baumgaurter fans: _You know, I'm something of a_ restorationist _myself._

@BrotherofSki

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂🤦🏼‍♂️ so true

@magnusbane2177

4 жыл бұрын

Yes!

@katya_fhs

4 жыл бұрын

Soooo annoying to see all the "experts" in the comments.

@LuigiRosa

4 жыл бұрын

More than 700 vieweres were directed here for the same reason :-)

@darcy031685

3 жыл бұрын

Had I known you needed my expertise, I would have helped!

wow look at them attach washi kozo paper with a mild adhesive to stabilize the painting

@amandalouie13

4 жыл бұрын

I feel like we're all here just to satiate ourselves between Baumgartner uploads.

@tinakushner1758

4 жыл бұрын

But look at those giant pieces 🤮 small pieces are better for removal without paint loss afterwards...

@elidouek5438

4 жыл бұрын

Ich K. That’s incorrect. The small sheets of Washi Kozo is used when the painting has lots of impasto. The small sheets better conform to the painting

@raefrater4172

4 жыл бұрын

Someone's done their homework on Baumgartner's channel😂

@LyndseyMacPherson

4 жыл бұрын

Right! And most of us would not know about washi kozo were it not for Julian, who teaches us so much. This did not endeavour to teach, but still fun to see.

I just want to say that tacks are far more superior than staples. thank you.

@user-mn2gm2ws7i

4 жыл бұрын

Jiku Nue baumgartner restoration who? never heard of her.

@luciadilazzaro2285

4 жыл бұрын

They usted coper tacks. Sacrilege.

@nelsonx5326

3 жыл бұрын

Staples are fine.

@judydoyle1124

3 жыл бұрын

I saw the staple gun and guffawed-

@persgodiva

3 жыл бұрын

*WILD APPLAUSE*

Let's just admit we're all here after binging Baumgartner Restorations

@MsRedwiz

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah - I've run out of episodes /withdrawal

@carolejean5102

4 жыл бұрын

Not only are Baumgartner's videos more informative, his background music (ie Evolving Dawn) is superior - AND we get to see the finished product!

@lolok1099

4 жыл бұрын

I’m not

@qrbital9861

4 жыл бұрын

Yes

@brettbigham8420

4 жыл бұрын

Are you spying on me?!! Lol... yup.

I don't know why I am so surprised when I see every step they take is basically the same in Baumgartener's channel!

@icarovieira8756

4 жыл бұрын

i love the Baumgartener channel

@moussedechocolat

4 жыл бұрын

why would they do it differently?

@stephanemami

4 жыл бұрын

They do use staples at the end...

@mikebatton

4 жыл бұрын

Baumgartner has a pretty bad rep with these restorers in particular. They have some very valid complaints about his methods.

@lamiluik6644

4 жыл бұрын

Imagine Baumgartner sitting down to retouching of this image ... 10 years later a clip would appear on YT

Me after watching every Baumgartner video out there: polyester!?!? Why not Belgian linen???

@sarahmakingthings

4 жыл бұрын

The polyester was stated to be temporary. They changed the final lining afterwards, I think, as it looks much darker and heavier.

@anarojas1210

4 жыл бұрын

Yliana Chaleff I thought the same 😂

@psammiad

4 жыл бұрын

Because we''re British! We might have chopped off his head, but we don't want any of that foreign muck on the back of Charles I!

@lkmayhew9390

3 жыл бұрын

I ask the same question!

@SJActress

3 жыл бұрын

@@sarahmakingthings Agreed. And also, if you listen carefully, he explains that the temporary polyester was adhered to the washikozo (the protective paper on the the front), not the canvas itself, i.e., it never came in contact with the work. Even if he wouldn't do that, I think Baumgartner would agree that it is a harmless and not irresponsible choice.

I was hoping to hear mentions of Kozo paper, Belgian canvas and some pointed comments on the work of the previous restorers; but the use of brass tacks was satisfying.

@ayannabertrand6985

4 жыл бұрын

Same

@drumptruck6268

4 жыл бұрын

Baumgartner spoiled us

@APFC95

4 жыл бұрын

this comment was satisfying

@littledrummergirl_19

4 жыл бұрын

Wait but they said in the video that they’re copper tacks - didn’t Julian say copper tacos end up being problematic because they oxidize over time? He said that during a video where he had to remove some from a painting and it had stained the canvas green. Why is the national gallery using copper tacks as opposed to steel?? 😂

@NebulonBMedicalFrig

4 жыл бұрын

@@littledrummergirl_19 Both iron and copper oxidize, and normally, metal oxides form protective layers that prevent further oxidation, but in iron, exposure to water results in further reactions creating rust that allows corrosion to continue, resulting in rapid disintegration. However, copper's protective oxide layer can discolor the canvas, unlike iron's. Their decision to use copper here probably reflects them trying to avoid a potential disaster in the future if the tacks are exposed to lots of moisture.

Wish they had shown more details. Like when they placed the painting on the lining canvas they didn't show the process . Too many interviews instead of showing technical details

@duchessofdissent5728

4 жыл бұрын

Heidi Schumacher have you ever watched Baumgartner restoration? I know absolutely nothing about art but he shows & talks about his processes. I agree they should shown more technique.

@Trekkifulshay

4 жыл бұрын

@@duchessofdissent5728 I was just coming to suggest his channel as well since he explains the reasons behind the different techniques.

@karalee6522

4 жыл бұрын

Baumgarnter has spoiled us and no other restoration videos live up to my expectations.

@CoastalCookies

4 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha I also came here to recommend the Baumgartner Restoration YT channel. He’s SO GOOD!

@lakhaulas

4 жыл бұрын

@@karalee6522 he indeed put our standard so high

It's so nice to see a group of Professional Conservators working together in restoring a historically important painting!

@claudiahayes8833

4 жыл бұрын

JONATHAN SUTCLIFFE as a person who works in a museum... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

@gloriagarcia8984

3 жыл бұрын

@JONATHAN SUTCLIFFE ...what?

If KZread had existed when I was a teenager, I would have had a way bigger knowledge about my options when I was planning what to do with my life. Back then they were so scarce, many young guys had to choose between a buch of paths that didn't look appealing at all. Man, it was like not seeing the forest because I had a tree trunk in front of my face. With channels like this, I would be 100% sure about what to do.

@OrontesRM

3 жыл бұрын

So true. We would also have had many more opinions on several academies / universities directly from the alumni, they would have been easier to contact and exchange opinions with

I can't imagine what it would be like to paint something so important that so many people would come together to preserve it. Fascinating.

@Khaltazar

4 жыл бұрын

Something like that would be so stressful. Imagine being responsible for messing it up and ruining so many people's time and money of the center that holds it.

@cameronmcgehee

4 жыл бұрын

@@Khaltazar Well I mean, you wouldn't be responsible for anything if it wasn't good...it's not like the person who painted this painting was being pressured by a bunch of people to make something...it just became well known after it was made.

@2adamast

4 жыл бұрын

@@cameronmcgehee I agree Van Dijck, was having fun splashing paint by the square meter for yesterdays millionaires. We just decided that yesterdays showing off artefacts are culture and worth our veneration. For me the preparation sketches of that generation are often better and more to my taste than the finished works.

@sleekoduck

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure he had a team of apprentices helping him complete his work as well.

Just imagine having lunch with all of these professionals. The wealth of experience is incredible.

I am here because I watch Baumgartener’s Channel and love how he explains what he is doing. This video is just a resume of international restorers who worked on a project. We didn’t even get to see the end result.

@nationalgallery

4 жыл бұрын

Hi there Carol DeCarlucci, this is an on-going restoration project which isn't finished yet! We'll be sharing the finished painting on our social channels next year. If you'd like to see more of the restoration on this painting, having a look at our video on cleaning the work: kzread.info/dash/bejne/rJ6m25ijf7bAd84.html

@Chr.U.Cas2216

4 жыл бұрын

@@nationalgallery Dear Carol DeCarlucci. This comment of yours and a lot of comments made by viewers would have been totally unnecessary if the title would have been added with the simple words: Part 1 !!!! Nevertheless: Thank you for the link to another part of this great restoration. Best regards, luck, health and wisdom.

@steverundle8635

3 жыл бұрын

Carol DeCarlucci , yeah, we’re slumming here. Missing Baumgarten’s clean corners before the application of his pretty label. Hello gang, thought I’d find you sniffing around the global restoration world.Why don’t they show the final product?.

@FlourescentPotato

2 жыл бұрын

@@steverundle8635 you need a better hobby lol

Someone get Baumgartner Restoration in on this

The artist must be smiling somewhere, knowing all the love that has been lavished on his huge masterwork.

These professional conservators are the unsung heroes of our cultural heritage. We owe them so much; restoring paintings must be one of the most difficult and painstaking of tasks in any museum. It is fascinating to watch them work.

Wow, Baumgartner would never approve of the staples used at the end!

@missmerbella

3 жыл бұрын

Baumgartner isn't God FFS.

@btsarmy8114

3 жыл бұрын

@@missmerbella he’s good

@timberlunadeazul

2 жыл бұрын

@@missmerbella He might be 🤔

Thank you, one and all in this video, restorers, conservators, assistants and interns, for your tedious work and professionalism. Preserving this painting is truly a collaborative accomplishment.

The international sharing of knowledge is so important!

I like how most of the commentors came over from Baumgartners channel. Because all Art has to be shared.

Wheres Julian?

Watching Baumgartner gives me the most pleasure. I'm looking for more channels like his.

@jeanniethompson561

2 жыл бұрын

Try Thomas Johnson Furniture Restorations in Gorem, Maine.

Heartwarming to see international cooperation between world class institutions

Facinating..this is what I wanted to do with my life. My parents didn't think girls needed a college education and it was before grants etc.....so I just learned to paint on my pwn..but neve= got to restore the masters....i cried when I saw the article in national geographic on the restorization of the Sistine chapel..what fascinating work.

Interesting to see how one man Baumgartner ,has made so many people take an interest in this type of work. Perhaps something the museums should take note of? With interest in the subject comes money and awareness,I can say on this subject most people are watching this because of Baumgartner. I think hes spotted a trick you museums have missed.

Maybe it is a sign of my increasing age (though I am not quite as old as the painting but certainly in need of restoration!) but I am impressed by the number of young conservators. Thanks, blessings and peace to these people for their painstaking work.

Wonderful seeing masters of their work collaborating with younger conservators to secure the next generation's understanding.

Passing along such detailed and complicated a process. As the Met rep said, not always done, but when necessary certainly preserves and improves a National treasure!

*eating oreos at my desk at 3am* *only exposure to paining restoration is that I started watching Baumgartner's videos literally yesterday* COPPER TACS? What is this? STEEL TACS!

I admire this community of conservators!!

Wow! Thank you for filming this. What a lot of washi kozo needed!

What a massive undertaking to have so many conservators working on it. Thanks for posting.

@nationalgallery

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Katie, thanks for watching!

Thanks to Getty and this passionate group of artisans for maintaining and preserving amazing masterpieces . Future generations will enjoy these treasures because of your hard work ! Thank you so much !

Where’s Julian?

Nice comments about their work of restauration but I wish we could see the painting,the details and whole view,and not just people's faces for 90 percent of the video.

So cool that all these people from around the world came together to work on this project.

Fascinating to watch this, emphasising the huge (literally!) challenge of restoring this marvellous painting. Also very heartening to learn of the Getty’s initiative in bringing together young conservators to work as a team on the project, who can then return to their individual museums with such invaluable experience to share with colleagues. Great stuff!

This is such a great inside look at the quiet yet indispensable behind the scenes work of dedicated conservers of great art. I particularly like that professionals from great museums outside the UK joined in this restoration. Thanks for this experience.

Man that’s so cool! To see all these conservators from all over the world come to tackle this big project and learn in the same wind, it gives me back some faith in humanity. ❤️

@georgealderson4424

3 жыл бұрын

Me too and they are young so will be around in the future!

The collaboration is paramount for the preservation of our respective national treasures. I thank for the National Gallery for allowing a member of the Rijksmuseum the opportunity to part take in the restoration of such beautiful painting. Atoon van Dyck is a favourite painter of mine.

Amazing to see so many artisans sharing their knowledge. Thanks Getty Foundation.

I can safely say that baumgartener's restoration is museum quality

Well I enjoyed the video and look forward to seeing the finished restoration, thank you :D

*me, an intellectual and a Baumgartenerer, laying in bed and shouting at the screen with a mouth full of chips* THAT HAD BETTER BE JAPANESE TISSUE PAPER, YOU AMATEURS

This was really informative and I really love that professionals from all over the world were able to take part and gain experience on such a formidable project. The Getty Foundation was certainly generous in it’s outreach. And I’m glad there are more videos of the actual restoration....this is such an iconic portrait that I’m sure I’m not the only one interested in watching the process!

Such a brilliant idea to get different people from different regions to work together on a large project like this.

I guess KZread recommended this to me since I watch Baumgartner Restorations

This must be such a satisfying job

I’m getting a real Ghostbusters 2 vibe from this Vigo the Carpathian is gonna appear any minute now

Shame not to see the end result of all this monumental hard work. And, of course, Van Dyke's masterpiece. However, Charles 1st, looking quite the dude in this painting, lost his head in 1649. So much for pomp and circumstance.

@nationalgallery

4 жыл бұрын

Hi there, this is an on-going restoration project which isn't quite finished yet. We'll be sharing the finished painting on our social channels next year. If you'd like to see more of the restoration on this painting, having a look at our video on cleaning the work: kzread.info/dash/bejne/rJ6m25ijf7bAd84.html

I would love to see a Part II, showing the retouching and finished piece.

These are the most underestimated artist out there...preserving masterpieces and bringing them back to life!

Bob Ross would say: "Van Dyck's Brown!" yea, masterspiece

@nikkiistired9868

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this comment. I was trying to figure out what color it was.

What a monumental task with a piece of this immense size and extreme age. Just the straightening of the frame and the relaxing of the original weave to further your efforts. The loss of the priming must have been rather extensive given the need to recreate the woven texture before any the isolation varnish before the actual retouching could begin. Wish you every success with its completion. Warmest regards.

Such important work, and I’m not talking about the restoration of this painting in particular although I’m glad it’s happening, but the sharing of discovery, knowledge and technique.

Baumgartner Restoration the best

This has been super fascinating to see, both parts. I'd love to see a more detailed look at the retouching process itself, too. I was surprised to hear it would take so many months, and am curious why!

This is amazing. The real reference for all the viewers is Baumgartner. And it shows that we have all learned from is lessons. I trust we all love National Gallery’s channel once we can view the conservation of great works of art. Thank you PS: yes, why not Belgian linen…

It's incredibly fascinating to watch the conservation process for a priceless work of art, but I can't help thinking about the fact that the subject of this painting was famously beheaded.

Looking forward to seeing this after the retouching. Amazing skills and group effort!

when do we get the ASMR-ish version of this video?

Watching very closely to make sure they dont do anything to disappoint my guy Julien

@retrosimon9843

2 жыл бұрын

staples ?

Wow until now Getty family still support restoration of old paintings...

Excellent commentary and knowledge on saving our collective cultural masterpieces of importance , and skills to do so: I'm jealous. !!! 🌿

An incredible undertaking to conserve a painting of that size and importance. Its brilliant to bring together that international team of talented to do the work.

Fascinating. Such incredibly painstaking work that conservators do. They are incredibly dedicated. 🤗

My dream job❤️

Let's see the finished project...nope? Oh well.

@launabanauna8958

4 жыл бұрын

rural juror I know right!

@nationalgallery

4 жыл бұрын

Hi there, this is an on-going restoration project which isn't finished yet! We'll be sharing the finished painting on our social channels next year. If you'd like to see more of the restoration on this painting, having a look at our video on cleaning the work: kzread.info/dash/bejne/rJ6m25ijf7bAd84.html

@Trixtah

4 жыл бұрын

@@nationalgallery Why not link to the first video in the description, then? After the first paragraph. And put the two videos plus any others to come in a playlist?

@stevefranks9873

4 жыл бұрын

Presumably the restoration thus far has taken quite some time, and they managed to hold off posting a video until the work was 3/4 done. Why not just wait until the work is complete and then post the entire video? Alternatively, post videos in smaller, more detailed segments. I will admit to being annoyed at watching a 15 minute restoration video with no ending. I believe that's called "bait and switch". Bad form Peter, bad form.

The people are like surgeons and doctors working on the painting

Wish I was in London to come see the finished product. Hopefully I'll get to visit someday! Fascinating video, it'd be cool if galleries showed more of the behind the scenes work in person in addition to online.

Incredible work. Absolutely astounding.

In the description it says the painting is 12 ft tall and 3 ft wide??? either i am blind or-

@nationalgallery

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Den, this was an error. The painting is 12 ft tall and 9 ft wide. This has been changed in the description.

@Den-dd5pp

4 жыл бұрын

@@nationalgallery Oh, great! That makes more sense, thank you!

Why are these comments so judgemental? Also for those complaining about not seeing the end, the title has "restoring" (present tense) in it. Meaning they're still working on it!

Omg. This is so amazing

How did I miss this painting when I visited the National Gallery??? It was probably in the rooms closed off cause of the strike like the Rembrandt’s 😢

Excellent touch to a special painting

Not only a great Centre Back but also a great Painter

What an interesting job they have.

Respect!

more people must learn this

wow, this is such an interesting video! Great team work for such a difficult task.

I wanted to see the finished restoration! I felt ripped off at the end.

What about stainless steel tacks? The tacks are hammered in very neatly.

looks liek a great job

I got chills when I saw the CR initials

Amazing 🖤✨✨

Quite a collegial enterprise!

Found it really interesting to hear about how the project brought together young international conservators. But not really a video about the conserving process which it’s title implies.

I missed the bit about what they used to bind the painting to the lining canvas ? Resin, sheet glue ?

Fantastic to watch. Fascinating to understand and comprehend. I have experience working in a lab. It still sounds counterintuitive that: a) attaching tissue paper on a painting doesn't harm the painting. While, b) It's also equally hard to imagine that SCRAPING adhesive off, of the back of a 394 yr old painting doesn't ultimately end up flaking off paint, from the front-tissue papered side of the painting. c) For that matter doesn't scraping the back of the painting also wear down the fiber surface of the canvas? Please explain further.

@alexismontez4230

4 жыл бұрын

Go watch Baumgartner restoration, he explains it well

What an amazing project!! Thank you so much for sharing!! But, I would like to ask; have you kept any samples from the wax or the varnish? Have you done any scientific analysis on them with characterisation techniques? If yes; is there any published article to read? Thank you!!

Remembering Victoria Memorial Hall India. Sprit and devotion still alive.

Love this video however very disappointing that you did not show the finished product and even before and after shots at the end!

@nationalgallery

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Michael, this is an on-going restoration project which isn't finished yet! We'll be sharing the finished painting on our social channels next year. If you'd like to see more of the restoration on this painting, having a look at our video on cleaning the work: kzread.info/dash/bejne/rJ6m25ijf7bAd84.html

90% of the viewers are Baumgartner's subscribers...😂

Copper tacks don't rust? That surprises me, I've seen copper oxidise before and it's not a pretty picture. Pardon the pun.

@NebulonBMedicalFrig

4 жыл бұрын

Rusting is a special kind of oxidation that iron undergoes, involving extra chemical reactions that result in it disintegrating. Most metals that oxidize, like copper, have their oxidized layer act as a hard protective shell instead.

@MrFunkia

3 жыл бұрын

Copper doesn't rust, but it does corrode.

this exquisite portrait! one of the most beautiful things on earth, certainly! i recall seeing this painting EVEN LARGER in the breakfast room on TV's Downton Abbey, right behind the seated Hugh Bonneville. is this a copy? i know that many famous portraits were sometimes copied in their time by admirers and that is possibly the case w/ this one of King Charles. what a statement that made in the series - to see that gorgeous MASTERPIECE on TV in that SPLENDID setting! UTTERLY JAW DROPPING! YOWZER!

Bellissimo, complimenti!! Sto studiando restauro a Firenze. Il mio sogno è ridare vita ai pittori e alle loro opere. Proteggiamo sempre la cultura artistica!!

I wish there had been a showing of the finished project at the end, assuming it was finished by the end of taping.

Très intéressant

Copper doesn't rust? On what planet?

@flowerdolphin5648

4 жыл бұрын

It doesn't rust, it corrodes. Though the processes of rusting and corroding are very similar. That's what a quick Google search spits out. So according to that, they're right.

@semiramisbonaparte1627

4 жыл бұрын

MARS