maybe im being negative but i feel like most mmos are doomed in todays world. people form opinions too quickly, and too strongly. people have too many expectations of what the game "should be" or what they want THEIR experience to be like. back in the early 00s, mmos were so fresh and new and exciting, it was a whole new way to play video games and experience the internet. its just tough to live up to peoples expecations in todays age

@SkorpioVenom

2 жыл бұрын

also people keep asking for new and innovative mmos but don't think about how hard that is. there are dozens of mmos now and theyve basically done everything you reasonably can. its like music, its hard to be 100% original like people want.

@B1ackWolf

2 жыл бұрын

I still hope this game will be great. And the way they are handling it seems great. Updating us regularly and each time it seems like they are coming up with better ideas. I hope they keep it up. Honestly ofcourse the game is gonna have problems that's a given considering the size of the game but I still think its gonna be awesome.

@penniesnnickels

2 жыл бұрын

I mean....New World sealed the deal on that mentality, don't expect peoples expectations/opinions etc to change after that mess of a mmo.

@Madd_Whack

2 жыл бұрын

@@SkorpioVenom dozens is quite the understatement.

@B1ackWolf

2 жыл бұрын

@@penniesnnickels asmongold said it best "It feels like a catfish, like it's too good to be true". Companies have fucked us over so many times we won't let our guard down, it's kinda of sad tbh. Lmfao

Having horns Blair up in the zone that the event is starting in, rising smoke or w/e would fit the event would be seen above the zone for anyone outside it. Would be as simple and immersion maintaining as tbat

the last talk they had about combat was that some of the animations werent 100% transfered over since they switched the engine to make the game run more smoothly. Id assume thats a primary focus though as a lot of the earlier work was all on combat systems. I sure hope so. lol

For the immersion of notifying the player for events, they could have NPC's talk about the uneasiness, have them gossip about bad omens, and intro it into an eclipse as was said in the video. The timer to get ready would be how long it takes for the eclipse to become full and the duration would be when it starts to disappear.

@chaosismyjam8187

2 жыл бұрын

The Darkening of the Sky is a good way too, it may seem a bit weird if it was for all possible events, but Destiny does the same thing and then it specifies what event and where via UI

@_Basler_

2 жыл бұрын

This is exactly what I was thinking, maybe have some people preaching that the end times are near and shit

@DebasedAnon

2 жыл бұрын

Idk how everyone is missing the obvious one: bells Have there be bell towers in every settlement and have the NPC's ring them and someone announcing it to other NPC's. Completely immersive, logical and pretty much unmissable.

@MuggleKarp

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe they could have clues/cues at first to give players the organic opportunity to discover, and communicate to others, the event is coming, then after X seconds show the notification, but making it so the sooner you find out the better as in a bit more advantage to defend the attack or what have you.

When Asmon opened his soda I was like: ah yes, his cope cola.

The game promises so much that I can't help but get Peter Molyneux flashbacks whenever people talk about it.

@slamchowder9509

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately most of the gaming audience nowadays isn’t old enough to know how poignant this comment is

@MrSanctuarys

2 жыл бұрын

I'm still waiting for Fable 4 no joke copium

@slamchowder9509

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrSanctuarys some dreams are worth having

@DragonMoth34

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrSanctuarys I want Black and White 3...

17:57 🤣 when Asmon compares how good the environmental changes look to the feeling of being DM'd by someone way out of league and immediately suspecting a catfish after being jaded by past trauma and someone in chat going "too immersive"

@Aztaable

2 жыл бұрын

you guys get dm'd? :(

I'm always surprised how much Asmon is still interesting in video games, apart from just playing. He is compared to some other bigger streamers, the one that watches by far the most gaming updates, lore analysing and all that shit

@you_tube6733

2 жыл бұрын

because hes trying to move off of wow. but everything else dosnt last lol.

@you_tube6733

2 жыл бұрын

@James Black lol.

@Magerquark

2 жыл бұрын

@@you_tube6733 you mean other people make him watch it ? I'm also surprised you guys still play wow. Retail is unplayable to me. Played tbc and classic for 3 months that was enough also

@you_tube6733

2 жыл бұрын

@@Magerquark nobody makes him. or anyone do anything?

@MitchJanssen1

2 жыл бұрын

True, i think it might have something to do with him being a succesful ''variety / MMO'' streamer. Most other streamers play whatever is meta / popular or might not be variety streamers.

In terms of immersive notifications, it's enough to just do environmental clues like how FFXIV uses special weathers to let players know a special boss fate has spawned somewhere in the region/map(Ixion). The "weather" isn't just like rain or thunder or anything, it can be any sort of area-wide phenomena like bits of magic accumulating in an unusual manner, rapid crystallization of primal elements, vertical tide inversion(like rain gradually dropping up rather than coming down... except "rain" would just be residual water from the land), etc. Great opportunities to throw in unique materials and/or items too(ingle-touched Sapphire?).

@Eleriol84

2 жыл бұрын

I could see how that could be insanely nice. Im imagining a ice type boss that makes the land around you rapidly freeze over and large ice crystals form. In unreal 5 something like that could be breathtaking

The "Goblins attack when not dealt with in time" reminded me of Log Horizon and that was rly awesome xD

13:00 Exactly what FF14 does with the Odin Fate. I wish the game would have more stuff like that.

@user-fv7jd4xj5n

2 жыл бұрын

Not even FF does that other than Odin, not that I remember. I honestly don't know why.

@baatargharl8905

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-fv7jd4xj5n Heavensward and Stormblood both have boss fates where the zone will have special weather when the fate is active. It was only in Shadowbringers that they stopped doing it. Since that was the first expansion where sky box changes was a major part of the story, they may not be able to code in both msq and boss fate sky box changes but that is just me speculating.

@AP-yy3ve

2 жыл бұрын

ff is a dead game less than 40k players and 20% are bots

@ecMonify

2 жыл бұрын

@@AP-yy3ve the most popular mmo on the market is dead? ok... maybe actually play it and see how alive it is for yourself. actually, no, stay far away from it.

When they think they're ready to launch I hope everybody can come together and just be like dude take another 4 months and make that shit flawless.

@DushanChaciej

2 жыл бұрын

you think you can make an mmorpg flawless in 4 months?

@Matt-td8pz

2 жыл бұрын

@@DushanChaciej no, but my point was even when they think they're ready I'd rather them take an extra 4 months to double and triple check shit than fuck up the launch. Didn't think I'd have to explain that...

@spicypotatoes301

2 жыл бұрын

@@Matt-td8pz people are too literal dont worry about it

@benr970

2 жыл бұрын

@@Matt-td8pz you shouldn’t of had to, guy was being a pedantic knob

I haven’t played or enjoyed an MMO since Asheron’s Call. Looking forward to this.

I love the sound of this. But as a life time MMO player new release have me jaded.

That notification idea is great!! What he said kinda sounds like when the Dolman Attack in ESO or when the Dragons or world boss are just out there waiting to kick your ass 🤣 .. I kinda love it but, it scares the crap outta me everytime 😆

Having horn/bells alarms in the castle and plus to that, a hypogryph/dragon raider who will flyby the surroundings of the castle blowing a horn and shouting "The node is under attack!" (maybe, the chief or whatever of the node, can choose what race the raider is and maybe, depending of the race, the raider will shout in his mother languaje, and, of course that shout will be writted in the chat of the players who enter the radio of the raider) This game makes me dream about so much possibilities in the future

I would say that maybe to keep noticing people and make It more or less inmersive, they can use a messenger bird that notice us when something is happening

Love the new t-shirt asmon!

Dunno if it's just me but I'm sick of these MMO's saying we have a beautiful world to explore, yeah so does every other MMO. I want to know how the combat feels, how much content there is to do etc etc etc

@MrMGR1986

2 жыл бұрын

This.

@wiccapowerify

2 жыл бұрын

The world is more important :p

@Yurio

2 жыл бұрын

@@wiccapowerify not really, lost ark has a pretty expansive world but all the horizontal content is just walk up and press g on a thing.

@alansmithee419

2 жыл бұрын

They can only tell us what they have to tell. The combat might be in a transitional period between alpha 1 and alpha 2 where it looks clunky because it's not finished. If they show that people will go "OMG combat looks so bad" and leave.

@electricant55

2 жыл бұрын

@@Yurio any world would be wasted in an isometric game to begin with

In regards to the events, I remember playing the old Dead Frontier game and whenever there was an "event" it would just have air raid sirens going off and you know shit was going down because everyone would be out front of the base fighting off the hordes of zombies

18:57 that's a real f***ing Scorpion King.THIS looks so good.

i love the 'other game background music he plays' especially a ffxiv shadowbringers music :D

Guys, just chill and wait for them to release...we dont want them to push it out, the the turd New World was. I hope its a great game and I will be playing the crap out of it but I have to keep my expectations in check. I hope more people chill with the hype train. Like Josh Strife Hayes says "dont board the hype train because it never stops where you think its going to stop"

15:12 It is literally Ionia designs from Runeterra (riot games)

The alarm at 0:13 triggered me

Everyone copying concepts from GW2, i started playing it a year ago and I'm so hooked. Its so good.

Excited to try

Love narc he is great content

Can't Wait. By the time it comes out my godpc will need upgrading. Their world event notification system just needs to be a loud lore horn and chat.

@sexyrupert4135

2 жыл бұрын

Your masturbation station

@GUNKKA

2 жыл бұрын

@@Purriah bruh this game is coming out 2030 earliest

Why is it okay for Ashes of Creation to take Guild Wars 2s world quest system, but it's unthinkable for World of Warcraft to take Guild Wars 2s mount system? Edit: I meant in relation to narcs other video about wow and that it can't simply take the mount system. I'll have to be more clear next time.

@chi-king84

2 жыл бұрын

He is biased af

@Kruegh

2 жыл бұрын

@@jontaii152 i think he referred to Narc's opinion

@wojciechgiza9277

2 жыл бұрын

This guy us obviously GW2 andy

what is the name of the extension he uses to manage sound in the browser?

You and Narc have quickly become my daily homies for hot news Intel, grab-bag reaction streams, and huge laughs and good debates on the topics we all love to cover. Thanks Bro for always keeping it real and givin' it to us straight! 👍😎 💯/💯 👏👽

The Unreal 5 update was also a really nice update. You could really see the improvements.

procedurally generated abilities Thinking: You follow paths generated based on your initial decisions, each ability is presented to you and by picking one, you train the code to come up with new ability combinations.

@MrRafagigapr

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe for a roguelike it may work for a mmo no way, the gem sistem in path of exile is probably a good compromise

the event system works great in gw2 but just not enough players to feel a real connections now a days

This guys video just makes me want to play Valheim again...idk how much content has been added but it may be worth a revisit.

I think we can give it a try

whats the name of that extension ?

Keep giving shine to narc. Dude works super hard.

@jacobwebb5371

2 жыл бұрын

Well arent you just a big, giant loser?

15:00 isn't that music from Valheim?

I watch that guys (Narc) videos a lot. Hes hedging his bets on Ashes, but i think he'll be a big creator in a few yrs. Hoping some of you guys show him some love.

@harmenschouten4370

2 жыл бұрын

like him too, he is a good guy

@shylectre

2 жыл бұрын

I thought that too, I'm also betting for him to grow big if Ashes of Creation is delivered successfully

@michaelnapper4565

2 жыл бұрын

@@shylectre Yeah. That's exactly what I meant. Though I still think he'll do OK because he'll shift to cover other stuff. Since Asmon has began to watch him on his channel, Narc will gain many viewers.

Trion’s rift concept of mobs running in and over running areas and taking over towns and areas. Then the community runs strikes to take areas back etc. which could work and even at endgame in areas until you get an explanation and the towns forever taken over. It can work. But if everyone is in a dungeon at main game time and it’s okay but how many people are online and such. Have a little story telling you that a Goblin army is building up today.

I think that for the most part its a good thing that people are on guard and that they should keep their expectations low. This way if they actually manage to pull it off, our dicks will blown out of the water, and if not then we can just say we were right all along.

Anything above 200 players in one place is going to have optimization/lag problems - especially considering how good the graphics are.

@WelshSwordsman

2 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure they did a 250v250 once and there was apparently no network lag. They definitely did 100v100s and there was no network lag.

@marcinzysko1653

2 жыл бұрын

@@WelshSwordsman i need to see it

@firecat4529

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcinzysko1653 It was in one of their monthly update livestreams. I think it might have been in the one where they announced the game upgrading to Unreal Engine 5.

@cptvtd-gg

2 жыл бұрын

You already got 1k PvP in planetside... And the intrepid guys who are responsible are from the planetside team.

@cptvtd-gg

2 жыл бұрын

The Mainissue is honestly to get 500ppl on a 10k server into one battle. I do not doubt the technical possibility but the playerbase on a anti cross-realm MMO.

i will never take any excue from game devs for not implementing X feature into there game, like this seasons stuff in AOC it has already been done befor by some random dude for skyrim, it was a ground breaking mod framework beeing able to switch almost all objects, textures and LODs in the world based on the game date, looks amazing

That catfish segment tho! All the feels!

Hearing Steven talk about how systems will work reminds me of Ion's/wowdevs philosophy of how systems should work in wow. It all sounds amazing on paper, but when it actually comes to playing that, it sucks balls. Hell it was the same for even gw2 when it was in early development. I hope thats not the case for AoC, but I'm skeptical until I see it.

@quoply6158

2 жыл бұрын

AOC is clearly based off Shadowbane which was pretty successful

Warhammer age of reckoning did the stages world event thing i think its cool

all im hearing from game devs lately is "hey we ripped this off from guild wars 2"......cool imma go play GW2 instead

@asmongoldtv, 4:00 is addressed in the full stream

Idk, notification for a major event could be sent to a player using a messenger raven or pigeon to just comes to you and voilà you know something is happening and it still feels immersive. Its not too complicated. A bit like messenger pigeons in gw2. No need to over complicate things.

@MyTeaIsMighty

2 жыл бұрын

Even something like a town crier would be immersive and obvious

Margerey or whatever the Name of the Community Marketing lead was. Damn shes fine

That whole immersion conversation is too early, let's see what they come up with before throwing the idea out.

I remember Steven being the guild leader of White Order in Archeage. Everyone hated his guild and he was a major play to win player and was spending thousands. Was fun ganking their members at their fishing parties.

@slevig415

2 жыл бұрын

One of my friends tells me he kept asking people to donate to him to fund the project lol

I hope its great, but they are promising so many things. I feel like the game won't be ready until 2030.

My issue with current game are that they focus on cherry on the cake (customisation, skins etc) while the fundamentals (gameplay?combat?) are clunkly.

@MrRafagigapr

2 жыл бұрын

Because most players are idiots who dont even like what make MMOs good like gear progression and worry about visuals whose only function is your fps tanking to 25 in a large raid

how come there's not wikipedia page for ashes of creation?

Intrepid Studios should be an inspiration to the gaming industry as a whole.

1:02 what is this extension guys?

I love how MMOs keep taking shit from GW2 and saying "GW2" does this really well but the MMO community still sleeping on it after all these years.

@tobeymaguire9371

2 жыл бұрын

Used to be a top 5. Sadly not as popular now.

Is this game going to come out some time in the 20's? The 2020's

Can't even imagine how it smells in that room.

I'll believe it when I see it.

Why is the background music from FF14? Sounds like Rift.

That hot girl analogy though 😂

L O L ... "her name was New World." .... priceless humor there!

bro why are there 900 million pizza boxes behind this dude lol.

cheers

There's going to be a hostile goblin faction? Now you have my attention!

A game not even released yet "wHat'S thE eNdgaMe"

This is a certified sigma moment

@jordanlutz8307

2 жыл бұрын

Please stop

I just can't wait for WoW 2, it's been a decade it's about time to start fresh in a new realistic up to date engine

@coreybartlett1999

2 жыл бұрын

Has any actual information been given on such a heavy endeavor? Seems like a pipe dream.

@a.o.skurtt

2 жыл бұрын

@@coreybartlett1999 if enough people demand it they will, just will take a lot to be worth it but the cartoony style is trash for modern day and just limits the game so much

@ElFelix88

2 жыл бұрын

Lol they can’t give us player housing cuz it’s too much work… and they are going to revamp the game on a whole new engine? Only on our dreams

@joshuabadgett7987

2 жыл бұрын

@@a.o.skurtt exactly how does that limit the game?

@a.o.skurtt

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshuabadgett7987 it's ugly, litterally impossible to be up to standards these days, gold's in the millions it's hard to even properly comprehend prices, there's thousands of mounts and a bunch that came out 15 years ago so no mount is really special like when you see a ZG tiger mount and you know there's only a handful of unique mounts, and that this guy got it within the last few years, nothing's special anymore, everything's watered down and cluttered, time for a new start

Why the Valheim song at 15

I guess if a huge volcano goes off and an earthquake hit. Then you know it’s happening.

i justhope pvp isnt super punishing if you wanna ignore pvpers entirely i have yet to see evidence it wont be a problem like sea of thieves.

Asses of Creation

This game gonna turn in to Starcitizen.🤣🤣

They are really cranking up if they went and hired 23 more.

Honestly the only MMO I’m looking forward to is the Riot MMO , can’t wait because knowing a lot of great developers and talent is on the team now , knowing riot on their recent projects, it’s going to be quite epic

@kibblevert

2 жыл бұрын

Riot has all the time and money in the world to develop whatever type of game theyd like. I think thats a big part of what makes their games great and Im super excited for the Riot MMO.

10/10 announcement

If it doesn't have a "really big sword to, you know, hit things with" I'm not playing it. Simple.

Roundabout by Yes! {:-:-:}

GW2 is comfy

Imagine in the middle of a dynamic event where the goblins attack your average Joe who is in his mid 30s with his headset on beind his gaming PC. All of a sudden he get's wife agro or kiddo interrupts as he needs to get dropped of to his footbal/basketbaall game :-D

HMU in 15-20 years when the game (might) come out.

The main problem I think MMO's has is that gaming is evolving to become faster and more convenient over time. Most people wanna be able to get in-and-out of the game that's fast paced non stop action , and/or make a lot of progress quickly. I think to urge to follow a slower pace story and grind is dying

@Beeftitan

2 жыл бұрын

It's not dying it just hasn't been done well properly for a long time. The fact that classic like servers exist is proof. OSRS and vanilla wow for example

@diegostrossen6751

2 жыл бұрын

It's almost like most of the people who play mmo's are people who grew up with them, as a genre, I've found it impossible to convince anyone to play an mmo if they didn't play them when they were kids. And since those original mmo players are now older and have busy lifes, they can't play mmo's how they were meant to be played. Viciously.

I think he should just play gw2, to prepare for aoc

@zarakikenpachiish

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly if Ashes of Creation ended up being just like gw2 with nicer looking graphics I would buy it

Holy

same explenation for EQ NEXT i see doubt.

Well, i love the concept of immersion events. They can for example give a notification that an event will be approx in 10-30min and then make a something like immersion effect which always implements that event start in 5 min or something.

Imo blame EA, Activision, and whomever else participated in the Alpha/Beta travesty over the past decade not the players.

My cat freaked out at 9:52 please mute sudden noise.

People want more and faster for a shorter time.

asmon has the best opinions

This is Guild Wars 3.

If they have combat similar to Black Desert even if its a carbon copy i would be happy.

@thebossman972

2 жыл бұрын

No lol it’s going to be tab target. They had a br that was action and it looked decent for how early it was but they went to tab.

Ashes of Creation sounds like it's going to be a heavily social/RP centric game but I could be wrong, seems like it's taking a lot of ESO, BDO, Age of Conan, Lineage 2, Ultima Online, Guild Wars 2 and Dark Age of Camelot.. Criminal flagging system (corruption system), open world guild wars/open world battlegrounds, player housing, naval combat, seamless open world experience, it seems like they are taking a lot from sandbox MMO's and making things more casual and less hardcore.. I doubt there will be full player looting (Albion Online/Darkfall).. haven't seen a MMO with a open world guild wars in a very, very long time though, especially one with no factions, this goes all the way back to Dark Age of Camelot and Ultima Online.. Everything sounds good on paper it's a question of if they can deliver, I am also curious with how much depth the game will have, this is extremely important, giving players things to do that they don't have to do but just cause they can cause it would be "fun" is something missing from a majority of MMO's.. Mini games are a good example of this, things like sitting down in a tavern and playing chess//poker(card playing)/gambling etc.. within the game, this made the Witcher 3 a hell of a lot of fun and you didn't even have to play Gwent to get through the game, people would just do it cause it was fun and it added re-playability and a lot of hours to the game.. Fun is feedback our brain gives us when we are absorbing patterns for learning purposes and this is why people have fun playing things like Chess, Tetris and even Atari games and why people still play them.. Games need to be treated as a creative art that gives us the ability to learn, chess teaches us strategy, Cities Skylines/City builders can teach us resource management, Tetris teaches organization..

@Eyrothath

2 жыл бұрын

@@Purriah I disagree.. It just costs 300 million dollars to design a good sandbox MMO and a very, very long time (im looking at you Star Citizen) its just that there really isnt any triple A sandbox MMOs and none of them have any interesting lore or ongoing plot/stories to follow.. Its already confirmed that Ashes of Creation is incorporating the best parts of traditional MMOs with innovative sandbox concepts and the game revolves around where everything is permanently impacted by your actions.. Its definitely going to be a hybrid.. It sounds like Guild Wars 2 but with a lot of very open world stuff you would see in Sandbox MMOs and this isnt necessarily a bad thing. Some sandbox games can have very innovative features and I am not talking about MMORPGs in general but you have games such as Satisfactory, Space Engineers, Raft, Medieval Dynasty and Valheim are all fun games.. Most single sandbox games that arent RPGs end up being really good simulators and its what sandbox MMOs are missing is a simulation experience.. Cooking Simulator for example is probably the most fun you will have cooking in a game than you will in any MMO..

@Droogie128

2 жыл бұрын

@@Eyrothath Eve Online is a successful sandbox. It's the ultimate sandbox, really. Completely player controlled.

Ashes is looking nice, has great ideas and potential HOWEVER pvp will kill it after its initial wow. IF there was an opt out (of pvp) it might do better. I can't think of a mmorpg that is just pvp that has lasted for very long with a meaningful player base.

@antonymckenna850

2 жыл бұрын

bdo

@stuff4812

2 жыл бұрын

@@antonymckenna850 BDO is about pvp? i dont see it. i mean i guess since the game has no content then by default pvp is the only thing to do but its definitely not marketed at pvp. BDO makes me think of it being the mmorpg version of warframe with even less stuff to do and more pay to win

@antonymckenna850

2 жыл бұрын

lol it's literally an open world pvp game endgame is pvp and large scale nodewars and castle sieges yep you guessed it all pvp

@stuff4812

2 жыл бұрын

@@antonymckenna850 large scale pvp is the worst type of pvp yuck.

@antonymckenna850

2 жыл бұрын

@@stuff4812 Albion is another successful pvp sandbox mmo and it's full loot

I love Pizza Brand Pizza

I want playable goblins