ASOIAF Theory | Arya Sees Dead People

This is a video essay discussing the possibility that Arya Stark can hear and even speak to the dead, as well as how that ability could impact her story in the remaining two A Song of Ice and Fire novels. Raffey Cassidy is fancasted as the book version of Arya.
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  • @rycolligan
    @rycolligan6 ай бұрын

    All these years and this fandom is still giving me things to chew on. Thanks for this theory!

  • @dragoninwinterfell5213

    @dragoninwinterfell5213

    6 ай бұрын

    Thank you for watching :)

  • @danielmejorado6098
    @danielmejorado60986 ай бұрын

    The ability to speak to the dead or even hear them, could give Arya insight into not only the history of the Night King, but combined with her warg abilities could also lead to so many other possibilities. What do the weirwoods think about what is happening, what do the slain dire wolves think about their siblings who are still alive? Almost any situation where a truth was hidden by death, Arya could use this skill.

  • @YinYoo2011

    @YinYoo2011

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes

  • @Ciccigreen
    @Ciccigreen6 ай бұрын

    Fascinating theory! It’s so rare to see genuinely original theories!

  • @dragoninwinterfell5213

    @dragoninwinterfell5213

    6 ай бұрын

    Thank you! This is a theory I've thrown around a couple times on Tumblr over the years, but I hadn't seen it make much traction anywhere else. So I'm glad it was interesting for you :)

  • @stars-and-clouds
    @stars-and-clouds6 ай бұрын

    Idk if i still fully believe this is the case but it does make sense and isn't tin foil-y. I have chills. I love this theory. Also, what background music is playing in the background? It's beautiful.

  • @dragoninwinterfell5213

    @dragoninwinterfell5213

    6 ай бұрын

    The song is called Dreams of Greatness. I got it off of filmstock :)

  • @BeteBlanc
    @BeteBlanc6 ай бұрын

    An excellent take, very reasonable. You may have helped fill in a gap and answered a question I recently saw someone touch on. Arya's narrative heavily draws on parallels with Howland. If speaking with the dead was something he learned to perfect on the Isle, that could be the answer to what he did that helped Ned. What she's doing with the faces seems like an extension of the theme of hearing the dead. In some cases resolving a trauma left behind. These are definitely not just memories, and connecting them to the people that died makes more sense to me than the habit fandom has for laying everything on Bran.

  • @dragoninwinterfell5213

    @dragoninwinterfell5213

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes, I've been wondering about how Arya experienced the trauma of the first girl whose face she wore and how that will impact the story overall. I'm of the belief that the FM actively recruited her and that what they're putting her through is meant to strengthen her abilities, possibly for her role in the Long Night. It could be the ability that allows Arya to hear the dead and/or her skinchange that makes it possible for her to take on the face and experiences of the person whose physical skin she wears. IMO, all five of the main characters, Arya, Bran, Jon, Dany, and Tyrion will have huge roles to play in the climax, not just Bran.

  • @ThumbBandit04

    @ThumbBandit04

    6 ай бұрын

    Holy cow.... The Starks got their powers from Ned... But what was his power? They never say. But what if he could hear the dead?? Or talk to them? Why else would house Dane name a kid after Ned after he was part of killing their som? All he did was bring back his bones and sword. But what if the time he speak to the dead and he spent his time in Starfall talking to Arthur Dane for the family. That;'s why his mom and sister love Ned Stark so much

  • @BeteBlanc

    @BeteBlanc

    6 ай бұрын

    @@ThumbBandit04 I'm not entirely convinced the Stark kids got everything from Ned. A lot of the backstory kinda gets lost. We don't see it because GRRM doesn't draw attention to it. Why is Harrenhall so important? Why was it important to Arya? Harrenhall is/was the seat of house Whent. Arya's grandmother was a Whent. The Hearttree there may be as much a part of her as the one in Winterfell. She was speaking to her own ancestors in that line. The Whents are very likely connected by blood to the Lothstons. Honestly, with traditions like normally see a replacing family marry a female heir to solidify a claim, it unlikely but possible her history goes all the way back to Harren the Black. Yes, I do think part of the powers or abilities they have come from Ned, but I think it's a mistake to think it's just Stark heritage. Like the Targaryens, the Starks brought Blackwood blood into the family at the same time. The Starks are as much Bloodraven's family as the Targaryens. Where it all comes from may be more interesting than we think. Something slightly unrelated to emphasize my point. Samwell Tarly and Shireen Baratheon are cousins. Their mothers are sisters from house Florent. Robert's bastard Edric lived with Shireen, and Ned's bastard Jon made friends with Sam. It's actually really neat when you see it. As for the Daynes. I personally think most of what we think about the ToJ is distorted or wrong. The fact they've honored Ned points to it. You're right, it doesn't make a lot of sense. And Arya seems to be in the best position to parallel Bran by speaking with spirits Bran may not have access to in order to give us pieces of that puzzle. Unquiet spirits that never made it to Weirwoods.

  • @ThumbBandit04

    @ThumbBandit04

    6 ай бұрын

    @@BeteBlanc Had a long reply written and I hit backspace and it deleted everything. I'll shorthand my reply; GRM knows genetics. Does Cat have magic people in her linage? Bran and Arya alone would make me assume Ned was powerfuk himself, add all the other kids and the fact they all have at least some powers(does Sansa) and I am sure of it. If talking to the dead or at least hearing them is then Ned probably had this poower and it's probably why he spent so much time at his heart tree.He got guidance and didn't know it was actually from dead people. A Stark must always be i Winterfell... the crypts... maybe need a communicator to talk to the ancestors if/when they rise.so maybe it is a common power. Ned heard Bran whisper form the tree when he was time traveling the first time. That sinches it for me. it we alike a whisper on the leaes... Bran noticed Ned hear him as he was getting pulled from that time to be shown another thing. I really think that should be enough to actually dig around a bit more or clues.

  • @BeteBlanc

    @BeteBlanc

    6 ай бұрын

    @@ThumbBandit04 You are making the one rare observation practically no one else accounts for. The reason Ned heard Bran has nothing to do with how powerful Bran is. Ned heard Bran because Ned can. That's why other people don't hear Bloodraven, those people couldn't. BR was talking to the wrong people. Consider, Ned is not remembering Lyanna saying "Promise me," he's hearing it. The Stark, Lannisters, and Targaryens have done something for last couple generations that most don't do and the Targs stopped doing. Which I think accounts for an increased capacity to access magical abilities. This practice is resulting in strong magic and accounts for what we are told happens with greenseers. They are weaker and die faster. Being physically weaker or even deformed is counterbalanced with being magically stronger.

  • @jonathancampbell7798
    @jonathancampbell77986 ай бұрын

    Stoneheart had her throat slit and was left in a river for days. Jon definitely wouldn’t be in a worse state even with all the stabbing

  • @dragoninwinterfell5213

    @dragoninwinterfell5213

    6 ай бұрын

    We don't know what's going to happen to Jon's corpse after he's dead nor how long it will take for someone to resurrect him. There's no guarantee that it will happen immediately or at all. I'm of the belief that it will happen. But given the fact that two previous fire wights were resurrected before him, it wouldn't make narrative sense for the third fire wight to be the least impacted by their death. GRRM already doesn't like bringing characters back from the dead, as he has noted. That's why he makes the consequences for the character so severe. So, I do believe Jon will have a worse experience than Lady Stoneheart.

  • @Vmac1394

    @Vmac1394

    6 ай бұрын

    I think Jon will undo go some severe existential and spiritual crisis, but his body will probably be better off than Stoneheart's. To quote Maester Aemon, "Fire consumes, but cold preserves" and Jon is in an extremely cold place. Things barely decay when they are in the freezing cold, that's why ancient animals have been found nearly fully intact in the Siberian permafrost. Unless the mutineers bring Jon's body inside, he won't rot much. Perhaps they will throw him in the ice cells to mock him in death. As for Lady Stoneheart, nothing makes flesh rot quite as quickly as being submerged in water and Catelyn's body was thrown in the river either in late summer or early autumn. If Jon is the song of ice and fire he could be some fusion of an ice and fire wight.

  • @dragoninwinterfell5213

    @dragoninwinterfell5213

    6 ай бұрын

    @Vmac1394 I think it's best to speculate based on the author's beliefs and intentions. GRRM has stated his intentions when it comes to the resurrection of characters.

  • @brandonleehenry6393
    @brandonleehenry63936 ай бұрын

    Brilliant video, outstanding work! Thank you very, very much for this

  • @dragoninwinterfell5213

    @dragoninwinterfell5213

    6 ай бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @aprilmae274
    @aprilmae2743 ай бұрын

    I forgot to mention-Dany hears dead people as well. The 'ragged children' she can hear playing outside when she meets Khal Drogo; those are dead children. And for a moment, she thinks about joining them...most of the people in the story are already dead when the books open. Look closer at the carriage houses and why they are being used. And what castle walls are REALLY keeping out.

  • @hunteratops
    @hunteratops6 ай бұрын

    good video! i hope to see more asoiaf theories from you

  • @dragoninwinterfell5213

    @dragoninwinterfell5213

    6 ай бұрын

    Thank you! I have a list of different video topics I'm working on.

  • @mlawlor472
    @mlawlor4726 ай бұрын

    Well met! We need new ASOIAF theorists!

  • @dragoninwinterfell5213

    @dragoninwinterfell5213

    6 ай бұрын

    Hi there 😊 Thank you!

  • @eric2500
    @eric25005 ай бұрын

    She hears them. Soo much creepier than seeing them.

  • @PortsUnknown7783
    @PortsUnknown77836 ай бұрын

    Very good video! Thanks for posting.

  • @dragoninwinterfell5213

    @dragoninwinterfell5213

    6 ай бұрын

    Thank you for watching and commenting!

  • @eric2500
    @eric25005 ай бұрын

    She is the second most powerful warg in the story. She enters Nymeria's head every night, long distance.

  • @siscahormansyah
    @siscahormansyah4 ай бұрын

    I like it very muchhhh!!!! but your audio is very low.. I've turn my volume up till maximum and still couldn't hear many of your narration, I have to repeatedly go back. maybe you can fix it in the editing for the next theory. thanks.. love it!!!!

  • @arronjerden915
    @arronjerden9154 ай бұрын

    Oh, this makes perfect sense. What if this is a prerequisite to be able to warg a corpse? This is what the Others do, Arya is the Stark they are looking for!

  • @greygreensentinel
    @greygreensentinel6 ай бұрын

    The photos in this video that look live action. What are they from?

  • @dragoninwinterfell5213

    @dragoninwinterfell5213

    6 ай бұрын

    I used screencaps from Snow White and the Huntsman bc I like Raffey Cassidy as book!Arya.

  • @swayback7375

    @swayback7375

    6 ай бұрын

    ⁠​⁠@@dragoninwinterfell5213it looked great to me! The fan art too! Sean bean is cool but he was not a good choice for Ned, he’s too old and just don’t look like a stark The pace and editing is excellent, I like having the text on screen but it isn’t easy to read in that cursive font… it’s looks good but hard to read. Good vid! I’m subbing

  • @greygreensentinel

    @greygreensentinel

    6 ай бұрын

    @@dragoninwinterfell5213 I thought it fit very well

  • @eric2500
    @eric25005 ай бұрын

    I think Arya will kill LSH, and she'll be glad to die once she knows 4 of her children live.

  • @eric2500
    @eric25005 ай бұрын

    Gandalf of course IS CHANGED by dying and well, restarting. GRRM is wrong on this. Gandalf is also NOT a regular human. The Istari are creatures of spirit and or the will of their Creator expressed by the Valar. GRRM of course creates his own universe.

  • @aprilmae274
    @aprilmae2746 ай бұрын

    Arya is the Forrest Gump of ASOIAF, damn. She has all this information and no idea what it means. She can def hear Syrio and her father-I wondered if that is because they died in her proximity. The Syrio shit really gets me-like he warged into her purposefully.

  • @dragoninwinterfell5213

    @dragoninwinterfell5213

    6 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I think partof it is Arya being a child. But characters having information that they can't fully utilize or make sense of is a recurring theme in ASOIAF. Like when Tyrion first sees an unknown flying creature in ADWD right before the pole boat he's on is magically relocated to a part of the river they already passed so they could be attacked. There's no or very little reflection or explanation in why magic is going on around these characters.

  • @aprilmae274

    @aprilmae274

    6 ай бұрын

    @@dragoninwinterfell5213 Yes... it just seems with Arya that the info-plots that come her way are more...I know there must be a term for this that fits. A description. To me, her chapters stand out as a major dumping ground of crossing story-lines, past and present, that is unique. Even with Bran, for all that he can see through trees-he doesn't have that same story-plots, thought process, conjunctionesque "feel" that Arya's accidentally gleaned info-dumps have. When Arya gains a bit in experience, knowledge, wisdom to put it together-shite is gong to hit the fan for a lot of people. ALL the characters have information...but Arya has info and secrets that relate and involve her without being part of her and somehow are or will be. Arya is like Dany in that she is letting her gut instincts/feelings lead her as long as she believes her cause is just. Yes, she was likely lied to by the Kind Man in order to get her to kill the Thin Insurer at the docks...but it was a lie developed specifically geared to manipulate her internal sense of justice. Kinda like what Mirri does to Dany. Both are girls that lack the wisdom of experience but a deep internal sense of right and wrong. Yeah-the part of Arya being a child is the MAIN part. Arya IS going to figure it out. Sidenote-I kinda think Arya is going to be very disappointed with Faceless Men in general after she figures out Yoren was one of their hits. And if her father was initially on their list before Jeoffrey had his head snipped off. Arya can frikin warg into more than her wolf during dreams now-and she knows it. IF she learns that Yoren was one of their hits, and Ned, she is going to lose her efin mind. Faceless Men might have bitten off more than their God can chew in Arya. Arya has always been the character I personally relate the most to. Except I don't hear voices. Yet. She does though-actual voices that are instructing her. They are not her thoughts. I have read comments calling her a sociopath, etc. I really don't get the feeling that she is. She has a core that she will not compromise is all. I get the feeling that Arya isn't simply going to leave the HoBaW anymore than I get the feeling that Dany is going to just leave Essos without a reckoning of sorts. I am not the author so I can't say crap for sure. The magical-karma-science-gods stuff, like Tyrion's boat-ride, aren't the same to me. I mean it's more like how Tyrion figured out who Young Griff really is by piecing bits of random information together on his own. THAT'S how Arya would be IF she only had the wisdom of experience/knowledge and she will be there sooner than later. To me there's something more to Arya's storyline and it's access to piles of information that literally nobody else has. Or can have-not even Bran can see what happens inside the Red Keep, etc, or in Essos. Between Arya and Bran-daaaaaaamn! Throw in Sansa, for the Vale/Southron/LF information....and Rickon for info on wtf is happening UNDER the sea...{potentially} and then there's Jon. Whew. Lady Stoneheart-more whew. I feel like the Stark reunion is going to be AWESOME. I kinda get the feels that Arya and Dany might find common ground as well. Who will Arya be a sworn protector of, when she comes back to the North? Bran? Dany? Jon? Dany will have dragons. Jon has already died-so he has plot armor until he chooses to pass it on it would seem. But Bran? How cool would it be if Bran's Guard was made up of women? Arya. Meera. Brienne. Asha. Osha. Who else....hmm....Val? Maybe.