch8738

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnrossi6189 i think they did a much better job than other media. They mentioned it not being an 18+ event, "if my child died and I watched that apology it wouldnt alleviate my pain", they brought up the lyrics "it aint a moshpit if there aint no injuries", the understaffing and joe discusses that travis' fans dont know who he is because his team purposely hid that. I think it was a much more productive conversation than speculating on if travis saw people dying or not (which i believe he did)

Ok. I’m sorry I’m new here and this is gonna be a hot take so fuck your pitchforks BUT this podcast has been far more engaging with the new talent. I feel like there’s more level respect across the entire plane and it is a better listening experience. Am I the only one?

@rjm809

2 жыл бұрын

Yea Rory and mal are cool but don’t really have a personality it can be boring to watch

Joe MUST you control the fucking conversation EVERY time???

Hey Joe where you going wit that gun in your hand!

What concert was he watching, travis was chanting as they carried the lady away thats some weird shit

@BROOK69BANKS

2 жыл бұрын

💯💯💯

“Fam it’s a bigger take than Money Hiest”

It's not about over selling tickets or any of that this is what u call a sacrifice...

Travis, you're free to go.