Artillery Changes are Beyond Belief...... This is a disgrace

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  • @anthonyallencabrera
    @anthonyallencabrera Жыл бұрын

    They added a warning when artillary is locked on you. Being a 7 year player I play aggressive and often artillary punish front line tanks making me a high target. The new warning feature when artillary is locked onto you is extremely helpful.. I usually have an idea when arty is locked onto me from experience but seeing the warning sign actually makes me want to move away.. this surprised me how effective the warning was.

  • @evintorres3345

    @evintorres3345

    Жыл бұрын

    I get that it can be helpful given situations... But when there are multiple arty and you are a heavy tank fighting the heavy flank your usually stuck into the fight.... And how is it completely helpful if you can't get away at all given the rediculous buffs arty received

  • @j01150126

    @j01150126

    Жыл бұрын

    That was my thought as well and you don’t even need the 6th sense perk. I think it’s fair.

  • @AndyVasilev

    @AndyVasilev

    Жыл бұрын

    @@j01150126 You ALWAYS need the 6th sense perk. ALWAYS

  • @chuckgraham1695

    @chuckgraham1695

    Жыл бұрын

    @@evintorres3345 Easily avoided by a good arty player, you do not focus the tank until your fully aimed in and ready to fire.

  • @MagiKfroG

    @MagiKfroG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@j01150126 whenever I see this type of comment I always think of 950wn8

  • @locksand45
    @locksand45 Жыл бұрын

    They need to do more for artillery. The latest buffs amount to nothing. We also need at least 7 arty per team too.

  • @nustiu6841

    @nustiu6841

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah. Love arty. I play most td so I don't have problems with arty. We have to learn to LOVE arty. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @robmackay973

    @robmackay973

    Жыл бұрын

    I can get behind that. Lock it in

  • @m_m_m_beer8917

    @m_m_m_beer8917

    Жыл бұрын

    I sense sarcasm. Why not have an all artillery mode? The rounds last the full 15 minutes. Each match results in a time expired Draw. No need to even touch the Left Thumbstick. Perfect!

  • @scootlesvonnoodles5529

    @scootlesvonnoodles5529

    Жыл бұрын

    She’ll velocity buff is required. 1400 mps please.

  • @superstraight2667

    @superstraight2667

    Жыл бұрын

    Hit scan arty shell pls

  • @flameofthewest4902
    @flameofthewest4902 Жыл бұрын

    Psychiatrist (pointing to doll) "show me where the artillery touched you" WoT Streamers (on the couch in fetal position) "EVERYWHERE! It touched me...EVERYWHERE!

  • @georgehillyer7959

    @georgehillyer7959

    Жыл бұрын

    😎

  • @markpillans5670
    @markpillans5670 Жыл бұрын

    Can't say i've really noticed that much of a negative impact to be honest.Don't think we need three per team though.

  • @justing8313
    @justing8313 Жыл бұрын

    No clue how this is a positive move. Arty now shoots quicker and more accurately meaning rng events like fires/ammo detonations are going to happen more often. Pure buff. Just keep the alpha reduction thats all arty needed, do less damage all around

  • @brianbrian5842

    @brianbrian5842

    Жыл бұрын

    Because it actually makes it fun to play artillery. I like the update.

  • @justing8313

    @justing8313

    Жыл бұрын

    @@brianbrian5842 in 8 years of playing ive never seen a large group of people ask for arty buffs. Never seen arty players complain that doing 3k damage from base wasnt fun or felt like arty was bad. Ive seen people asking for nerfs all that time though

  • @georgehillyer7959

    @georgehillyer7959

    Жыл бұрын

    I play artillery sometimes and I do find it a fun change from running around in a light or slogging in a heavy. So far, from both sides of the aiming circle, seems fine. I’ll play more this weekend and we’ll see how I feel about it.

  • @deadscope777

    @deadscope777

    Жыл бұрын

    @@justing8313 Going the "pure" nerf route was never gonna work. Neutering a class bc folks don't want to play the game as intended is where the problem lies. There's a plethora of solutions for the community to utilize vs "nerf it to the ground". I don't see a majority of players wanting less instead of more.

  • @justing8313

    @justing8313

    Жыл бұрын

    @@deadscope777 1. It needs a nerf because 6.0 gave it a pure buff, it wouldnt "neuter" the class. It would bring it back closer to "normal" 2. A minority group might complain because they dont understand mechanics but most do and they bring legitimate criticism to the table: arty influence battles too much, they are supposed to support not be top damage dealers 3. You must not have ventured the forums or the discord now very often if you dont see many people putting forth complaints about arty And as a sidenote I ask anyone to go and look at the stats and see for yourself how arty currently fits into the game, youll see many arty have higher winrates and avg damage per game compared to many of the other tanks in their same tier

  • @colincurtis953
    @colincurtis953 Жыл бұрын

    The grind for my T-95 is now impossible. I can't even get to cover without losing half of my hit points. All the enemies arty aims for me. I have aged 20yrs....

  • @koberoy5947
    @koberoy5947 Жыл бұрын

    Artillery didn’t get a big enough nerf tbh. They need to add a setting where you can choose to play with artillery or not

  • @charliewilliamson5777
    @charliewilliamson5777 Жыл бұрын

    Also for those curious, the Equilizer is the most accurate arty in the game. .46 accuracy on 930 upon pen. That's base Soviet heavy tank accuracy lol

  • @spino11096

    @spino11096

    Жыл бұрын

    My obj 261 has .45 accuracy for 1000 on a penning shot.

  • @ellobillo999
    @ellobillo999 Жыл бұрын

    I thing the only problem with artillery is when is 3 of then on the game but just one is fine don't know why is the worry about artillery so much.

  • @ShapeshifterOS
    @ShapeshifterOS Жыл бұрын

    The FV304 had always reloaded that fast. They just reverted the nerfs from a few years ago. Btw, the BC 155 58 has been neutered with the ridiculous intraclip reload being so long.

  • @NOT-QUICK-ENOUGH

    @NOT-QUICK-ENOUGH

    Жыл бұрын

    Shapeshifter! 👏🏻

  • @svanlinge6917
    @svanlinge6917 Жыл бұрын

    I like more HP on arty, adds to total damage you can rack up once you encounter them head on

  • @emiliobell8276

    @emiliobell8276

    Жыл бұрын

    Add to their boldness in charging Heavies

  • @georgehillyer7959

    @georgehillyer7959

    Жыл бұрын

    @@emiliobell8276…Artillery should be able to stand up to a heavy for one or two shoots. I think more hit points makes that possible.

  • @NelsonMandela785

    @NelsonMandela785

    Жыл бұрын

    @@georgehillyer7959n what world should a cross map I hit you cant hit back be able to stand up to heavies?

  • @jameslacey858
    @jameslacey858 Жыл бұрын

    Did anyone think that the changes to arty was to get more players to move to CW ? If you infest the battlefield with Artillery shells I think it would cause players to have second thoughts on playing WWII. Working as programed?

  • @markjshenton2006

    @markjshenton2006

    Жыл бұрын

    Arty hits some times for minimal damage, and misses some shots. . I've never ever had a missile miss me or hit for less than 1k hit points. I hate missile players more than arty so I won't go to the darkside

  • @johnm8342

    @johnm8342

    Жыл бұрын

    When will the w48 be available?

  • @chuckgraham1695

    @chuckgraham1695

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, I've thought that for about a year now, Wargaming seems hell bent on destroying WWII mode. Bad news for them, they make that mode unplayable, and I'll just take my ball and go home.

  • @johnm8342

    @johnm8342

    Жыл бұрын

    “I understood that reference…” 😝

  • @MagiKfroG

    @MagiKfroG

    Жыл бұрын

    CW is crap era1 and era2 is camping base haven’t played era3 can’t say anything for that

  • @Juansolous
    @Juansolous Жыл бұрын

    19:33 why did that make me laugh so much, I appreciate your commentary they made artillery more dangerous.

  • @chiefkikyerass7188
    @chiefkikyerass7188 Жыл бұрын

    I love it...making the unicorns cry..how many times did Arty get 1 shot in last 9 yrs?

  • @radeksamal2950

    @radeksamal2950

    Жыл бұрын

    Played T77 10 games. Get clicked 3 times. Good game, good game design.

  • @deadscope777

    @deadscope777

    Жыл бұрын

    @@radeksamal2950 skill issue

  • @radeksamal2950

    @radeksamal2950

    Жыл бұрын

    @@deadscope777 Yeah. Any advice?

  • @deadscope777

    @deadscope777

    Жыл бұрын

    @@radeksamal2950 get in the mindset of an arty player. Can't do that til you play as one. GL

  • @pyxichromis
    @pyxichromis Жыл бұрын

    i was taking a brake from the game . the same have some of my friends done. and now im started play again ang comimg back to this...omg Wg ..maybe we comeback when you start thinking and balance arty.

  • @peterashton7522
    @peterashton7522 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this. I've been looking for a cool artillery game and this one looks GREAT!!

  • @btymania1026
    @btymania1026 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve been seeing way more artillery actually pushing flanks now... crazy what you can do with more hp.

  • @nucleartestrabbit

    @nucleartestrabbit

    Жыл бұрын

    A lot of British arty doesn’t have much range so they tend to stay closer to the front.

  • @georgehillyer7959

    @georgehillyer7959

    Жыл бұрын

    I always thought the hit points were too low. Now, they can survive longer when they get yolo’d by a light at the beginning of the game.

  • @deadscope777

    @deadscope777

    Жыл бұрын

    A very welcomed change. Now certain arty can be and do more.

  • @btymania1026

    @btymania1026

    Жыл бұрын

    I enjoy it because I don’t feel like I’m wasting a shell in my Death Star.

  • @georgehillyer7959

    @georgehillyer7959

    Жыл бұрын

    @@btymania1026 Sounds fair. I never feel like I’m wasting a shell when I shoot a death star, so it’s all fair and good now.

  • @electrospaghetti4483
    @electrospaghetti4483 Жыл бұрын

    I understand what your saying but the fact it alerts enemy that arty is targeting them gives them huge advantage to dodge any attacks

  • @therealyoda6172

    @therealyoda6172

    Жыл бұрын

    you cant dodge shells in slow tanks.

  • @kenwood7656
    @kenwood7656 Жыл бұрын

    Imagine what it would be like if they gave it a buff? Wait maybe the word buff and nerf got mixed up?

  • @harald489
    @harald4892 ай бұрын

    1 year later and still broken. If I was this bad at my job as these lousy devs I would reconsider my life choices

  • @jdawwwgytb
    @jdawwwgytb Жыл бұрын

    I've been playing wot since 2014 and still have never touched arty😂😂

  • @michaelholycross2633

    @michaelholycross2633

    Жыл бұрын

    Salut!!

  • @johnryan6658

    @johnryan6658

    Жыл бұрын

    Will you bear my child?

  • @lljackiechan4524

    @lljackiechan4524

    Жыл бұрын

    Gotta appreciate that self respect. I don't touch them either but only because of my morals and the fact I respect myself

  • @HiTechOilCo

    @HiTechOilCo

    4 ай бұрын

    If you're not playing artillery, that's a very big loss for you. Artillery is a lot of fun and also not playing artillery, you don't learn how to easily avoid it.

  • @FTW86itall
    @FTW86itall Жыл бұрын

    I have been playing mine like a lightly armoured td. Plays different but it seams the results are the same in the end. No more or less damage.

  • @lljackiechan4524

    @lljackiechan4524

    Жыл бұрын

    I feel sorry for your brain.

  • @FTW86itall

    @FTW86itall

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lljackiechan4524 I don't need your sympathy. I just don't need any beta neolib low T vibes. And while you are feeling don't forget to stroke the shaft and cup the ol satchel.

  • @theredemption4988
    @theredemption4988 Жыл бұрын

    Question for anyone playing wot: why tf is everyone always complaining? If you dont like it, change game or quit it. I am playing wot for like, 7 years and i always liked it, even if some updates were worse than others

  • @habbo7334
    @habbo7334 Жыл бұрын

    I dont even know what to say anymore… The sad thing is that yes these changes are bad, but they’re not bad enough to make the majority quit. Until wargaming screws up so royally that we all somehow quit the game, we’re still gonna be playing and they’re going to continue to ignore the player base and make us their Guinea pigs.

  • @DirtyDan0016
    @DirtyDan0016 Жыл бұрын

    Playing light tank has been amazing now. 3 Artys on the enemy team if u can get to them that’s an easy 3k+ dmg already😂

  • @georgitetuc

    @georgitetuc

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes and now you need 100 shots to destroy them :) This morning with my obj704 , I needed 3 shots to destroy a T92.

  • @DirtyDan0016

    @DirtyDan0016

    Жыл бұрын

    @@georgitetuc I guess it’s kinda worth to load a couple HE now for them when u find them lol

  • @stefaandeswert377
    @stefaandeswert377 Жыл бұрын

    If they had applied this update while NOT removing the 1 arty per team, then i can live with this. But the way it is now it's just stupid. Absolutely 0 IQ changes. What are they thinking? Arty wasn't annoying enough

  • @pcicsl1herdofdonkeys201

    @pcicsl1herdofdonkeys201

    Жыл бұрын

    I concur. I hate the changes but had they left it at 1 arty per team, it would have been tolerable. 3 per is ridiculous.

  • @gamingcentral562
    @gamingcentral562 Жыл бұрын

    I feel like artillery is killing me less and doing less damage against me. IDK if it is because of the changes, luck, or more players who aren't good with them are trying them out.

  • @Cyathewolf
    @Cyathewolf Жыл бұрын

    Welp Time to resume grinding through the S-51. Obj 261 here I come!

  • @Rockerrobin
    @Rockerrobin Жыл бұрын

    I almost hit all my shots finally got good damage 4 kills. And with the artillery alert I'm not getting hit as often because I know artillery is targeting me. Before hand I found artillery a nightmare to play lucky if I got a kill let alone hit multiple targets. They are definitely strong now but before hand they weren't very fun to play.

  • @jasonphair8478
    @jasonphair8478 Жыл бұрын

    Ive been one shotted more times by arty in the last 2 days in a medium than the 5 years preceding the update. And to top it off you can't one shot them in return, bloody buggers!

  • @georgehillyer7959

    @georgehillyer7959

    Жыл бұрын

    I don’t think I got a single one-shoot kill on the last two days. I’ll let you know how the weekend goes.

  • @evintorres3345
    @evintorres3345 Жыл бұрын

    I'd like to point out that arty can no longer counter arty bec of there hp

  • @OMEGANEEDLER

    @OMEGANEEDLER

    Жыл бұрын

    And if your French you can't do damage to half of tier 9's or most to if not all tier 10's from my experience

  • @jameslacey858

    @jameslacey858

    Жыл бұрын

    Counter battery is easier now with faster reloads and larger shell tracers, you can usually find the enemy arty within the first minute of the battle 😀

  • @georgehillyer7959

    @georgehillyer7959

    Жыл бұрын

    You can indeed counter. What you mean is that artillery can not longer blind-fire one-shoot other artillery. I’m fine with that.

  • @evintorres3345

    @evintorres3345

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jameslacey858 but they move...... At least the people who know how to play arty..... And there anywhere between 2-5 shots to kill..... So explain to my how that's countering arty with arty? It used to be you shoot arty once.... And they die..... With arty, now you shoot, wait till they move and shoot again, shoot, wait till they shoot again after they move, then shoot.... That takes maybe 5 minutes of the game up on just focusing a single arty given situation, man and exc

  • @evintorres3345

    @evintorres3345

    Жыл бұрын

    @@georgehillyer7959 why is that good, it punishes skilled arty players who are helping the heavy flank push...? Did you even consider that arty has always been a hard counter for the heavy flank and now is an even harder counter? Now skilled arty players can not help the heavy flank make good push plays through pincer locations

  • @TheHighlander1
    @TheHighlander1 Жыл бұрын

    I've been playing arty whenever i come back to W.O.T I've done some wild stuff with these fast reloading artys. I always go for engines and ammo boxes. The fire and explosive combos shore up the penetration limits

  • @tomriley9242
    @tomriley9242 Жыл бұрын

    I don't mind the hp increase, it's funny to see the arty shotgun the YOLO lights. However that increase to the rate of fire buff was a typical WG dumb idea.

  • @bathin7941
    @bathin7941 Жыл бұрын

    I checked 261 can do 12 seconds. any slow heavy basically has no chance of making it out alive while crossing. even I was disgusted while testing it

  • @RifleReport
    @RifleReport Жыл бұрын

    Community: arty needs nerf Wot: okay we reduced their Alpha..butttt increased their health, accuracy and kept the dpm the same. Community: -_-

  • @ryanbarton6739
    @ryanbarton6739 Жыл бұрын

    War gaming broke the game with the Artillery changes

  • @thewhiteviper5351
    @thewhiteviper5351 Жыл бұрын

    I can’t believe they did that people everyone already camps hard now it’s going to get worse for something that’s meant to prevent camping it sure dose encourage hiding behind a building

  • @georgehillyer7959

    @georgehillyer7959

    Жыл бұрын

    It should encourage moving, but if you sit still, only a matter of time before the “propelled” part of the SPG moves it to a better firing position.

  • @lopesey1
    @lopesey1 Жыл бұрын

    They should of reduced he damage like in the pc. So that tier 8,9,10, vs heavy tanks are only doing like 200 to 300 a shot. That will teach the arty trolls.

  • @TheRohanUK
    @TheRohanUK Жыл бұрын

    Guess they don’t want people to play the game or spend money on it. Because I won’t be will just play a tiny bit of Cold War just to make sure my skills don’t get rusty.

  • @josephstalin8217
    @josephstalin8217 Жыл бұрын

    Quick question gaming community should I get the tea 1108 five or the teen 92 HMC

  • @DirtyDan0016
    @DirtyDan0016 Жыл бұрын

    Also with the T10 bat chat arty it went from 4 shot to a 6 shot auto loader now with about a 20sec faster reload making it about 40secounds

  • @davidvillamarin7164
    @davidvillamarin7164 Жыл бұрын

    Eclipse what can we do? This is terrible. The moment i see a game with 3 arty i just want to kill myself. Because the moment you are spot. its crazy. I try to go fast to good position and if im spotted! Now its Hell. Cant do that. I cant understand what was WOT thinking???? And there are maps.... The game was soooooooooooooooooooo much better with a single arty for game. Players were happy. What the hell were they Thinking????

  • @barryrigel4209

    @barryrigel4209

    Жыл бұрын

    Artillery only player here. I liked the one arty per match better. These new changes were needed for arty. Either this or reduce lights speed by 40% or more. IMO

  • @johnryan6658

    @johnryan6658

    Жыл бұрын

    I'll tell you what we should do, but it won't happen. At the beginning of every battle, we should have a gentleman's agreement that both teams hold position and allow the other team's lights to come over and kill their articowards. Then, before anyone else moves, the lights move back to their spawn, and the battle continues like normal. That's how you get rid of the cowards, whether Wargaming wants it or not.

  • @johnryan6658

    @johnryan6658

    Жыл бұрын

    @Barry Rigel no, they need to increase the speed and/or power to weight ratio of lights. They also need to increase the hit points of lights so they can't be one shot by cowards. Plus, they need to increase the alpha of lights to compensate for the increased hp of the cowards.

  • @davidvillamarin7164

    @davidvillamarin7164

    Жыл бұрын

    @@johnryan6658 🤣🤣🤣

  • @ewannoelkailevi4772
    @ewannoelkailevi4772 Жыл бұрын

    here's my 2 cents with the update, how it's going to shake down ... - arty fires faster, less effective per shot, major nerf to splash, needs extended playtime to rack up dmg - players will become increasingly skittish when lit up that arty is targeting them causing skittish gameplay as well as lots of missed arty shots. This also leads to new tactics to shape gameplay, like I will hover over targeted tanks/players and cause them to move out of position or alter their shot angles against my teammates etc ... - the big thing is: high tier arty will eat silver, will be very expensive to run. More shots = more silver expenditure. - previously, players would go full prem because of splash and to maximize performance because every shot counts. With reduced splash and skittish gameplay, silver expenditures are through the roof now which will eventually alter gameplay in the future. It will be expensive to run Conq GCs, T92s, GWE 100s etc ... especially for not so good players that don't earn silver well. - this will keep pushing prem tank play/prem time for people to keep their silver reserves in the positive. For example I ran the GWE100 and did ~ 4k dmg. I'm a decent player (2 marked the GWE) and running a prem account my game was a negative 100k silver loss. I predict that arty play will dwindle significantly because of this. So, you guys get your wish ... eventually. - I think that most people just focus on the negative QoL aspects that affect them like: wtf arty have so many hp?! why do they fire so fast!? There's 3 arty per team, oh noes! - more hp means more hp to farm. that's a good thing. Fast firing but less dmg output means mainly serious annoyance but less lethal unless you just sit still all the time. 3 arty will not be a thing much longer if the cost to play is too high. my credentials are 3 marked M53/55 plus others. I know what i'm doing in arty.

  • @georgehillyer7959

    @georgehillyer7959

    Жыл бұрын

    Seems like a fair assessment and I did have a negative silver game in my tier 9 Soviet artillery, first time in I don’t know how long.

  • @lopesey1
    @lopesey1 Жыл бұрын

    It's going to force people to use speed mods so you can relocate to better positions to not get hit. They should use the regular world of tanks pc maps which have more cover. The maps they made are horrible it benefits artillery.

  • @johnm8342

    @johnm8342

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes… speed up the game and get players back quickly to the store and buy more stuff…

  • @risingwind8943
    @risingwind8943 Жыл бұрын

    They could fix this by just lowering the shell arc of arty. That would artificially create more cover, force arty to relocate more often, and would give non-arty a break.

  • @WLFF6086
    @WLFF6086 Жыл бұрын

    We have to expect that when WG says they are going to balance something they do the opposite of what the players understand balance to mean. UP IS DOWN, DOWN IS UP. Im staying with the cold war side, and selling off most of my WW2 tanks. Thank you for the Video.

  • @rogergatt932

    @rogergatt932

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s what they want you to do,and start spending more money

  • @johnryan6658

    @johnryan6658

    Жыл бұрын

    @Roger Gatt exactly. If Wargaming cared about artillery, they'd have put it in Cold War. They're just keeping and buffing it in WWII to drive people to Cold War.

  • @WLFF6086

    @WLFF6086

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rogergatt932 , yeah I thought of that, but I had 67 WW2 tanks, after cashing in about 1/2 I now have 130 million silver.

  • @Fressh22

    @Fressh22

    Жыл бұрын

    @@WLFF6086 so you are basically doing what they have been trying to do since they introduced cold war( which cluttered with idiots who only know how to autolock) they plan to force players to CW with idea of balancing WW by making it unbearable.

  • @rogergatt932

    @rogergatt932

    Жыл бұрын

    @@WLFF6086 I have over 250 ww2 tanks spent a fortune,but not anymore,not moving to Cold War and spending more money,that’s exactly what wg want ww2 players to do,they won’t get one more penny from me,and eventually if I find something else I like I’m gone,this game is an absolute joke now,but it’s hard to leave

  • @TrustNo-1
    @TrustNo-1 Жыл бұрын

    Are we being punished 🧐

  • @bradleymuro6807
    @bradleymuro6807 Жыл бұрын

    The way artys were b 4 this update was perfectly fine and it's taking longer to get into a battle now than it was with one per team

  • @drosera88
    @drosera884 ай бұрын

    What they should have done is to make changes that force arty players to think. All they really had to do IMO is to flatten the shell trajectory significantly, moderately buff HP, and make it so that they could only see enemies that are within their view range. Essentially, turn them into TD's that can shoot over small obstacles. It would keep them from sitting at the back of the map, force them to stick with teammates, learn map positions for cover/concealment, and reward knowing the strengths and weaknesses of the enemy tanks.

  • @therealyoda6172
    @therealyoda6172 Жыл бұрын

    they also changed the RNG so shells are much more likely to hit the centre even when not aimed

  • @ChiefPuffPuff113
    @ChiefPuffPuff113 Жыл бұрын

    I agree with accuracy buff and dmg drop but everything else was unnecessary

  • @rodncin
    @rodncin Жыл бұрын

    Here's what I see happening. First, the Arty will have a field day for about a week. By the second week, Folks will dust off their light tanks and make SPG's run for cover. By the third week, the mediums will come out to counter the lights and finally the heavies will be able to crawl out from under the rocks they have been hiding under for about a month. rinse and repeat. Seems like every time they change arty this cycle happens. I bet Wot even comes out with a premium light tank....oh wait, they just did!

  • @johnryan6658

    @johnryan6658

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, and I will be one of those light tanks. Also, I don't think mediums are that good a counter to lights. Lights are the best counter to lights.

  • @rodncin

    @rodncin

    Жыл бұрын

    @@johnryan6658 As one who really enjoys light tanks I do agree with you. The Medium guys might differ with you tho lol. I just try to remember to focus on business (arty) before pleasure (dogfighting other LTs)

  • @OMEGANEEDLER
    @OMEGANEEDLER Жыл бұрын

    I thought they were getting nerfed not making more accurate for every one. I also noticed when I play in arty now i hit every thing I'm not aiming at, which is every thing but the enemy tank. Thanks Wargaming.

  • @skaterthrulife
    @skaterthrulife Жыл бұрын

    That's point farming when you catch an arty. They also had big camo nurf

  • @joeyglewnston
    @joeyglewnston Жыл бұрын

    Accuracy wasn't working yesterday put gs and crew with 3 accuracy perks on a med and it still stayed at .36

  • @timboskydog01
    @timboskydog01 Жыл бұрын

    did you not see Fridays Twitch stream? They said treat this as a real life test, as WG will get more data than in house test.

  • @georgehillyer7959

    @georgehillyer7959

    Жыл бұрын

    Don’t let details like this get in the way of a good whine and cry….

  • @repressednerd1449
    @repressednerd1449 Жыл бұрын

    Yet again wargaming take something that was already op and made it more op. They should have done a base 40% damage reduction to all Artys and called it a day.

  • @georgehillyer7959

    @georgehillyer7959

    Жыл бұрын

    No. That would not only affect artillery, but also light and some medium tanks that get a lot of their xp from spotting.

  • @scootlesvonnoodles5529
    @scootlesvonnoodles5529 Жыл бұрын

    The only class this helps is heavy tanks at high tiers. I found it nice to be able to play my E-100 and IS-4 and not be 1 shot. Otherwise it’s pretty toxic for everything else.

  • @FritzMoney
    @FritzMoney Жыл бұрын

    Happy I moved on to Cold War.

  • @johnryan6658

    @johnryan6658

    Жыл бұрын

    I think that's Wargaming's ultimate goal.

  • @geopold2a4
    @geopold2a4 Жыл бұрын

    to quote the blizzcon guy. "Is this an out of season april fools joke?"

  • @michaelhildebrandt1898
    @michaelhildebrandt1898 Жыл бұрын

    I need to play arty today 🙂 This looks like to much fun

  • @johnm8342

    @johnm8342

    Жыл бұрын

    Autobots, transform and roll out!

  • @beefycheesecake
    @beefycheesecake Жыл бұрын

    Ive recently started playing wot again and i was wondering why i was getting pummeled by arty now, this explains it.

  • @mxgshredder8078
    @mxgshredder8078 Жыл бұрын

    The health buff is the worst part of the entire update. It gives an arty a chance to reload a second shotgun shot where they would have been completely helpless up close. Now they are many times more dangerous up close.

  • @shadezee7510
    @shadezee7510 Жыл бұрын

    This is exactly why I mostly play cold war. Still love ww2 game mode but arty does get frustrating. Especially if you aren't running around in a light tank.

  • @aragorn4242

    @aragorn4242

    Жыл бұрын

    don't like the missile tanks though. more accurate .

  • @josephh.3334
    @josephh.3334 Жыл бұрын

    i don't think anyone will be playing artys a month from now at tear 10, you can rarely use the extra reload time. which is good

  • @evintorres3345
    @evintorres3345 Жыл бұрын

    Yes totally not a complete buff XD, any nerf that they made the counter buffed extremely hard

  • @truffleshuffle6758
    @truffleshuffle6758 Жыл бұрын

    Been awhile since I logged on. Came across my first arty of the night and I was like WTF, 1300 hp……

  • @georgehillyer7959

    @georgehillyer7959

    Жыл бұрын

    Have to say, that must have been a rude awakening. I was shocked to see that on both sides of the aiming circle.

  • @rustycasteele6121
    @rustycasteele6121 Жыл бұрын

    As soon as they nerf lights as far as their speed, and some of the higher tiers that have super speed and monster alpha, then consider nerfing arty, again. This makes it harder for lights to Yolo you and get a quick kill. As an arty player I like that, don't like having to 2 and even 3 shot tanks I could destroy with 1 shot before.

  • @Fressh22

    @Fressh22

    Жыл бұрын

    That's the point of the alpha nerf you shouldn't be able to 1 tap heavies with BS alpha no TD can 1 tap a full HP Heavy. So why should a border huger be a exception.

  • @rustycasteele6121

    @rustycasteele6121

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Fressh22 yes I know that, but 40% is extreme, my point is if they're trying to "balance" the game they need to nerf the lights. They're too fast with guns that pen everything they shoot.

  • @boingboing3178

    @boingboing3178

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rustycasteele6121 the lights are fine. They can be killed easily if you know how to aim and predict their movements. It’s artillery players that have a problem with getting yolo’d

  • @robmackay973
    @robmackay973 Жыл бұрын

    Only one bounce in the 53/55 is pretty good actually.

  • @superstraight2667

    @superstraight2667

    Жыл бұрын

    I remember the time when I bounced a Skorpion round with my shovel of the M53/55

  • @davewedgbury1583
    @davewedgbury1583 Жыл бұрын

    Played a few games in low tier KV. Reds had 2 player platoon in m44s. Get tragetted forget it. You cannot move quick enough plus firing so fast. I can also see by the time you get to arties after fighting your way to them your likely to be on low hp and against a high hp arty that fires as quick as you. Great. Back to Cold War mode.

  • @ShapeshifterOS
    @ShapeshifterOS Жыл бұрын

    Check out the Obj 261 changes. It can reload in about 11-12 seconds. The only really broken arty imho. Arty has become more of an regular annoyance rather than a game ending rng fest. The 3x hp buff with high tier arty made no sense though. They should've removed AP/HEAT from arty like pc did too.

  • @legatheart1
    @legatheart1 Жыл бұрын

    This must be War Gaming’s effort to push everyone to Cold War, Or War Thunder.

  • @michaelholycross2633
    @michaelholycross2633 Жыл бұрын

    I detect a note of displeasure eh? Lol

  • @shagnasty4918
    @shagnasty4918 Жыл бұрын

    thought i would pop on coop ww2...cant believe how many are on there...madness!...nice arty work wg :D

  • @IRONLORDMINK
    @IRONLORDMINK Жыл бұрын

    Honestly the Artillery Rebalance really isn't bad the fact that Damage has been reduced by 30-50% which limits Not only Artys ability to 1 shot but additionally has a massive impact on Splash (basically now you need to direct hit) thank god you dont have 212As dealing 600 Splash on a near hit any more is generally a positive change. Though of Couse to offset this and to try and keep arty effective WG of Couse had to increase performance in other areas and even with the accuracy buffs your shells are still heavily dependent on RNG. I will agree the Hit point buff was dumb And well Tier 6 Arty has always been the most OP there is no changing that but you got to remember the BERT has super limited range and Pre-Rebalance would only hit most targets for like 1-200 on a direct hit any way and needed to Hit a perfect hit on the Top Deck to do the Full 450 which means staying as close to your Max gun range as possible which in inherently diminishes accuracy. Now with the DMG reductions the Bert you are less likely to do even 100 Avg dmg especially against Tier 8HTs and its more likely your HE will just get absorbed because the DMG and Splash is to low to impact the armour of something like an IS3 for instance . The same goes for a lot of tanks as the Turret Roof armour on loads of vehicles was massively buffed like a year ago anyway. For me it nice that I can Actually Play HTs and Slow Super Heavy TDs without really having to worry about Arty and its overall impact as Artillery is not basically only hitting for Medium Tank Alpha Damage in their given tiers. Yes the Bert's and More annoying because of the frequency that they can fire at you but they are super ineffectual these days because of the changes. I think the only thing WG needs to do at this point it limit Arty 1 per game and maybe look at doing something about the HEAT rounds on the M44 and M41 because the fact they still have the same damage output of the HE which is still dumb or just Removing AP and HEAT shells in general from SPGS . and Reduce the Health increase quite a bit and it will be fine. But honestly Artillery is probably in the best State it could possibly be in and I guess it was either leave it alone. What they have done this update or just do What PC did and I guess its either this or Stun Mechanics so your Doomed not matter which way you look at it.

  • @HempireKing420
    @HempireKing420 Жыл бұрын

    When all you needed was a -40% to damage. Along with this update equipment does not work. Wasted 539,000 credits on vertical stabs for my Tiger II

  • @thunderdan33
    @thunderdan33 Жыл бұрын

    In several games I was the first one to get spotted by the enemy team (thats how I play...I´m always going to push) and got killed by three artillery hits of each arty in the game...this is really annoying, because I only have two options, change my style of playing the game, or get clobbered by these OP arty-players...THX WG👎👎👎

  • @georgehillyer7959

    @georgehillyer7959

    Жыл бұрын

    If you’re always the one being spotted first chances are that before you were also the first one being hit by artillery for a one shot kill. Perhaps you should change the way you play. You can be aggressive without being suicidal.

  • @kylegorf8180
    @kylegorf8180 Жыл бұрын

    Oh, and .49m accuracy is at 100m, arties shooting at targets 500m away means an accuracy of only 2.5m

  • @LtBarclay
    @LtBarclay Жыл бұрын

    Have an m44, might give this a try altho I rarely hit anything anyway lol. Any chance of a British tech tree guide?

  • @supermaster1o167

    @supermaster1o167

    Жыл бұрын

    You ever try the British tree?

  • @ewannoelkailevi4772
    @ewannoelkailevi4772 Жыл бұрын

    Here's my updated opinion about the arty changes. - some arty had their performance ceiling reduced despite their perceived "buffs". Like the '58. Intraclip is really bad and the average DMG on a non pen can hover around 55-60dmg per shot. Not good. - the tiering has changed. The '58 has overall been nerfed and the gwe 100 has probably now taken the right spot at the top. - I'm surprised at the lack of hate mail overall given the constant slapping. - getting marks of excellence is easier now IMO because when you turn something into a grind the poor and less skilled players will remain mediocre giving you room to gain moes.

  • @bendavis6885
    @bendavis6885 Жыл бұрын

    And there I was thinking of starting to play again. Think I'll leave it deleted from the hard drive.

  • @BabySatanandthegang
    @BabySatanandthegang Жыл бұрын

    I guess this season I'll play Era 1 tanks.

  • @shaunwhitting1585
    @shaunwhitting1585 Жыл бұрын

    Been playing tanks since the beginning, and never been a fan of the no skill click boxes....... opps I mean arty, but there is a easy fix. Have a option in to have server games with arty and without, and if arty players moan they can't get games then tuff poop. To have a option to play ww2 mode without arty would be good. It's a reason why I play cold war mode more now.

  • @RJED
    @RJED11 ай бұрын

    As an arty player i appreciate the buffs protecting me from yolo light tanks

  • @albertsundberg1674
    @albertsundberg1674 Жыл бұрын

    I played today and in several games arty was in the top 3, now I really hate artillery and there players. So they really need to need balance the armor on all of the other tank classes? Maybe buff armor 300%?

  • @scootlesvonnoodles5529
    @scootlesvonnoodles5529 Жыл бұрын

    To be honest I would have been happy with HP and reload buff with the alpha nerf, but the accuracy buffs are the problem. They should have left it as is cause in my experience arty rarely missed before the buffs.

  • @georgehillyer7959

    @georgehillyer7959

    Жыл бұрын

    I will say that in 4 games or so I am getting less combined (damage and tracking) than in the past. Perhaps this weekend I’ll do a real test.

  • @AndyVasilev
    @AndyVasilev Жыл бұрын

    Ebr 105 has 100 hp less than the t92 hmc. Nice

  • @georgehillyer7959

    @georgehillyer7959

    Жыл бұрын

    Judging by the size and thickness of the vehicle, that seems very valid to me.

  • @AndyVasilev

    @AndyVasilev

    Жыл бұрын

    @@georgehillyer7959 that means that vehicles like the Manticore or T100-LT should have less than a 1000 hp

  • @georgehillyer7959

    @georgehillyer7959

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AndyVasilev Judging by size and armor thickness, you are right. Game balance May enter into the equation.

  • @RT-mm8rq
    @RT-mm8rq Жыл бұрын

    I feel like someone in wargaming WANTS to kill the game. Between the fast auto loading/derpy light tanks and the arty, I've pretty much sold all my slow heavys and TD. That vast majority of my game time is in cold war now.

  • @Muchowski_B
    @Muchowski_B Жыл бұрын

    What a disgrace!

  • @STUDINTHEWALL
    @STUDINTHEWALL Жыл бұрын

    I mean I’m glad that I can’t get hit for 1000 in the maus or the type 5 anymore but idk if I wanted this

  • @arekmicielski7849
    @arekmicielski78492 ай бұрын

    i play only arty wot i got all x tier and i love when i imagine tanks cry after one shot kill

  • @aegyo9272
    @aegyo9272 Жыл бұрын

    Wargaming (in Clark Kent's dad voice) : "The world was not ready for you. It is time now. Fly, son!" Also, in the Store section, the description of Ultimate Game Pass says you will get Cobra instead of Aston Rex. Lazy company forgets to change the text.

  • @dhmountainbkr5452
    @dhmountainbkr5452 Жыл бұрын

    it is pathetic, not only do they reload faster I was one shotted in stark strv s1. lovely then like you say, I hit the arty and did not kill because of the upgraded hit points and it shot gunned me. Terrible update ruining the game. Like you said you get tracked and just sit there and get pummeled by arty. Between that and the camping tanks... OMG

  • @nigelbrooks5235
    @nigelbrooks5235 Жыл бұрын

    Auto loaders and game ruining light tanks still seem to be fine ?, funny old world , isn't it!

  • @georgehillyer7959

    @georgehillyer7959

    Жыл бұрын

    I note…sarcasm? And I agree.

  • @danielross1033
    @danielross1033 Жыл бұрын

    Dude I only played arty to knock out other arty now it’s a pain to get rid of them last night I rammed a m44 with my scorpion thinking it would knock him out no it took 80% of his hp and I had to finish him off with a AP round. another thing that’s annoying actually two things the arty aim at you warning goes off even when the arty hasn’t detected you and then not sure if it’s a bug or not but when you’re killed and put in spectator mode you can no longer see how much damage you have done. im fairly frustrated with this update I’d rather just have arty the way it was and let the lights and arty knock them out.

  • @lljackiechan4524

    @lljackiechan4524

    Жыл бұрын

    You only play arty to knock out other arty.... Right.... I mean I only raped the woman to finally meet the other guy raping women.

  • @georgehillyer7959

    @georgehillyer7959

    Жыл бұрын

    I have the crash skill (forgot the name) as my 6th or so skill in artillery crews for that reason specifically.

  • @exactinmidget92
    @exactinmidget92 Жыл бұрын

    I miss playable artillery. I'm an arty main on PC and it's been made completely useless. might jump over to the console and experience the good old days again.

  • @superstraight2667
    @superstraight2667 Жыл бұрын

    Wargaming playing 5D chess. Buffs artillery, causes a shift for players to play Cold War mode, CW mode gets a bump in player count, players enjoy true vision and ultra fast shell velocity.

  • @joe19782005
    @joe19782005 Жыл бұрын

    Again just for Christmas they screw it up....

  • @joshharris3312
    @joshharris3312 Жыл бұрын

    glad to see 3 arty again tbh and i dont play arty. nice to have someone on overwatch.

  • @joshharris3312

    @joshharris3312

    Жыл бұрын

    guys who camp and know every spot on the map to farm damage from cant sit and bounce rounds anymore. i think the "balancing" mechanic hes talking about is people having to move alot more than they use to making the game more fun.

  • @deanmaximus9770
    @deanmaximus9770 Жыл бұрын

    Not sure if you mentioned it but people who use artillery will be targeted even more😂 so maybe annoying light tanks will be killed more because being careless and keep going after artillery 😂

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