FudgeMuppet: Argonians are daedric Bethesda: good idea, i'll be taking that

@katiefincher2433

3 жыл бұрын

I know that a lot of people think this sort of thing about Bethesda, but the fact is their Elder Scrolls lore is more or less "finished" internally at this point, with only a few true enigmas left. Argonian lore is "finished"... and they are not daedric-- nor are they aedric-- any more than sithis (sith-hist/sithis-ishist) omg) itself is aedric or daedric. It's neither, predating both.

@forgetaboutit1354

3 жыл бұрын

@@katiefincher2433 yeah...right...it's not like they regularly changed their lore throughout the years...right ? lmao

@user-lf6sx3fh7h

3 жыл бұрын

@@katiefincher2433 a dragon break wants to know your location... oh nvm, you didnt actually exist in the first place

@katiefincher2433

3 жыл бұрын

@@forgetaboutit1354 I mean, I used to work there so..... I would know. I'm not saying the lore was always pretty much done, I'm saying that for the first four ages plus the pre-eras, and most certainly the cosmology itself, it is more or less finished. Fifth era, I have no idea, I haven't been an employee of Bethesda (or Zenimax) for five years.

@katiefincher2433

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-lf6sx3fh7h Hi russian person who wouldn't know.

As Mehrunes Dagon learned the hard way. When you invade the Argonians, they invade back.

@etinarcadiaego7424

3 жыл бұрын

In Soviet Tamriel, Argonians invade you!

@Never_heart

3 жыл бұрын

Dagon: Hey that's not fair that's my trick The Hist: hehe Argonians go brrrr

@timyuusis3372

3 жыл бұрын

Unless you're just nabbing a few slaves!

@noonenowhere877

3 жыл бұрын

Dunmer also learned this the hard way.

@nelothmasterwizardofhouset7266

3 жыл бұрын

@@etinarcadiaego7424 lol, that is funny and true as well.

Me: starts playing argonian playthrough Fudgemuppet next day: Argonians daedric?

@spikymarshmallow7611

3 жыл бұрын

I not long started an Argonian Slave mixed with Berserker elements, and Fudgemuppet uploads about Argonians. Coincidence? I think not!

The fact that the Daedra fled from Blackmarsh and closed their side of the portal says a lot about the Argonians.

@charmolettafranquestafiestayam

3 жыл бұрын

Well man can you imagine the pure horror of cracked out lizardmen swarming you and tearing your friends limb from limb some crawling like creepy creatures some hulking raging beasts. Also unless I'm remembering wrong, it was the argonians who closed the portal. From the daedra side. *gulp* *gets chased through portal by the beasts who then slam the door shut behind us* OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooo-

@willsword8100

3 жыл бұрын

Given that neither the Daedra nor Tiber Septim could properly conquer blackmarsh.

@Exile_Sky

3 жыл бұрын

@@charmolettafranquestafiestayam I thought it was the Daedra that did it themselves, but I could be misremembering. *It's been a long time*. Also, lmao.

@thomasrosendahl2783

3 жыл бұрын

Somehow Scott missed that, when he placed them last among the best lore races.

@kennethhuffman3754

3 жыл бұрын

@@Exile_Sky yes Dagon closed the portals in blackmarsh AFTER the argonians started to invade his realm of oblivion In a very successful attempt to close his portal. Basically the argonian counter attack was so effective that Dagon didn't think blackmarsh was worth the trouble.

>Be Imperial Legionary >Get deployed to fight in Black Marsh >Tisn’t Me starts playing and the Hist trees start speaking Jel

@alexanderstilianov

3 жыл бұрын

>Thank Stendarr you're not a Dark Elf and shout "PELINAL DID NOTHING WRONG!" >Hear slow clapping from the nearby bushes

Daedra invade Argonia. Argonians: *I'm not locked in here with you, YOU'RE LOCKED IN HERE WITH ME!*

@DiogenesDworkinson

2 жыл бұрын

Invasion request received, invitation accepted, mobilizing troops... One cannot resist the Hist!

So basically Dagon's forces were fucked from the second they stepped into Black Marsh. They were trying to invade another Daedric Lord's territory at that point.

@tanrata8658

3 жыл бұрын

More like the devil bumbled into Cthulu's lair.

@Ian-nl9yd

3 жыл бұрын

i mean, we see deadra invade other deadric realms in the elder scrolls: battlespire. and i think it happens in eso too?, though i havent played eso

@tanrata8658

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ian-nl9yd Aedra and Daedra are common among man and mer and even the cat folk. Argonians and the Hist on the other hand depending on your sources are particularly alien compared to the rest of the continent.

@BigPanda096

3 жыл бұрын

The Hist would probably dunk a Daedric Prince tbh. Lorewise they are pretty damn op, especially when the Argonians are near them, they are basically unbeatable. An army that knows everything the other forces are doing simultaneously while being empowered beyond normal mortal means. That's hard to beat even with godly power.

@23Raind

3 жыл бұрын

@@BigPanda096 hard for an army of lesser daedra...sure. Hard for a deadric lord? Not remotely. What are the hist gonna do against an immaterial cosmic entity that can just chuck at moon a them (aka sheogorath)? How are the argonians going to save them from that?

Lusty argonian maid lowkey is a lesser daedric prince

@rifflerunderhill7006

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely worshiped more than people let on, despite all the jokes.

@bigbrohybrid

3 жыл бұрын

Naughty boys get pegged by the demon futa waifu scalie oWo coming to crunchyroll this frostfall 4E 2021

@lordwintertown8284

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigbrohybrid Damn that's been a long era 2021 thousand years lol for the fourth era.

Everyone's laughing until the trees start speaking Argonianese.

@arempy5836

3 жыл бұрын

*Jel

@Finn14029

3 жыл бұрын

?

@kirkcannon8079

3 жыл бұрын

@@arempy5836 *joke

@Emily-jy4wv

3 жыл бұрын

“Take that n’wah’s septims”

@waluigi3515

3 жыл бұрын

@@Emily-jy4wv that's the dunmer

Argonians have quite a fascinating HISTory

@dinkledankle

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, very fascinating histree.

@RealOngoGablogian

3 жыл бұрын

Get out of here 😂

@kalebb1226

3 жыл бұрын

Take my like and. GO TO YOUR ROOM!

@DragonsREpic

3 жыл бұрын

...humans suck

@fatmanyevo6235

3 жыл бұрын

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAGAHAHAHAHA

Mehrunes Dagon: Tries to invade all of Tamriel Argonians: *_Uno reverse card_*

@ShadeMeadows

3 жыл бұрын

Hist: "We got Dibs on the Realm already"

I believe the Hist are Daedric, in that they came before Nirn making them "Original Spirits", but they did not lend to its creation, hence they are "Not Ancestors". But the Argonians are just mortals that have been augmented by them. Similar to how Hercine makes Werewolves, but Werewolves are not Daedra. Or how Molag Bal made Vampires, but Vampires are not inherently Daedric in nature.

@sancturillore

3 жыл бұрын

Holy shit. That's a very good point. Werewolves and Vampires are indeed both not Daedric even though they come from Daedras. Thank you for bringing that up.

@draconian_dragons6588

3 жыл бұрын

The souls of argonians are recycled similarly to deadra or things like dark seducers and golden saints

@Im-Not-a-Dog

3 жыл бұрын

@@draconian_dragons6588 Yup. And the sould of all mortals go through the same(or at least an eerily similar) process in the Dream Sleeve.

@angkhoanguyen6114

3 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: The original homeland of the Hists which located in Oblivion was destroyed in the Ehlnofey War between Man and Mer.

@stuartjohnson5686

9 ай бұрын

According to ESO Molag Ball's intent was just to hurt Arkay but it led to creation of vampires who hate both Molab Bal and Arkay.

The hist talk a bit too much for my taste, but dang, they are just so charismatic and convincing!

@charmolettafranquestafiestayam

3 жыл бұрын

All these years to find out the hist (besides a taste on oblivion) is just a couple annoying forced character tryhards. :(

@docop8926

3 жыл бұрын

@@charmolettafranquestafiestayam what do u mean by character tryhards?

@Zen-751

3 жыл бұрын

@@docop8926 he doesn't actually know, he just said it to say it

Hist: "Kill all the dunmer." Argonian: "But it's not our way!" Hist: "DEW IT!" Argonian: "Oh, okay!"

@deondreglenn6524

3 жыл бұрын

Starwars Palpatine to ankin in ROTS

@jaeger3905

3 жыл бұрын

It was more like this High elves:"Hey do you want to help us with our invasion?" Argonians: "Nah we're good." The Hist: "Ah good, they chose to be peacef-" An-Xi'leel: *INITIATE EXTERMINATUS*

@jetnebula7915

3 жыл бұрын

" b e c a u s e w e a r e t i g h t e r t h a n b a r k o n a h i s t t r e e"

@lordbalthosadinferni4384

3 жыл бұрын

DEW IT DEW THE DEW

@jaeger3905

3 жыл бұрын

@@jetnebula7915 was that in the latest issue of the lusty argonian maid?

Argonian: *Licks Hist sap* “We require more minerals.” “We require more minerals.” “Spawn more Shadowscales.” “The Hist Cluster is under attack!” “We require more minerals.”

@lambrioza

3 жыл бұрын

Hist gives Argonian super soldier serum to invade Oblivion: EVOLUTION COMPLETE!

@jetnebula7915

3 жыл бұрын

Is this some sort of ESOnline joke that I'm too Single-Player to understand?

@Oaglor

3 жыл бұрын

@@jetnebula7915 It's a Starcraft joke.

@sleepysartorialist

3 жыл бұрын

NICE

@rifflerunderhill7006

3 жыл бұрын

Construct additional ziggurats.

There might be a connection between the early Daedric Chimer civilization and the tribal Argonians, since they both lived in Southern Morrowind where there is swamp areas like black marsh.

@tomix7712

3 жыл бұрын

The Argonians used obsidian in the old weapons. With Red Mountain being the only volcano they would have access to it seems that the Argonians had presence all the way through Morrowind before the Chimer were even there. Which is why they have also connection with the dwemer (their shields and maces have a design similar to that of dwemer architecture). When thw Chimwr first came they most likely fought the Argonians back down into Black Marsh where the Hist are.

The Hist Trees: Stop trying to compromise our national security Imperial Researchers: Aaah so scary! The Hist Trees: Stop stealing our subjects! Dunmer: Aaah why are we being attacked? The Hist Trees: No invading! counter invasion activate! Mehrunes Dagon: Aaaah! This is illegal.

@spikymarshmallow7611

3 жыл бұрын

The Hist's secret weapon is an Uno Reverse Card

The last major elder scrolls game came out almost ten years ago and you can still pump quality content out like this. Yesterday I was watching your Arizona/Utah fallout video and was amazed at the thought you guys put into it. I just love this channel

@fabricatorgeneralchadius1114

3 жыл бұрын

They are my favourite KZreadrs I love these guys

@dave1317

3 жыл бұрын

Eso is a major game? They infact use tons of pictures and lore directly from eso....

@Corrinelester74

3 жыл бұрын

Almost 8* eso is a major game

@dave1317

3 жыл бұрын

Yea and if you are a xbox player most lile 6 years

@TheBlakamon15

3 жыл бұрын

@Nero Beerus Disagree. I understand you do not like the game but you cannot disregard the game like it does not exist. Eso is a very successful game. Seven year game that is still getting new content. It has so much lore that it eclipses the lore that is in the main elder scrolls games and it builds upon the lore from all of them. Not just Skyrim, Oblivion, and Morrowind but Daggerfall and Arena. Also Redguard. To call Eso not an elder scrolls game is just pure ignorance.What makes a game a elder scrolls games is the lore and world not gameplay since all the actual main games all played differently.

Imagine facing an argonian with a machiavellian personality holding a macedonian sword working in an italian garrison for a draconian purpose.

Argonions are my favorite race tied with Orcs and Bosmer. Favorite human race is Breton.

@TheCheese1988

3 жыл бұрын

I like the Nords the most, especially the lore-accurate ones. Skyrim did them a bit dirty, in my mind. The further north you go, the more the Nords were supposed to be part of the wind, wearing less clothing, not being cold, and being fast and agile.

@Draazen

3 жыл бұрын

Kek the only reason bretons are you favorite human race is because their only half human!

@morrigankasa570

3 жыл бұрын

@@Draazen perhaps but it is mainly due to game mechanics/abilities. Nords the Warcry thing is pointless who wants their enemies to run away makes it more difficult to kill them. Imperial Voice of the Emperor is similarly pointless why try to calm enemies unless you are a Vampire needing to feed then you have Vampiric Seduction that you get at the necessary time, otherwise just slaughter them all. Redguards Adrenaline Rush is also pointless regenerating stamina. While Bretons their Dragonskin absorbs magic so is helpful to reduce damage. Also beyond abilities natural other things then Nord and Redguard have reasonable use with Cold Resistance and Poison Resistance but Magic Resistance beats Cold Resistance cause beyond just resisting cold attacks it also applies to other elemental attacks. Imperial doesn't even have a resistance of some kind. Also Bosmer beats Redguard cause not only does it have the Poison Resistance they also have Disease Resistance so that beats out Redguard though admittedly the Bosmer ability is also fairly pointless but the duel resistances makes them valid.

"Elsweyr and elswhere" is such a good line. I left a like just for that

I've heard of the stoned ape theory but the stoned lizard theory is a new one... Lol. Excellent one.

Something has shifted in Argonia, egg brother.

Last time I was this early, Indoril Nerevar was alive

@whiterunguard5749

3 жыл бұрын

I trust the day's found you well, thane.

@marcanthony3167

3 жыл бұрын

have you found my sweet roll yet???

@whiterunguard5749

3 жыл бұрын

@@marcanthony3167 yes nazeem has eaten it, so he is now spending life in the Whiterun dungeons, your welcome.

@marcanthony3167

3 жыл бұрын

justice is served!

"Merry, the tree is talking!" "Don't talk to it Pip! Don't encourage it!"

i love watching these lore videos, they’re so relaxing and enjoyable

@zackdelarosa14

3 жыл бұрын

Literally taking a nap listening to this. 👌

@Lcgx

3 жыл бұрын

@@zackdelarosa14 there too interesting for me to miss out on but i do get that same sleepy feeling 😂

Now Mehrunes Dagon is trying to invade again. Rise up my Argonian brethren, it's time to teach the big guy another lesson.

If you guys have never driven home from work while listening to these lore videos, do yourself a favor and try it. Best commute in a while

I knew I loved the Argonians for a reason! Who knew the Daedra were a playable race after all? Also new theory; the Hist roots are slowly covering all of Tamriel and are one day gonna change all of Tamriel into swamp for the Argonians to rule for them.

@ChronicNewb

Жыл бұрын

So like Florida?

@alphacraig2001

10 ай бұрын

@@ChronicNewb Magic Florida

"The roots hold us all together." Have you guys learned at all about mycelium networks? This is a Real Thing! I love the notion that the Hist is Tamriel's version of mycelium. Check it out!

I remember watching you guys during the Oblivion Let’s Play with Robyn Pierre. Long story short, I just rediscovered this channel thanks to your podcasts, and now I’m hooked. Your videos are an excellent listening material to work out to, keep up the sensational work 👍

@FudgeMuppet

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

If Argonians are Daedric, then perhaps that would explain why the Dunmer go: "Hippity hoppity, Argonians are property." After all binding Daedric creations are something commonly done.

@Wired_User

3 жыл бұрын

Nah, they’re just really racist (or at least used to be). The Dunmer think anything that isn’t an elf is just a talking animal, subhuman for lack of a better term. Other elves are below them too, but they’re at least considered people. Beast races get it the worst. Orcs of course are dumped in with the beast races, because they love to pretend Orcs aren’t elves even though the Dunmer LITERALLY came from the same conflict that created Orcs. Source: Morrowind dialogue on the Dunmer’s view of necromancy. I think from the Orc necromancer in the Balmora Mages Guild. To them, playing with animal souls isn’t necromancy, which includes all the other races because ThEy’Re NoT pEoPlE.

@gamermoment656

3 жыл бұрын

@@Wired_User The Ordinators would like to know your location

@Wired_User

3 жыл бұрын

@@gamermoment656 Ah never you mind sera, I’m a member of the Temple!

@Seth-uo4zn

3 жыл бұрын

@@Wired_User I mean, they aren't people. Dunmer literally are the master race

@Wired_User

3 жыл бұрын

@@Seth-uo4zn Nah, that’s the Altmer.

""Both in Elsweyr, and elsewhere on the continent" Oh, clever boy.

This lore should be used to make a Skyrim mod giving similar effects to Argonians when consuming Sleeping Tree Sap. Enai Saion's Wintersun Faiths of Skyrim Mod identifies the Sleeping Tree as a Hist tree.

The Hist are better rulers than most emperors. All hail our argonian overlords.

@georgemurdock7670

3 жыл бұрын

Only argonian thing that rules is the taste of an argonian egg omelette

@echos5823

3 жыл бұрын

THE EMPEROR IS AN ARGONIAN IN A SKIN SUIT!!!! -Alexius Jonius. Probably.

@nelothmasterwizardofhouset7266

3 жыл бұрын

@@georgemurdock7670 I confirm.

@arempy5836

3 жыл бұрын

@@echos5823 I'M TIRED OF THEM PUTTING CHEMICALS IN THE WATER TURNING THE FREAKING LIZARDS SMART!

We need an An-Xileel Warrior build soon

@thomasrosendahl2783

3 жыл бұрын

Argonians also have powerful nightblades and spellswords, nords, orsimers and redguards only have martial talents, so a magic combat hybrid build is out of the question.

@DensApri

3 жыл бұрын

@@thomasrosendahl2783 not true, ancient nords had mages

@ikeaman7247

3 жыл бұрын

@@thomasrosendahl2783 although it’s uncommon any of those people from those races could do magic if they wanted to. It’s not like there is anything stopping them

@charmolettafranquestafiestayam

3 жыл бұрын

@@thomasrosendahl2783 Every single race can do magic. What the fuck is Sword Singing for redguards? I would argue it's a form of magic. There are orsimer prophets/sages/healers/etc. Same with Nords. Idk what the fuck you're on about no magic lmao

@Veji69

3 жыл бұрын

@@charmolettafranquestafiestayam facts magic literally is just divine life energy pretty much in elder scrolls

Simple test. Find a Hist's name, kill it, summon it. If it works, it's a daedra.

@angrybanana5476

3 жыл бұрын

Simplicity is truly a scientist's best friend

@GeraltORivia

3 жыл бұрын

If it doesn’t, you just murdered a magic tree

@davidleroth8644

3 жыл бұрын

@@GeraltORivia murdered a magic tree for SCIENCE

@arthurjohnson7473

3 жыл бұрын

You'll have to learn how to speak Tree first, though. Good luck getting the Vietnamese to teach you.

@nelothmasterwizardofhouset7266

3 жыл бұрын

@@arthurjohnson7473 lmao

Brilliant. Great research and as usual a sublime video. Thanks for all the legendary work.

I'd love if they made an elder scrolls that ends with the kalpa cycle resetting, it would be interesting

I for one welcome our argonian overlords of tamriel with the hist at their side

Man, I've been watching this chanel for far too long now. Just saw the title and thought: "Ah, Drew uploaded a new video." I love how you always come up with theories that make much more sense (or are at least much more original) as the confirmed lore. Please keep up the good work (all three of you)!

This video was well made. Keep up the greate work!

Last time I was late, I was trapped in one of those "transportation networks" of Black Marsh.

@Joe_Potts

3 жыл бұрын

(Squishy knocking sound) "Can somebody cut me out of here?"

I love how TES lore is in depth to the point where the tes universe’s origin story isn’t just unknown but is contested between multiple myths based on race, religion, and culture. I have myself convinced either this one or the nirn being a daedric realm one are the truth theu make the most sense

I don't think anyone in-universe realizes just what kind of threat the HIST are to Nirn as we know it. Talos guard us from these alien bonzai.

@noonenowhere877

3 жыл бұрын

To be honest they only seem to lash out when they are wronged. Maybe Nirn just needs to learn to leave well enough alone.

@DixtunBabyAngel

3 жыл бұрын

Hardly, you have that backwards. The Hist were here long before anything else, so the "alien" are the races not native to Tamriel... including Nords, who are a threat themselves.

@muslimcrusader5987

3 жыл бұрын

@@DixtunBabyAngel True Nords came from Atmora

@douglaspurcell9199

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I've been saying for a while that the Argonians are gonna be making big moves soon. They've been isolated and nearly non consequential for way too long in the lore. Can you imagine how terrifying they would be on a next gen console with realistic graphics? I would shit myself if I just saw a squad of them rising out of the water in front of me lol

@thescholarlychronicler1805

3 жыл бұрын

Marcus McClain -- They're only a threat in response, so long as you leave them alone, they won't have any dreams or desires of conquest. Every time they've attacked, it has been in response to something that threatened them.

Blackmarsh is just the southern coast of Louisiana. Dont say im wrong, you know im right. I wouldnt be surprised to see a lizard man walking around in New Orleans.

What if the hist trees are just an extension of Lorkhan, meaning that the Argonians are just daedric beings made by Sithis, which is why they can be so powerful.

Is it just me or does the really big tree with the orange glowing things hanging from it kinda looks like the eldergleem tree

@true4976

3 жыл бұрын

Thats the hist tree, the purple looking one in skyrim is different cuz its like a subspecies of hist that grew on a floating city made by a character called umbra.

@justsomewitcherwithalongsw4233

3 жыл бұрын

Just a character is an understatement. Sentient Sword, Host of the current Wielder, Bane of Clavicus Vile. It holds many titles. Too bad we didn’t get to encounter it in Skyrim.

@MLPDethDealr32

3 жыл бұрын

@@justsomewitcherwithalongsw4233 THe Legacy of the Dragonborn mod adds Umbra back into the game. Its being carried by an Orc somewhere outside of Markarth. Its also a great way to pick up a full set of Ebony Armor early game.

@true4976

3 жыл бұрын

@@justsomewitcherwithalongsw4233 haha yeah but I didnt wanna overwhelm them with all the details! Just enough so they could find out more if they liked :-)

@pisscvre69

3 жыл бұрын

@TRUEthatguy thats not the Eldergleam thats the sleeping tree from the sleeping tree camp, the eldergleam has been there since before time tho so it may be similar or maybe something like that is inherent to creation daedric hist or aedric

My green Argonian is choping wood while I listen to Drew

this channel has slowly become my favorite. Skyrim lore is so cool.

Its explained in books in Daggerfall that the Atlmer when they controlled the continent created creatures that share humanoid and beastly characteristics, that's why we have centaurs, minotaurs, and the like. That would also explain Khajiit and Argonians.

@lordslashingtonsmoments6125

3 жыл бұрын

So are the altmer the guys behind the moons with khajiit and the hist trees with argonians?

@charmolettafranquestafiestayam

3 жыл бұрын

@@lordslashingtonsmoments6125 The moons is something else imo but I could see the altmer creating argonians (so long ago its mostly forgotten) and then the argonians eventually finding the Hist. Remember the hist is it's own entity. If I recall correctly they weren't always in a symbiotic relationship

@papadoug4681

3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't be surprised if A. That stuff is retconned given that it wasn't bethesda that wrote those (but that's boring). So lets have fun with it and say that B. it's Altemer Propaganda to make them out to be superior. I wouldn't put it past them. After all they are no strangers to re writing history to suite their own ends ;)

@mrfivegold

3 жыл бұрын

@@papadoug4681 Well the Atlmer did create goblins, and have been said in Morrowind to have been responsible for the creation of the Dreugh. And it has been implied that the moon cycle and hist were gifts from the gods, other than the 8, but that was retconned along with other deities created in Daggerfall and Arena.

@papadoug4681

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrfivegold I'm sure just about all the cool stuff from the first 2 games that contradict the current lore (or vice versa) can be waved away as being retconned. But that gets boring honestly. I think it can be more fun to try and find reasonable lore explanations for things not entirely being true from back then lol Though i hadn't touched all the old lore myself. Pretty cool fact about the goblins and Dreugh though. Didn't know that myself.

The comment on how the swamp changes made me imagine a TES game with random generation, randomizing the Black Marsh or areas of the black marsh per playthrough, or per load. This tool would also be able to give us endless Daedric realms or otherwise dungeons we could explore. How interesting could it be for a full RNG RPG, that continuously generates worlds as you travel as you wish, minecraft style (Not graphics, the near endless terrain generation). Obviously far more advanced than a game that came out what 15 years ago? Not a TES game unless there were some story reason for the world collapsing and reality being unmade or something and the player is like an anchor re-binding reality giving it new form and shape. A good complicated generator that doesn't just handle terrain and dynamic cities and buildings (As well as a host of pre-made assets to just place like story locations or important cities (The outskirts of which could still be generated for more expansive cities), but also generate NPCs, factions, reputation systems (Generated faction x hates generated faction y, and is allied with generated faction z, and the generator determines Conflict Points by mapping the terrain between the two factions and plotting paths of travel, and placing forts and checkpoints, and patrols). No voiced NPCs, only generic sounds, all text. Text that can be generated in addition to premade "Personalities" for important characters, and premade NPCs in general that have a ton more detail such as a collection of premade story characters, romance options, and companions, while there would also still be possible generated companions. A system for the generation of armor, clothes, and weapons would also be incredible, when generating a faction or region it'd generate a Style for that faction and base object designs around that style, pulling from a suite of assets for Materials, textures, and and shapes. And of course, you could make your own clothes or armor by pulling from the same assets in a crafting menu via Tailoring and Blacksmithing skills. If the terrain can be generated, it should be possible to likewise allow deformation, destruction, and creation. Mining, tunneling, sieging buildings. Burn down a town, a dragon attack melting stone walls and leaving ash-shadows of people that were too close. Permanent scars of conflict, player and NPC made. But also a system for fixing these things. NPCs will passively do repairs on their own except when some threshhold is met for being too damaged, and a threshhold shared by the town at large if enough structures and people were destroyed or killed, then the village, town, or city would be abandoned into a ghost town and you could find the survivors as refuges traveling elsewhere and slowly adapting to a new location, and you might even recognize an NPC from a ruined village as a body on the road or in a dungeon as they were picked off by bandits or monsters or betrayed, ect. I feel like this should be entirely possible. Skyrim is almost a decade old. As is Minecraft, though pretty sure it was out for years before that release date google gives.

@sancturillore

3 жыл бұрын

So, like Daggerfall, but with more stuff?

My new Oblivion character is a Hand-to-hand Argonian fighter named Throws-Many-Punches. While he was still in the Imperial prison he received a vision of the upcoming Oblivion crisis but he was still locked up. The vision, which was, of course, sent to all Argonians by the Hist, showed him that the majority of his marsh-brothers and marsh-sisters were returning to the homeland and becoming empowered by the sap in order to prepare for the Daedric invasion. By the time Throws-Many-Punches got out of jail, he figured he might as well stay in Cyrodiil, train with the Fighters Guild and protect the locals who had no idea what was about to befall them since he was shown that Black Marsh would emerge victorious anyway.

Lol, with Closed Captions it says “Argonians worship Syphilis.”

Very intriguing once again FM

They are my 2nd favorite race in The Elder Scrolls series. Enjoyed watching and listening to this one right here!

I love this idea of a Bethesda writer staff meeting where they get together, hammer out some of this complicated, multifaceted, shape shifting lore that can be taken in so many ways, all the while knowing that some random KZread channel will painstakingly break down every detail and completely unravel the mystery of the Elder Scrolls

Great Video Fudge

Just wanted some input from the experts, I’m replaying Skyrim SE with the Alternate Start mod, and I’m playing as a High Elf Thalmor, and I want to role play in the direction that she has just recently joined the Thalmor and got transferred to Skyrim, but then she slowly starts to realize how fucked up the Empire and the Thalmor are and I would like her to experience some in game experiences of this so she’ll change and eventually take up arms with the Stormcloaks. I’ve helped the Grey-Manes in Whiterun save their son, and I’ve joined the College of Winterhold because High Elf mages. But any in game examples anyone can give me would be appreciated! Also using most of Enai Siaions mods like Ordinator, Apocalypse, and Wintersun and she is worshipping Syrabane.

@darkdragoking2186

3 жыл бұрын

You do know that the thalmor are for the rebellion

@michaelpettersson4919

3 жыл бұрын

@@darkdragoking2186 Only as long as it is ungoing. Should they, or the imperials win and finish the war however...

I hadn’t even thought of this!

This is really really great.

Just a small nitpick: argonians don’t serve Sithis by going only to the DB, as even Veezara at the sanctuary states he was bred to serve an argonian order of assassins that died out, then and only then he went to the brotherhood.

You’d think that ads would be personalized to the video subject, but I got a Trojan ad. That is literally the opposite of this.

This was so ASMRish to me... Muchas gracias

Damn, I’ll never be able to unsee this theory. I really do have to admit, it’s an *extremely* compelling case. Just as extreme as the marshes and swamps deep in the heart of Argonia 😉🦎👾

Love the video. For years I played nothing but highelves. Last year switched to bretons. After this video I am switching to argonian.

Jaara: “Finally, I’ll hear the Hist”. Hist: “Shiiiiiiii, what up cuh?!

Hmm, wonder what Hist mead taste like?

@kck-kck879

3 жыл бұрын

Judging by what it did to you in Oblivion, you'd probably end up thinking your mug was a honeybadger

@joshuamourning6650

3 жыл бұрын

@@kck-kck879 and that the dog in the corner is a daedric gourd of doom

This is probably a shot for the moon, but i would love to see an ES game where if you start as an Argonian and pick the Shadown sign as your birth sign, you start in the Dark Brotherhood or have a unique starting point that leads you to it.

The best thing about ESO is that ES lore youtubers now have footage for all the other provinces

You are a master content creator and this was a wonderful and exciting video. Perhaps Arogonians defy definition. Neither Daedra nor “organically” Tamrielic. Perhaps they’re some kind of hybrid or evolutionary step? All I know is I love them and they look soooo good in Dragonscale armor!

In my head canon the Hist most likely figured out how to stay on Nirn while maintaining their omnipotence and omniscience by destroying their sense of self and becoming identical unidentifiable trees that rely on other creatures to exert their will. essentially Chim in reverse.

Is the lusty argonian maid a Daedric Prince? The potentials make me smile.

I always thought the Argonian Behemoths were just a nod to Super Mutant Behemoths tbh

If the Duskfall never happened and their stone masks didn't crumble, those Argonians would proceed to become the ultimate lifeform by tapping into the power of a red stone. They would become invincible! Immortal! Unkillable! Unmatched!

Imagine marching your army into the swamp, camp for the night, only to wake up surrounded by a mountain range made out of roots, with your only escape being the way you came in.

Do you offer transcriptions of your presentations?

you also missed the fact that the argonians believe that their souls are given to them by the hist which would suggest the Argonian body is just a vestige of its own as well. When they die their souls return to the Hist to be born again

I might not have seen this video yet, but is there one explaining the Hist sapling in Skyrim? I think it's somewhere in the plains surrounding Whiterun. Or is this one not a Hist?

Far into the future I see an elder scrolls game not probably buy the same moniker anymore but an elder scrolls game nonetheless and in this game it finally stretches on kirkbride's theories and we come back to Nirn after we left it for some time and it looks old and different and decrepit could be like some star fields type stuff you know kind of like how SG 1 and Stargate finds out they're actually alterans instead of humans

Another great one, Drew! And I gave the video its 666th like, so, the Daedric connection might just check out! 🤣

Argonians: Counter invades Oblivion The Deadra: “Close shut the jaws, of Argonia!”

I do believe I posted either this theory or a theory VERY similar to it on another one of your videos. :D I stated that Argonians are just the species of Nirn Daedra that have come closest to realizing exactly what they are.

@salkjdfhalsdgfkauhg

3 жыл бұрын

Not gonna lie, hoping I helped fuel this.

@charmolettafranquestafiestayam

3 жыл бұрын

He probably just stole ya shit typical prison islanders

@salkjdfhalsdgfkauhg

3 жыл бұрын

@@charmolettafranquestafiestayam To be fair, the US is no better on that whole "used to be a prison/dump pile for outcasts" thing. Not saying you're from the US, just stating historical facts.

@charmolettafranquestafiestayam

3 жыл бұрын

@@salkjdfhalsdgfkauhg rip YT didn't like my comment. :(

@salkjdfhalsdgfkauhg

3 жыл бұрын

@@charmolettafranquestafiestayam :(

The only video in my suggestions that I wanted to click on today.

everyday i hope u post videos

*Argonians walking into the Deadlands juiced out of their mind on hist "Nice place nigga"

Where does the music played in this video come from?

What is the name of the track used in this video?

So that's why Mehruns was like "wait they invaded us back? Fuck close the portal!"

How have I not seen this video?!?

Todd: write that down, write that down!

i thought the argonians were related to the dragons at first since their like mini dragon people

What game are the visuals taken from?

I think Lyg was one of the 12 worlds, and now all thats left of it is at the bottom of Nirn's oceans.

well....that would explain why when blackmarsh was subject to a daedric incursion, their response was to not just repel it but to go invade oblivion i guess

A sect of the Vigilants of Stendarr hunting argonians with this mindset would be a great side plot

Mankar Camoran: TAMRIEL AI DAEDROTH Me: wow that guy is crazy Fudgemuppet: ARGONIANS ARE DAEDRIC Me: of course, how did I not see this earlier?

Thank you

I like the implication the two part novel made, where there's like an issue of communication between hist and argonian. Like if they were 100% egg made by the hist it would be like a 1/1 mind link to the evermind

So it makes sense to me that the Hist trees are sentient daedric plants that took up housing in Nirn. Maybe they floated in like mold on the aether or something. And then they uplifted the local wildlife to create a loyal ecosystem to protect them. They're not really malicious though. They're fine with just hanging out with their Argonian peeps.