"EVERY DAY, EVERY TIME, EVERY SECOND"- gentle beast Hoseung 🤣🤣🤣

@Kt-cn2rq

2 жыл бұрын

😆 didn't he say he wasn't a beast with that period pain machine.

@jlfilip

2 жыл бұрын

and it just happend that the pillow is there xD

@jllum

2 жыл бұрын

This can be a song.

@chocchipcookie2561

2 жыл бұрын

"I can do this all day!"😏👀

@baldibaby7855

2 жыл бұрын

@@chocchipcookie2561 back it up back it up (lmao make a wish)

Virginity is a very tricky subject. In my country, virginity is a sign of virtue but for the female only.. Men always pick virgins as their spouse and will be so disappointed and bitter if the woman is not a virgin.. but the same men go through a bunch of women, having casual sex. Society really think that men can do whatever they want because they are 'men'.

@hend-yasser

2 жыл бұрын

In mine too

@Ichigo-dh9rd

2 жыл бұрын

:(

@fgnzm1929

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder where you live?

@user-hc8vi7bv7x

2 жыл бұрын

@@asuicuneontheobx823 virginity does exist, it isnt just about the hymen, it means you never had sex

@AsianSP

2 жыл бұрын

@@asuicuneontheobx823 now I know, why my father doesn’t want me to do those things especially riding bycicle. Well virginity doesn’t just speak about your hymen but purity itself from sexual orientation..

The amount of times they used “delicate” and “careful” in reference to women hahah I was like who’s gonna tell them that’s not true🧐

@ek3415

2 жыл бұрын

@Waldel Martell actually yes, experiencing something that is integral to yourself will do that for you

@stancrackheads8807

2 жыл бұрын

🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭 they will know when its time for them to know😉😉😉🤣🤣🤣🤣

@evaristedudas7250

2 жыл бұрын

@@ek3415 Lol you think being a woman means you need more about other women than men do? Women are not a monolithic group. They are people. And people are all different. You are not qualified to lecture these guys about women you don't personally know...

@ek3415

2 жыл бұрын

@@evaristedudas7250 Your point is exactly y that generalization was wrong :)

@ek3415

2 жыл бұрын

@@lamma746 don’t assume one culture has one type of woman 🥴

As a dude, I'm not always up for sex. Honestly, this is kind of a dangerous misconception. As a man, if I can't "get it up," then I might be seen as broken or underperforming. And from a girl's perspective, she shouldn't have this expectation, because then she'll get hurt when her partner just isn't feeling up for it. Being in a constant state of horniness is just exhausting.

@Kt-cn2rq

2 жыл бұрын

Haha how old are you to be worry about this. Honestly be careful if do get in mood once in a while and your girl knows this she make sure squeezed you dry going for seconds later on.

@matildedallacasa9598

2 жыл бұрын

yes, I think this "horniness" just reflect the stereotype of manly men while the fact that a woman needs time, care and to set up a mood is the other side of the coin. They are just archetypes, but they are changing, luckily. I think that now is not scandalous that a woman posses sex drive and a man has feelings.

@upthedown1

2 жыл бұрын

Hmmmmm this concept is unknown to me 😉 Seems to me most men Are in a constant state of readiness🧨

@upthedown1

2 жыл бұрын

@@asuicuneontheobx823 😂🤣

@sherrie5373

2 жыл бұрын

I had a bf who wanted to do it literally everyday. Not kidding. So freakin annoying. Broke up with him. I think he needs to see a doctor bc he was beyond excessive

I think the drive to have sex depends in the person and not in the gender. If you are a man or a woman it doesn't matter, those are just stereotypes.

@nagual1992

2 жыл бұрын

Individualism is great… Except when trying to establish broader trends. If aliens asked what the males and females of our species were like, we wouldn’t show them: some tall, buff, female UFC fighter woman and a short, scrawny dude in drag. For example.

@winterxiii

2 жыл бұрын

Of course sex-drive is individualistic at the end of the day, but that doesn't mean there aren't biological factors that play into it. It isn't necessarily a discussion of gender as it is about biological sex. Just like every organism, we are designed to reproduce, and like most mammals, biologically designed to seek it out more often. Sociological factors do play into things thanks to our intelligence, and that development means that there are a lot of variables between people of both sexes and all genders; but it doesn't refute that on average, by a substantial margin, biological males think more about sex, as well as masturbate more frequently because of it. And the studies have shown this from all sexuality and gender group testing. Again, this isn't to say that biological females can't have a higher sex drive, nor does it mean anything for gender identity and sex drive ultimately being worse depending on your gender as sociological factors will always play a part in it. Eventually, science will probably become advanced enough to manipulate the physiology of biological males and females, and then it really won't matter and we can truly say that it is dependent on the individual (or I guess those with just higher testosterone levels and whatnot that contribute to the more innate form of sex drive).

@anjaneyareddy6946

2 жыл бұрын

Bro they aren't stereotypes. Testosterone is the sex hormone. Since it's greater in men, they do have a higher sex drive bit ofc there will always be exceptions. Some men may have low sex drive and some women may have higher sex drive. It's science.

@rivkavermeij

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@rivkavermeij

2 жыл бұрын

@@nagual1992 if they asked for females and males, I'd purely focus on biological differences etc 👀

Heejae always makes these videos better. She is so animated and voices her opinion, plus her cool facial expressions (on that beautiful face).

3:44 “good for touching” AHAHAHHA SHE SAID IT SO CASUALLY I LOVE HER!

@karensantos5421

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget the hand gestures, that made that moment even more hilarious! XD

@super_siri

2 жыл бұрын

She's not wrong though.

Asking tough questions definitely are important to better communication and understanding. Entertaining episode 🙌💯🕺💃

I love how straightforward and blunt Heejae is, especially making them flustered when she held out her hands in a “certain” position 😂😂

@xcel4924

2 жыл бұрын

I dont want to like this comment and ruin the '69' But sombody is gonna do it T_T

When hejae said all women would want their partner to go gently with them..... Me: *coughs* sis...you're missing something...*coughs*

@offline_trina

2 жыл бұрын

I’m weak but you not lying

@zayyadibrahim9084

2 жыл бұрын

I was like i know damn well dem girls like it the other way

@charlotteowo4313

2 жыл бұрын

im a lesbian so it proves that many women are not gentle

@crystalbeljewels6981

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂

@bekcha4170

2 жыл бұрын

Ikr. Who’s gonna tell her 👀

The "we don't know what our partner experience" tells me that they don't talk about sex with their partner. Which i think is someting that every couple should do.

@danylvrr

2 жыл бұрын

Not every couple, many people are ashamed to talk about it..

@Krystal109

2 жыл бұрын

What concerns me is that it was about virginity... something you 100% will know about the first time a woman has sex, even if you didn't discuss it beforehand.

@Applebodem

2 жыл бұрын

@@danylvrr yeah sad but true

@editazilinskyte3681

2 жыл бұрын

@@Krystal109 no? How would you know?

@lena8619

2 жыл бұрын

@@Krystal109 wdym how would you know without discussing it?

I feel like it's dangerous to apply stereotypes to genders. I've heard many men say that no, they don't think about sex all the time or crave it all the time. And then they feel like less of a man because "society" makes it seem like that's what they're supposed to want. On the opposite side with women, we DEFINITELY have sex drives and urges. We think about sex. We crave sex and intimacy. And a good amount, too. However, a lot of women feel they have to be self-conscious or quiet about their desires because society is quick to label them as "sluts" or "promiscuous". In reality, it goes more on an individual basis as opposed to gender (as you also have to take into consideration people who do not fit within the "male" or "female" spectrum, or they fit into both). It is changing, however. And a lot of people within the younger generations are a lot more open and honest about sex. This is coming from a 23 year old American female perspective though, so I find it interesting to see how people of different cultures and backgrounds discuss the topics of relationships, sex, and intimacy.

@bekcha4170

2 жыл бұрын

OMG YES 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I’m a girl and I was always conscious to talk about masturbation or watching porn because it was such a taboo topic. Thankfully my friend opened me up to it. I also agree that it’s dangerous applying stereotypes, it rubbed me off the wrong way, especially the ones that I personally had forced upon myself. I’m glad that it’s changing tho. They definitely have more stereotypical views but that’s probably because of their culture. Especially woman’s view, from what I’ve seen as a kpop fan for years, the imagine of a woman they described quite fits the standards they have there for girls. (From what I’ve seen at least)

@kaybee2199

2 жыл бұрын

@@bekcha4170 I agree, I’ve been thinking the same thing. It goes to show that South Korea is still quite conservative, especially by American standards. I’ve watched quite a few of their videos and while I, for the most part, enjoy them, you can tell that their culture and upbringing influence their opinions on certain topics. I try to take it as a learning experience, at the end of the day.

@Louffydances4life

2 жыл бұрын

This bc their responses are just based on what most cishet pple were raised into and what they soaked as knowledge

@RaizanMedia

2 жыл бұрын

It goes on a more individual level but gender plays a huge role into it because of the biological factors. Humans are still animals, we have evolved immensely in the cultural aspect because we are the most intelligent species on the planet but we still have a fair share of biological factors dictating the way we act. Men tend to have a higher sex drive because reproduction is the end goal for all life and mating for men isn't as dangerous as it is for women. Women tend to have lower sex drives because reproduction is very time consuming if pregnancy occurs plus it puts women in a more vulnerable state. That's easily seen with the way many mammals give birth to essentially mini versions of themselves which have the capability to be independent very fast. In comparison, a human baby can't survive in literally any scenario without someone

@Louffydances4life

2 жыл бұрын

@@RaizanMedia where u getting all ur facts from bc who lied to you 😂 u say it’s based on individualism then say men tend to have more this than women do when it’s the opposite too

It's interesting to see their reactions to these questions as a foreigner. We talk about it nonchalantly but it makes other people turn red. I would like to ask the guys: -What would they consider is Their "perfect boob size? Or butt size" - Dating younger or older women, yeay or nay...how much of an age gap is too much? - What are things that turn them on that girls do without knowing they do it? Same for the female lead, what is something a guy does that you find attractive that he may not be aware he is doing? - What do they consider to be "attractive" vs a "turn on" Can they be specific? Also, as a general norm among their peers?

@blessedeternally2666

2 жыл бұрын

Good questions

@moon-ds9ym

2 жыл бұрын

interesting. but the last question though, i never really think about it. i just thought attractive equal a turn on and vice versa. if i don't see them attractive that it can't be a turn on for me whatever happen or they do.

@coriaan

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree. I also would like to hear "out of the box" questions.... 😉 And answers...

@xcel4924

2 жыл бұрын

Personally, love it when a guy touches his nape or side of the neck..

As a woman I know several guys who are less often horny than their gf or don't get horny at all when they're going through a rough patch and there's absolutely nothing wrong with them. For the sake of everyone I think it's time we stop seeing men as wild sex beasts. It can also be a source of a lot of troubles: I've had female friends who told me their bf didn't get horny often and that made them feel really really insecure about themselves or if they were attractive to their bf because a guy is supposed to always be up to it. I wish we would really stop seeing (and pressurizing) men like that. So many men end up believing they have a problem because of that kind of stuff.

@ShivamKumar-bd3sx

Жыл бұрын

Nicely explained mam. And the last line you said is actually very true some people thing that way and they end up losing their virginity and then regret it .

@andromeda2420

Жыл бұрын

These stereotypes are really hurting😢

6:23 OH NO "Make A Wish" by NCT started playing in my head lol BACK IT UP BACK IT UP

@krishnakishore2435

2 жыл бұрын

Same here...

@kalynata925

2 жыл бұрын

SIS SAME

@Lucy-nu5iu

2 жыл бұрын

Same hahaha

@nara9389

2 жыл бұрын

I was looked for this commㅋㅋㅋ but the lyrics changed in my mind from all day to all night😅😂

@julesishere7836

2 жыл бұрын

@@nara9389 I see you girl, I know what you mean... Oh my gosh that version is even more 💀

I wouldn't say we're ready at any time, but we certainly tend to be ready to go more often than women. I think we have a lower threshold for getting to that point. Also the virgin thing, for some it's this weird purity thing but based on what I know from other guys it's more about not wanting to be compared to other men in bed, don't want to feel inadequate or something of that nature.

@jacksonpark4246

2 жыл бұрын

when'd you learn the language of facts?

@PokemonTrainerRed01

2 жыл бұрын

It's definitely the inadequate and comparison thing. personally, I don't think people should compare their partners to their Ex's. What matters is if you feel satisfied or not in the moment and what they can do better/change. My GF used to compare a lot and it's like Why are you even bringing him up?

@shotabdi4868

2 жыл бұрын

ahh

I don’t think men are always in the mood. Just like sometimes the man wants to have sex but his girlfriend doesn’t at that time, it can be the other way.

@keithmoh1

2 жыл бұрын

You obviously never been a man.

@keithmoh1

2 жыл бұрын

@@asuicuneontheobx823 My two kids say that I have.

@eehyetti

2 жыл бұрын

@@keithmoh1 not all men are the same

@victoriantekpere7542

2 жыл бұрын

@@keithmoh1 What a comeback! 🔥

heejae completely laughed like kim jisoo and sounds like her too

These are super interesting! Their attitudes are so different to mine, like they seem to think men and women are so predictably different which is wild to me 😯 Also... "EVERY DAY, EVERY TIME, EVERY SECOND" is gold 😂

Hoseung is such a sweetheart when it comes to understanding women's menstruation struggles. I mean, he was like "It's where you become a princess."

I think it really depends on the comfort level between partners and how long you have been together . My husband and I vocally tell each other when we are in the mood. Thankfully we are compatible so it’s good.

I love how Heejae is not afraid to express her opinion , she’s so cool , open-minded and natural :D

Amusing. This is a good trio. There should be a part 2.

04:55 Heejae cries 'Havoc!' and let slip the dogs of war. Then she sits back laughing as the men scramble for cover.

Heejae’s introduction voice is sweeter than honey.

It's so entertaining to see you guys together, looking forward to more.

Menstruation and the "You have to be absolutely still" cracked me up

Y’all were so honest bruh respect🙏🏾💕

just for future videos like this, please make the subtitles stay a bit longer and use dialogues because I didn't have the time to read them xx

@samnkyle

2 жыл бұрын

I thought it was just me! I had to decrease the play speed to .75 to be able to read what they’re saying and still pay attention to their expressions!

@hanboobok

2 жыл бұрын

I feels the same :(

@nojobforme2996

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@TheRainbowDragoness

2 жыл бұрын

I had to decrease the speed to read them. The conversation does seem to move very quickly.

@zuzu6864

2 жыл бұрын

I think it would be hard to do that because they talk fast

A question you can't ask? No..its a question you must ask, along with, are you disease free, and when was your last medical check up

@Krystal109

2 жыл бұрын

Facts.

"EVERYDAY EVERTIME EVERY SECOND"!!! lol

OMG!!! I love so much your program,its amazing🙌🏼❤❤

5:57 Hoseung smirking when he heard "beast"

LMAOOOO I was curious about the question they answered really well!!! Laughed so much love this channel!!

1:39 My man finally being honest, lol.

@taehyungsgirliee

Ай бұрын

😂😂

Communication is always the key, cliche but true.

4:38 my thoughts on it are: 1. An intimate relationship is where you will most likely develop trauma from. Most people don't deal with trauma. So avoid that extra difficulty in a relationship. 2. I don't like dating casually, only with the intent of marriage, so someone who thinks the same is likely to be inexperienced. 4:51 so for these guys who seem more casual (not looking for anything specific and accepting things as they happen) it is likely less meaningful. 3. I find first experiences to be the most meaningful. I want to share as many of my first experiences with her, and for her to do the same with me. 4. It shows me where her mind is and what she values more (when combined with other things). I like a girl whose open about her sexuality, but does she value it more than starting a family? If yes, then we don't have matching values and I don't want to impose on her nor for her to impose on me.

@lifeline_

2 жыл бұрын

Also, on the point about trauma. I understand you have trauma, but if you don't work on it and move past it it will make me feel like sh*t. Imagine if I couldn't hold my own girlfriend, even when she's sad, because it brings back trauma... I risk hurting her just wanting to love her...

the guy in the white is beyond dreamy, he said nope I'm a butt guy and still made it sound so.... 😍😍😍

3:44 I love this girl she made laugh real hard 🤣🤣🤣

*"I can do this all day"*

@kalynata925

2 жыл бұрын

Back it up back it up

@musaviki783

2 жыл бұрын

Shotaro hit that line Ok bye🏃🏾‍♀️💨

@honey10tionup17

2 жыл бұрын

@@musaviki783 LOL

LOL, Heejae is not going to let Hoseung live down his "I look at the lady's eyes first" comment!😅 I remember that video (with the "eye tracker" on Hoseung!) Heejae was soooo done with his comment at the time! 😂🤣

they r so confortable talking abt these typa topic i love it

Special fan of Hoseung from Srilanka 🥺🥺😍😍🥰🥰❤️❤️❤️

Great job guys. Love it. The 3 of you are amazing 👏

The beasts are in defensive mode today lmfao 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!!

Hoseung is adorable when he blushes! Make him blush again lololol Love from Canada!

LOVE these videos❤️‍🔥 I have a really hard time keeping up with reading the captions though-maybe you could slow down the edits a bit? 😎

I love Heejae 😄💛 This was very good. I liked the honesty of Byungeun 👏👏 Hoseung trying to be a gentle beast but the beast revealed itself in the end 😆 It's good that men and women understand their different points of view

Wowwww I really wanted this video from awesome world 💜

Hahha I enjoyed this episode .... Heejae as always made me laugh and the answers given were just as funny....fun episode all around

There is one thing you guys need to stop assuming and that is just bc you're American, it does not mean you're sexually more liberated. Just like anyone in this world, you will find all sorts of people in America. It's not common to date your friend's ex. Yes, it happens but it's not common nor do we think it's not a big deal. So, please re-think about how you define Americans....just like you wouldn't want us to define Koreans based on the Korean dramas/movies.

@khushbuyadav8542

2 жыл бұрын

But I've seen in a lot of movies/ shows people getting with their friend's ex. So it gives us a notion that maybe it's more acceptable in the states. I'm sure there are all sorts of people but to me that idea is a no go.

@claylover9845

2 жыл бұрын

@@khushbuyadav8542 It's a "no go" for most Americans too. More often than not, what you see on the screen is not reflective of real life.

@berenice3626

2 жыл бұрын

they said hollywood tho not america.....

@claylover9845

2 жыл бұрын

@@berenice3626 Yes, but they mean Americans in general.

@berenice3626

2 жыл бұрын

@@claylover9845 how would you know what they'd meant, if they specifically said hollywood? they would've used the words americans/westerners if they did mean that.

Awesome Episode Awesome world 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

"You really have to be honest with me all right?" -- Heejae to Hoseung (because she knows he won't be honest)

Some men do prefer looking at a woman's face. So preferring to look at the eyes might be true.

@cheeseplease2832

2 жыл бұрын

Usually those types of guys are the guys that actually truly love a girl. Not those that are just aiming for a physical relationship but a mental one too. It's a guy that's aiming to marry that girl that he loves truly and admires her face. If you see a guy looking at your face every time and it seems like he is admiring you not your body, well it could have a high possibility that he likes your soul and who you are. Usually that happens between a man and a woman that have been best friends for a long time and respect their limits and friendship. They both know everything about each other and understand each other. I guess those are the most successful relationships and truly honest ones. Note: If a guy is looking at your face but mainly on your lips, well he's like the ones that look at the body. So nope not a true pure lover.

@billyclabough9835

2 жыл бұрын

@@cheeseplease2832 or he reads lips.

@atiredail.e

2 жыл бұрын

depends on the type of relationship they're looking for i guess?

Part2 with this trio!!! i love them

3:46 whoa....hey there be careful with Ur hands please......Byungeun🤣🤣🤣🤣

This was so funny, these 3 are the reason I subbed to this channel.

Thank you to them for being honest 👍

No, not all men think about Sex all the time. Just like women, we have a life with hobbies and issues we constantly think about. But I do think we get into the mood more easily if an occasion arises.

@bekcha4170

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, my girl friends in their relationships had way bigger sex drive then their partners. They were being quite stereotypical, also with how all women prefer it soft and gently and delicately. I feel like this kind of more traditional culture in Korea came out in this video.

I appreciate Byungeun's honesty and Heejae calling out Hoseung's eye bs straight from the very beginning XD

She just straight up bullying them 😂😂😂😂😂 I love her

Thanks, it was interesting! I can even say instructive!

Finally got to know about Byungeun's type.. 😂

The way Hoseung made his beast hands like a super adorable bear 🐻 😂😆🦋

I really love this guys

Hoseung is a beast! I love him 😂

I'll be very clear, I'll never date an Ex of one of my friends, because it would seriously change the dynamics of the friendship. In that situation there's going to people gossiping about it, did I wreck my friends relationship. I'll also say this, I never date a girl from my friend group. Cheating, I'll never stay or get back together with a cheater, because its a sign of disrespect.

it's the 'I can do this all day' for me🤣

This was a great episode!

I love this trio so much lol

Just Hoseung being iconic

hoseung oppa is funny like fam he is there calling himself a beast we get it hoseung Oppa

I agreed with what heejae said. You shouldn't change your attitude based on your partner's experience. But so many don't get it

Heejae for the win!

Really good questions..... But first time I heard those questions and answers. I love the way hoseung answered the questions...at the same time byungeun looks little bit shy in some questions that's so cute. Heejae sis so bold. Best wishes for all three. 🌹🌹💐💐

Ho Seung makes me happy. He is so cute... as cute always.

"I can do this all day!!'', Hoseung🤣🤣🤣🤣💔💔💔💔

The bottom line answer to every question about people is, "everyone is different and every situation must be treated uniquely and not the same." Life is simple, but inter-mingling with people is extremely complex. These people certainly show their age in perceptions to what they think the standards are between males and females. Trust me guys, as you get older, your answers will change from every day ever time ever second to.. it depends. lol

I’m like SOMEWHAT early so I wanna comment😘

I really love this trio😂

First like and comment 😳✌ Mom finally I'm first 😌

6:22 Hoseung really have to say Cap's line?! 😂😂 I don't think I can watch Marvel again without that perspective 😅

@mtasnimxlra7475

2 жыл бұрын

Steve roger 😂😂😂

I liked this video for it's honesty. maybe net time a video to see if Korean when prefer macho men to considerate men?

This was funny she had them a wreck trying to be honest😂

My colleague dated my ex, she actually dumped me for him and I didn't have a problem with it. Once your ex and you broke up, why do you have any right to decide who she dates afterwards? She can do w/e the fk she wants and u just need 2 accept it. Same applies to you, u can do w/e the fk u want after the break up and she can't do shit about it either. In this day and age, break ups and divorce is the norm so it went from being together for better or worse, in sickness or in health to be with each other when you're happy and break up and find someone else you're more happy with along the way. People much rather just "trade up" or leave the relationship anytime something negative happens rather than trying to work it out and stick with it coz its just easier to run away from problems than face them front on. People's tolerance has also gotten lower and lower to the point where you can now "offend" someone just coz you disagreed with their crazy opinion. One day these people will realize how fragile and shallow their relationships are then rather than looking at themselves, they're just going to "give up on humanity" coz it's everyone else's fault and have 10 dogs and cats coz "animals are better than hoomans".

@vichgold384

2 жыл бұрын

👏🏽 true. You get all the points!!!

Okay but I need Hoseung saying “I can do this all day” set as my ringtone 🥵🔥

I have that same ‘sugar’ shirt that I bought when I was in Korea and I feel strangely proud that I’m wearing the same shirt as a famous model.

Hoseung is too innocent for this HAHAHA so cute

And the White t shirt boy is Master of everything

Hoseung mentioning cheaters out of nowhere at the end broke my heart. I can't help thinking that he has been hurt by one of those

I really like Heejae's cool.personality around guys.. I want a friend like her 😁

Personally I think it’s fine if a friend dates my ex, things didn’t work out for a reason. Also because I’m in a small town I get there aren’t many people and we’ve all grown together so 🤷🏽‍♀️

Captain America reference is LIT🔥😂

Byungeun-nim is really mature and adorable 😊♡

I would love to see heejae in an argument. The way she talks and how loud she is would make it so entertaining

4:56 THANK YOU! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

Guy on a white shirt, what a man of culture.

i absolutely love their trio!! they are fun..!!

Heejae you iconic feminist queen ily

Hoseung 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Everytime, Everyday I like that dude trying to hide his nastiness with his innocent cute face but gets caught. I love Byungeun’s honesty