“If Manchester City Draw 38 games we are invincible and Relegated” had me DEAD

@olilais92

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@kvngafrica

2 жыл бұрын

it’s facts tho😂😂😂

@matts6816

2 жыл бұрын

@@kvngafrica if my nan had balls she would have been my grandad

@kvngafrica

2 жыл бұрын

@@matts6816 congratulations

@davidkwizera9457

2 жыл бұрын

arsenal were invicible and won the title. So there's a huge difference.

Says “Arsenal fan” as if we don’t know who this guy is.

@serene1915

2 жыл бұрын

No respect for the DON

@misha3958

2 жыл бұрын

the DON

@essa616

2 жыл бұрын

yeah he isn’t an arsenal fan if he uploads people abusing their own players on his channel

@melonenlord6901

2 жыл бұрын

The Don showing his humble side for the general public once again. Has his family name on screen, while the random guy gets to be called "Big Steve". They say a true king isnt the one who punishes a lot, but the one that pardons people.

@MohamedHassan-lu8kh

2 жыл бұрын

don robbie and big steve know each other well lol

Steve is proply the most awesome footballfan in the world. Seriously.. How easy would it be to be a United fan in the 90s? But stand behind his small team City and now gets the all the benefits of staying true and loyal.

That Grealish debate aged well

@wizzlurkio2669

10 ай бұрын

Nice champions league final he had…👀

@roronozoro11

10 ай бұрын

@@wizzlurkio2669 still bigger than assna \

@noranqey

8 ай бұрын

@@wizzlurkio2669 Nice champions league trophy he has

@Jamesryan19

8 ай бұрын

Grealish is obviously better than Smith Row. But at the time this debate was had, Grealish wasn’t getting played very much and Smith Row was on form starting a lot. But now, Grealish steeped up a lot and is better than Smith Row

Everyone hating on grealish but forgetting rodri and cancelo took time to get use to the system…now they both are beast

@TYYYYYYY

2 жыл бұрын

First time Rodri n cancelo in prem

@javigotbooze8256

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, doesn’t matter where u last played from, it’s about the fact that someone is adapting to a new system

@vanillaoverchocolate5440

2 жыл бұрын

It's not like Grealish wasn't playing in the Prem before he went to City. Esr has been way better than him this season. There's no debate there

@Sunny-no1ir

2 жыл бұрын

@@vanillaoverchocolate5440 It's not that Rodri, Cancelo, Silva etc didn't play in the prem before it's that Pep's system is drastically different to others for example Mahrez played in the prem with Leicester for years and he didn't have the greatest debut season for Man city Grealish is coming from a team where the strategy was pass to Grealish and inshallah within time Grealish will get going

@GVM109

2 жыл бұрын

So they paid 100 mil for a player so he Can be good in 1-2 years😂😂😂

Strange how club fans who are not winning cling to the "history" while the teams that are winning are creating it

@turbotiger82

2 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly

@austinlarrimore6542

2 жыл бұрын

Current day success eventually will become history.

@khaledalham4925

2 жыл бұрын

true

@crimsoncityzen5282

2 жыл бұрын

Ikr, history starts somewhere

@user-nw2io4ui1n

2 жыл бұрын

so true

When big Steve mentioned his journey as a city fan 😭💙 that was it for me. Man won the entire debate with that part. It was emotional and shows exactly what it takes for fans to do absolutely everything to follow their club Respect To the Legend Big Steve

@ahoy96

Жыл бұрын

You had no fans in 08, as soon as you get money suddenly all these fans come out the woodwork

@maxxfaxx5408

Жыл бұрын

@@ahoy96 did u support ur team back in 1912?? no? u plastic

@ahoy96

Жыл бұрын

@@maxxfaxx5408 right that's realistic you cardboard box

@t3hgr3atest

Жыл бұрын

@@ahoy96 living in a fantasy land you twat

@Bsnaoa

Жыл бұрын

@@ahoy96back in 08 I was a kid, I found a club that I liked not because of trophies, but because it felt interesting and special to me, so I got more invested in it and I’ve been a city fan for almost 10 years now

The Arsenal Invincibles was a great team but the Centurions had the most points ever, the most wins ever, and the most goals ever and then went on the next season to get 98 points. I will take the Centurions for those reasons.

@minorears5205

2 жыл бұрын

The Centurions is a great footballing achievement. The Invincible's are a great sporting achievement. Going a whole league tournament without an off day?

@bismarkyeboah70

2 жыл бұрын

@@minorears5205 oh absolutely. Being unbeaten is an amazing feat. But I think the city team is better . To have 198 points in two seasons is quite incredible.

@user-nw2io4ui1n

2 жыл бұрын

facts

@user-hw6zh1tp5b

2 жыл бұрын

Technically yes, but the invincibles did that against Fergies Man Utd and that counts for something

@bismarkyeboah70

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-hw6zh1tp5b well that's true but let's not forget that the following season, the Centurions went against a Liverpool team that had 97 points and won the Champions League.

*This season? Yes Smith-Rowe has been better than Grealish. That’s a fact.*

@Raheem1894

2 жыл бұрын

i agree, city fan.

@andrewjones1008

2 жыл бұрын

yh he has but grealish doesnt get into citys strongest XI

@kevingreaves5850

2 жыл бұрын

Just cause he’s been better so far this season doesn’t make him a better player all together

@zaronez462

2 жыл бұрын

No way near 👎🤣

@iykeharrison9161

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevingreaves5850 No one is saying that he is a better player to Grealish, all round. Grealish has been around the block a lot longer, so his game has matured much more, but Smith Rowe is still at the infancy stage of his senior career. So it will be unfair at this stage to compare them. However, on current form and when you consider the teams that they each play for, Smith Rowe is doing a lot better at the moment.

I agree with the fact that Arsenal is currently a bigger club in comparison to city. But its ignorant to say that City will NEVER be bigger or as big as arsenal. The history argument is true, but if city consistently win trophies or more trophies than arsenal for years to come, the stature of the club will be similar to Arsenal. History has to start somewhere. Ask this question in 10-20 years from now.

@jstnio

2 жыл бұрын

But then ignoring the fact that arsenal still can win trophies, also the whole argument of a bigger club isn’t down to trophies, it also relies on fans, and clearly arsenal will always top Man City. You also have to take into account pep won’t be there forever, and finding a replacement will be hard, similar to United or Chelsea’s situation. Also in 10-20 years I would expect oil sales to be low, leading their owner to leave the club, basing this of the fact that most cars will become electric.

@jstnio

2 жыл бұрын

Also you have to realise history will always be there, in 10 odd years Man City have let’s say 35 trophies, they currently have 28. Arsenal have 48 let’s say they win fa cups and europa leagues and whatever, 52 let’s say. They will still remain a bigger club than city, this also doesn’t mention the fact that Pep has 2 more seasons left in his contract, after that who is replacing him.

@bigginge0337

2 жыл бұрын

“history has to start somewhere” 👌

@darthvadar2915

2 жыл бұрын

Arsenal have been around for much longer. You can’t be a big club by spending 300m every season. No one will respect you

@jaya6204

2 жыл бұрын

@@jstnio its alright mate elon musk will take ever😂👍np

To all the Man City haters - ‘The past was yours but the future’s ours’.

@hulk8384

2 жыл бұрын

💯💯💙💙💙

@relaxingmusic2924

Жыл бұрын

Now you're getting relegated

@opo7968

Жыл бұрын

@@relaxingmusic2924 we dont really care CTID

@xallog2891

Жыл бұрын

@@opo7968 yeah you do, you'll be chanting for chelsea next summer

@opo7968

Жыл бұрын

@@xallog2891 haha thats a good one, been supporting them for 11 years, I don't think someone like that will get me to support another club

Steve explaining his fan journey was honestly incredible 🫡

one thing pep should learn is that the longer he stays at city the harder it will be to find a suitable replacement

@comfortmwansambo2318

2 жыл бұрын

The problem is any manager city brings in after pep is a downgrade and we can't runaway from that

@netweed09

2 жыл бұрын

@@comfortmwansambo2318 Yep,, unless it's Zidane lol. Nah, I think Pep is even better. His man-management skills are literally a player-upgrade machine for free his is magic. Would anyone ever say 4 years ago that players like Bernado, Sterling and Foden would be dominating the League?!

@TheBrass18

2 жыл бұрын

Why would he want to leave?

@gauthamshivakumar5237

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheBrass18 he might leave at the end of the season

@jackcollins6218

2 жыл бұрын

How? Pep hasn't won the champions league... He is literally winning everything previous mangers won

My man asked why smith Rowe didn’t turn up against city when we played 5 back with 10 men and had an atrocious defense with kolasinac at Center back 😂😂

@protagonist9794

2 жыл бұрын

😂

@serene1915

2 жыл бұрын

LOOOOOL it was technically 9 men coz Auba too 😭😭

@netweed09

2 жыл бұрын

I know, Arteta should have been sacked for that alone. We got no standards (management I mean), happy with spending £150mn on 5th?? What a joke!!

@username-mf4mu

2 жыл бұрын

@@netweed09 gabriel and white couldn't play or saka

@username-mf4mu

2 жыл бұрын

@@netweed09 and were 4th and 150 mil is making up for the years were we spent fuck all. And 150 mil is about average for a big club

"Hey steve champions again, thanks man, Robbie big club again man thanks man" That had me dead

People don’t realise Aston Villa built their team around Grealish and was their focal point in attack. Now at city he’s just another player in a different system. He needs time to get used to this.

@shaimistry1149

2 жыл бұрын

I do agree with you but it doesn't change the fact that esr has been playing better than grealish this season. And yes it is gonna take him time to adapt to city but smith rowe is 21 and is playing better.

@Ashley-iz9iy

2 жыл бұрын

He cost 100 million because to Aston Villa he was worth that much. To everyone else that was overpriced but to Villa it was worth it

@phillipimran7377

Жыл бұрын

@@Ashley-iz9iy The reason why we set that price was to deter clubs away from trying to buy him, but city were like meh that's nothing to us 😆🤣

@mda4035

11 ай бұрын

Called it 🍾

@57mykz

11 ай бұрын

And look how it turned out, great prediction

As a gooner, with the first question, the history argument doesn’t really make sense because if city keep winning things like they are now, in 25 years, their “history” would be now

@samwize28

2 жыл бұрын

By that logic Brentford are massive, because in 25 years time their history could encompass 12 prem titles that they could win between not and then. Granted City are much more likely to win a lot in that time frame, but you take my point. If in 25 years time that is the case, then fair enough, until then 😐

@eddyededwin

2 жыл бұрын

@@samwize28 doesnt need 25 years, say they win 2 more titles and 2 champions lesgue in the next 5-10 years. u can already make a legitimate argument thry are bigger since arsenal achieved nothing in europe yet (and dont look like they will any time soon)

@rickycampbell582

2 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing in 20 ish years if city keep on the run they on, their " history" would be better than arsenal

@markn5904

2 жыл бұрын

It's not 25 years from now, it's 2021. People seem to think we started winning during the Wenger years smh

@rickycampbell582

2 жыл бұрын

Yes but in the future, today will be the past hence the "HISTORY" part. And the question was city will NEVER be as big as arsenal and who are we to say that won't be the case in 20 years especially if city keeps winning everything

when the city fan talked about his journey i had some type of feeling, made me have tremendous respect for city fans and i continue to wish on y’all’s success 🙏🏽

@jmacmcfc4662

2 жыл бұрын

Respect matey… CTID

@theonick2302

2 жыл бұрын

@@thomaswhite942 truth :)

@unwarysage05w32

2 жыл бұрын

Yea the real city fans of course

@thebuzz2010

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah all 25 of them #respect #fakeclub

@eaglemma1020

2 жыл бұрын

Ur not even from The uk 😂😂 USA fans are always bandwagon fans to the club whos winning 😂😂😂

Big Steve is a genius. Talking nothing but facts and being hilarious wit it 😂

Robbie didn’t want to answer the Wenger question the way he truly wanted to. He was one of the main one’s who drove him out of the club

@sub2me976

2 жыл бұрын

I highly doubt someone on KZread drove an arsenal manager out arsenal football club do not have a fuck about them 💀

@austinlarrimore6542

2 жыл бұрын

If arsenal got better after he left and won a league or something it be different. But they were saying how shit he was and how he was ruining the club then he left and they got worse. So they weren’t vendicated on their opinion they were proven wrong

@gregordrizzlewing7339

2 жыл бұрын

@@sub2me976 the aftv movement defo was a part to blame they are toxic

@brunovieira2314

2 жыл бұрын

@@gregordrizzlewing7339 Bro, Wenger had to go. They are not toxic, they did the team a favour. Look at what Arteta is up to now. That is the future.

As a Liverpool fan, I’ve nothing but respect for this City fan

@realisttv2834

2 жыл бұрын

@ClippedCam facts

@gardtheoriginal3871

2 жыл бұрын

Can’t remember asking tho😧

@mo2k638

2 жыл бұрын

Nobody cares you support Liverpool stop looking for approval weirdo

@firstplace7151

2 жыл бұрын

@ClippedCam Liverpool fc bigger than both these clubs put together

@crimsoncityzen5282

2 жыл бұрын

@ClippedCam will

The invincible trophy wasnt tiny that was just Arsene Wengers leaving present

@sscotty1623

2 жыл бұрын

left a decade later LMAO

@netweed09

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, the real one is in the Marble Halls at the Emirates of course.

Seeing Robbie compare jack to ems after the treble is so funny 😂

@Manunited321

10 ай бұрын

Hell yeah😂😂😂

city did have a history before they were taken over they had league title a european cup winners cup ect so to say they have no history is incorrect. yes they arent successful as arsenal are in history but citys dominant history is being made now. city are 6 league titles behind arsenal and how long will that be till they catch that one up. in terms of citys spending arsenal have spent money over the years even when they were successful they were paying the biggest wages in the early 2000s so no successfull football club win trophies consistently without investment. plus arsenal have spent money in recent years theyve just spent it badly look at the 72 million on pepe. in terms of arsenals invincibles thats all they seem to cling on to because they havent won a league since and seem to only have that arguement in recent years. i been a season ticket since 93 and tbh i agree with steve here i wouldnt change my journey for anyone because it makes me appreciate the current success the club are having right now beause when you have really been down in the mud you appreciate the things more..... arsenal are currently holding onto there previous successes and can sometimes be blinded by that which means they cant then see that there current team arent there anymore and are lets be honest a bit behind city in the current climate.

This 'if you draw 38 games you get relegated' argument is so stupid. People make out as if the Invinvibles drew all their games and got an award for it. No. They *won the league* and went unbeaten

@BestInTheWorld13x

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly it makes me know peoples football brain when they say that

@alex_ander-22-

2 жыл бұрын

With 90 points aswell

@inquisitorsneed2

2 жыл бұрын

@@alex_ander-22- would come 3rd nowadays

@franzralphuy6826

2 жыл бұрын

@@inquisitorsneed2 prime barca will destroy man city whats your point?

@inquisitorsneed2

2 жыл бұрын

@@franzralphuy6826 my point is their points tally was average the year they went invincible, there has been atleast 4 other better premier league teams

Steve hit the nail on the head with one comment “I wouldn’t swap any other football journey for the one we’ve been on” Spot on! It’s been incredible.From York City to Real Madrid,it’s been a hell of a ride

@DUBSDADEVILL

2 жыл бұрын

But you only done it for five minutes why do you think most Liverpool fans Arsenal fans are happy when you beat Man united your club isn't hated yet because you haven't built any animosity will take you another decade to catch up to our trophies.

@tt-ln4mc

2 жыл бұрын

@@DUBSDADEVILL at the rate they are going though they will have more than Man U in less than 10 years

@skcrd6816

2 жыл бұрын

Thats true but a bit far from the actual question.

@Regarno

2 жыл бұрын

@@DUBSDADEVILL our club isn’t hated? Our club gets bantered every second of every minute mate, no rival fan can deal with how good of a team we are. Every rival fans hates city and it’s clear to see

@Johndoe-gf7eu

2 жыл бұрын

@꧄𒈙𒁏𒀰𒌧𒌧𒈙t𒀱꧄𒀰꧄𒈙꧄𒈙꧄𒈙𒈙𒀰𒀰𒈙꧄꧄𒈙𒁏𒀰𒌧𒌧𒈙t𒀱꧄𒀰꧄𒈙꧄𒈙꧄𒈙𒈙𒀰𒀰𒈙꧄ are you sure? If city won the league for the next 12 years every year they would still have less titles than united 😂😂😂

Treble life a year later I want this debate agian😂

I’m not a city fan but I can understand city fans not giving a balls about people calling them an oil club, especially by fans who don’t actually attend games and are watching from Ireland or Malaysia. They don’t understand the highs and lows of actually following a team. You can turn off the tv and forget about it, it’s not the same as lads traveling across the country and getting battered 4-0 who then have to travel all the way back with that in their head. Football isn’t a tv show, but they don’t understand that sitting in their couch commenting “No fans” over and over on city posts

@BigPercNowitzki

Жыл бұрын

We don’t care because like the guy said in the video, we would rather have the money and the trophies than no money and no trophies. And fans of every single club in the prem would be just fine with their club doing the same

I remember when Arsenal being 4th was a meme and now it's a dream.

@j1hogz14

2 жыл бұрын

Chelsea celebrating 4th place last season yet meted arsenal years before for getting 4th constantly

@mikenluke

2 жыл бұрын

Whilst currently sitting in 4th, hardly

@gooner_duke2756

2 жыл бұрын

all clubs have have their up's and down's...good periods, periods of decline and periods of rebuilding. That's the life of a football club. It all becomes relative.

@serene1915

2 жыл бұрын

We’re not a banter club anymore

@crypticalibi

2 жыл бұрын

@@j1hogz14 they celebrated winning the champions league something arsenal can’t achieve

I’d actually say Smith Rowe over Grealish based on current form this year. Think we all need to chill out about Grealish at the min.

@Hakwbebsu26

2 жыл бұрын

Still doesn’t start for Man City

@ahmed9472

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hakwbebsu26 and mahrez doesn’t start for man city yet he’s world class? it’s all down to pep and his weird mind, the better player does not always start

@Hakwbebsu26

2 жыл бұрын

@@ahmed9472 Mahrez does start though. He’s rested for the arsenal game

@milesbloomer4072

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hakwbebsu26 trust me mahrez has hardly started this season

@Hakwbebsu26

2 жыл бұрын

@@milesbloomer4072 most goals and assists for city this season

"Manchester City will never be as big a club as Arsenal" - Accomplished in 10/06/2023.

@SenanHedderman

10 күн бұрын

It wasn't but ye are closing in for 3rd

“We’ve been in the mud”… facts. I love city dude

@humkadumka

2 жыл бұрын

I expected Don Robbie to make solid arguments but no... same mantra as a 12 yr old troll. And you know the sad thing is? Deep down, he knows the only way Arsenal to become top dog in the premier league again is to become oil club, hence they will buy their success in Don Robbie's words.

1. Arsenal are bigger now but city fan base is growing everyday so “will never be bigger” is false imo 2. Considering how much pep rotates the squad I agree with Robbie saka, smith Rowe and even tomyasu could be in the mix. Zinchenko gets games for city so could tomyasu. 3. Invincibles is very impressive it’s actually very disappointing that so many people try to pretend that it isn’t just because arsenal fans harp on about it. Wenger still had 90 points that season so the whole “38 draws and relegated” point is redundant and silly tbh

@serene1915

2 жыл бұрын

Agree. Don’t care what anyone says, Saka gets into 99% of the Prem teams idc

@HarryKanee

2 жыл бұрын

Smith Rowe doesn't get in

@officerdank4644

2 жыл бұрын

86 points

@marioaiello9426

2 жыл бұрын

@@HarryKanee our top scorer and hes come off the bench in the last few games. He made his prem debut last boxing day right after we went 3 months without a win and we beat chelsea and suddenly start winning. SInce then weve gotten the second most points in the league. So yeah he deffo gets in over someone whos got 6 less prem goal contributions while playing for the best current club in the world.

@polarisnorth4875

2 жыл бұрын

Until city win more Premier leagues and fa cups than arsenal they will be regarded as smaller

Do people forget that it wasn’t just 38 games unbeaten? it was 49… literally went almost half way into the next season. The disrespect is insane.

@seancarroll5803

2 жыл бұрын

It wasn’t arsenals best team ever, probably 3rd or 4th

@k17nopasi

2 жыл бұрын

@@seancarroll5803 Probably would put Tony Adams, David Seaman, and Emmanuel Petit in that team

@melvyn.871

2 жыл бұрын

you lot got knockedout of every competition and had lucky draws after lucky draws... overrated asf.

@cad6095

2 жыл бұрын

Nathan, two champions leagues and so much disrespect.

@cad6095

2 жыл бұрын

@@melvyn.871 that team now wouldn’t even win the league, let alone go unbeaten

Man City fan spitting facts about almost everything

@d.s5508

2 жыл бұрын

He capped so hard on city not buying their success. If that is not buying success then I don’t what is

@fussysaur

2 жыл бұрын

@@d.s5508 Name a club that hasn't bought their success in at least the last 12 years tho?

@spencerbrown1581

2 жыл бұрын

@@fussysaur liverpool

@fussysaur

2 жыл бұрын

@@spencerbrown1581 didn't win a single trophy until they spent 150 million on van dijk and alisson, a world record fee for a defender AND a world record fee for a goalkeeper

@spencerbrown1581

2 жыл бұрын

@@fussysaur which we did from selling coutinho that gave us the money to buy virgil and ali city spent 2 billion in the space of 5 years

To do what City did and get 100 points is far more impressive, especially with the likes of Liverpool getting 90+ points in the season as well. When you're going out to win every game, you will inevitably lose one or two in the process. Arsenal setting up to not get beat used to work in the prem but fact of the matter is, they wouldn't have even won the league in the modern era due to not getting enough points.

@shayanmonabbati5332

2 жыл бұрын

hell nah it was a two horse race in 2019 and the league is far less competitive in terms of quality of teams today as it was in 2004. Back when United, Arsenal, Liverpool were all top class in Europe. Centurion has been repeated before in other leagues but NEVER an invincible season just shows how much harder it is to achieve

@chalesbergca3754

2 жыл бұрын

The quality of the top 3 has gotten worse yes but the overall quality of the Premier League is greatly improved. Arguably, the majority of teams have at least a couple of star players that could play for a big six side, something that definitely wasn't the case back then.

@chalesbergca3754

2 жыл бұрын

I'd also argue back when Arsenal were competing for the title, it was only really them and United. Now you have City, Chelsea, Liverpool all genuine contenders from the start.

@blackmage567

2 жыл бұрын

They got 90 points which is very good for the time. And times matter cause there wasnt the same disparity between the top teams. Its reasonable to prefer centurions, but dismissing the invincibles is mental. That team won 2 leagues in 4 years and was 2nd in the other 2. In terms of individual player quality Man United was ahead of everyone in that time.

@nemsavadia4034

Жыл бұрын

@@shayanmonabbati5332 bro many teams have been invincibles in other leagues stop lying?

Don't you ever refer to Don Robbie as "ARSENAL FAN." He eclipses your entire channel. Put some respect on that name.

@quazimoydothehedgehog6219

2 жыл бұрын

Ok fanboy

@tristanfeinauer

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@apec335

2 жыл бұрын

@@quazimoydothehedgehog6219 🧂

@apec335

2 жыл бұрын

Factual

@DudeThatDrums

2 жыл бұрын

@@carter3369 What's that make you then?

i'm an arsenal fan but i think as football fans we have to stop with the "city bought trophies thing" because if the president id willing to spend that's good. if we continue in that logic so real madrid bought their trophies also... so yeah that's my point of view

@strzebowiska

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree. No fan protests when his club buys a great player for a large sum. However, there should be stricter limits on the amount spent on players. Otherwise, the sport becomes a farce.

@RafaelSantos-di5yw

2 жыл бұрын

These days almost every league title was bought!! It's very rare you get a story like the class of 1992, La Masia graduates, Leicester underdogs

@eatsleeppk

2 жыл бұрын

Juventus/Bayern spend the most and 9/10 times they win the league in recent years

@ripswish8064

2 жыл бұрын

Real Madrid built a big fanbase and they sre global like united but city is a small club relied on oil money not revenue not fanbase not merchandise and not deals

@strzebowiska

2 жыл бұрын

@@ripswish8064 Some 15 yrs ago no English club had a global fanbase. All this madness started with the advancement of technology and the commercialization of clubs. ManCity has embarked on a path that has been cleared by other clubs. We will see where they will go in 10 years. However, between us, the number of shirts sold in China does not prove the club's class.

i hate the fact that any time someone starts talking about man city it’s about the fact that they’re not a bigger club. that means nothing. it’s not a museum. it’s sport. your either winning and making history or you’re losing and becoming history. not the same thing

@mannyy3182

2 жыл бұрын

Trust me man🤣🤣

@jamesritchie3562

2 жыл бұрын

"making history" you contradicted yourself.

@kvngafrica

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesritchie3562 nope. cause meanwhile while united fans talk about all they’ve done, they aren’t doing shit now. only thing you can bring up is our past, can’t talk about what’s going on now.

@jamesritchie3562

2 жыл бұрын

@@kvngafrica The size of a club is based on the history and what's been achieved. It does mean something. You said it doesn't. And then you said, your now making history, well what does that matter? If the size of your club doesn't matter. Makes no sense.

@kvngafrica

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesritchie3562 no that’s not what i said. i said that the only argument as to what is happening in city right now is “we have history,” when that pertains to nothing in the conversation. who cares what you used to do. it’s not about “we’ve had our team for longer, we’ve been in the prem longer, you were in the championship when we were winning.” okay, what are you doing now?

If it wasn't for City, Chelsea would've had an invincible season as well, Chelsea only lost 1 game in 2004/05 season, it was a 1-0 defeat to...... Manchester City at The City of Manchester stadium.

@StopLookingAtMyAcc

2 жыл бұрын

Nicolas Anelka, What a guy.

@trentrowan3635

2 жыл бұрын

City also prevented 2019 Liverpool from an invincible season, would’ve won the league and finished with 98 or 100 points

@yma7gaming357

Жыл бұрын

@@trentrowan3635 Liverpool and Manchester United prevented Man City in their Centurion season, we would've ended with 102-106 if we could've just not lost in both of those games

From an Arsenal fan we both can agree that the only thing mising for both clubs is the champions league trophy. We just cant digest why both clubs in their prime just didnt & dont have the ability to win it. Mind blowing 🔴⚪️

@Stev4e897

2 жыл бұрын

Because they don't have leaders such as Gerrard Lampard or Ferdinand

@Noah.a.w.d

2 жыл бұрын

@@Stev4e897 Tony Adams?

@G4MBIT

2 жыл бұрын

@@Stev4e897 Kompany

@jamiewallace3546

2 жыл бұрын

@@Stev4e897 ur chatting out your arse

@hulk8384

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

Emile Smith-Rowe doesn’t even start for Arsenal how does this man have the audacity to say he’d start for Man City 😭

@jollof4life562

2 жыл бұрын

he would though

@sihledludla9134

2 жыл бұрын

@@jollof4life562 nah. Start ahead of who?? Sterling? Foden, Grealish? At the moment in time even Grealish does not get it in

@ariahashemi7937

2 жыл бұрын

@@sihledludla9134 Grealish isn’t the number one left wing option at city anyway, it’s Foden. Smith Rowe doesn’t get in over foden so end of debate

@sihledludla9134

2 жыл бұрын

@@ariahashemi7937 true

@YourFavoriteGinger17

2 жыл бұрын

@@ariahashemi7937 it’s Sterling. Foden’s been playing CF more as of right now

ive been a city fan my whole life and i consider myself passionate but compitant, grealish has lacked skill but he hasnt played much and like robbie said, emille has been better this season which is just factual, same with saka they both have perfomed well.

The Invincibles were great, but there are definitely several holes you can punch in their accomplishments. For one, look at the quality of the top 10 in 2003/2004 compared to the last 5 or 6 years. Chelsea and United finished 2nd and 3rd that season and neither cracked 80 points. Charlton, Bolton and Fulham all finished top 10, whereas in the previous season they finished 12th-18th. Another argument is that Arsenal dropped points in 12 games, that's basically a third of the gameweeks in which they failed to win. The Invincibles had a 68% win percentage. The Centurions and the 98 point title defending side meanwhile not only won 84% of their games, but broke nearly all the attacking records playing at a time when the top 10 is better quality than it was in the early 2000s. And yes, money is a big reason why their are more heavy hitters in the last 6 to 7 years than before.

@bigsteve8941

2 жыл бұрын

any team can recreate the centurions, just get injected billions. no one can recreate what arsene wenger did in 03/04

@Adam-ui4ef

2 жыл бұрын

Compare the players. Henry shits on Aguero. Vieria rapes all of City midfielder mega signings. Campbell is better than Kompany.

@brunofernandez2906

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigsteve8941 Anyone can repeat 100 points.Mate you need some help😂

The grealish obsession from opposition fans is hilarious 😂 Jack's doing just fine, he's finding his place in a new system, I think you're going to see a mahrez like progression with him

@AM-lj9vl

2 жыл бұрын

Yet the fact remains a 21 year old is playing much better

@joshuaguevara1309

2 жыл бұрын

Mahrez looks better now but he’s output is still pretty similar to when he first came Jacks output is nonexistent

@fodennextmessi834

2 жыл бұрын

@@AM-lj9vl he’s playing better then messi so messi Kane

@stanleye9721

2 жыл бұрын

The disrespect on Grealish is just ridiculous. This always happens when an English player joins Man City - the country turns on him. Same thing with Sterling. We all know that Grealish just needs time to understand Pep's system, which usually takes about a year for all players (Gundogan, Sane, Benardo, Mahrez, Rodri, Cancelo). But Jack Grealish will be moonwalking with his big calves to his first EPL winners medal, meanwhile ESR may never get that no matter how well he performs at Arsenal

@Injectz

2 жыл бұрын

Pep is running grealish, why sign grealish and coach his strengths out of him? He's wasted at city.... And will probsbly score 20 tapins next season.... City never needed grealish and I hope he wakes up and leaves that tourist club soon.

Absolute love that passionate speech from Big Steve 💙

city CAN be a bigger club, and i enphasise can because history is made in the present and if city keep doing them for the next however long that eventually go from recent history to former glory, this team is quite new and as long as it keeps growing it can eventually surpase these big teams.

This was so good. Love the passion of both of you in the last two questions. That made this video. Thank you both

City have spent an incredible amount of money and wouldn't be anywhere near where they are now without it. But i refuse to believe that if every club in the premiership was given that amount of money to spend over the period city have spent it for example, not many would reach the heights they have. Everton are a good example of why spending loads of money means does nothing if its not done correctly. United have spent plenty as well, and whilst they've still competed and europe and won a couple of trophies under mourinho, they are no where near to city. City have an incredible sructure to their club, great youth system with proven gems like foden, and have built legends in toure, silva, aguero and kompany. People can say "you bought it all" and yeh, too right they did. they've invested the money brilliantly, play the best football and win the biggest trophies. Had guardiola not bottled it in european games they would've won the UCL by now, which would've left no one to question his legacy, no that it should be considering how good they are. they were always going to have to spend money to lift them out of mid table, let alone even more to get them to the top of it. One other thing is that they've never fallen away from competing at the top. Its happened to united since sir alex, to chelsea when they've sacked countless managers and liverpool for a long period of mediocrity. Arsenal are the best example though, poorly run ever since they moved to the emirates, money may not have been in their control at all times, especially under wenger, but city really could be their template. A powerhouse in english football that wants to play possesion and show why its called the beautiful game. theyve done well this season and its great to see young players lke saka and smith rowe performing so well, thats what arsenal should be.

@crimsoncityzen5282

2 жыл бұрын

@@piston707 just wait till United fans see this “Lmao, ur talking shit Man City oil plastic club I want a penalty for that bullshit”

@piston707

2 жыл бұрын

@@crimsoncityzen5282 cry more i wanna hear more tears😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@RyanLewis70

2 жыл бұрын

👏👏

@eaglemma1020

2 жыл бұрын

Hictor u just said a whole lot of nothing 😂😂😂

@crimsoncityzen5282

2 жыл бұрын

@Honest Pionel Pepsi Fan! man united be like Ok here’s the plan Spend more than city Dive Wail for penalties Lose a lot And complain at them about spending

Man City bigger than Arsenal? 🤣🤣. Good joke!

@DaveyTheFloater

2 жыл бұрын

good joke that is true

@Life_On_Bags

2 жыл бұрын

@@DaveyTheFloater behave

@jagadeshs1570

2 жыл бұрын

@@DaveyTheFloater looks like you just started watching football. No point to agree or disagree with you.

@VlogsWithBen

2 жыл бұрын

@@DaveyTheFloater Well it's true??

@4wrds597

2 жыл бұрын

Arsenal are a bigger team than Man City. Man City is better at the moment due to the money

the final speech WOW . nearly moved me to tears! amazing! there was so much passion that he was uninterrupted, looked at with admiration and was in total agreement in silence !

There's a lot of similarities with these 2 teams. Not just the players like he mentioned buying many Arsenal players Anelka, Seaman, KoloToure, Adebayor, StuartTaylor, Vieira, Nasri, Clichy, Sagna etc... and also Lee Dixon who supported ManCity growing up but played many years at Arsenal etc... But both have not won the champions league and have a really bad CL record with few semi-final appearances and only 1 final each. Also look at Arsenal's 5 PL seasons 1994/95 to 1998/99 (1) 94/95: 12th (out of 22, so finished above 10 teams). (2) 95/96: 5th (3) 96/97: 3rd (ManUtd won) (4) 97/98: 1st (Won their first PL title by half a point, doing the double over ManUtd was imperative). (5) 98/99: 2nd with 78pts (ManUtd got their trophy back). Arsenal also won 1 FAcup in this 5 year period, ManUtd won 3 out of 5 PL titles. ManCity 5 PL seasons from 2008/09 to 2012/13 (1) 2008/09: 10th (Out of 20, so finished above 10 teams). (2) 2009/10: 5th (3) 2010/11: 3rd (ManUtd won) (4) 2011/12: 1st (Won their first PL title by half a point, doing the double over ManUtd was imperative). (5) 2012/13: 2nd with 78pts (ManUtd got their trophy back). ManCity also won 1 FAcup in this 5 year period, ManUtd won 3 out of 5 PL titles. In the next 7 seasons for Arsenal (1) 99/00 2nd (In CL lost to Barca) (2) 00/01 2nd (In CL lost 1-0 in Munich to Bayern in group stage but didn't lose at home to them, played at the StadioOlympico and also got knocked out by Spanish team who played in the final that year). (3) 01/02 1st (4) 02/03 2nd (78 pts) (5) 03/04 1st (unprecedented PL season with no losses, Champions league quarter finalists) (6) 04/05 2nd (won FAcup) (7) 05/06 4th In the next 7 seasons for ManCity (1) 13/14 1st (In CL lost to Barca) (2) 14/15 2nd (In CL lost 1-0 in Munich to Bayern in group stage but didn't lose at home to them, played at the Stadio Olympico and also got knocked out by Spanish team who played in the final that year). (3) 15/16 4th (4) 16/17 3rd (78pts) (5) 17/18 1st (unprecedented PL season with 100points, Champions league quarter finalists) (6) 18/19 1st (Won FAcup) (7) 19/20 2nd Overall PL positions equal to exact same average. By the way incase any of you are confused as to why I say won by 'half a point'. It means you either won on GD or you won by 1 point but with worse GD than eventual 2nd, so in both cases the team finishing 2nd would've finished 1st if they scored just 1 more point than they did, wouldn't have been level they would've been above, so you only really won by half a point. Like in away goal rule 2 leg ties if you draw 0-0 away 1st leg and you're in the middle of the 2nd leg winning 1-0 you only have half a goal lead really as you'll be eliminated if it finishes 1-1 it won't be a tie.

Just seen the Wenger documentary and Ferguson said the invincibles stands above all else including his 13 titles

@Dave_ja_vu

2 жыл бұрын

Modesty. He lost less games the year he won the treble across all competitions than the Invincibles did.

@YeTism

2 жыл бұрын

Ferguson just being humble and respectful. He’s not gonna come out and say “my 99 treble side pisses all over him aye”

@nish7203

2 жыл бұрын

Ferguson also said Ji Sung Park marking Messi would’ve won him the champions league. Doesn’t mean everything he says is correct.

@Dave_ja_vu

2 жыл бұрын

@@nish7203 Park one of the most underrated players in that era, ask Pirlo what his man marking skills were like

@Dave_ja_vu

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jay-wm2im he said its his biggest regret not putting Park on him

I'm a United fan and I actually disagree with the idea that City bought their trophies. They won the financial lottery yes but there was still never any guarantees. Their transfers up until Grealish had not been marquee in the truest sense of the word. They were mostly required and well suited. They've also built the foundation and academy and instilled the idea of success into the club for generations potentially. None of these things were guaranteed initially by having a rich owner. Edit: People win the lottery every week and we know from history how that tends to go.

@anonymousinternetaddict

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly mate, you need the right people and the right plan or all the money will go down the drain. It's why Anzhi Makhachkala couldn't take over Russia and be good in Europe despite being able to get Eto'o and Roberto Carlos. They're now in the lower divisions in Russia

@markoliver7312

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t do drugs kids

@kurtsudheim825

2 жыл бұрын

Agree with your reasoning, but not the result. When they asked it I still say yes, because without the money they wouldn't be too of the log, but it's obviously not a guarantee, you still need hard work, good people working there etc, but it's the money that allowed that. & They've still don't more than chelsea with their money in only a little over half the time, in some ways copying arsenal & man u & others by building/ upgrading the training facilities, the stadium, & the surrounding area etc, what have chelsea fine with their money other than buy players & build a fancy lounge for Romans thieving friends to sit around after the game

@mannyy3182

2 жыл бұрын

@EKLAVYA PRATHABHA VARMA what are yu on abt not having a better team still win more than everyone else🤣🤣

@jmacmcfc4662

2 жыл бұрын

Respect matey

This aged well 🤣🤣🤣

@kesku12

Жыл бұрын

like milk

literally just saw this guy on live tv in saudi arabia watching manchester city play the club world cup dedicated fan.

“You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.” That’s a what happened to Arsène Wenger. He was a great manager but he should have know when to get out of the game at least move on before it caught up to him.

@torqueRxF

2 жыл бұрын

Well said!

Smith Rowe has been far better than Grealish this season

@serene1915

2 жыл бұрын

SAy it louder pls

@benhaney9629

2 жыл бұрын

You’ve already lost the real argument if your arguing that ONE player could MAYBE get in City’s rotation. Lol. Key word, rotation. Grealish wouldn’t start himself if Pep picked his best possible team.

@zarxy1152

2 жыл бұрын

@@benhaney9629 not maybe, he would

@winnersclub6836

2 жыл бұрын

Not forgetting Foden

@LuE87

2 жыл бұрын

​@@benhaney9629 City spent £100m on Grealish, Smith-Rowe would have to cost them £125m thats the argument. CIty will be pathetic enough to spend over £100m on a rotation player again thats for sure. Does anyone at Cuty know anything about football or just buy the player the press talk about most. City in no different class than the Chinese clubs

You can go invincible and get relegated, but you can't have 100 points and not win the league

People who say Grealish haven’t been good this season literally don’t watch the games, see the stats, and want to make an opinion lol he’s been playing really well just in a different side and pep is asking him to play in a different manner

Rodri, Cancelo, Sane… are just a few players who struggled in their first season give Grealish time

@philipsammon6336

2 жыл бұрын

Bernardo Silva as well

@a.y.1122

2 жыл бұрын

Mahrez

@nbu692

Жыл бұрын

Rodri didn’t really struggle cancelo just didn’t play much and sane I’ll agree wi ya

@joehawkes1514

Жыл бұрын

@@nbu692 why do you think cancelo didn’t play much… because he struggled

@nbu692

Жыл бұрын

@@joehawkes1514 fair enough but from what I saw of him when he played he was good

This is whats needed man, i dont even care about football like that but its nice seeing fans from different clubs having genuine discussions about thieir teams and stuff

Robbie is chatting out of his arse most of the times. Love you big Steve you absolute legend. Representing all the proper City fans around the globe💙💙🥺

@17:44 He put his heart and soul into that argument. That was solid.

17:48-19:40. Made me emotional there, great speech.

This season... ESR is better than Grealish. Overall? Grealish is next level. However one of thems 21 and the other is 26, so take that into account please

@bainsyhd752

2 жыл бұрын

@Azari he ain’t been want

@puskasisagod3727

2 жыл бұрын

‘Next level’ is a stretch. We’ll see how he does next season but for 100 million he hasn’t lived up to even half of it so far.

@Hakwbebsu26

2 жыл бұрын

Still doesn’t start for Man City

@noble7461

2 жыл бұрын

Better overall, yes. Next level…nahh.

@forevergooner4400

2 жыл бұрын

Grealish is next level 😂😂. He's a good player not great.

I'm an Arsenal fan but I think the centurions had better team in terms of squad but I think the first 11 for the invinsibles was the best and most balanced first 11 in the Prem's history (1992 onwards)

Good video, differing points of view which was always gonna be the case but interesting to hear from both sides

Should've been worded Smith-Rowe is currently "in better form" than Grealish. A lot of LW/AMs who aren't as talented as Jack are in better form currently.

@HarryKanee

2 жыл бұрын

Smith Rowe is overated I'd rather have grealish he's not better than mount and foden

@apjbrw

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah either way it was pointless bringing up Grealish as he's not a starter for us anyway. ESR would have to get over his inspiration KDB for that 10 spot.

@ankushvp1994

2 жыл бұрын

Robbie did say "this season". It's even in the start of the video. But clickbait titles gets views so....welp.

@azza4433

2 жыл бұрын

@@HarryKanee how u sayin esr is over rated you fool🤣🤣🤣🤣ur overrated you bambling dribbling muppet

@serene1915

2 жыл бұрын

I’m trusting ESR to bag goals

Ramsdale OVER Ederson .. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

@sinless4088

2 жыл бұрын

Not an arsenal fan, but purely this season I'd back Ramsdale.

@stryk3r360

2 жыл бұрын

i love ramsdale but give him a year before you say hes better than ederson surely

@mixedmitchell9178

2 жыл бұрын

Ramsdale is better

@rashidkhalid3970

2 жыл бұрын

You can't just rate a keeper who has only performed well for few months and has yet to experience playing in Europe let alone champions league against a keeper who has done it for year's at a higher level

@frconvey

2 жыл бұрын

Ederson been letting a few through his hands this season

Centurions is more impressive than Invincible’s. Both achievements are incredible don’t get me wrong, but 100 points is next level

@kurtsudheim825

2 жыл бұрын

No I disagree, the mentality to not be beat is insane, it's a bigger achievement in my book, but I feel the city side is better than that team was in the pitch & in a h2h, I'd favour them

@itsmejackyg7981

2 жыл бұрын

@@kurtsudheim825 fair response. I do think avoiding defeat is impressive, but the points difference is huge. Fair point though mate

@matthewchampion8214

2 жыл бұрын

@@kurtsudheim825 People always talk about the mentality to not be beat, but what about the mentality to win game after game consecutively? The longest winning streak the Invincibles managed in the league was 9. Man City won 18 straight league games that season, they won 14 straight the year after, they won 13 straight last season and already have 11 this season. Arsenal's run of 9 straight wins is extremely ordinary in comparison and has to be taken into consideration. Pep's City simply steamroll through seasons without dropping any points for months.

@SalehTranslates

2 жыл бұрын

@@kurtsudheim825 The mentality of an ambitious team is to get most points, not draw 13

There’s a reason why they went invincible and no one else has it’s the same reason they DONT have a ucl and the other top clubs do except city. When you get to March/April if your winning the league you prioritise the champions league and other comps and the ucl knockouts and rest players. Which allows for slip ups. Arsenal didn’t and it’s the same reason they won nothing else that season. That simple really.

City are going to be at the top for the next 30+ years, after that they WILL be a bigger club then Arsenal, Robbie doesn't seem to understand that history can be made.

@jonathanmurrin5827

2 жыл бұрын

Possibly. Will be a big moment when Pep goes...

@5thdawg917

2 жыл бұрын

Robbie is delusional. His only seen Arsenal win 6 League titles in his lifetime. That's the same amount as Man City.

@mukisagodfrey857

2 жыл бұрын

Things might change if pep goes

@amantesfaye1674

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanmurrin5827 what he made that team would still remain tho tbh

@amantesfaye1674

2 жыл бұрын

@@5thdawg917 exactly there’s something wrong with him

Centurions 100 point is run of the mill according to Robbie..a record never achieved before in history. These teams have two amazing records to celebrate... invincibles and centurions.

"Not enough to put Ramsdale in net" I'm crying😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

“Man City will never be as big a club as Arsenal” I disagree and here’s why. We are saying about never. If we judged it based on now then everyone would say Arsenal based on history and what they won etc. What people forget is what Man City are doing now will be seen as history in 30+ years. Then you look back in 50 years and would say it’s roughly even or maybe Man City are bigger based on the history in 2070. So think about the bigger picture and the future

@Ben-mv9jt

2 жыл бұрын

The issue is city will always be seen as a club who bought their success. Arsenal created it with innovative tactics and changed the way football was played in England

@ManuelMaceira_14

2 жыл бұрын

City can be bigger than Arsenal but NEVER will be bigger than Manchester United or Liverpool

@Ben-mv9jt

2 жыл бұрын

@@ManuelMaceira_14 lmao 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@sib1930

Жыл бұрын

​@@Ben-mv9jt That isn't true. The football Arsenal played was literally the way Liverpool played in the late 80s. Ur talking nonsense mate

@Ben-mv9jt

Жыл бұрын

@@sib1930 Are you saying the Wenger passing game was copying Liverpool? Give it up lmao.

Everyone in the comments arguing over ESR & Grealish when the question was about if anyone gets in Citys starting XI. I think its fair to say Grealish isnt in the Starting XI if Pep plays his first team. Basically arguing if ESR gets on Citys bench :D

@timothydzorkpey669

2 жыл бұрын

Facts

@thelatenightfootballshow6918

2 жыл бұрын

Factos

@darthvadar2915

2 жыл бұрын

Given the players they have, making their bench is very respectable.

@JamesHussain82

2 жыл бұрын

Moved from arsenals bench to cities bench.

@darthvadar2915

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesHussain82 I guess you’re right. But he has been in the starting line up for more than he has been on the bench. He revived our season last season. He’s not a bench warmer at arsenal

“City have no history” we won the FA cup before Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool + United and won a european trophy before Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal. We obviously dont have a history as big as United/Liverpool etc but to say we have NO history is just a blatant lie.

@YeTism

2 жыл бұрын

Nottingham Forest and Aston Villa are more historic than Citeh

@stuartmitchell2123

2 жыл бұрын

City have no history

@olliecurliss214

2 жыл бұрын

City have no history

@joybo5

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed City is a big club

@pena1197

2 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha you shitty fans think your club is anywhere near as big as Arsenal? You dont even have a europa league to your name 😭😭 You have less than half of our league titles, were the dominant team in england for a far longer period than shitty ever have been, we have the MOST fa cups in england, are ranked 2nd for all time points in england history (city not even in the top 6 lmao). Dont ever compare arsenal to your small club please, its disrespectful, our badge alone is bigger than your entire institution

This is awesome please more of these types of videos.

Every time I think about the end of Wenger’s tenure at Arsenal I always think about the Quote from the Dark Knight, “you either die the hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain”.

Nice to see 2 fans that are honest & aren't fully deluded to just make an argument

@FlagpiesTwenty3

2 жыл бұрын

robbie is one of the most deluded people in the world 😂

I hate city but the city fan was the only one speaking with facts and not being to biased towards his side.

@AA-yo6yg

2 жыл бұрын

That’s just not true

@RichBurrell

2 жыл бұрын

Spot on

My younger brother came up to me saw Robbie and was like “is that Lacazette” 🤣💀

@hulk8384

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

Well said mate. Cheers from Man City fans in Indonesia!

After the first Statement already you can't take the city fan serious 💀

As an arsenal fan it's beautiful to watch this city fan speak about his journey as a city fan. From division two to Bernabeu. What a story. We all wish we had oil money.

@TheBrass18

2 жыл бұрын

You talk as of arsenal is broke lil club, but in actual fact, it’s one of the richest clubs in thr world. Your American owner is one of the richest man in the world. Blame him for not spending the money. While, city’s owners spend on getting good players.

@user-nw2io4ui1n

2 жыл бұрын

“we all wish we had oil money” now stop acting like your club is poor 😭 y’all have spent a lot of money too lmao, stop with this narrative against city

@fuzzman9298

2 жыл бұрын

arsenal where buying and pay some of the highest fees and wages for years

Real fans, its so go too watch. Smart and respect each other. Positive vibes.

Why did Robbie not mention Aubameyang as Man City lack a real no.9 even with Jesus even including Aubameyangs poor form and losing the arsenal cap I would still argue that he would make the Man City team

@unreleasedbangersuk

2 жыл бұрын

To be honest I would probably have to argee we lack attacking depth and it could start to affect the team soon if injury’s start to uccor we need to make an signing better than Aubameyang but in this debate I would agree

as a mancity fan i totally agree with rob, smith rowe has been a better player than grealish this season

@ajayjaggernauth8500

2 жыл бұрын

Grealish doesn’t start

@SanKosar2005

2 жыл бұрын

@@ajayjaggernauth8500 coz he can’t get into the starting 11 😂

@austinlarrimore6542

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe but you can’t tell me grealish isn’t a better player than smith rowe and that you would rather have grealish than him

He's actually touching my heart with that speech at the end and I'm a Liverpool fan. And yeah they're both right about that and he brings up some good arguments, but Man city still bought their success.

@joelmcgregor3217

2 жыл бұрын

i get where you’re coming from but what about united? they’ve had bucket loads of money for years and don’t get anything for it. Sir Alex was the best manager ever and brought out the best in players but he had unlimited amount of money for success obviously they’re going to win trophies

@timothybruns2775

2 жыл бұрын

@@joelmcgregor3217 don't think you really know what you're talking about, even though I hate the Mancunts and Fergie when Fergie was in charge he always wanted to promote youth. Yeah he had som blockbuster moves in Rio Ferdinand or Juan Sebastian Veron, but he also made more stars than any other coach in PL history. He made John O'Shea a CL winner and he led Phil Jones and Rob Smalling to be PL champions. I might hate the club and Fergie but I also respect Fergie for what he did for young guys. Who probably be loaned out or sold before proven, I respect him for giving kids the chance to fullfil their dreams.

@Johndoe-gf7eu

2 жыл бұрын

@Joel McGregor kzread.info/dash/bejne/h6qH16evgMe9XaQ.html Stop believing lies from rival fans who hate united. United topped the spending list 3 times in 26 years and won 13 titles. Different strokes mate. United dont need to spend big thats the difference

@Johndoe-gf7eu

2 жыл бұрын

@Joel McGregor ‘unlimited amount of money’ 😂😂delusional, where do you get your facts? Rival fans twitters? 😂😂😂😂fergie had hardly any money and. Literally topped the spending list 3 times in 26 years, and won the treble with academy players. GOAT things

@joelmcgregor3217

2 жыл бұрын

@@timothybruns2775 phil jones was supposed to be the next big thing as he joined united? man united were going to get shit without fergie as well so idk what you’re on about if he was supposed to be the next ferdinand

The hate for City’s success and greatness and how they have changed the style and play of English football is becoming quite clear and evident lol

@hulk8384

2 жыл бұрын

Facts lol

@bux4332

2 жыл бұрын

because they bought it. what they have done would be a massive achievement if they didn’t spend ridiculous amounts

@ruiiziinhoo

2 жыл бұрын

@@bux4332 there's teams that have spended a lot, and they are not even close to man city sucess, so I don't belive they bougth it

@bux4332

2 жыл бұрын

@@ruiiziinhoo they havent spent nearly as much though. Also man city werent anything without their money these other teams were like man utd, therefore they bought their success

@Yung_Mango

2 жыл бұрын

@@bux4332 You can't say if you gave any English club the amount of money city got in 2008 they would be guaranteed were city are now. Loads of clubs wouldve completely fucked it with wrong signings, spending all at once or whatever the problem would be. Yes city won the lottery but they was smart with the winnings and created an unstoppable force over the years. It could've gone another way and people don't realise this.

10:48 the off camera laugh is brilliant. It’s so true though not to diminish the invincibles, what a team. But the highest ever points total amongst the other records broken was special.

I find big club talk to be so irrelevant. I am an Arsenal fan and agree with Steve on this issue. I would rather win trophies.

@imbekhit9286

2 жыл бұрын

I think alot of us agree but Arsenal are a bigger club

@serene1915

2 жыл бұрын

Arsenal regardless are a bigger club with history

@vanillaoverchocolate5440

2 жыл бұрын

@@serene1915 Well duh. But we want trophies. Man city could become a bigger club than us in 10yrs tbf, history comes with time so this big club better history rubbish is dumb, that won't be relevant in the next ten years if we continue going trophyless and city keep winning trophies.

@benjamintrnt7329

2 жыл бұрын

@@serene1915 history FC. How many premier league titles you won in the past 5 years?

@nofool9621

2 жыл бұрын

It's a question of who's the bigger club. But in terms of trophy recently, it's obviously City. But in the grand scheme of things, Arsenal are much bigger.

Robbie talking sense, City bought everything, doesn't feel the same as when the success is built from the ground up.

@k.a.n.e8636

2 жыл бұрын

Arsenal had money from the start , they are one of the richest clubs in the world you donut

@pancaker9328

2 жыл бұрын

City Chelsea PSG to name a few other clubs where success isnt bulit from the ground up and from money

@iliketoloveman

2 жыл бұрын

@@k.a.n.e8636 they had money but not that much. nowhere near as much as city who have basically just rebuilt a squad with their fortune.

@benhaney9629

2 жыл бұрын

So? That’s how it is... Watch American sports if you want a salary cap and parity. You watch European football... Give to the inevitable. Who wins nowadays without buying it? Even Leicesters win is half untruths, misfacts, and myths... Even they won after a rich owner invested. And they are a once in a generation story.

@iliketoloveman

2 жыл бұрын

@@benhaney9629 na not really, I think money can ruin sports (remember the proposed super league?) and I don't think it's true success is always bought. Barcelona's best ever team was mostly products of La Masia, Bayern Munich don't spend ott, two of the most successful European teams of recent times.

Beautiful sentiment regarding life as a city fan from Big Steve…and I’m a United fan. Reminds you of the essence of football fan hood

Two gud passionate lads about there teams great vid

Jack grealish is a flop. Smith rowe has been better. Coming from a spurs fan Jack grealish

@vt5071

2 жыл бұрын

he’s not a flop stop being reactionary

@Mattskywalk

2 жыл бұрын

@@vt5071 stop arguing with fax

@vt5071

2 жыл бұрын

@Dantralius agreed, i dont think grealish’s position is on the left. He should play in the midfield

@Kizdo69

2 жыл бұрын

He’s not a flop, he’s just not a stand-out player like he was at Villa. He used to be surrounded by players who were below his level and now he is surrounded by players who are on his level or above it, so he doesn’t stand out at all. If he’s helping city win games then he isn’t really a flop but I guess people were expecting him to become the new messi so it seems like he underperformed

@CashMNey

2 жыл бұрын

@Dantralius ofc you would say that if he wasn’t English you’ll be ripping into him but to be fair it doesn’t matter if he is flop he plays for man city where you take a sick leave you will not be missed and still win a medal

I'm neither an arsenal fan nor a city fan but I think Smith Rowe has really proved that he has it to become a great footballer, when it comes to dribbling along with running no one comes close to Smith Rowe. Atm Grealish has been used extremely wide by Pep and hence he can't cut in and contribute much but their comparison is wrong as Grealish should start to be in his prime and Rowe has been the senior league for a couple of years

@vanillaoverchocolate5440

2 жыл бұрын

Arsenal fan here. Smith Rowe isn't really a dribbler, that's more of Saka's thing but he's ability to pick up the ball and run with it and find the back of the net so consistently is what really makes him stand out for us. Gave us goals when were struggling for them. He's been far better than Grealish this season.

@darthvadar2915

2 жыл бұрын

@@vanillaoverchocolate5440 you’re wrong. You don’t know how to watch football, probably still really young. He’s a fantastic dribbler of the football. You don’t need to tricks to dribble, you only have to beat your man, and he’s good at that

@vanillaoverchocolate5440

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-io8cm4dk1f well okay then

@vanillaoverchocolate5440

2 жыл бұрын

@@darthvadar2915 I don't mind being wrong about this, he is an Arsenal player so that's better for us. I haven't noticed it but that's just my take.

@ironheade22

2 жыл бұрын

Neither would start in City's strongest team anyway

Winning the most games (City’s 100 points) is better than drawing more than 10 games. Great point by Steve,draw 38 games and get relegated it’s not good.the league is also a lot harder now then before

@cddb5408

Жыл бұрын

Yeah Arsenal actually drew so many that they realistically needed to do the double over the team who finished 2nd despite being "invincible" and 2nd place finishing with 7 defeats (5 had they not lost vs Arsenal) because if they had only drawn those games (both finished 2-1 to Arsenal but it was 1-1 at Highbury & Arsenal were losing the other game) would've made it a much closer end and actually they'd have more pressure on the games they drew towards the end (5 draws in last 9 games) they would've needed to have a different approach and if they knew they had to win they could've lost games and actually even lost the title so despite it being an "invincible" season they didn't win by as much as you would've expected. Another thing is they didn't only draw 12 games. 26 games out of 38 they were either only 1 or 2 goals away from losing. So just 12 games they won by 2 or more goals.

this aged well