Ariel Helwani: Should Chris Weidman, Bruno Silva Run It Back? | The MMA Hour
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Ariel Helwani and the panel then looks back at the foul-plagued UFC Atlantic City event and all the storylines.
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Let me say it, because Ariel won't, because he is friends with Chris Weidman. Chris Weidman blatantly cheated on Saturday night, then celebrated like it was a clean win. It was shameful, but because he is "An American hero" and "Mr New York" or whatever, these people don't want to say it. He cheated.
@fourvetperrie457
2 ай бұрын
I do agree weidman knew what he was doing along with the JJ/DC & other fighters that eye poke on purpose to get an advantage. It's a shame cheaters don't get penalized.
@fredreichmendiola9255
2 ай бұрын
he also had a sketchy reaction to the anderson leg break. his mindset was like “hey it was a legit win on my end” and he didn’t feel that bad ab it. chris is a cheater. how do you UNINTENTIONALLY poke a guy in both eyes back to back. and he did it before that combo too. this needs to be turned to a DQ or else imma watch ONE FC forever
@REVOisMYname
2 ай бұрын
I’m certain it was accidental. Still the way he played it off was disappointing.
@RurouniKenshinShinta
2 ай бұрын
fr i hate how dude is tippy toin'g around it. Stop bullshitting and address the issue with honesty.
@GrandmasterHash
2 ай бұрын
@@martinaguilar1Bro shut up😂, calling out blatant cheating doesn’t make you a keyboard warrior. You’ve obviously never fought or you’d be able to tell he meant them. Several warnings and he didnt even bend his fingers at all, everytime Bruno held his eye he got ready to charge if the ref didnt step in to give his 5 mins. Eye pokes happen here and there but not 5/6 in one fight from the one fighter
Chris Weidman cheated for the entire fight with his fingers outstretched like pitch forks in Silva's face..If you watch the fight back, Silva got eye poked on 6 different occasions and took 3 punches to the back of the head..That was no win, no matter what anyone says..Every time Silva stepped in to throw a punch, he had to dodge Weidman's finger to the eye defense..It's cheating for the entire fight..Chris was winning, but that doesn't take account of the damage done by the eye pokes, or the never ending out stretched finger defense..Jon Jones used to use that defense, which is where the rule came from, take points immediately, eye pokes will disappear forever..
@conorpaterson2477
2 ай бұрын
Yeah the Chris was winning the fight argument is nonsense it’s hard to close the distance when the others guy is stretching out his lead hand with the fingers out makes you hesitate
@peybak
2 ай бұрын
He had his hand out like he was going to parry Silva's right hand but whenever he came forward, Weidman would swipe at his face. Really dirty.
@nielssrensen4967
2 ай бұрын
He just fought the same way that Jon Jones always has.. 😁
@flixcean
2 ай бұрын
cry about it
@regularstan6212
2 ай бұрын
Nonsense I blamed the gloves. They have been an issue from the start.
Chris Weidman's speech after "victory" over Silva was more DISGRACEFUL than Will Smith's Oscar award acceptance after slapped Chris Rock on the stage.
Punches to the back of the head and multiple eye pokes including an eye poke COMBO... Chris Weidmans back
@Pure_Dog
2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
Weidman celebrated when Anderson break his leg. Then moussasi he tried taken a free win but the knees where legal when he knew both hands wasn't touching . Now this . Wiedman was never respectful nor represted mma in a good way
@ER1CxF
2 ай бұрын
exactly why bad things happen to him lol
@CALIFORNIAsGAMER
2 ай бұрын
He does things the American way unethical just to get the win nobody can do anything about it but I'm more the Mexican or Asian culture if you slip we let you get back up we want this win to be real 💪
Problem with the "he was winning the 1st two rounds" argument is that he eye poked TWICE in the same way during them. Should have been a pt deduction for the 2nd one, which greatly changes the dynamics of the 3rd round.
@jducrot
2 ай бұрын
For sure, also weidman has been ko'd in the 3rd round a bunch of times
Ariel always has shitty takes.
@drshadowsfilms6059
2 ай бұрын
He won't criticize fighters who are his friends. Chris Weidman, Michael Bisping, Conor McGregor etc.
@FightSportTalk
2 ай бұрын
@@drshadowsfilms6059 spot on, the guy has always been a biased as hell fanboy.
Weidmans fingers were out from his lead hand from the very first minute of the fight, right until the double eyepoke at the end. Shame on the ref for not noticing, not warning, and ultimately not deducting any points.
@topthesteppa2989
2 ай бұрын
The ref did notice and did warn? Which makes it a lot worse but…
@anthonycukier1807
2 ай бұрын
@topthesteppa2989 The ref only warned after the first poke. He's supposed to warn fighters that stick their fingers out gaging distance, aka fishing for pokes before they happen.
@thomaskent3136
2 ай бұрын
Gotta love New Jersey
@luckyspurs
2 ай бұрын
It's like he was trying to fit an entire Jon Jones and Daniel Cormier career's worth of eye pokes into one fight.
@hbeezey
2 ай бұрын
warned him several times warnings mean nothing
IT IS A EASY FIX... WHY IS THIS HARD TO SEE... 1 FOUL=WARNING 2 FOUL=POINT 3 FOUL=DQ TELL EVERYONE... ENOUGH ALREADY...
@hbeezey
2 ай бұрын
Using 'an' properly and forming an actual sentence is an easy fix too.
@ZackBackpackingAroundTheWorld
2 ай бұрын
And he had 6 eye pokes (and 3 clear as day back of the head shots in round 1). So really he should’ve had the same treatment that guy who bit the other guy a week ago. He should’ve been forced to forfeit his purse to Bruno Silva with how dirty he was in that fight.
@reximusprime31
2 ай бұрын
@@hbeezey BOOOOO!
@94robirob
2 ай бұрын
1. Foul POINT 2. Foul DQ
It's like Weidman doesn't think he can win a fight any more without cheating.
"That's still my eye poking boy"
Chris is a dirty fighter. His last interview on this show talking about his new "herbal supplements" is suspect as well. I think it's obvious Chris is taking full advantage of the new testing protocols.
@liamnissanS2K
2 ай бұрын
Ashwaganda
the only correct answer: Silva should have gotten the DQ win last Saturday. How many eyepokes can you get away with lol
It doesn’t matter if weidman intentionally eye poked Silva or not. He was warned in the locker room before the fight, he was warned again during the fight multiple times, and then it was identified via video replay that he clearly did it again, not only with one hand, but two hands before Silva dropped to the floor. I love weidman and I am certain that he didn’t intentionally eye poke him again, but he also never did anything to stop putting his hand out in a position that he was told several times not to do…and that’s just careless on his part. And it’s not all weidmans fault, it’s also the referee’s fault for not taking a point and addressing weidman’s inability to fight responsibly. If someone knees a grounded opponent 3 times, or eye pokes 3 times, or grabs the fence 3 times, etc. etc, it doesn’t matter if it was intentional or not, points need to be deducted. You should never be considered a winner after fighting in such an irresponsible manner, and much less take credit for winning. Weidman is (was) a great fighter, but he is losing fans by taking credit and celebrating that win, especially after watching the replay. Fans would respect him more if he showed a little more class than that. I still love Weidman for all he did in MMA, but not a classy way to go out if this is going to be his last fight. Love your show Ariel 🙌🏼
@LiterallyRiggtarded
2 ай бұрын
The fact that the fight wasn't even a no contest is crazy. I dont even think they deducted a point lmao
@ParadoxxTheFuckingChad
2 ай бұрын
It is the most INTENTIONAL eye pokes ive seen in 5 years of watching every fight that happens
So any fighter who's winning on the score cards can break the rules i.e kick a downed opponent or eye poke or take a nut shot just to end the match and win by points. Basically Usman should have eye poked Leon in their second fight so that he can win.
@ParadoxxTheFuckingChad
2 ай бұрын
they can also eye poke 4 times in order to make it easier to win those rounds
1 point taken for 4 eyepokes and a double poke to finish it of? You guys are a joke, if this was the other way around all 3 of you would be outraged and saying silva should be disqualified
Weidman should have been DQ'd no questions asked, and If I'm not mistaken, Chris was finished by Moose, Romero, and Jacare in the third round in fights he was winning.
Referees discretion for eye pokes are very inconsistent. Some refs will take point(s) off after 2 eye pokes.... Weidman poked Silva four times prior to the TKO eyepokes.... no points taken out. I've seen Herb take points off after two eyepokes.
If Weidman would have lost after being eyepoked 4 times, I wonder how u guys would have felt about the result. Would it have been fair game then?......
The ref was horrible
@luckyspurs
2 ай бұрын
The fact the referee took a point earlier in the night for 2 groin shots, but then didn't take a point off Weidman for 4 eye pokes, made the favouritism too obvious.
Not unless you want the poor guy to end up like Bisping!
Ariel you have clear personal interests that keep you from having true journalistic integrity. As a former ammy fighter and longtime MMA fan, I’ve always felt this way.
Winning the first 2 rounds dose not mean you can't get finished in the 3rd or be on the bad end of a 10-8, the fight was ended by blatant illegal actions. I'm not arguing there was intent there, but that fight should 100% be a NC and they should rematch.
When Ariel said “social media Guru”….I knew at that moment that the real Guru was digging tunnels for free in Ariel’s head
I can’t run it back with no cheater. I’m not getting someone paid to rip me off again
Imagine if it was Makhachev in Weidman's place instead. They'd be cooking him for 45 minutes
@ParadoxxTheFuckingChad
2 ай бұрын
or any non american fighter
Not a dirty fighter? Lol
Yeah I here all you’re reasons ab why he was celebrating but the thing is, he knew he poked him at least once there and he had already poked him 3 times before… The ref SUCKED bc even after the first 3 pokes Weidman had his fingers pointing directly out a Majority of the fight which is why it’s really tough to sympathize after celebrating like that
He wasn’t fighting a great fight. He is a dirty fighter who regardless of his history was extending his fingers. Nobody cares about his winning 2 rounds. He was definitely doing it on purpose. Bruno should decline running it back and keep his eyes safe 👉👀👈
Either run it back or change outcome to no contest 🤷🏾
@luckyspurs
2 ай бұрын
Why should Bruno Silva have to accept 15 more eyepokes in a rematch. Just make it a no contest.
5:08 for Chris Weidman poke talk
The referee was obviously biased in favor of Weidman and that’s the real injustice here.
Shame on Chris Weidman for blatantly cheating and shame on Ariel for being an absolute coward and defending Chris.
‘Mysterious Frank’ needs his own segment/podcast/show.
My boiiii!!😂 the eye poke ko king weeedman
"Was he looking for a way out? I don't know" -Uriah Hall
Best ref stoppage, Edson barboza vs Justin gaethje
Weidman's last two eye pokes were from something Moe of the 3 Stooges would do.
But W was extending his fingers!!!!!! Even after the ref told him not to do it!!!! You DON'T fight like that.
New York “ultimately” Ric
Helwani - "15 minutes is nothing" and compares it to boxing rounds. You have been covering the sport for 20+ years and you still don't grasp how cardio-intensive grappling is?
After 3 eye pokes it’s a no contest !! Ref should have reviewed it. eye poke = no co contest , no eye poke = tko
Blanchfields sticking reminds me of a young Ali 😂😂😂
Weidman is a disgrace to the sport. After his celebration against Anderson Silva I wanted to throw up. Then on Saturday night he knew he didn't Ko Bruno, but he knows what to do to celebrate like he did get the win. Wrestlers know how to compete, but that was shameful. He wrapped the American flag around him and etc. The dude is a bad guy, and a cheater
From UBC ....to UEPC
I watched roadhouse and enjoyed it for the most part because it was free. I never would have paid money to see it
The way he celebrated like he'd just became triple champ rubbed ppl the wrong way he did it when silva broke his leg too it should be a no contest
Fight ending sequence had 0 attempt to close fist.. Hands were so open, he was literally not trying to punch..
23:53 AH with the alley-oop to MF…unfortunately MF wasn’t reading from the same hymn sheet.
Absolutely not! Weidman came back from a gruesome leg injury and got a clean TKO win with a slick peacemaker ✌️ eye gouge fatality, one of many throughout the fight. Then he goes full heel during his post fight interview telling Silva you can’t feel pain when I eye doink you, even if it was SIX times. 🙄In all seriousness there’s quite a few rules in MMA that need to be updated/changed. One of them are fouls. They need to make it universal, the first foul (any foul) you get a warning. Any second foul no matter what it is should be a point deduction. This an easy problem to fix, like most but anytime you’re dealing with the government, which is what athletic commissions are, it takes way longer than it should. Best case scenario for Weidman it was a no contest. It very well could have been a DQ
cashed out with weidman and nelson to win parlay at +809. I ain't mad 😂
It's crazy that Chris's Wiedman snapped his leg way worse than McGregor did yet has came back and had multiple fights, yet alky drug lord McGregor can't even get a date! Wild
The fact that you don’t have Kyle the monster on here further proves Jouaquins point. Fellow Canadian that you won’t even give the spotlight. Monster is looking like Volk rn
Shut up Eric. Chris Weidman defintely WAS trying to cheat. He fought with his fingers pointing to Bruno's eyes since the beginning. Go watch it again. He was desperate not to lose again and would do ANYTHING to "win".
23:53 SHOTS FIRED @ Jon Jones!
The fact that Weidman landed two previous eye pokes, and the third eye poke involved BOTH of chris's hands and BOTH of brunos eyes....right before the finishing sequence. That is a MINIMUM of a no-contest JK VICTIM BLAME BRUNO LIKE A CHAD
Miller said it best about eye pokes
I don't care how anyone looks at Weidman was gifted that dirty win in front of his home crowd. He poked Bruno multiple times before the finish and was given multiple warnings in between and never got a point taken which was absurd. Then he jams Bruno in the eye a 3rd time and follows it up with shots. Bruno immediately got up holding his eye protesting and it was obvious he wasnt hurt from any of Weidman's shots, it was strictly the eye poke. Then they go to the replay and there is CLEAR evidence Weidman poked him and they some how still rule it as a clean TKO. In what world do you award a fighter a TKO victory on a foul with replay evidence. The fight 100% should have been overturned to a no contest.
Chris had his fingers straight out even after he did it the first time and he kept them that way. Weidman got thumbed in the eye but it was a punch and the thumb just happened to get in his eye. Weidman will get flatlined in his next fight anyway so he should enjoy his cheap win.
Based on what everybody, but the judge, saw, the fight should be declared as a no contest
@ParadoxxTheFuckingChad
2 ай бұрын
Nope DQ
Weidman needs to hang it up! He has some great moments in his ufc career but he tried to throw a sloppy spinning kick against like rockhold and hasn't been the same since.
@NRC613
2 ай бұрын
Name me those moment's cause i dont remb any
@ericedmunds9488
2 ай бұрын
@@NRC613 he had a match against Luke rockhold years ago and threw a sloppy spinning kick that wasn't even close to landing. Luke rockhold capitalized on that moment and finished him with brutal ground and pound. Definitely a career changing defeat. Weidman was losing anyway but started to pick up steam until he threw the kick. If he never threw the kick he could have won.
It’s Baba O’Riley
So by their logic if a fighter is winning it’s okay to call the fight after the second round if he pokes his opponent in the eye enough to end the fight. That’s rewarding cheating, these guys are insufferable sometimes when talking about their friends in the industry
Tom's not the HW champ, Ariel. No matter how much your bias says he is. Your numbers are dropping like Schaub's. How ironic!
@champhugeballs1562
2 ай бұрын
In that case, neither is Jon Jones
Wierdman felt his fingers in his eyes and the amount of times proves he was meaning to do it Chris always gasses in the 3rd and gets kod he should be fined and the result overturned
No Wideman should just retire
Easy win for Kyle Nelson
Let’s be real Chris cheated the whole fight and did 2 illegal moves that immediately lead to the finish. Chris did not apologize, he told his opponent to suck up the eye pokes? Cmon. Should be a DQ.
Warnings are stupid. Rules will remain undefined and nothing will ever change if "the warning" stays in the rule book. In tennis there is a "fault" and you only get a certain amount when you break SPECIFIC rules. You can get a warning for talking in MMA. How many warnings before you get a point deducted for dancing? Now is all the dancing and talking the same as an accidental eye poke?
I dont blame Chris the gloves are clearly designed BAD. we have BETTER TECH, but UFC doesnt want to buy patent
@ashervirin9698
2 ай бұрын
How can you not blame chris? Every fighter has the same gloves and most fighters don't eyepoke their opponent once let alone 4 times in one fight and DOUBLE eyepoke them in one combination. The gloves do curve a little so he's actually not even telling the truth. Look up that video of gilbert burns trying the new ufc 30 gloves (which have been and gone now so they're probably still using the same tech).
There isnt even a close 2nd in MMA media! You guys are the best
Chris is juicing too how does he look in better shape than when he was in his prime real dirty fighter
That was disgusting.
Chris weidman is a veteran and not ignorant. I dont think he poked on purpose but there is no chance that he legitimately thought he connected and dropped silva. But he is right in saying you keep fighting til ref steps in. I could see an argument that silva was trying to catch a break and shouldn't have dropped hoping for the ref to step in.
@NRC613
2 ай бұрын
Bro got poke more then once then double poke the pain i think anyone drops the pain becomes worst . One bad then a 1 two combo . When your eye already irritated I'd drop also
@ParadoxxTheFuckingChad
2 ай бұрын
bro just cause he’s “a veteran” doesn’t mean he’s not cheating scum, those were the most intentional eye pokes ive ever seen its like you didn’t watch the fight
Chris Is With A Boxer Regis They Talked To Me. John Barnette Johnny Gallindo Only 2 Guys Scare Me On Live Cam. Ariel Get Out Boxing. Stop Putting Fake News Boxing.
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Hypothetically, Do you think Serena and Venus Williams in their physical/athletic primes could have success playing high school football? Why or why not?
@olivereckman9961
2 ай бұрын
No
@fourvetperrie457
2 ай бұрын
Yes they are beasts
@NRC613
2 ай бұрын
Vs men like American football or ⚽️ cause I'd say no for both
@whosehousefootball5772
2 ай бұрын
@@fourvetperrie457 no they couldn’t. I play high school football and Serena or Venus could not hang with us. I would lay them out and many others would too.
@fourvetperrie457
2 ай бұрын
@@whosehousefootball5772 I might very been trolling when I wrote that
Wow would like to see ariels energy when jon is in front of him or via zoom even lmao. What a weasle
Nobody cares about these two fighting for them to run it back.. give chris another fresh opponent.. bruno back to the apex.
Run it back ! !! lol Nope It should be overturned to be DQ win for Silva , And that ***** eye poker should be sacked from the UFC. Why would anyone want that ***** in the octagon again aside from his shameless few supporters who were cheering for him after that disgraceful win.
Erin Blanchfield striking was horrible she couldn't get to the clinch and she has no head movement! she was exposed and has a lot of work if she ever wants to be a champion. Otherwise, she could be another Mackenzie Dern!
@zbell7003
2 ай бұрын
Yea I think if she fought like she did on Saturday against Valentina or Grasso she’s getting finished
@luckyspurs
2 ай бұрын
She genuinely looked like Maycee Barber or Mackenzie Dern.
No
Silva quit. Weidman is the winner. Period.
Why did the UFC not pull this BS win from Weidman? Double eye poke finish . why wouldn't every MMA fighter do the same...for a cheap win ?
Ariel is #1 Tom Aspinall meat rider lol
The world of to much. I want to watch all this stuff but just not enough time in the day. To many pod cast to much good content not enough hours.
Ummm common....🙄
The new bald look is much better on your guy ariel. But he's gotta shave the beard down. Way to stragglie looking. Not every bald guy needs a long beard.
Super biased
Chris is peak filth
Dang everyone hates ariel these views & comments
Jones poked everyone eyes out for years, and the UFC considers him the best ever. Daniel Cormier learned from Jones and did the same to Stipe even to the point where Stipe got eye surgery. We have seen this too many times from these so called great fighter to start giving Weidman now a hard time. NO I don't like it either, wish it did not happen but, but it is what it is.
@ParadoxxTheFuckingChad
2 ай бұрын
none of them ever got a finish/win PURELY based on an eye poke combo which was the 5th bad eye poke of the barely 13 minute fight which has also permanently blinded silva partially
@ParadoxxTheFuckingChad
2 ай бұрын
also when they get warned they usually stop outstretching fingers
GC has cancer???
This is why i stopped watching Ariel. SOOOO biased its like the CNN/FOX of mma yters. Do yourself a favor...if you are a hardcore watch the smaller mma channels, they actually have integrity
STOP WITH WWE
Oh com on, Roadhouse is absolute garbage, Conor simply cant act and Jakes acting was appalling by his standards in this movie, and as for the story... LOL
@ashervirin9698
2 ай бұрын
Jake's acting was pretty dry and really was nothing special especially considering HE is supposed to be the "veteran actor" when compared to conor. But conor's role was pretty fun in the movie, like come on, give it a break. I think most MMA fans enjoyed his acting in the movie and I'd say he did a good job
Stop these wwe actors comin in studio. Nobody cares
Roadhouse is overrated
both washed
CHRIST IS KING
@itmghtgtdrk
2 ай бұрын
Amen