Shout out to the women street photographers out there. I know there are so many amazing women street photographers making great work out there. Unfortunately, when I was out in ‘filming mode’ for this video, I wasn’t able to run into any women photographers who were willing to be on video - we’ll get more women photographers on the channel soon, stay tuned!

@BOTGRINDER

9 ай бұрын

I really enjoyed the Melissa O'Shaughnessy episode.

@danicee

9 ай бұрын

I’m down to join for videos, just let me know! ✌️

@xxOmnipresencexx

9 ай бұрын

Not everything has to be so sanctimonious.

@stanb.5261

9 ай бұрын

May be particularly challenging featuring guys who compare shooting film to women who do it like an animal...

@simp2234

9 ай бұрын

We need to make Kodak to come back

This format is way better than a podcast. Keep going with this.

Feels more like film is abandoning us.

@magicwaffl3z

9 ай бұрын

100%

@CalumetVideo

9 ай бұрын

The cost of a roll of color film back in the 1980’s and 1990’s was about what it costs today when you figure in inflation for the past 30 years.

@raceface_m2579

9 ай бұрын

Definitely.

@jordanlaine7412

9 ай бұрын

Vision3 isn't going away...

@Menipeontas

8 ай бұрын

@@CalumetVideo How much was the minimum wage back then, adjusted for inflation?

One of the ways I continue to be unaffected by the rising cost of film is I didn't feel the need to purchase a $3K camera because it has a red dot on the front! My $300 Nikon does everything that Leica does and then some. My fridge is stocked, my lab does excellent work, I also don't live in a place where rent is 80% of my paycheck either so there's that!

I’ll continue to shoot exclusively on film until it’s no longer in production. I’ve tried shooting on various digital cameras but they don’t give me the satisfaction of the mechanics and processes of shooting film. Film gives me joy in a way that digital fails to offer.

@photoleando

8 ай бұрын

You do this as proffesion or hobby?

@BrittanyTaylor-dd4iq

8 ай бұрын

@@photoleando Hobbyist with some paid work when I have time to take it on.

I shot film, mostly 35mm, from the 1980's until about 2002. After I got the first Canon Rebel digital DSLR I got away from film. I have dabbled in portable 4x5 photography (wanderlust 3d printed camera), but mostly stayed true to digital. I've gotten to the point where I get the results I want with digital and I'm hesitant to go back to film because I'm afraid that I will just screw up a bunch of pricey film. But I do love watching all of the NY city street photographers do their thing. It's very inspirational; so thanks for everything you all go through to make photos.

Super interesting to hear all of these different perspectives and reasons. I've missed shooting my M6 a lot this year, so much that I've sold my Monochrom, but I imagine I'll still shoot the SL2 for the majority. The cost isn't bad with developing and scanning at home, but like others mentioned, the time is the real cost for me. Just can't keep up, I'm still working through my 2022 backlog.

Andrew with the Contax raised the question I always had about film in street photography. If you’re doing landscape or architecture, being selective with your shots is fine. But with street photography, it seems you will inevitably miss some “decisive moments” if you’re mentally restricting yourself for cost reasons. Maybe there are some very confident street photographers who always know in 100% advance which shots will work out, but I think most take split-second gambles.

@kostyafedot551

9 ай бұрын

I never shot two frames per street scene and often of any scene in particular moment. Rangefinders with framelines allowing this. But not taking plenty of shots and not going for the street often, it is nothing but showoff.

@tonywu5571

9 ай бұрын

No way of restricting frames for an interesting scene will make you a good streetphotographer. If I were shooting film when I have to take couples of frames for a fxxking interesting scene and people, I would bite the bullet. Money comes and goes way much easier than a good photography chance.

@anta40

9 ай бұрын

Stephen Shore's Uncommon Places was shot in 4x5 color film, yes? But the work is about umm... urban street photography, and not catching fast-paced decisive moments...

@ianhh23

9 ай бұрын

Film really made me more selective and I could not imagine myself shooting multiple rolls every day I go out, I don't need to be shooting photos of everything when I'm not really connected to what is happening. I actually only shoot like 2 rolls a month now and I'm happy with what I get, and in comparation when I go out with a little digicam I have most of the photos I take with it I don't really care (still I like to use it in specific conditions, certain days, and I have shot like 2 or 3 really spontaneous photos in moments I decided not to have my film camera ready but it was just out of luck)

@williamlasl

9 ай бұрын

@@anta40Yes, I meant street photography in the sense of dynamic situations involving human subjects. I guess genre definitions are ultimately subjective, but I think of Uncommon Places as mostly landscape photography where the subjects are diners, street corners, and hotel rooms instead of mountains, rivers, and oceans.

The best photography channel on YT without a doubt. Loved this one

My current relationship with film is through watching your videos… The last roll of film I shot was in 1992. 😊

I love the waiting that using film requires. I love looking at negatives, much more than a computer screen. I love what bw film looks like (as scans, digital and analogue prints). I love the surprise of seeing what is on negs and I love making a photo and then not checking the image right away. I feel this keeps me more present.

Great video Pauline, some interesting comments from the guys. This format you are using rocks, love the way you get out of the way when guys are answering or thinking about their replies.🙏🇦🇺🇬🇧😎Max.

I’ll still continue to shoot film. It’s what helped revitalize my love for photography. While I enjoy shooting with film, it’s not always perfect and I do screw up from time to time. Sometimes developing film will frustrate the hell out of me. I don’t think I’ll change anytime soon besides shooting less. Would love to see newer developments taking place that makes working with film a lot easier.

I'm old enough to have been introduced to photography in the film only days (Pentax spotmatic). I discovered street photography through the Vivian Maier documentaries, and jumped back into photography on digital with Lumix, Fuji and now finally I shoot with a Sony full frame camera. I do enjoy focus marked manual M-mount wide angle lenses for zone focusing but I also lean heavily into the eye-AF prowess of my system (which can focus an f/1.4 lens faster and more accurately than I ever could). I can see plainly in this video that "the club" definitely worships film, and none of the reasons are compelling to me. The "look" of film is nothing that white balance and parametric EQ can't trivially reproduce (assuming I cared enough about a certain color temperature and EQ to consider a picture inferior without it - which I don't). The most compelling of the reasons is the intentional process slowing. I get that. That said, taking up the expense of film for that process benefit makes me wonder - couldn't I just slow down as a matter of discipline, and pocket the savings? I think so. I have slown down over the years. I used to shoot 500 shots a day and these days I shoot more like 50, but later that night - on a good day - I might keep 5-10 shots, and simply delete the rest. Cost: $0 and the same time if not less time than others spend chasing the film dragons. @thiefofpresence

Man your videos are stepping up a notch. That intro was dope! But I’m shooting b&w regularly and treating myself to some color when I have compositions planned out. Plus I have a cheap lab that’s local which really helps.

One thing that has made me move from digital to film is photo archive, I’ve have film negatives I shot back 20+ years ago which i rescanned and very happy to have the photos still, As soon as digital come out I brought a Casio exlim all because of cost and ease of storing and seeing images instantly. But after years of shooting digital I don’t have that older digital archive because of hard drive failure and mishap deletions. So if you want to store you digital images safely be warned save the files in multiple drives and cloud locations, which also adds another cost to digital and the initial camera cost outlay. The cost of film has alway been expensive even in the late 90’s for me young and on a low wage. So I’m happy now to shoot film and develop and scan with my digital equipment. It’s fun but also requires space to develop which not everyone has.

Every time I think of shooting film again I see the price for Ektar and Ektachrome and that thought quickly dies.

@wylie_photo

9 ай бұрын

I've got some Ektar on the way at the moment, a few years ago I used to order around 10 rolls at a time, now it's 5. I think it's coming under armed guard...

@DeeRosa

9 ай бұрын

@@wylie_photo yup - I shoot film for personal things and it never sees the light of day but I do miss a $5 roll of Ektar. My favorite film for everything daytime and a great portrait stock for those with darker skin when pushed a stop!

Sony A7C + adapted Leica mount. Super small body (same as Leica), full frame, full manual experience. With my editing style, even artists can't tell my stuff from film. Best of all worlds.

@mi4936

2 ай бұрын

Such a bold claim; is there a reference to back it up?

@XboxTheBeatboxer

2 ай бұрын

@@mi4936 You can scour the internet, forums, look at charts and sample images like I did. A physics background wouldn't hurt either.

Excellent video and interviews, get a real idea of what's the sentiment among the street shooters. Well done and thanks for sharing !

It’s an interesting topic, I learnt on film when I did photography at college and I learnt to develop my film. I have been shooting digital for years now, I personally think it comes down to the person or work you are trying to capture. You will always have people discussing film of digital or what camera you use, it honestly doesn’t matter in my opinion as long as you actually enjoy what you are doing.

Great video and interesting insights from everyone!

I started developing and scanning at home to combat this. Sure it's a bit of an initial investment but once you get that out of the way, the equipment is yours and it eventually pays for itself in saving lab costs. The entire process isn't that difficult either and I really appreciate the workflow. Not to mention, you can shoot a roll and develop it same day instead of waiting a week+ for the lab to turn that around. The final nail for me to develop at home was actually USPS loosing my film not once, but twice.

@borderlands6606

9 ай бұрын

I process my own films, easier to do a batch than one at a time. Scanning is a pain that never goes away.

@bqfilms

9 ай бұрын

Developing is easy, scanning is boring, first 40 rolls are OK then you start to hate it.

@lunatalino1502

9 ай бұрын

Yup, I do my scanning with a Canon R5 and a macro lens. I scan a roll in about 10 min. It definitely depends on the volume one shoots at. I really only have a couple rolls a month so it’s not really an issue.

@slo369

9 ай бұрын

Regardless of the scanning process, you don’t find film too expensive? I feel like I’m buying a single vans shoe everytime I got one roll

Love shooting film. Also Im in my 50's so love the process so the relationship is still strong. If you love the process of photograping and tinkering and having something physically tangible and archival then keep shooting film. Digital is awesome for quantity shooting computer editing. Still do it. No longer pro but if film is what your clients want or the look you have to produce then keep shooting film.

Bruce Gilden in the background at 8:06 :D

@phratesriver

2 ай бұрын

wtf is that really jim

I'm from France. After my last trip to New York in september 2019, I started to shoot way less than I used to because it was harder to justify the cost when it's just a hobby. It cost me around 300€ to buy, process and scan 11 Portra rolls. Adding the time spent to properly scan my edit from those 11 rolls (as lab scan are only like proof prints to me if that makes sense). 2020 I only shots 9 rolls (3x TriX, 6x Portra). In march 2021 I bought a X100v for a trip in Greece later that year and I started shooting a lot again. Now I have a X-T4 in addition and digital is the only way I shot since I bought the X100v. I'll keep my M6 and be buried with it but I really can't justify the cost now.

I've been shooting film for almost 10 years now, recently went up to medium format just before the prices raise, so yeah.. i love film, love the lab work, love everything about it, but i feel kind of held by it as well, as if i had a digital camera to just snap away without having to put the money and time to see the images would help me to evolve my craft... so, ve been flirting with getting a digital. Awesome video man, great format!

For me it’s just a hobby for pleasure, being 58 I’m a bit of a relic. I was young when 60s and 70s cameras were new, so I can remember those around me using them every day. Watching them go through the process of light meter, shutter speed and aperture moving around for the best aspect held a certain sort of wonder and magic for me. Those things left an indelible imprint on my memory. All those like, Ansel Adams, Steve Mc Curry, Vivian Maier, Henri Cartier-Bresson, they all used film. I think Film has a parallel with vintage cars, and wooden boats, it’s all about the history and the experience of the feeling of living in the past, it’s the only way you can have the sense of experiencing what they did. Cost wise it’s like throwing money down the drain, but using them gives you an experience that is priceless. I have a Spotmatic, it was once described as the Volkswagen of cameras, a design icon affordable to the masses, I have a love of vintage VWs owning a 56 oval, so the Spotmatic was an easy choice. Own them love them and enjoy them at will, they are history that you can use.

I love everything you said about the Flow State, and using digital to get into the Flow and then transition to shooting film is fantastic. I think I’m gonna start with my Leica X1 or Ricoh GR Digital and then move to one of my film cameras to keep the Flow going. Appreciate you making this vid, Paulie!

@beansproutuncreative

2 ай бұрын

That was cool. That's exactly what my plan is.

my current relationship with film is 16mm. im in it hard, im in it deep, im in it cheap. kodak vision and tri-X with minolta 16p

Hey Paulie, Great vid. Helped me realise that I’m transitioning to digital too, purely to streamline my process. My first zine from film took way too long to make. My second on digital was a lot smoother. I still love film tho and will keep using it for the sorts of work that digital can’t replicate. Thanks. Awesome channel 🙏

I hate it when people use a camera as a reason to slow down. Surly it doesn't matter what's in your hand - it's your approach. Basically what you're saying is that you overshoot on your digital and you don't on film. The reality on film is that you simply have less space to fill so you think more about your picture, rather than overshooting on digital.

I shot with film from the 80s until around 2007 when I switched to digital. I swore I would never go back. I recently sent several of my analogue cameras to get tuned up because I missed the whole tactile process of film photography (waiting for results, handling negs, printing, etc.). So, I've since shot with a few rolls, which was an interesting experience, but the cost of the rolls, the processing (now I need to have the images scanned), has made me rethink whether or not I want to continue in that direction. Digital is so immediate. After watching this video (which was excellent by the way!) it was interesting to hear other photographer's experiences. The anticipated increase in the price of film is very disappointing because I think I would have bit the bullet otherwise. Great content and food for thought, as always Paulie!

Love the videos man! Just got into film photography. Could you do a video how you edit your scans please 🙏🏼

I have been shooting film as the only medium for almost 2 years now, except the odd iPhone photo. That being said, given the cost of film, I actually recently picked up an X-T5, and it pairs well with my xf18mm f2. Really love the quality and depth the images have with the latest sensor; it helps me feel like I’m not missing out when I’m shooting digital, even though the experience of shooting the Leica is way more fun. I’d rather have the photo than not, at the end of the day, and the medium is only part of the whole picture (pun intended).

Great video and format.

I was in the city sunday filming for my channel but i was pressed for time so i brought my tg5, it was nice to just be able to fire off a ton of random shots i may have hesitated on with film.

Great thoughts Ruben

My reason for moving away from film is the same for most of your colleagues in this video, finding the time to develop and the process. I have so many rolls I need to develop still and in houston we actually have a few local labs to get it done but still can’t find the time to do it. I have a good printer so I’ve been printing my digital images as a cop out lol. I love my canon AE-1 but I’ve been solely digital for a while now. Hope to see you out n about when I’m back home and in the city next month!

I used to shoot with my Pentax MV thinking what I was doing was cool. To me there is mostly the nostalgic value. It's as cool as watching VHS movies and rewinding the cassettes in 2023. Sure it does slow you down and makes you think more about what you shoot, but nobody is forcing you to shoot more then 50 photos a day with a digital.

I started to shoot film again when my twins comes to the world in 2017, Around 2019 I started to shoot more, mostly for family situations, but for street too. During the pandemic I shooted a lot... but now I am enjoying digital more. Using olds digital nikons. I will continue using film but more time to time. Of course I am not using as a professional. But I suppose that this trendy is arriving to the sames conclusions that 20 years ago happened with the whole world. Great Video Paulie!!!

Gr3x user here. As much as I love film, digital is so much more intuitive for street and getting those split second shots. Just more practical imo.

I thoroughly enjoyed this. I'm gonna go watch it again....

Agree with Reuben! The whole film process does something!

I'll always shoot film as that was how I started off in photography back in the 90s. I tend to keep it back for projects now and shoot digital the rest of the time. That works for me.

Female photographer here (20+ years). I still shoot film for passion projects and anything I want to potentially publish in a book or large print. Love it but my go to point-n-shoot model has a terrible case build so ive had to replace it 3 times by searching on eBay. The whole process is frustrating, time-consuming, and expensive. My go-to SLR is modest but I can get good results from. Film price + processing is the least-prohibitive issue for me because the final look is priority but im unwilling at this point to invest in higher end film camera and glass. My daily work is done digitally and those tools are where ive invested money.

For me it is the process. Black and white darkroom prints is one of the things I love.

I've only recently started with film, bought a Ricoh 500g rangefinder a few weeks ago. It's more a tool to improve my digital rather than a main focus, to slow me down and get my eye in. I've literally only gone through rolls, 3x Ilford HP5 and 1x Porta 400 and have another 3x hp5 to use. I'll see where I am after that.

5D CLASSIC

Really good insight in this one. I picked up film close to 2 years ago now, after shooting digital for 5 years, and now I do a mixture of both. Some days when I want complete freedom, I shoot digital. When I want to sow down and enjoy the more tactile process, I shoot film. I will say I'm sitting on developing 5 rolls right now because of the price, but that's just the name of the game I guess.

I have always bounced back and forth between digital and film and I also develop and scan at home so there has been little impact other than buying a few more rolls when I find a good deal than I would have in the past.

I’m using film as long as I can afford it. Another issue is the cost of developing, which is also becoming more costly and harder to find supplies. It’s why I try to space out developing and using a digital camera when I run out of rolls. Eventually, we won’t have enough resources available to even make film so we’ll have to make due with what we have.

In Los Angeles, it's hard to get into, and stay into the "Flow" I start off with my Ricoh GRiii - to get me into my groove, and then switch to Film, and start snapping away. Once I run out of "runway", or start to feel myself falling out of the Zone - I switch back to the Ricoh It's like... THE Ricoh is my Pick up Game, to keep me in shape and on point. But Film... That's the Pro Game I play week in, and week out

Just do what you what you enjoy and dont worry about everyone else

Here in Canada I just noticed a roll of Portra 800 is $38.99. Last year I got it for 23.99. I mostly shoot with my Ricoh GRiii now. Love love love that camera!

I've been almost fully analog for years, and luckily I still have a freezer full of color film. I'll admit that it's a bit expired, but it still works so I'll be doing color until I run out. Then, I'll most probably go back to B&W, though I recently got an old digital Olympus Pen for which I have batteries in the mail. So we'll see. Last time I was at the camera store and I saw the price of Portra, I must admit that I almost cried.

Interesting insight. I’ve shot and printed so much film over the years, but moved on starting around 2008 and wouldn’t go back now. Just some occasional black and white 6x6 on the Hasselblads which I still have a full kit. The Sony just frees you up to explore all the possibilities and get right back to shooting new material. The printing is where it’s at for film and I broke down my enlargers and have no desire to restart all that. Shooting 35mm film really serves absolutely no purpose today except nostalgia. 6x6 is still a real high quality classic format with a tactile experience that can yield amazing results in the end, so I hold on to that. YMMV of course, Cheers!

Great video' keep the good work. I shot film over 40 years. When the digital camera just came out I didn't like / use them, something was missing in the experience. I bout my first digital 3 month ago, Fuji XT30-II. I like the simulation and I like the results. I still shot film, B&W, but getting into the the digital world make me more free with just shutting around and have fun. Film is not going away for me but I'm open more to digital.

Thanks Paulie another gem. Not as clear cut as I thought it would be (assumed more would be going digital). I’ve just gone the other way (100% to film), because I stopped being a working photographer (it was my second career and I hated the studio work that paid the bills). Digital just isn’t something I enjoy shooting when I’m shooting for me. And I’ve tried everything: Canon, Nikon, Fuji, Sony, Leica. I just don’t get the joy from digital that I do with film. Were I still working it’d be different of course. So I went back to film a couple of months ago, and it really relit my fire. Could. Not. Get. Enough. But I also couldn’t afford to shoot as much as I wanted to. So I got a Fuji and thought it’d be ok because I was enjoying photography again; the medium wouldn’t matter. But that lack of constraint, the paralysis I get with too much choice, quickly killed it for me. Shot a couple of thousand frames in a month and a bit and don’t remember or like any of them. So I sold it and I’m back to film again. I’m way more a doc photog than I am street so I don’t have the tempo a street photographer would have, but I’m happy to take the hit because I LOVE that physical, tangible process that imposes so many constraints. And as a ratio of frames shot, I get way more keepers with film than with digital so it makes some kind of sense.

Cartier bresson shot around 15,000 rolls of film in his entire career at Magnum ( they were numbered for easy access in the archive ). He missed an awful lot of shots and captured a load of others. There was no other choice back then. Perhaps he would have shot digital if he was starting out now - however I still think maybe he would have only shot 15,000 rolls worth of material and maybe had the same success rate? His bank balance would have been only slightly better off in the early stages of his digital journey ( have you seen the price of a Leica M11?) but eventually that would have paid for itself. The lenses would fit on any of his subsequent cameras. Digital has reached it's high point now so it makes sense to shoot with it. The quality is great and cannot really get any better. The cameras are great too - in all different shapes an sizes too. Having said all of this - I shoot street photos in London on a Plaubel Makina 670 and W67 and limit myself to 20 photos on each trip out. I know what I want so I don't waste time shooting what I don't. I love not knowing if I got the shot. I love to trust to the pure chance of not getting the shot rather than hosing down a scene which anyone can do. What is the point of that ultimately? If I was young I would buy the cheapest and best digital camera out there and go and make a zillion mistakes. As I'm old I can wander aimlessly and let a thousand pictures go as I know none of them is really going to fundamentally matter that much to nearly everyone on the planet except me.

I'd love to see a comparison/showcase of your work with the ricoh and how it affects your work rather than specs.

Picked film up recently and have been driving a Nikon F3 and having fun. I carry both when out and what I'm getting from Film I really enjoy. The grain from the TMAX 400 is awesome and the color and look from some Ektar is hard to reproduce in digital. 5% film, 95% digital. Manual focus is harder than it should be. Thanks for this vid. Really appreciate it!!!

Best recommendation to everyone thinking of buying Ricoh Gr. Don’t buy it! You could just as well use a iPhone. If you want a pocket type of camera with great colors and depth go for the Leica CL/TL2 with the TL 18mm or TL 23mm or adapt your analog lens to it.

Great perspectives. First pro 400h, then portra... now hp5 😪 It's getting brutal out here.

I was shooting film in the 90’s when a roll of film was £1.50 for a roll of Kodak VR film. I kept all my film cameras in case one day film would make a come back. It did. I shoot Nikon FM2N and May favourite Minolta XD7. Love that camera. I shoot Leica Q and Fujifilm X100T and F. I’m definitely a hybrid shooter. Luckily though I work at a Fujifilm UK so get to print and scan my own work. I just hope Kodak keep going as Portra and Kodak Gold are my go to film stocks. Prices here are about £23.00 a roll. I can get it for £9.00 a roll. I used to shoot weddings on film back in the day. Love your channel.

It's hard to get a consistent look shooting hybrid. The digital stuff looks fine, as does the film, but they clash as a single body of work.

@user-ti9zc1xv2b

9 ай бұрын

Exacty beautifuly said

Dope vid!

Man. What a time to start getting into film photography lol. I just started getting into photography as a whole like 3/4 months ago.

My passion for film is not about cost. It is my food and my drink. Just because food prices go up does that mean i do not eat. No it just means I sacrifice other things so that I can eat. Things always level out in the end, just gotta hang in there and love your passion. #shootfilmstaybroke .Amen.

As someone near Reuben's age he hit it spot on for me. Same debate decades ago as digital became the norm.

The only way I can justify working with film still is my ability to dev+scan myself at home with my own equipment. I think if you're a film photog and don't do any of the post processing yourself and pay to send it all to labs, you're fighting a losing battle financially. Especially if you don't get paid to photograph, or its not your primary source of income. I imagine many, many people are not in that posistion.

@antoniogrijalva2038

9 ай бұрын

I shoot film as a hobby and you’re so right, I got 3 color rolls developed and scanned and it was a total of 40 dollars. I just bought one of those develop tanks and a ilford b&w dev kit but I’m afraid to ruin my b&w rolls cause I have no idea what’s in there lmao. I still need to grab a few more tools before I get started tho

@SpookyConcepts

9 ай бұрын

@@antoniogrijalva2038 shoot a sacrificial black and white test roll to learn development with. Developing your own black and white is really easy once you know what to do

I grew up shooting film, mainly B&W, which I printed myself. However, since the arrival of digital, I personally don't see the need for film. With all the software available these days, the end results produced are as good as any film can deliver (IMO). I think film photography is a bit like owing a classic car; it's expensive, needs more T & C and it's slow. One for the diehard traditionalists (which by the way I think is great)

Good to know the GRIII is in good hands! Haha! Sold that GRIII to Dustin a few months back.

I’ve been watching your vids and it came to mind that someone should organize a combined show for these photographers. I think it would draw a large audience to see their work.

@seandavey7085

5 ай бұрын

Great idea

I always saw film like a toxic relationship , it's expensive , time consuming but you keep coming back for those 'vibes' And yeah speaking about toxic i don't think we talk enough about the environmental impact , i really love to see some serious studdy comparing film with digital from this angle

@seandavey7085

5 ай бұрын

I love the time consuming part of developing and scanning (and printing). That's such a good part of the medium (for some).

Grew up developing and printing b&w at home in the 70’s and 80’s. Bulk film loader, changing bag, process film at home. Darkroom in my grandfather’s basement. Still shoot the occasional roll of XP2, and tempted to snag a bulk roll of b&w and scan the negs. But in the end if you want to shoot film there is no substitute. Financial reality is you might need to shoot less, or eat even more pasta meals. Peace. Love the channel.

It's a really sad situation and it sucks that people that really want to shoot colour are feeling like they're either forced to swap to black and white or switch over to digital. There's clearly a demand for film, so why can't someone produce a cheap colour film and cheaper development techniques? Surely we have the technology.

@Yolligraphone

8 ай бұрын

It's much harder to make color film than black and white. It's extremely expensive and requires specialized equipment and chemicals that are difficult to source. There's a reason Kodak has been making the vast majority of the world's color film for the better part of the last century. They have all the equipment, can source the materials, and have had time to refine and perfect their processes.

@feartactics

8 ай бұрын

Because it's outdated and niche and dominated by 1 company. Anyone with resources to do that would probably be spending that money on making better digital photos if they want to make money in the photo space.

To your point at the end it’s the opposite for me on a typical slow day. I’ll warm up on digital then switch to film. That mainly has to do with location otherwise it’s be film. But for me I’m just finding balance and pace I’ll always love and shoot film. If prices get to nutty black and white film will be my default

Coming up on a year of shooting street photography and have only done digital so far with the exception of polaroids. Film has always been interesting and I love the look of the photos that film produces. But over time I've come to realize that the sort of minute details of how a photo looks has nothing to do with what makes a photo memorable for me. I think because my background is in engineering, I highly value the freedom that digital photography allows for when shooting (especially when experimenting with different settings) and I think with film I'd spend waaaaaay too much time and energy thinking about whether the photo I'm about to take is "worth it."

I started scanning my own film a couple of months ago and recently started developing my own film. i'm lucky i have space in my basement where i can develop and scan so its not an issue for me so technically i'm shooting more than i ever have. I mostly shoot black and white film so in terms of price i'm not really affected by it because price for black and white hasn't gone up much recently. When i shoot colour i shoot mostly expired film or film i get for cheap on fb marketplace so yeah. More life to film!

@mynewcolour

9 ай бұрын

I shoot bulk rolled 35mm black n white and process at home (rodinal one shot or Xtol replenished). Finding time to scan isn’t always easy but the cost is not much. £3 a roll plus £1 to develop and plenty of creative control.

A really interesting video on a really relevant topic. It struck me though while watching it - I always thought street photography was a bit of a lone wolf type pursuit, attracting less attention by working quietly alone. I noticed that you interviewed a number of photographers in small groups. In NYC is it more of a social get together type thing, or just for brief parts of the day. Seems like there is a real community of photographers there. Thanks for the video.

@BrandonPrive1432

9 ай бұрын

i've watched tons of his walkie talkie and it seems like they get together throughout the day, and there are certain corners that are like the favourites for street photographers so it seems like you'll run into eachother in the general area,. thats just what i've noticed, i don't live there just watched all this guys videos. i agree though i think its more a lone wolf thing, but meetups throughout the day for the hang.

I only shot film back in highscool. I love my GX85 :)

@raily9713

2 ай бұрын

i regret every day for selling it... certaintly a lovely camera to use

You play to the strength of each: digital for color, film for that special B&W project. You still can't beat the look of B&W film, self developing helps cut cost.

@PaulieB

9 ай бұрын

even that’s subjective. For me, personally, I like the look of color film and black and white way more than digital. But some people are great at editing their digital files to look good

@stanb.5261

9 ай бұрын

@@PaulieB Of course, just offering a... "logical" solution. Digital color is just: way cheaper, considerably more malleable for a variety of looks and oh so more convenient for a wider gamut of lighting scenarios. Conversely, B&W digital files require considerably more technical finesse to even approach the inherent beauty of analog tonal values.

Started my photography journey using Kodak Tri-X 400. Shot it for years, then went to digital. Never fully happy with the look. But recently got a Monochrom and we good now. Closet thing to my film sensei Tri-X.

Very interesting video. I shoot medium format film- but mostly m10m is the digital camera for me.

I started with film back in 1980, shot Canon AE-1 until all my gear was stolen in 1999. I tried some of the early PS digital cameras until I jumped into a Nikon D90 and I moved through many Nikon digital bodies, today a lot of my work is Sports Photography and my main bodies are D5 and D500, for studio and landscape I have a D3x. That being said, about 8 years ago I went back to shooting and developing film. I don't know if I would stop shooting film, for me it is the hands-on process of film that keeps me hooked. I have 6 or 7 Nikon SLRs, A Mamiya 645Pro TL and my favourite camera is my Pentax 6x7. I have a freezer full of film, 35mm and 120 and will keep re-stocking. I am not happy about the price increases but that won't stop me from shooting and developing film.

20:24 me too Sean.

I love shooting hybrid tbh, as long as you can transfer the method and process from film to digital (not easy but possible). I still shoot mostly analog but there are certain things I can do better on digital which after post will look indistinguishable results wise. But in the end the analog experience of shooting is still more fun for me, even if the results are similar.

What's with these photographers and not giving you a pound back? Damn man. 👊

I've just picked up film again, it's been forever and a day since I've done film. I was inspired to buy a Nikon FE.

In my time (40+ years ago) we used to buy film role in bigger package. Single plastic box with continuous role of 3 or 5 36 frames in one piece. Biggest packing was 30 meters long if remember well. Film need to be cut it in dark and wind on empty film boxes in order to use. It was easy to find end and start of each role in the dark since tape was narrowed already at right place. Part which will stay outside the box as starting lenght. But definitely it was much cheaper then fully packed single 36-frames role. Not all film types or brands were available in this option.

I was a part time wedding and portrait photographer from the late 1980s to early 2000s and I primarily shot Fuji NPS 160 (studio) and Fuji NPH 400 (wedding) then switched to Portra 160 and 400 when they came out. I started shooting digital with Nikons in the early 2000s. When I was shooting film a 220 Pro Pack was somewhere around $42-$46. Now a 120 Pro Pack is what $70 + ?? I took about a 15 year break from photography, recently traded all my medium format film gear for digital. Retired from my real job four years ago and now do photography because I love to do it. I hope those that want to continue to shoot film will have the means to do it and can continue to do it for as long as they want. If I ever wanted to shoot film again it would be on a special, limited basis. There's no way I could afford to do street photography with film only.

Great video! Btw what's your camera strap?

Hey Paulie ! You have to get a leica m digital to be free 😊(especially the m10D, a real beauty). The experience between the ricoh and a body with a viewfinder is not the same...

When I compare film and digital prices, I think about how many "rolls" I have to develop with the digital camera before it starts to pay for itself. Let's assume someone has an inexpensive analog camera and shoots color negative. They'll have to shoot hundreds of rolls before they've hit the cost of a digital Leica M. They'll only have to shoot maybe 50ish rolls before they hit the cost of a Fuji X100. As for me personally, I was mostly shooting film up until the dark times. And I did slow down mostly because of the price and hassle. I've stopped buying more stock, and I'm saving the film I still have in the fridge for the special occasions. I've also lost a roll or two to malfunctions just like 5innyc. That really discourages me from using it more, especially when the digital cameras I have are so good. It's a situation much like the Seinfeld sponge episode. Is this shoot going to be sponge/film-worthy? If and when the film in the fridge runs out, I might only shoot film again if it's black & white and I develop it inexpensively at home.

Using analog or digital is not important, the most important thing is to keep shooting and keep working.

I haven't shot film for quite awhile, maybe 2003, but even after the sticker price shot, I'm going to dip my toe in the developer again and use film occasionally for black & white shots. When I ditched my film gear it was all Nikon, but my first love was the Minolta SRT-101 followed by their XK, then down the road X-700. So I'm acquiring equipment slowly and try to buy a roll or two of film each week to stock pile should prices go any higher (and more than a couple rolls if I find them on sale). I hope the price of film drops as more people start using it again, or for the first time.

Great video! Curious as to what you have on the front of that GRIII...Adapter with a filter? Wide angle adapter? I loved shooting film and toyed with going back during the pandemic...but I can't bring myself to do it. I went the way of "vintage digital" (Olympus E-500) as well as my favorite, the Panasonic GX85.

@raily9713

2 ай бұрын

the Panasonic GX85 is a looooovely camera, pretty unknown and cheap

I've been shooting film for a long time now, but I've been transitioning to digital due to the costs. I can't afford 35mm film anymore, but I still shoot film with my medium format cameras where I work more slowly and think more about what I'm capturing.That's one way to enjoy both aspects of photography. The key is to keep thinking in terms of film while shooting with digital. BTW, why does it seem NY is the Mecca of street photography? 😅

I do find it really interesting the amount of people that would consider “shooting black and white” a step towards leaving film. If you’re mainly a color person I just don’t see the need to even go black and white for the sake of film? This is coming from someone who pretty much only shoots black and white… I’ve almost done the opposite where I’ve told myself I’d rather get a monochrom digital camera and then shoot color film when I want color. I find it’s easier (for me) to get my digital black and white images to look almost like my analog ones vs. getting my digital color images to look like analog color images. I consider switching often, but I just love the images I get on film much more, and always have. I bought an m9p around the holidays, I really enjoyed it. But ultimately I sold it off because the output just wasn’t what I wanted. Maybe a digital monochrom camera one day..

im that guy who just shot my first roll this past week. I live in Poland and my relationship started with super8 film during the pandemic but i was given my father-in-laws Zorki4k and yeah. black & White seems to be where ill be for now. thanks for your videos.