ARMS is Broken
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ARMS has a lot of mechanics that give an advantage to certain characters or weapons, how do these influence the overall balance of the game?
This video was inspired by Heeew's Smash is broken video series. Check them out on his channel! / @heeew
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Lmao arms is broken sure but thats why I love it. Taking advantage of the broken shit is fun, tower helix is great 😈
@SNG_ARMS
11 ай бұрын
Same here, the wacky shit adds to my experience
@Creepo_J
20 күн бұрын
Springtron whatever his name is was toxic online lmao I used ninjara with brrchuk and roaster
I’m sorry to hear your arms are broken. Hope you feel better soon!
@SNG_ARMS
Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Jacobs.h123
22 күн бұрын
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As someone who stopped playing ARMS years ago, hearing that Actress Aura is, in fact, just as broken as it felt when fighting it healed my soul a little bit.
Funny how coyle is so powerful that they barely had to change her to make a boss version
People who wanted Twintelle in Smash didn't play ARMS. They searched for ARMS art.
@CJdoesntlikehandles
Ай бұрын
nah i did want the passive in smash; wouldve been really different compared to everything smash currently has (and thats what i wanted), although there is a chance it would just be a counter like witch time there are other characters who i wouldve liked too for the same reason (if not more); im still a little disappointed its the one of the ones i find least interesting (it was probably going to be regardless if im being completely fair)
@bretginn1419
Ай бұрын
Agreed. But hell, I'm the guy who really wanted Helix, Mechanica, or Barq and Byte, so who am I to judge?
@kachosuffer7
27 күн бұрын
I just wanted Springtron or Dr. Coyle...
@lancesmith8298
24 күн бұрын
@@CJdoesntlikehandlesYeahhh, looking at this now, as an outsider, with way more fighting game experience than when I first saw ARMS, getting free Witch Time for jumping sounds untranslatable to Smash, and I have absolutely no idea how it was ever greenlit for ARMS. Even Skullgirls, another off-beat fighter with an even more stupid power level, at least makes you work for your free combo extension slowdown, and it’s on Valentine, who besides also having an unfathomable amount of art, is also probably the third most honest character in the game
@superiorgamedude
24 күн бұрын
People who wanted Min Min DID play ARMS.
Part of what I love about ARMS is that boiling it down to, essentially, two normals, two EX normals, a super and a grab shifts a lot of focus away from micro-level execution and toward mixups. It's a very easy game to learn, with a truly incredible amount of depth in the one part of fightan I love the most: the mindgames.
I love how max brass and Dr. Coyle have their OWN EXHIBIT. Its so busted 😂. I swear nintendo wanted the power levels to be canon in arms.
@glacierwolf2155
Ай бұрын
The benefits of being boss characters.
@spaghettiwarrior1573
8 күн бұрын
@@glacierwolf2155somewhat reminds me of how all of the 4 boss characters in SF2 were High Tier or top tier when they became playable
You're Dr. Coyle section reminded me of how much I love how insane she is. The voice actor was clearly having the time of her life.
I don’t know why this game failed, it’s so fun
@El_Gremlin8187
Ай бұрын
It didn’t It sold 3 mill copies
@kliveran
Ай бұрын
It was just abandoned like splayoon 1
@Bobthedandorimaster
Ай бұрын
Agreed
@OctaHeart
Ай бұрын
Biggest issue that killed a large part of it imo is the hellish setup required for tournaments, forcing tournament organizers to have an absurd amount of copies of Arms 100% completed, meaning every single possible arm unlocked for every single character unlocked for every single copy.
@Muuony
Ай бұрын
@@OctaHeartDoesnt Smash have the same problem tho?
Tbh its been so long since arms released that I forget that its from this console generation
@TheChilaxicle
Ай бұрын
Really doesn't feel like the Switch came out 7 years ago for sure
@juanrodriguez9971
28 күн бұрын
At this point it feels like it belongs to the previous gen because it was released when the Wii U was still coughing before reaching the coffin even more considering the switch 2 (hopefully) has been confirmed to share info next year
As someone who played tf out of ARMS a long time ago this was very nostalgic, excellent video really cool to see the game get content
I was recommended your channel due to my video where I ranked the ARMS Fighters. Good on you for keeping ARMS going even after all this time. This game definitely deserved better!
@SNG_ARMS
Ай бұрын
Oh my god, I remember seeing your video way back in 2021! I plan to continue with this ARMS hype cuz im always holding out hope for a sequel even if it never happens 🫡🫡🫡
@greenscorpion64
Ай бұрын
@@SNG_ARMS Awesome! I hope you enjoyed the video! Loving your stuff too! I'll be catching your videos every now and then.
Genuinely surprised that this game never got more love. Arms was an amazing title.
triblast is so broken i love and hate it. I never thought that bubb and the other one would have fast retraction
what i'm taking away from a lot of this video is that the devs really thought the electric element was too good on it's own and had to kneecap every arm with it
@SNG_ARMS
24 күн бұрын
Pretty much yeah, outside of sparky, electric was only given to slow gimmicky ARMS so it ended up being undertuned. If you mod the game to give electric to something like skully which is the fastest arm, electric becomes the best in the game
Seeing that gameplay at the end from Spring Mans PoV vs Coyle gave me some real bad flashbacks. 😭
seeing this randomly get recommended reminded me of how big of a shame i feel like it is that i (and seemingly a lot of other people out there) just never really vibed with the gameplay of arms ,,, i always absolutely loved the character designs and stuff enough that min min getting added to smash made me p excited, i just never liked actually *playing* the game all that much ,,, that aside, great video! i never thought much at all about what this game's competitive scene would be like since i stopped playing it so soon after it launched, so seeing a look at what playing this game seriously actually looks like was fun hopefully they'll give it a sequel someday
I remember playing ARMS as an NSO demo and then forgetting about it as time passed. I'm very glad that there's still a scene for it, though, it's such a shame Nintendo abandoned it so quickly
Never played arms, unironically this vid makes me want to play it
8:45 nade, my beloved
we really need a sequel with more content for the general audiences to care about this fun little game
I never got to try ARMS but one thing i know for sure and it's that the OST slaps like very few games do for me
Really wish this game had clicked for me. Music was great, character design was phenomenal, and I loved the silly world lore. But between needing to unlock *and* upgrade ARMS for every single fighter, having to put up with cpus in arcade mode that *definitely* read your inputs and reacted frame 1, and turtling being the online multiplayer playstyle that more often than not won interactions (I might have the wrong term here, but point is extremely defensive play seemed to be king early on)... I dropped it within a week. Really hope ARMS is given a second chance some time in the future. Some of this higher level stuff actually looks pretty fun, I'd be more than willing to try it again.
9:48 I mained Twintelle and that move is genuinely so free it’s insane. Literally smash 4 Bayonetta’s witch time
It's kinda funny, I played this game when it was free online for Smash's promotion (pretty good game!) and even in my limited experience I still remember how weird Dr. Coyle was to play against. It got to the point where when the Max Brass section started and he was specifically called "2nd best character in the game," I knew exactly who would be first lmao. Great video!
I am looking at this game, now a wiser person about how fighting games work, and I feel like ARMS might just be end of the line for horribly built, underpatched, “just add what sounds cool” design in a fighting game, and I say that with admiration. The list of fighting games with two absurd top tiers with no real comparison to other cast mates, but also some nonsense going on in the mid tiers due to weird system mechanics, is now a list of two games; ARMS, and JoJo’s Heritage for the Future, a time gap best measured in decades. For a sense of how old, Heritage for the Future has the first puppet character in gaming. Godspeed. May your Ws be great and your ping low.
Arms would have been such a cool shonen anime
Love this, based off of your channel profile, I'm guessing any other videos probably will also focus on ARMS, but you should consider doing this again for other less popular fighting games or just competitive games in general.
I should play this game again, i got back to it every couple of months, what a fun game
As much as I loved ARMS, my biggest gripe in the game is that we couldn't use the SR/SL buttons to switch between equipped ARMS midmatch when not throwing a punch, it would have added an extra sense of depth/strategy while also preventing rounds from feeling repetitive. Would it have been a nightmare to balance? Absolutely, but ARMS is less about being balanced and more about being a good time.
Man it brings a tear to my eye (a happy one for sure) seeing people still make ARMS content. Watching this video though, I think I had NO CHANCE in that tourney I partook in, so I'm partially glad I got taken out early- Coyle or Brass mains would have chewed me the hell up. Still though, I love ARMS! It's sad that not many people give it a chance, and neither does Nintendo either, even after the headcount each party crash brought out...
Thank you for starting the video with the games intro loading screen. Like i know its extremely embarrassing for me to be impressed by a loading screen, but the way it starts with the bongos and then smash cuts to the title as the rest of the drums kick in is SO hype.
Very cool video, might give the game a play again! I find it very appropiate how the two most broken characters were not only a couple but also the Arcade Mode's final bosses, I love it when a character with a theme as menacing as Brass' or Coyle's is actually that strong.
10:34 "I can't believe people want this in Smash." Bayonetta: You are already dead. (Takes you to the damn sun) Slow down abilities in general need a nerf on how slow the opponent is. Like even a 15% movement nerf combined with already existing endlag is a lot, then these games give you 400% of it. 😵💫
My ARMS might be broken, but my heart is full. I love ARMS so much as a concept, and despite all of its bullshit, it had such incredible aesthetics and premise. I hope it lives on in the minds of others and that we get a second chance at returning to its world, characters, and mechanics. So glad to have watched this video!
Loved how informative this video was, thanks for making it, I feel like I learned a lot I didn’t know about this game and it really got me in the mood to play arms again
I'm glad i found this as i was recently getting back into playing this. Even years later i still learn something about what is easily one of my favorite nintendo game in recent years. I love ARMS (and especially Dr. Coyle)
This actually makes me want to play the game again, and I haven't played since 2018, good job
I'm in love, more arms content would be great to see.
Really enjoyed the vid. Now thinking of buying ARMS since I got the switch a month ago, looks really fun!
I haven't played ARMS in years. I do have the game card for it, but my card reader doesn't work anymore. Either I have to repair it or get a brand new Nintendo Switch entirely and sync the data from the old one to the new one. I did play some Party Crashes, but not all of them. I should have stayed longer to get all the Kid Cobra badges, especially the one where he looked beat up. I didn't know he had the biggest arms out of the roster. I wish Nintendo would give all the badges to us for free without having to play the Party Crash events. I remember beating Level 8 Hedlok.
I find it funny that the grand champ is the second best character, while the one who absolutely decimated him is the best character
Got this recommended to me and it was a great watch!
Man it's been a while since I played ARMS. Honestly, I should go back! It was a fun exercise game.
Looks like the algorithm has blessed this video. Good for you, dude! Seeing how dedicated you are to your craft I hope you see further success and, may we hope, for a better received and more balanced ARMS 2.
I remember a long, LONG time ago watching a video about competitive fighting games, seeing arms as one of those mentioned where the speed didn't excite commentators and spectators enough to keep the scene hyped liked Melee. What the fuck wad that dude on and why is the top level gameplay so fucking fast
@SNG_ARMS
26 күн бұрын
The metagame and strategies were not as developed back then when all eyes were on this game, so for some it might've been slow. Once the game was out for a while, it started developing into something faster. It's no melee, but I feel like some people should check it out again now that it's optimized
I was looking for this kind of video for a while. tysm!!! I also want to point out that the triblast isnt the only ARM thats broken. like for example, the revolver, popper, hydra, etc, dont even stretch. The only time they do is that when the opponent grabs you. I find it unfair because the character's dont show off their stretchy arms and they are also really fast arms so if an opponent spams punches with those, i find really annoying. Again tysm for the awesome vid!!
Thanks for taking the time to analyze all the competitive intricacies this game had that I'd never paid attention to as a kid. Hoping the new Nintendo console gets an Arms sequel that takes everything they learned from this game to make for an even greater experience for another generation!
Parabola has to be one of my best weapons. It surprised me, but it's done me so many favours. You do hit with it, and it serves as a surprisingly good anti-air. It is slow, however, it's easier to hit since it's automatic and it has a massive hitbox.
@SNG_ARMS
9 ай бұрын
For me personally I like parabola for hard reads
To be honest, I always wanted Dr Coyle as the Smash character. She wouldve easily been the most unique character in the game. Imagine she had Peach float but could shield during float? And if she shields she could turn invisible like the cloaking device item in previous Smash games? That wouldve been crazy. Make the third arm only come out if you successfuly dodge a move (roll, airdodge, etc). Reward defensive play. Would've been really unique for Ultimate since its much more aggressive.
Even though I haven’t played this game in a long time, I still love it and it’s still one of my favorite switch games! It may not be insanely popular but at least we got people like Coney and Vikkikitty (i think) to represent it! Edit: Oh, and you of course! I didn’t realize you played it professionally till now cause I _just_ found your channel. My bad 😅
That thumbnail gave me PTSD. I still remember the first time i went against a stun Brass. Such a beautiful cutscene
@SNG_ARMS
2 ай бұрын
That sounds horrid, my condolences
This video was really interesting ngl I like looking at other games broken mechanic
I do love how the 'final' boss character wins by outsmarting THE GAME. By far the best representation of a character's gimmick being that they cheat or use some illegal strategy.
i cant believe a video would make me want to play arms again, a game i haven’t cared for in literal years
I used Glusher right hand on Helix because when you fire off a grab from tower mode. Glusher would bounce off the ground, creating an awkward diagonal grab tether. Idk if it still works nowadays but it was always a funny mix up. Also swatting air float spam Twintelle out of the air with the coolerangs was always a blast.
Even if the heavyweights are slow, I always loved half-blorb for making really wide grabs and high damage rushes lol
Just wait until Legs.
Sucks that the heavy ARMS like the Megawatt are high risk, low reward because I always equip Min Min with the Megawatt alongside her Dragon and Ramram.
holyy arms content?? wish yt recommended me this earlier
i shall supply algorithm fuel. ARMS 2 NINTENDO WHERE IS IT
finally someone made this
I only remember this game just for the soundtrack.
Sorry to hear man. hope your LEGS are fine.
KZread recommending a 10 months old voiceless video of a game that despite me liking is no longer relevant? I have to make a wish
I got aome crazy flashbacks with the Coyle and Max Brass. But glad to see that Kid Cobra is only broken with ARM Girth and that ARM loadout. There was alsl supposed to be an ARMS comic, wonder if that ever released
I absolutely love that the two bosses are considered the best in this game. It really makes it feel like an anime XD
Knees weak, palms are heavy.
@SNG_ARMS
Күн бұрын
ARMS are heavy
That opening song is hard forgot🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣️
W video bro
I’ll be honest with you I had no idea Max Brass was so good back when I played arms, I just loved the beefed up dude screaming at the top of his lungs with his Haymaker grab xD
@yoshifan2334
Ай бұрын
He’s an objectively better spring man, who’s already kind of a menace with the shockwaves and comeback mode. Add always active super armor on top of that and hefty sized hitboxes and you’ve got a recipe for the best character that’s not debatably a boss character like coyle
So, what is it that makes the sparkies worse than the other gloves? I found a couple tier lists a long time ago, saying they were the best in the game (and that twintelle and ribbon girl were the top 2 fighters)
7:05 this is why kid cobra was so good lmao, I had no idea and I mained him 😅
I think after watching this video I have realized something: I have been too hard on this game. I thought it was a forgotten game that only got known because of Min Min in Smash Ultimate. This video has proven me wrong. The fact that it has an actual competitive scene and a much more complex understanding to fundamentals amazes me. I’m sorry Arms fans that I didn’t give your game enough love. It deserves it after this video!
I've not seen this game in years. It was a really really fun party gane where we got together and played the game. (MinMin was my main, the dragon arm was super cool) Now I think it has a lot of potential that Nintendo kinda dropped the ball on. If they finetune this game around the same level as Splatoon 3 or Ultimate, then we would have an amazing game here.
We at least have to give arms credit for making the playable boss characters strong in the competitive scene. Unlike how other makes make them so much weaker for game balance.
"im gonna need more then just a hand"
Great video, but in a lot of sections the text goes away way too fast to read and I have to go back and pause
Honestly the amount of times this game has been discounted could (probably) be counted on one hand I’d recommend it to more people if it was at max 40 bucks.
Love seeing "blank is broken" videos. I don't like arms personally (feels very slow and too nintendo-jank-ish for me) but Respect to those who play it, and I get a good video out of those decicated to it.
15:33 it’s fun because of its shortcomings
I remember trying this game for free and it was fun! Wish I played it when it first came out
Yes, I think it was an amazing game. I put a few hundred hours into it but I kind of feel I missed a chunk of it because I was a dedicated toasters only Spring Man player and didn't use the other weapons much 😅 If there is one thing I hope to see in an ARMs 2, it would probably just be to lean more in the direction of Custom Robo which had more attack options than just the basic attack. Combat was incredibly fun in ARMs but my personal opinion is it needed more damage options during combat outside of punches as it would probably help to level the playing field a bit against the more powerful or evasive abilities.
There are two characters with the alternate boss jingle for their arcade intro. Hedlok, a character engineered to be broken and only playable in a side mode where you fight over possession of him. And Dr. Coyle.
honestly surprised misango platinum isn't talked about my personal favourite character
Boss characters having weaker playable version is LITTERALY a fighting game staple.
5:33 BLORB!
I’ve been wanting to get back into arms😂
Video titel is what i say to doctor after i did not payed my depts to mafia.
Normal springtron doesn’t get much love but he’s a cool lil guy
Nintendo is honestly the worst at continuously supporting games they’ll do a big update and abandon it like animal crossing
@SNG_ARMS
Ай бұрын
They are professionals at game abandonment 😔. They've only managed to do this update model with the splatoon series and failed with what came after, they should re-evaluate their strategies from game to game imo
Making everyone broken is a fun way to balance a game.
Man I loved ARMS when the Switch came out!
6:55 My fav kid cobra big arms how?
Triblast/nade max brass was my character of choice. Had no clue both ARMS were so broken, I just thought they were fun 😂
I used to play the shit out of this, it's really cool that there's a scene. If nothing else this video reminded me how fire of a soundtrack this game has
A lot of what turned me off from the game was just how it felt. But I’m not really writing this to have some conservative point, there need to be more games like this in the sense that it’s not playing to the same conventions people expect. Like, I see this game and immediately think of Virtual On instead of some game like Tekken or Street Fighter. I disliked how much the game tried to seemingly protect or screen players from competition in the sense of gating the player with all of these arbitrary checks. I wish the game just let me immediately play online. There’s just so much to say about how the game got in its own way, but I don’t consider living up to the expectations of typical gameplay to be one of them. As a piece of software, I think you can iterate and figure out how to make things feel sporting and enjoyable if you just get the chance to iterate. ARMS does deserve another chance. If SF6 can freaking exist then I really don’t see why there can’t be an ARMS 2.
The badge thing upsets me, why??😢
Sure hope all these things get fixed in ARMS 2.
Hopefully nintendo considers a sequel for the switch 2 even if it is just dlc with a few new characters and stages.