Meanwhile Arthas complains about his Triggers not working in W1.

@yejitzy2322

3 ай бұрын

This is what bothers me about Arthars, he is a hypocrite.

@Vaeyz

3 ай бұрын

Mr Splatoon aka Arthars? If I remember correctly all streamers started to hide their tools cause of him streaming to 5k viewers with triggers and so on.

@komimisliar

Ай бұрын

@@Vaeyz what are you talking about? when tf did arthars ever use splatoon lmfao, all he had was act and a voice trigger for trick attack or useless stuff

@jin6186

28 күн бұрын

@@komimisliar That's what we know, he could also have timers and text cactbot triggers without sound effects...

@komimisliar

28 күн бұрын

@@jin6186 yes just like every single person who streams this game?

What i honestly found the funniest about this whole debacle was Arthars threatening people with going straight to Yoshi-P next fanfest and showing him clips of people using AM. Only one of two things are gonna happen if he really goes through with that. Either he just removes the option to change markers mid-fight Or what i think would be the funniest outcome: He just bans Arthars himself for showing them to him and a patch later he adds AM as an official feature.

@karasutsuki1733

3 ай бұрын

now that i think bout it, im surprised we can still place and change them midfight unlike floormarks

@Ayalis

3 ай бұрын

They won't block markers from being added / removed mid fight, considering if they did that then the whole marker system might as well be removed. Waymarks got that treatment because it doesn't really matter that the waymarks get changed midpull or not but are still useful to have from the start. Arthars being banned and them adding it would be pretty funny though

@cheshireyordle9586

3 ай бұрын

@@Ayalis tell me when are markers used outside AM ?

@rociosilverroot2261

3 ай бұрын

What I found funniest is twitch chat sound boarding through the whole video.

@Ayalis

3 ай бұрын

@@cheshireyordle9586 You missed my point. "If they block *normal markers* from being applied mid-fight, they might as well remove them entirely from the game since it's the only place they're used". Better?

Xeno should mute his mic audio to stream every once in a while, and keep recording audio, and then give us KZread frogs kissies instead of Twitch chat.

@alexandrezolla4959

3 ай бұрын

BASED

For me, use whatever you need, so you don't make my life more miserable in pf.

@MaakaSakuranbo

3 ай бұрын

The issue of AM is that now that you use it, I have to use it too. So you make my life miserable :)

@Bankai90

3 ай бұрын

@@MaakaSakuranbo open your no AM pf. Again, if people feel so strongly against AM. The pf's will fill faster than AM groups. Yet again. I bet if you would be a PF player or would've done TOP. You would understand why AM was used there. So when you're in a static you don't even need AM since you're in voice.

@TheOneGreat

3 ай бұрын

Imagine just playing a game

@rtbear674

3 ай бұрын

​@@MaakaSakuranbo You don't have to, if you are miserable someone is using one, you can find another party without one. Don't enter or leave at the sign of it. No one is forcing you to be in this exact party. Leave, say it to them why, they will probably out, blacklist you, so you will never be in the same party as them ever again. repf, and move on. But hey, you can blacklist them too. So you won't be in the same party that makes you miserable by using AM ever again.

@castor_u

3 ай бұрын

​​@@Bankai90Honestly that's my biggest gripes with Arthars' entire tantrum; in a follow up reply he literally admits that JP does not PF [TOP], he has no frame of reference for progging without callouts and comms between party members. Also personal triggers (ribbide ribbide ribbide) on top of that and it's genuinely mind blowing he thinks he has a high horse to be on here. The only fight I feel like needs the help is TOP, purely because you can't adjust around people who don't understand the mechanic.

oh yeah, im the designated marker for TOP for my static, it was miserable as fuck, i hated that phase with a passion lol. my static was headstrong in not using automarkers which is fine, and yet no one was willing to step up so I as the fucking melee dps had to, which is the problem, it expects you to put the burden on 1-2 players to solve the entire mechanic for the whole group. you wont think p5 sucks if you use AM and are not the person who has to mark people. And when I fk up during p5 during and after the dodges people get upset (understandably cause its late as fk in the fight) but it feels shitty as hell. Mechanic is miserable, with how its designed and how late it is into the fight. P5 is not a good fight design if it heavily pushes all the burden on 1-2 people or on using automarker, especially for randos. Every PF would have to have at least 1-2 players who know how to mark during a shitty phase and that's unrealistic.

@Bankai90

3 ай бұрын

this is exactly it, in our static obviously the healer marker/caller (jeez I can't even imagine how miserable this must be as meele LOL, cuz you're basically marking during your 2m window if I recall correctly? xD) but EVEN as a person not marking, having the feeling that our healer might mess it up again or get clipped by bs just felt like sht. Even after the 5th clear when I knew he likely will get it right it just felt miserable to be anxious about doing everything correctly as a player while being at the mercy of 1, doing sth which is miserable for him to begin with I hella enjoyed PF with AM cause everybody had the same responsibilties, and even if we would fail you saw it coming from a mile away if someone was going wrong. It just felt way more enjoyable in itself and made me go from dreading reclears to actively sitting in PF to clear TOP for fun. Ended up with 20+ clears total in the end While most people crying here about "you bad" are just people who prob couldn't even get to p5 if they wanted to

@MorpheusCh

3 ай бұрын

@@Bankai90 yep the 2m window happens there. yeah i bet the people who are saying "you bad" probably has never done the marking themselves or their group probably used AM. And agreed PF was more fun cuz I exactly did not have to mark people. I was always so extra stressed during P5 in my static lol. It did get easier but at the start it was absolutely miserable.

@ferryfernandus1423

3 ай бұрын

@@MorpheusCh at that point you should quit your static, when the group collectively asked and even worse case, burden you with such task, idk if you should call that a static anymore, more like slaving you

bro aint no way im watching this and youtube rolled up with a gil selling website ad LMAO WTF bro wild shit

@DoppelgangerTH

3 ай бұрын

Have been seeing those since last week, too

Again i rlly don't think Arthars of all people has very little ground to grandstand about any kinda plugin/mods.... devs seeing his dsr clear vod with him using triggers gives him some kinda false ideal hes above being banned or punished?

@Arabassassin13

3 ай бұрын

Bro I stg Arthars inflated this drama for views

What I'm sort of 'worried' about is this. They removed the ability to change arena markers because the TEA world first team used a 3th party tool for trines, so what's stopping them from doing the same to overhead markers? To me, it honestly feels like something they would have done years ago. I'm very surprised that they haven't done it yet.

@HigakiRinne

3 ай бұрын

Personal markers can be replaced with a plugin typing out personal assignments in party chat and as a GM they would never be able to tell if it isn't just a real player typing, it's a complete non-starter

I wish my life was as carefree to have my biggest problem be auto markers in an online game

@Grimnoire

3 ай бұрын

I wish my life

@imafirenmehlazer1

3 ай бұрын

ikr like XD

@skcansMachine

3 ай бұрын

Apparently having a conversation on something you're passionate about implies that it's the biggest problem in your life. Everything sounds more serious online than it actually is, most people are just having a conversation on am, it's really not that big of a deal

@Grimnoire

3 ай бұрын

@@skcansMachine haha no life haha

@jtabox

3 ай бұрын

@@skcansMachine This isn't "having a conversation", it's "throwing a Twitter tantrum". The guy wrote a whole thread where he's malding about AM and about how he's gonna go pester Yoshi P in a Fanfest, show him vids with AM (like Yoshi P didn't already know about AM), and hoping he bans them on the spot or stops making ultimates or whatever. So Arthars can then say to his "so-called" friends he doesn't respect them anymore?

Random side note why do we have all these random shity sounds from chat when there is any time there is a discussion about a more serieus topic. Good lord the random meme sounds every 20 seconds is really anoying.

@nedra.0808

3 ай бұрын

fr, having a bitch moaning in my ears when he's having some serious words is annoying af

@PuthySlayer69420

3 ай бұрын

youtube frog kekw

@sophomorehat

3 ай бұрын

Yeah it's becoming a bit too much. It was funny when it was a random fart noise or Discord sound alert that trolled everyone into checking their DMs once every 5/10 minutes or so. But it's not funny any more.

@Thaun_

3 ай бұрын

i can't listen to this whilst there is a random dude moaning every 2 minutes

@DemonLordSparda

3 ай бұрын

Because Xeems isn't someone who should be taken seriously. He proves it time and time again.

AM is not too big a deal for me, my only issue with it is how reliant people are on the plugin. i've seen people ask for it in both ucob and dsr for lightning, looking at your debuff isn't difficult

I haven't done ToP myself, I saw the world race and that was about it. I don't remember what P5 was. I kinda wish that Xeno would explain how the mechanic works and why AM (in PF) is mandatory, at least from his perspective.

@TheLogan1156

3 ай бұрын

P5 of TOP is just a series of three trio mechanics -- Delta, Sigma, and Omega. You don't need AM for Delta, but it's basically required for Sigma and Omega because everyone in the party has to position in incredibly precise spots for the mechanics to resolve correctly, and each person's respective spot is determined by following a fairly dense mechanical logic. So world prog groups would designate one or two people to mark players and you would use those marks to determine your spots. AM just automates that process.

@MalachitesBiggestFan

3 ай бұрын

There is are 2 parts that cause an issue to where people will use auto markers. There is a point in sigma where the party will split into 2 groups. One group of 3 and one group of 5. The group of 3 cannot have hello near or far as well and the two people taking the beams need to have at least 1 stack of dynamis. After sigma everyone must have 1 or 2 stacks of dynamis. During omega 4 people are marked. 2 far and 2 nears. There is also 2 baited aoes that are required to be taken by 2 people who do not have the first far or near going off and already have 2 stacks as everyone needs 2 stacks after the 3rd set of jumps (2 people with have 3) . Another issue that may happen is that if you have the delayed far or near and you already have 2 stacks of dynamis you need to take the baited aoe to avoid getting 3 stacks since your debuff later will give you the 3 you need. Vice versa if you have delayed far or near and you have 1 stack you must not take the baited aoe so that you have 2 stacks and end with 3 after your debuff goes off. Again So that going into the final set. 2 people have 3 stacks (and no near or far debuff) and everyone else has 2 stacks

@SuguSugux

3 ай бұрын

so in P5 (after delta) your position during the mechanic matters base on the number of stack of dynamis that you have. for example. 1 player who has no static of dynamis will go towards female omega. and 2 player who also has 1 stack of dynamis will also go to omega female along side the person who has no stack. here the proble,. there are 5 people in totall who has 1 stack of dynamis. how do you know that you're the person who goes to omega female because you have 1 stack, but the other people also has one. so static make a priority for this mechanic. but PF does not have any of that. the AM will auto mark everyone and you simply follow the rule. AM completely remove the extra dificulty of thinking where to go/stand base on the amount of stack you have. you simply ignored all of this and follow the AM. making p5 way easier

Wish the stream sounds would be turned off during these talks lol

i played in jp and they DO use AM too, they just dont tell in the pf descrip like NA does

@DollRyougi

3 ай бұрын

elemental or mana/gaia . depends on which server u're tho

The only reason Arthars mentioned Mare is because of how carefree people throw that shit around in search info or their adventurer plates. The maker of the plugin even said to be discrete about it but everywhere you go you can see people with (Mare Lamentorum) on their character. I don't agree with a lot he said but I can understand where he's coming from since waving around the AM and ML isn't exactly discrete, more like flaunting it, at this point.

@rootdarkarchon

3 ай бұрын

I made Mare and yes I agree, people are idiots putting it everywhere. But at this point I also don't believe anymore that SE doesn't know about it. They just don't care/do anything about it. We will see what DT will bring so enjoy it as long as it lasts, I guess.

@Kuso_yarou

3 ай бұрын

Nah arthars is a elitis

@maximinoe7307

3 ай бұрын

SE would know about mare and AM irregardless of players ‘Flaunting’ them. So who cares?

@ProfessorHeavy1

3 ай бұрын

​@@rootdarkarchon I haven't exactly seen Square Enix acting on modding and plugin accusations unless they're explicitly mentioned or recorded. Hell, in some cases they even require multiple pieces of evidence to prove botting. As Mare Lamentorum is an auto-translate term, players have some defence in feigning ignorance which is actually a viable argument, even if SE has very little reason to believe it. It's taking advantage of the support staff's neutrality and good faith by using an in-game feature that could be, under certain (if not extremely rare) circumstances, used legitimately.

@ridleyroid9060

3 ай бұрын

what tf is mare, if u don't mind answering?

Lmao okay...sorry I couldn't really focus on what Xeems was saying because of all the effects his chat kept spamming to drown him out.

@SS3Shelton

3 ай бұрын

Completely agree, I wish they would remove the chat effects on these uploads.

@PareSM

3 ай бұрын

@@SS3Sheltonjust because you can’t reign in your attention span doesn’t mean the rest of us should suffer

@Corvus7159

3 ай бұрын

​@PareSM Suffer? Oh no don't take away the extremely unfunny spam, anything but that.

@MaakaSakuranbo

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, these stupid effects make al ot of streams insufferable to watch imo

@Xyrenos

3 ай бұрын

I thought they came from him having videos rolling with the "x hours of silence occasionally broken up by x sound" Like the Yoder times

After everything has been said, it all come down to "Ultimate is for Prestigious, elite people only, not for pebble like you PF"

@luckytanuki5449

3 ай бұрын

Yea Xeno kept acting like it's was meant for the PF and that is the end all be all. Not everything needs to be lol, either go find a static through external means,or just don't do the content. This video just made no sense to me. You want hard fights, but want tools that make them significantly easier? Like the sack strat he kept going on about, it's a workaround to a difficult mechanic, it's not a cheat. Id prefer people do that, or figure out another strat, than people just blindly go through it with AM's

@MrCharly780

3 ай бұрын

​@@luckytanuki5449the fact that the devs put it into PF means it's meant for PF. You are already wrong. What is special about a static? One guy will auto mark anyway. Also he is right that Athas can't say shit about AM when he and his group uses it along with all on the world to first. Ultimate is nothing exclusive, only people who can't find value in any other aspect of their life try to pretend it is. Coming from someone who cleared all ults.

@Munshade

3 ай бұрын

@@luckytanuki5449 why would you care how people do it tho? Why should the fight be gatekept behind having a static? I guarantee you even with AM any fight will still be way harder to do in PF than with a static, so it's not like they are making the fight easy. They are just making it doable. I am really confused by the gatekeeping.

@luckytanuki5449

3 ай бұрын

@@MrCharly780 I mean, the fact that it is meant to be high difficulty content that coms are basically required is all that needs to be said to prove that you are the one who is infact wrong. Just a PF isn't enough to be able to do it and that is ok. And just because he was right about arthars using them doesn't mean he is right about them in general. AM's defeat the purpose of that content, and as others have said, it's a slippery slope that once opened, there's no putting it back into the box. I also find it pretty pathetic that you feel the need to say you completed all ultimates, when that literally means nothing with how easy it is to buy a clear.

@luckytanuki5449

3 ай бұрын

@@Munshade The fight wouldn't be in the game if it wasn't "Doable". It's not gatekeeping if the only people who use Am's are the ones not good enough to do it anyway. That's just called skill difference.

So I'm the guy who Arthars is talking to, and I realized what I said was fucking stupid. I was praying that this shit would just blow over and people will forget. But now Xemes did a video showing that discussion, please, I'm sorry, I'm fucking stupid. Please do not flame me. Edit: I lack self confidence, something to work on in the future.

@jtabox

3 ай бұрын

Aw man, don't apologize and don't deprecate yourself like this. You had an opinion and you wrote about it, if someone flames you about it then you shouldn't give a flying fk. It's not like every other opinion on Twitter is written after meticulous research and is infallible.

@TemporaryChannelName

3 ай бұрын

Its all good, we all say things that we regret

@OhSunchips

3 ай бұрын

Don't fold, you were right about some things. Arthars would never admit he's wrong even if the whole community including Yoshi-P called him out on it. If only the world first raiders did Ultimate's like Arthars wants they'd hit a point where they wouldn't be able to justify making them anymore. About 20% of players do the content currently, that's why they keep making it. It's a spectacle and enough people do it to justify it, if only 1-5% did it like Arthars wants we'd be lucky to even get 1 an expac. Arthars only attacks AM and PF because he wants less people clearing it, he wants to feel more special. He doesn't really care about 3rd party like he makes it out, he uses things like ACT and Triggers and Alexander, he didn't plan out any of his arguments at all that's why he flip-flops around so much about everything. It'd be hilarious if he somehow got all 3rd party banned because he'd ruin the game for himself, not just others. Whenever he's on something like MogTalk he inadvertently lets his real opinions out and you can tell how he really feels when he's able to talk down to people about it. He's super weirdly elitist about hard content, it doesn't even make sense.

@Arbszy

3 ай бұрын

It is alright dude, you have a opinion and regardless if some agree or not.

@SuguSugux

3 ай бұрын

everyone is allow to have an opinion. no matter how unbelieveable stupid and right out insane they are. i still cant believe you pissed arthars so badly to this point. is amazing

What upsets me a bit more is that you dont even need AM for delta with just a few tweaks you wouldnt need it for sigma or omega neither

Yo Leo, is there a way for you to split Xeno's mic audio from Twitch chat's audio? It would be easier to watch his vods WITHOUT all the crazy sound effects from chat, especially with topics where he's talking in depth about something.

neither a fan or hater of arthars. but isnt his problem is that people are advertising AM so openly in PF instead of AM itself? i thought thats what this whole thing was

@teo1120

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, a couple days ago Arthars said on stream Xeno reacted out of context but at the end of the day both him and Arthars think AM is cheating which is Arthars' main point.

@andrewtimothy9792

3 ай бұрын

@@teo1120 yea, iread a few of the tweets and immediately realised that he have "no issue" with cheating. He only have an issue if it is so openly advertised/plastered in pf description

What is auto marker tho? I thought marker is in the game as feature the help player but what is auto marker? Is the one that people put on the raid to help with the mechanics?

@sneaky7615

3 ай бұрын

Not the marker on the floor it's the marker that you put on living being both you and the boss.

@ThatGaymer

3 ай бұрын

The markers are in the game. Auto-marker is a third party tool/mod that automates the marking processing so players don't have to do it.

My group when we got to Titan we got an assigned number. If we had jail the lowest number went to the front and so on. Took a bit to get used to it but it worked.

if they want people to stop using noclippy/alex, then they should fix the problem in the first place instead of spending their time and energy telling people not to use it, no matter how janky and messed up their coding is. it's their problem as a developer, and it's hindering players. also remember when arthars uses cactbot? ribide ribide? yeah, fucking hypocrite.

@DantoriusD

3 ай бұрын

Im too afrait to ask but tf is ribide ribide?

@SateLight

3 ай бұрын

​@@DantoriusD it's living dead but being pronounced in japanese, but idk why he uses it for in DSR. there's also "twitch prime" but again idk what mechanic he uses it for in DSR. what i know is he used it on DSR world race

@Irisfantasies

3 ай бұрын

i would actually be so happy if they did it... playing from south america to na servers blows dicks and i REQUIRE alex/noclippy to raid as lord intended the gameplay loop

@sneaky7615

3 ай бұрын

From a perspective of someone who doesn't know coding. Alexander is straight up black magic voodoo shit like what do you mean I can play like I have low ping without low ping?

@-UwU-catgirl-

3 ай бұрын

on god. no clippy is mandatory because the game's code is so shit.

It's already out of control with people not being able to do TOP transition, dynamis delta or DSR thunders without a marker over their head. I suppose looking at party list debuff too hard for pf ppl as well. Imho allowing it to exist in the end just lowers the skillset needed to clear the fight. It's not like these mechanics are impossible to do without. But noone even wants to try. When we tried to pf one guy to do our no am wroth strat in DSR people were on most part mocking the strat, laughing or leaving. Or even worse you set a pf to do stuff without AM but some guy will join and still activate it mid fight. Actually insane. And I saw lately it's leaking into the savage fights as well, AM on P9S soon pf standard?

What's the JP strat for UwU Xeno is talking about at 8:37? Can't find anything about it.

@sneaky7615

3 ай бұрын

27:54 Here Basically you have 4 people run into death wall forcing Titan's gaol RNG to 4 remain players. This strat wouldn't work if dps check these day ain't so forgiving.

@demhunter

3 ай бұрын

I did this with my old static, you need to keep both healers and a rdm for raises. it's an extremely dumb strat that makes healers do way more work.

@EpickBoi

3 ай бұрын

@@sneaky7615 Thank you. After Xeno mentioned the JP strat at 8:37, I immediately went to search for the strat before finishing the video because I got curious. Heh heh

Arthar's take about needing addons for wow, look at world first prog in wow and see howmany addons are needed to clear a mythic raid 😂

Even the statics that don't use AM, don't have all their players learn a priority system for Sigma and Omega trio and have all 8 players solve it. One gamer who can react quickly will be the one to mark people instead of using a program. THAT person understands the intricacies of the mechanics, the other 7 don't necessarily do just because they cleared without it.

I am so far removed from mods that when he said noclippy I tought it was something related to haircut and glam. Had to google the name lmao.

Have people cleared TOP in PF without P5 auto markers and not being in discord? I don’t think it’s possible without talking in discord, unless every player has gotten every possible pattern and they know what to do just by looking, highly unlikely though.

For my UWU clear in PF, we did manual markers. We designated a player with a number and then made a macro to make that number appear during gaols. So we would see who has the gaols marker, pop that macro, smaller number close to Titan, larger number furthest away. It had a few more steps but got the job done.

@GreyfoxFrankYaeger

3 ай бұрын

It has one more step, click button.

@supermarble94

3 ай бұрын

Same, our priority was both tanks had circle (zero), and everyone else was assigned numbers from 1 to 6 (triangle was 6, like an up arrow, since enemy signs only went up to 5 at the time). Gaols went out, press the button, and you're in front middle or back depending on your ordering. Literally the same thing as automarker or an ACT callout plugin.

Looping Day hath already arriveth? I thank thee, my Liege.

My static did P5 just fine without automarkers, am I better than anyone who used it? Hell no, my raid leader called out the far world and fist baits in sigma and the far world baits in omega (plus someone else called monitor for the first part of omega). There was almost no thought needed from my part and the only thing we got from not using AM was making my raid leader's life worse. I'm a bit biased because I really don't do PF and don't care much about the state of it but I'm never gonna judge anyone for using AM on TOP, it's just not worth the stress.

@buriedclouds9107

3 ай бұрын

Yeah basically for everyone but the person marking/calling out it still like AM lol

@vtxshiva

3 ай бұрын

That's literally the problem. Everyone can tell you add-ons make your life easier, that's why half of the people defend them and why the other half hates them. They don't necessarily 'play the game" for you (right now), but they increase the number of things you can track and do. Anything that affects and reduces the mental stack/cognitive load is a net plus, but it's also a hack/cheat in essence if others can't use it (eg. console players, PC players with worse systems, etc.) thus making the competition unequal/unfair. It's also an arms race to the bottom as can be seen in WoW. People get used to having these "minor conveniences" and every year they push further for more convenience here, less hassle there, some assistance with rotation over there, another automation on the other side. It never stops. Worse even, because add-ons exist and impact the difficulty directly, devs will be pressured into making even harder fights, taking into account these add-ons, which in turn makes content even more difficult, to the point it will no longer be doable without them. Once you open Pandora's box of add-ons, you can't simply close it. It's an MMO with many moving parts and once it's in, taking it out and re-training the community becomes impossible. Add-ons is one of those few cases where the answer is black and white. you either have them, or you don't. End of discussion. Once you say yes, you can't change your mind. Show me a Mythic Raider in WoW that doesn't use add-ons, and I will show you a liar.

@Bankai90

3 ай бұрын

I'll explain you the issue. Now go and clear again with your static without discord. See how shitty that becomes suddenly. The main reason AM is used in TOP is cuz in voice u can easily callout north/south, the whole AM debacle isn't even about the "difficult" part of TOP. It is about the "easy" part which has no concise placement for at least 2 players. If they would've given 2 people more debuffs and thus a defined placement for north/south, making the mechanic "harder" people wouldn't even use AM in entire P5. You're simply going to AM so you don't have to be in voice, and pf will always choose this. And yea, then it all starts going a bit too far afterwards. With even slightly better design for Omega we would not have this entire AM debacle lol

@GoodLosertjo

3 ай бұрын

Tbh I don't even get this logic of "I was carried by raid leader cause they called it" like bruh it's a fucking team game of course you're supposed to help each other

@undercoverspy123

3 ай бұрын

​@@GoodLosertjo Also that Raid leader isn't a 100% perfect machine, and good lord if you are any good at the game (specially in TOP) you should be learning to do/call the mech yourself as well and using raid lead as confirmation you read it correctly.

In Elemental they do PF Ultimates, but I only EN parties.

Okay I have to ask. Being a PS player and not an ultimate raider, I don't know the answer. When Xeno asks, "how is one player putting markers over your head different than auto markers?" I can see that, if a player does the mark, it takes them time and brainpower to solve the mechanic. Does automarker also require a person's input time and brainpower? If it solves the mechanic so that nobody has to risk losing a GCD, then I would think that is completely different. But if it marks spots on the map, and each player then has to interpret which marker to go to, then that stilk requires player input and bainpower. But if it marks each player and marks the map so people only need to react to a non-human solved input, then I don't buy into the argument that these two thinfa are the same. Can someone explain what auto markers do and how they affect the solving of the mechanic?

@RamundHallgrimsson

3 ай бұрын

Automarkers put the markers on players' heads automatically, yes. So in a mechanic where 3 random players get a debuff and have 5 seconds to go to a precise point on the map or the team wipes, automarker marks the players with the debuff and since they are different numbers, it's pre-arranged that 1 goes to the front spot, 2 in the middle, 3 in the back, so they just check the number on their head put there automatically and go to the space they need to. Without automarkers, the debuffed players would need to notice they have the debuffs, and based on the random order the debuff is assigned, have a predetermined priority system to know who goes to the 1/2/3 position, and check every player in their party list to see who has the debuff or not, and what is the priority for those 3 players in specific, in the span of 5 seconds. So yes, automarkers mean less brainpower, less time spent, and less difficulty. It reduces the mental load on the party. And, thus, in my mind, is cheating. A plugin like NoClippy, assumed it's in its default state where it just simulates the ping someone living near the servers would get, isn't cheating. The player still needs to put in as much effort as anyone else would, it just negates the bad netcode the game has and puts them in parity, not beyond, players who are more geographically located.

So Xeems is fine with a open note test and not Arthars. Did I get that right?

I can see where both of Xeems and Arthars is coming from. I don't think Xeno wants 3rd party progrem to go crazy or be normalized. My guess is that Xeno wants the raid to desinged in a way that doesn't require crazy skill or addons

@LuminateTheWorld

3 ай бұрын

It's a mmorpg. No fight period should ever require either of those. Anytime a fight can only be cleared by the top 1 percent of players. It's a badly designed fight imo.

@sirnonsense5033

3 ай бұрын

It will never work. As soon as addons are normalized people will start crying that content is to easy. Raising the difficulty until we are in the same place as WoW in which addons are a requirement. I’m not really brothered by people cheating but having them crying content is to easy is the dumbest shit ever in my option…

@sirnonsense5033

3 ай бұрын

@@LuminateTheWorlddepends on the content xd. I agree that that shouldn’t happen with savage but ultima is supposed to be for the 1%. Not cuz the dev team wanted it but cuz the people asked for that 1% challenge.

@luckytanuki5449

3 ай бұрын

​@@LuminateTheWorldNot everything deserves to be cleared by everyone buddy. If you are bad, you don't complete hard content. You aren't owned a clear, you work hard and improve your skill. Why should everything be dumbed down so lesser people can complete it? That's a very boring world where there is no challenge you want to live in.

@Xero-rr2ol

3 ай бұрын

@@luckytanuki5449 No. If a fight demands cheating to be completed outside of status. It needs to be toned down or designed better.

Ive done UwU with AM, since thats just how ive learned it, I wasnt told theres other viable options xD In TOP I knew theres other options, but it seemed ass, it felt required and with it it was almost fun Deep down id like the fights to be solveable without that much hassle, like a middle spot between UwU and TOP, so we odnt incorporate thirdparty in too much With the part bout writing it in pf, if I join a pf, id like to know if they use it or not, I was quite upset to have gotten my BLU Clears with a group that used Cactbot. The leader just repeated in vc what Cactpot told him, I thought he just knows and calls it out, it didnt feel earned..if i knew he uses that, I wouldnt have joined

I was talking about this TOP P5 issue with my static a little while ago. I think if they made the Dynamis stacks have a visual effect on your character model it would significantly reduce the need for the automarkers. For example, it could have and aura that is a different color depending on how many stacks a character has, so you could look at your party and at a glance know how many stacks each person has. AM is effectively being used to compensate for FFXIV's user interface not giving the information in a way that's readable fast enough.

28:45 theres actually a "Tactic" in WoW for the naxxramas raid similar to this strat. during the "Heigan the unclean" fight. known as "The Safety Dance" at the start of the fight you'd ask your raid "Who knows how to dance?" and the guys who say no you get them to just stand outside the boss fight and not even participate.. eventually getting killed by the bosses Damage. whilst players who do know "How to dance" fight the boss. the dance is litterally just avoiding aoe damage in a pattern but requires pretty quick movement.

idk why people think AM is some kind of automatic totem dispenser bc it's just not. Being in enough pfs with and without AM in the fights that typically use it will clearly tell you

@DarkDyllon

3 ай бұрын

LPDU basically uses AM for DSR Wroth, most "reclear" parties still either wipe to meteors or p3 in general, most don't even get to wroth.

@ampur2

3 ай бұрын

right and wrong. Yes, having AM doesn't automatically clear the fight for you if you cant even get to the part where you need to use AM, which is P5. Without AM, some people couldn't even clear P5, so that's what is wrong with your statement.

@lck0ut348

3 ай бұрын

If you get to the AM mech, at least in NA PF, you've got a damn good party

@xehant7319

3 ай бұрын

​@@ampur2 for P5 is it for death or wrath? For wrath : how dumb can you be just for not looking your own debuff? For death : I can see why if they are doing DOTH with full adjust and not the conga line, I tried first like that and it was miserable and then we changed to the line to clear all of this mess

@Xav237614

3 ай бұрын

@@xehant7319 I think he's talking about TOP's P5, not DSR one. For WOTH & DOTH, because the fight is well designed, you don't need to, the game already puts on your head a bright thing telling you what to do. For DSR's Wroth of flames, i'd say that automarkers in PF's are more an additionnal security, cause if you were doing the fight via a group & vocal, you could easily warn someone who's not going to the correct spot considering the prio system.

I remember when top was cleared without healers.

lol easy solution is SE implements anti cheat, but probably with the way the game is coded, it would be a huge rewrite which wouldn’t be in budget, plus they’d lose most of the playerbase (character mods).

@Bankai90

3 ай бұрын

ye 90% of ppl who would get hit with anticheat aren't even raiders to begin with. Ye go get that Miqote permabanned for a tattoo or the other guy for a beardmod. Wonder how the outrage would be if people lose their houses and 5-10year+ accounts permanently with the introduction of anti cheat. People think that AM is the deciding factor if people would clear ultimates are coping hard. These are all good players and AM is a minor factor for people who want to clear ults. It would simply kill PF, enforce statics and get rid of prob more than half of the RP scene

@aphilli97

3 ай бұрын

Idc about anti cheat all this drama just gonna make automarkers in the game with a patch. I’m sure most of these mods will just be added in base game eventually

Arthars generally has horrible takes in regards to 14. I'd be fine if they removed player marking in combat if they adjusted some ultimate mechanics to compensate, either slightly less random (ie. Dynamis stacks), or clearer non-party list markers. Having a prio order is fine, but it shouldn't end up in a situation where you can't develop a reliable strat without some assigned 3rd party decision maker .

@MaakaSakuranbo

3 ай бұрын

You most likely can make a reliable strat. People just have to bother to learn it. And esp. when it's a race thing people don't wanna do that

before TOP came out I saw some people complaining how formalized the xiv tradition of partitioning responsibilities by role or light party assignment etc (e.g. each tank gets one of two possible patterns, each healer gets one of two possible patterns, etc). then TOP comes out, themed around priority systems and less guarantees on which role gets what, and the feedback is ”no not like that”

@marslara

3 ай бұрын

I mean DSR has plenty of mechanics where anyone can get any mechanic and people find that fight to be just fine so yeah TOP was a not like that moment. Doesn't mean people were going back on what they said 🤷🏾‍♀️

Congrats on 100K Subs, man!

Hair? No. Cute bow? Hell yea!

The bf and I rarely use PF...We usually use DF in NA or we try to 2 or 3 person what's needed.

Isn’t Arthur’s party leader the person that rmt to clear for someone on their account and has been banned before but just comes back?

@ferryfernandus1423

3 ай бұрын

culul?? huh?? proof?

My argument for auto markers has always been that it's such a dumb thing to get upset about. You could have one person get really fucking cracked at marking people with mouseover macros, and effectively be an automarker that's capable of making mistakes. You know why I have that stance? *Because that's what I fucking did.* The other 7 people in the raid might as well have had an automarker because me putting signs over people's heads is what told them what to do. I did vocal callouts for sigma and full enemy signs for omega (sans the marks for the tethers in the second round). Functionally, it's no different. The issue isn't automarkers existing. The issue is the fight being designed in such a way that automarker trivializes a phase.

This is just a question for sorting out my own thoughts on the issue, do the devs count screen capture stuff as third party? A few times xeno says that the devs intended the fight to be doable without third party, and I'm just wondering if screen recording counts as third party for that intention.

I'll be honest, doing gaols without automarkers isn't hard and if automarking gets banned or countermeasured against, the entire raiding community is gonna be absolutely stunned how easy the proper way to do Gaols was the entire time.

@Feast_

3 ай бұрын

The community tends to overcomplicate things I couldn't understand divebombs in T9 (When it was current) for the longest time because guides made it sound super complicated, but then a friend brought me into the fight, got to that point and resolved it. All I could think was "Wait, this shit was *THAT* easy this whole time?!"

@KyvannShrike

3 ай бұрын

@@Feast_ in T9's case people wanted to gatekeep knowledge to give themselves raid position security. This was a very real thing with varying levels of effectiveness. Most of the time it didn't work. In groups of newer players however...

@ampur2

3 ай бұрын

The fucking same as dynamis though

@Lilybellmusic

3 ай бұрын

It's all about practice really. When you first do party synergy, you think it is impossibly hard. But do it 1000 times and you can react to it in a second. It's exactly the same with TOP p5. Practice it enough and you will be able to recognise debuffs on the party list instantly, and get used to prios and flexing easily.

@GreatSakuya

3 ай бұрын

Gaols is so fucking easy without AM. People will watch Tessan's guide and literally ignore the macro provided in the video to do gaols without AM. It takes 10 seconds to make.

Usually the game marks your character in some way to solve mechanics, even number from 1 to 8, if the game doesn't give you this information by default there is a problem in the bossfight.

Could you also tell us what you dont like about gunbreaker?

@karasutsuki1733

3 ай бұрын

Think he mentioned once that moving the boss with Gnashing Fang feels bad

I don't know what Auto Markers are and at this point I'm too afraid to ask

@DantoriusD

3 ай бұрын

Its exactly what the Name suggests. It Marks the Player automatically when you have to solve a Mechanic thst requires a specific Order to solve.

@nahuel3433

3 ай бұрын

Mod turns on, and the 1,2,3,4 and X,O and so on raid markers you can put on people automatically get asinged to people and basically kinda tell you were to stand on top of your head.

Perhaps the only devs that 'test' the fights should be ones that didn't work on the fight, don't know the mechanics and play as many different jobs as possible across 2 or 3 groups without voice chat, to test if it is doable by strangers in PF.

I think personally, I feel like at the end of the day it really doesn't matter, and you're just defining your own experience. Who uses and doesn't use mods to clear a fight really isn't impacting your personal experience, Imho. However, I do think with some mods like Noclippy, or things that just fix Potions/Sprint, that should just be baseline in the game. There's literally no value to not having them turned on and they just make the game a universally better experience. I've been doing deep dungeon prog, and trying to adapt to my Healing Potions input logic being so different then every other ability after using Redirect for DPS potions/Sprint for so long is the most obnoxious shit to me. Losing 5 hours of progress because xd you pressed your potion 0.2 too soon is just awful design.

OMG YOU'RE GOING TO HALLOWEEN HORROR NIGHTS NOW TOO!? HELL YEAH~!!! I went to the one in Hollywood, California back in 2019 with the RIP Tour Ticket (HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT, YOU SKIP ALL THE LINES AND WAIT TIMES, NO LOSER POV KEKW) and it was a blast!! I wanted to go again this past year when they announced adding 'The Last of Us' haunted house but it was too short notice for me. Either way I'm stoked and jealous at the same time cuz I haven't been to the Florida location for Universal yet and wanna go hella bad now since you posted the video on it! Hope you have a ton of fun there my liege! NOCRINGE P.S. Plz strum it! If not I hope Arthars does if he ends up going. 👀

Dude has been going absolute HAM on twitter recently. Like comparing Mare to boss triggers.... lol, lmao even.

A mechanic like wroth, you would be able to do without manual markers if the game had a good net code and we could see where people are going.

After this video: we fixed all the dps checks in UwU in a hotfix

Those goddamn stream sounds are miserable.

Am i crazy but isnt the reason square enix has the policy about third party applications/software in the first place is becuz of the government of japan making them have that policy? Or was that a lie?

I dont think automarkers are necessary for like, gaols in UWU (ehhh maybe.. that non AM prio doesnt always work) or p3 transition in TOP. But if you're gonna expect people in PF to be able to throw out all the markers for like dynamis sigma or omega, you're fucking high. Thats a static thing and even then, theres not a lot of people who can do that in that small amount of time you get before the mech starts

(Random ppl mention AM) Arthurs *Proceeds to make a 10 hour documentary to try and get a point across* lmao XD

On a random note HHN was sick. I'm going again this year.

Good take. I really don’t like automarkers, but it is incredibly predictable what type of mechanic they end up getting required for by pfs, so getting rid of them is as simple as not putting that type of mechanic in fights.

@MaakaSakuranbo

3 ай бұрын

Or you know, the community could stop cheating and just learn techniques to handle them.. like they did with other mechanics.

@Bankai90

3 ай бұрын

@@MaakaSakuranbo you have never cleared TOP so why are you talking

@MaakaSakuranbo

3 ай бұрын

@@Bankai90 As if people only use it for TOP Good joke

@Bankai90

3 ай бұрын

​@@MaakaSakuranbo no, but the main debacle is about TOP and why AM becomes more prevalent. If TOP omega would have been MORE difficult with 2 more prios during omega. I can bet my left nut AM would've at least on EU not been used till many many months later. You simply don't understand the mech to understand why AM started being used in TOP. And this is the issue, ofc when people start using it for 1 thing. It's easy to then go ahead and use it for Sigma too. Or darn, add Delta too. Or you know what, maybe p3 or monitors too. It all goes too far from 1 major design flaw in 1 mechanic. So you know, maybe just test your game before sending it out. TOP omega is a disaster unless you're in voice. If you think every single PF will be in voice for a prog and/or potential clear that's just delusional

@Bankai90

3 ай бұрын

@@fabolousjada5070 the brief moment of omega pt2 where 4 people have the same option to go to the same place while 4 others are taking position during the same moment will ALWAYS be hard no matter how much you understand the mechanic. It becomes absolutely trivial when you're in voice. But if you're not it becomes absolutely messy and is comparable to UWU gaols. Just that the difference is that now you're not 4min into an easy fight but 16min in the hardest ult up to date.

to be fair i cleared UwU with AM because there was no single party that wasn't using it on PF so i was forced upon it but neither i cared to much idk..., cleared TEA without using AM. had fun in both fights

if uwu have dps check at titan and 4 people sac oooo probably instant wipe there

Looking Looking

Yoshi-P will introduce AM lol

I tryed raiding in the game and 4 out 5 groups said my class was shit (reaper) and no.

00:41 HOLY

p5 is easier than party synergy, progging party synergy is actually worse than progging p5 with AM

stunlocked for the first 8 mins, so fast forward youtube frogs

19:44 I don't believe him, I'vew seen him talk to Yoshi on the burger phone on many occasions

So how many people here have taken the time to read about the logic behind Dynamis Sigma and Omega? It's not hard to understand but I'm willing to bet a vast majority of the players here haven't even tried solely because AM exists. There's no way anyone's gonna convince me otherwise. The mechanics suck in that they lack visual clarity (looking at a debuff bar when you want to look at the fight absolutely sucks and this applies to Wroth Flames too), I'm not arguing that. But there's a pretty big difference between understanding the mechanic even if it's only 1 person or 2 marking other players, and entirely removing the mental stack by turning the mechanic into basically fixed positions based off the marker on your head that's placed automatically.

Xeno, on Crystal people clear Titan Gaols in PF without markers and the way they do it is super simple. They just assign a 1-8 marker for each person. If you get gaol, hit your macro. Then line up in order after the 3 people hit their macro. It works really well. So if AM gets removed Gaols will be just fine. Unless they remove the ability to place player markers in combat.

@DarkDyllon

3 ай бұрын

we tried this before in my ultimate static, the issue was that if you use the same macro (that assigns the marker to attack) and you do it at the same time, you can override someone elses marker. we had that a few times before we just opted for AM, where 2 people essentially pressed it around the same time and you saw 1 get the 1 marker, but it dissapeared to appear on someone else.

@lucasvallet4487

3 ай бұрын

@@DarkDyllon that's not what he's saying. Every person get his own unique marker to mark themselve with.

@undercoverspy123

3 ай бұрын

Funny RP server actually do mechanic aint that ironic.

@15ironreaver

3 ай бұрын

@@DarkDyllon So everyone gets a number 1-8. So no one has the same marker. Let’s say Gaol people are 2,5,8. They line up in order 2 first, 5 second, 8 third.

@DarkDyllon

3 ай бұрын

@@15ironreaver I know how the macro works, but we ran into the issue that the macro literally overwrite someone else's marker. so for example me and someone else pressed it at the same time, I got the 1 marker and saw it dissapear to appear on someone else's head, this is unfortunately not fool proof. Granted, making a priority system like UCOB with L1-4 and R1-4 could also work. for example OT = 1, H1 = 2. H2= 3 and then the m1, m2, r1 and r2 obviously, this could make it easier overal.

I still can’t use any hacks. I’m on PS5.

The only thing SE would do to combat Auto Markers is to prevent marking during combat. The exact same reason we can't place way markers during combat now.

I feel like arthars might be caught up in the cbu3/yoshi-p worship to give a more balanced take

I love how literally none of this would have happened if they gave us like 3-5 more seconds to resolve the first near/far world after the omega dodges. I mean this is the developer who admit they playtest in god mode. By all means take away AM, I know how to conga line, but i am NOT marking in by burst window, my gcd is 1.5.

The mechanics like Classical that give you the shapes above your head are basically the same thing as AM except they made it apart of the mechanic. Good design chouce for making priorities imo

The heavy reliance on debuffs we saw in TOP was absolutely horrendous. I get that it is "possible" to solve the P5 debuffs without AM, but it's just not a fun mechanic. Take away those debuffs and what do you have? A relatively difficult tether and bait phase with Delta, some near and far glitch solves with Sigma, and two predation dodges with Omega. This isn't terrible, but it's not an engaging phase. I want more of P6. Do that. Challenge my mit rotation on tank. Push my healing output on healer. Test my positioning knowledge on dps. And this is completely ignoring the problem that my co-tank and I had in TOP, that being both of us are partially blind. My eyes take a long time to focus compared to most other people and things tend to blend. I can't tell near and far world apart at a glance, let alone tell if I have the short or long one on omega. Devs keep using tiny tells like the slight glow on Hrae and Nidd TBs in DSR, or the terrible quotes in UCOB Nael that make the fights inaccessible. DSR and TEA are amazing fights with massive moving parts, tough and tight mechanics, and in the case of DSR, real knowledge of how your class works. Hopefully the devs are watching what's going on and design future fights with these things in mind.

he should turn off redeems during serious reacts cause its annoying as fuck

I don't really see why it's important if WF raiders use it or not, it is irrelevant who is using it if your opinion is that it is bad overall. In the case of "WF raiders cheat" - they get caught too - and the developers have reacted in increasing potency each time. Changing the game in TEA, bans in DSR and actual removal of clears in TOP alongside bans. Simply stating that they do it too does nothing to address Arthar's concerns about yoship's statement. It is stated very clearly that if people continue removing the challenge involved by cheating they do not see the point in creating the challenge in the first place. TOP P5 is absoutely bad design on the fight developer's part, adding a few restrictions and patterns around who can receive what buffs/debuffs would make this mechanic both more interesting, learnable and solvable. We are seeing more and more mechanics which are fully random in ultimates, and there is only so much priority systems can handle before they become too complicated to be expected of the raiding part of the playerbase. However, TOP P5's existence isn't an excuse to use AM, it is only a reason, and Arthar's opinion isn't "wrong". The amount of accepted cheating is steadily increasing and it will eventually come to a head.

Unless it’s a competition with some form of reward I 100% couldn’t care less what add-one you use if the groups fine with it. People buy clears so I genuinely don’t see outside of personal accomplishment why it matters.

@TheOneGreat

3 ай бұрын

That's exactly why the game gets worse. Terrible attitude.

@kyuxe

3 ай бұрын

​​@@TheOneGreatyes because of megawaffle612 and others with similar attitude the game gets worse, not because the devs design stupid shit

@kyuxe

3 ай бұрын

@@fabolousjada5070what are you talking about

@TheOneGreat

3 ай бұрын

@@kyuxe It's called pushing the envelope. The fact people think it is proves my point. If you use add-ons for fighting you're cheating. It's that simple.

@megawaffle612

3 ай бұрын

@@kyuxe My “attitude” is not caring what a group collectively agrees is fine and doing it so long as it’s not in a competitive setting (rewards, fame, etc). It’s absolutely cheating but it’s also been around for ages. Unless the Devs decide to go against it, it isn’t my job to police other people’s play. Fail to see how that’s “bad attitude”.

15:40 l just straight up buy a clear,lol.

I play on ps5....wth are auto markers?

nowadays you use AM in TEA tho :3

I dont really know much about Arthars in general and stuff with AM ngl

21:35 About shout out to the mods If I were in the shoes of SE, that would be a stupid idea because "You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can be used against you" It will be like an act of admission of mods making the game better than them and will make the players to demand more aggressively the implementation of mods ingame not just hoping the mod will become first party tool.

Saw this while twitter drama going down earlier, and the amount of people who arejust jumpiung the bandwagon on this is insane. legit people screaming that people using a beard mod should be perma banned

If automarkers got banned, people might have to communicate with each other in a mmo and that's against TOS

I'm currently progging TOP, and when we don't have a full static we fill spots using PF. We don't use AM for anything at all, for that p5 mechanic we self-mark, and there is plenty of time to do this in the leadup to when they're needed. Some players we find in PF literally can't do the fight without AM, and it's pretty frustrating. I agree though that the design of some of these mechanics is bad; it's stupid having to look at your debuffs constantly and use that to dictate what you should do, rather than having some visual cue in game. I hate mechanics where there is no visual cue ("just look at debuffs lol"), it's dumb, and I feel like this sort of thing is what pushes people towards using AM. Basically, we're at an impass; the mechanic is fucked, but possible; should we use AM to make it better? I wish AM wasn't the preferred way to do that mechanic, and there are quite a few players in PF who apparently agree, sometimes I come across a group where only one person wants it, or even nobody. I guess I just hope squeenix takes the feedback on board and recognises the problems with the way the mechanic is designed, and how to change their design strategy to make mechanics difficult whilst not also making AM such an easy win that PF defaults to using AM to solve it. I really don't think we should be okay with world-first groups cheating, and we shouldn't justify AM just because world-first groups use them. If we're calling AM cheating and telling PF to stop using AM, then we should apply the same logic to world-first groups, absolutely. Decide if AM is cheating or not and apply the same logic across the board to every player and every group.

@DarkDyllon

3 ай бұрын

most people simply don't care, since it doesn't affect them. for example, using AM for p5 ToP is just a convenience, most people will learn the mechanic, but it's either, 2 people mark everyone (good luck advertising that in PF) or you get AM to do it for you, at the end of the day, AM is 3rd party and interacts directly with the game, there for not allowed in the ToS. but the problem is, this ToS is so black and white that EVERYTHING falls under this. ACT? even if you purely use it for your own improvement, that's literally cheating, since you're not suppose to see what your DPS is. (stupid AF, don't get me wrong) chat bubbles? dear god! stop this man! being able to see the entire pull timer? OH NO! (yes, I use this, can easily play without, but the fact that 1, the pulltimer on screen is inaccurate, since the pull starts at 1 instead of 0 and you only see starting from 5 seconds, RDM for example needs to hard cast around 5.3-5.4 seconds, aka you're always late) honestly, unless SE finds a way to monitor what is being done to the game without monitoring what's on your PC, this isn't going away, and it doesn't affect me enough to give a shit about. world first uses plugins? tell me what top athlete doesn't use some technicality or something illegal without getting caught, is it right? nope, but at the end of the day, this is a video game, world 1st is literally just bragging rights, it's not like WoW where there can actually be a price pool. Granted, SE could release a client specifically for world 1st racers that they NEED to use and that can monitor much more, also see impossible plays and live record it so that any SE admin could jump in and review what's going on.

@flaviomolina7165

3 ай бұрын

​@@romualdgarcia7236 macros work if you get everyone to accept a standerized macro, if any starts self marking while others use a macro, shits ruined, youd need to agree.

@-UwU-catgirl-

3 ай бұрын

i've used self marking for 90% of my prog for uwu, and it worked great for a static. As soon as you get into PF the coordination just falls apart (my static fell apart so I had to go into PF). Honestly I hate mechs where self marking is a thing its just a waste of time in my personal opinion. i hate looking at debuffs too but it is what it is, and ik its not going away so its whatever. Honestly I'm fine with AM because its the same thing as having a raid leader call out a mech. Im not okay with like cactpot telling you each and every mechs because you can learn it easily. like the amount of guides I rewatch for savage and ultimate is a lot. AM is just convenient with marking.

@Tisen666

3 ай бұрын

PF people not necessarily know self-marker strat, like lpdu says "one guy marks everyone", so light pf doesn't know alternatives honestly. Which is a shame, and I hoped lpdu would come up with something else instead

@OracleCura

3 ай бұрын

@@DarkDyllon Yeah it's kinda fucked. Also dude you're completely right about the pull timer for RDM. I main RDM and I created a couple of audio files with metronome-like clicks to count me in to the 5s mark, triggered whenever the countdown shows up in chat. For example if someone starts a countdown at 15s, I get clicks starting at 10s, so I can hit ~5s perfectly every time. For anyone else it seems like the weirdest shit, it only seems to make sense to people who play RDM. It's one of a dozen little QoL things that we can only hope SE notices and implements something so third-party isn't required.

I love Xenos and Arthars relationship. They are such homies but still disagree with each other. Those are the type of friends you keep for life

I'm loling at the clip that trolled the WOW players. 🤣

I cleared DSR and TOP within a month of release, no AM. DSR is better designed but it's boring. I like TOP a lot but p5 dynamis Omega is really bad and should be never done again. Sigma is a very slow mechanic and you can do it no problem with a simple priority system by role and group. You dont need AM for sigma. Omega is far, far too busy and quick to dicern where you need to go for the first pass. I'm my opinion, the developers should just automark players for responsibilities during fast, complex mechanics. Doing this, you can make players perform more and you can design the mechanics to execute faster whilst getting rid of AMs significance.

Drink every time he says mentality

Idk how integrated the square staff are with their content creators, but jagex does a pretty decent job of listening to the community thru their content creators. Maybe they’ll try the same. Maybe they integrate the mods into the game so players don’t have to get banned. Who knows. I just know the games come along way from when i started and it’s beautiful