ETA PRIME the G.O.A.T for emulation reviews and and emulation tech.

@matchesmalone79

4 жыл бұрын

Def the goat at what he does!

Argon is doing a great job designing cases, Immediatly went "Oooh cool!" when I saw the thumbnail and then seeing the first case when I started watching I recalled saying the same about that too. The really do look like original professional console or PC case designs.

@turtlelore2

4 жыл бұрын

The best feature with the Argon one in my opinion is the extension board that reroutes all the IO onto one side, which really streamlines all the wires that you'll connect to it

@TheRealAlpha2

4 жыл бұрын

@@turtlelore2 yeah the improvement certainly warrants the price.

Love the intro of the robot playing video games on a rainy day.

I went with this case as well. Hands down versatile and quality product very happy.

Dude!! I love the intro animation! haha awesome! and thanks for the video! quite clearly explained, cheers!

I'm glad to see the Argon one is back in stock. Your first video caused it to sell out in short order. Hopefully, I can snag one this time.

thanks eta prime for making such nice videos about emulation and stuff . youre my go to guy (youtuber) for all of this topic :) . i forgot , would it be possible one day to make a video about a mid to high end intel nuc for light gaming and emulation while also checking for cloud gaming viability with such a pc ?

Thanks. This adds some needed information about overclocking and passive cooling. It really looks like it needs a fan

ETA most the stuff you review ill prob never buy, but hot damn do you make it interesting none the less keep it up boss man.

Awesome video, ETA.

I got one for a home NAS build, mostly for the simple shape and passive cooling. I already have an Argon One Pi4B case which has performed very well.

These were the 2 cases I looked at and chose the neo. I thought it would cool better because it appeared to be thicker aluminum. Surprised by the results. I still love the case. Works great for everyday use as a child pc.

I have this case and love it. I would love to see you test with arctic alumina.

@ETA PRIME The link you provided for the Neo and Fan board also included an 18w type c power supply. Just in case you didn't realize, you can get just the fan addon for $10 on amazon in addition to the $15 neo case for a total cost of $25 for an actively cooled neo compared to the $25 Argon one which is only passively cooled. When comparing both setups at the $25 price point the actively cooled neo has every feature of the argon one plus camera connector access, dsi interface access, and compatibility with more if not all hats that could be used on a Pi4 since the fan board adds on/off with safe shutdown and reboot capability to the Neo case as well as a raised passthru GPIO connector to clear the top of the metal housing over the USB & Ethernet ports as well as the fan itself).

That is a nice Pi case, this has given me my final decision to buy a Pi 4B :D

@harisuresh2507

3 жыл бұрын

Cool

I think the top is supposed to be removed during use. Having it on creates an air cavity which acts more like insulation. BTW, you can add a fan hat for additional active cooling.

This is the case I got, since the One can't be found on any reputable site. Paired it with the fan for overclocking. It works well enough. One design flaw that could be changed? The top piece needs to have some form of holes for ventilation and airflow. Temps reach about 75c+, but never throttle with a full O/C for me. Take the top piece off and they never break 65c.

I have 2 of these. Very well made. The fan board add on is a MUST HAVE. Particularly if you actually use your Pi4 in any way. If you try to run it with the cover on and no fan it will throttle.

@mendoxx097

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah because the stock passive forma has not that much material yo dissipate, maybe with some Thermal paste and a massive heatsink attached that doesn't interfere maybe would make the job

Very good video! Thanks for doing it!

The Neo looks like the PoE Hat would fit inside. So if you would drill some holes in the magnetic cover you would get active cooling and a need (a tidy) way to power your Pi.

Very nice case. Do like the magnet cover.

For overclocking the "Armor" block style cases are amazing. I've never been over 60c in any situation, even stress tests. Some are passive cooled and some with 2 mini fans. I have the active cooling type and the fans are inaudible. sdcard and gpio fully accessible. Some companies on Amazon that offer them: MazerPi , Geekworm, Waveshare the list goes on and on but I would advice to find the cheapest cause they're all the same. I ended up picking mine up for $4 usd. Ebay has them also. Edit: Martin Rowen does some great case temp reviews.

@k_8609

4 жыл бұрын

Yup those does have much more metal to sink the heat

Great vid, thanks! I'd be curious to see the Argon Neo w/ the RPi4 wearing a full-size HAT.

you know a case that opens up and pushes the pi out into the open air when you are using it and then retracts when you pick it up. like the gun in halo that overheats

Nice opening!!

Like that new intro

Great video!

One, then Neo. Will the next one in the anagram list be called “Eon” (taking forever to come out) or “Eno” (because it gives you relief from indigestion)?

ETA prime, I've made a Retropie build inside an old SEGA Master System case. It has a Raspberry Pi 3 B+ inside and its always cool with regular dissipators (small heatsinks), I have a cheap fan installed too but it's always off (because it's always cool). What do you think I should use for cooling if I upgrade it with Raspberry Pi 4? The SMS case is plastic, maybe it'll get too hot inside... I know Retropie is not officially out for Rpi4, but I'm planning ahead. Great channel! Thanks for your videos!

Thanks for the review. Can you see the power/SD access LED lights?

You mentioned in your review that the Neo lacked headroom for a HAT board, but not true. I'm using an expansion HAT that outputs 16 lines via screw terminal strips (TE Connectivity, 10 mm high) and it fits (barely). Provides a nice HAT solution and benefits from the thermal dissipation of that intervening metal floor between the HAT and the Pi 4. The HAT would adversely affect your worst case temp stress test, but under normal operation this a great solution for me.

Have you ever tried using the ice tower cooler on top of the Neo to see if you get high temp with over clocking? Since the case is metal on the cpu.

What about using a little thermal compound to sink the base to the lid? If you never plan to take the top off it could help. Also, how would the fan work on this? I don't see any vents at all. Useless?? Thanks for the video. Been watching this product.

@ETA Prime, how did you setup your Pi4 to auto-downclock if a certain temperature was reached?

At 2GHz in my Flirc case my Pi 4 only managed to hit 73C with the plastic lid bit on. That was with a prime number stress test so I'm wondering how you stressed yours to hit thermal throttle. My room is around 73F for reference. There may be some software optimizations done since this video so I'm not sure what exactly hurt the thermals in your tests.

Its awesome but I did drill holes in it. I put the fan in it and man this thing got hot and no where for the heat to go. After load it was running around 84c and after drilling holes in the top it dropped down to 46c

ETA Prime, can you add thermals with the magnetic cover removed?

Not sure if the host checks older posts, but I was wondering if the power and HD activity LED's can be seen through the case? I see what appears to be plastic in the area of where the indicator LED's would be located; however I'm not able to tell whether the LED's can be seen.

Also you can add a fan to the neo! Can you install a ARGON hat fan ?! I found it on amazon !, and will it be together with the aluminum middle layer ?

Good evening! Where is this case sold? I did not see it on the Aliexpress. I would like to buy one.

This case looks nice and has the good idea of keeping GPIO accessible - but it missed so many opportunities to get way better cooling without much change...

would the pijuice hat fit the pi 4 while it’s in this case? also would the top shroud still fit with it on if it does fit

Bluetooth WiFi tests please, my flirc case is fine but I have troubles as I get further away from the router, I have to use plastic cases in parts of the house that are not close.

@nialltracey2599

4 жыл бұрын

Seconded. The last metal case test uploaded had the same request, from multiple people. The fans demand wireless strength testing!!!

@frankyflowers

4 жыл бұрын

they should make a case that opens like the gun on halo that overheats and opens.

@TomasLomba

4 жыл бұрын

Niall Tracey testing has no purpose really. When you use a metal case, you are essentially putting almost a complete Faraday cage around your RPi. There ir no way to avoid signal loss without drilling big holes or gaps in the metal itself which defies the purpose of a heatsink case in the first place.

@MrJaz8088

3 жыл бұрын

@@nialltracey2599 Wireless work fine as the embedded antenna which is etched into the board near the card reader is in the plastic bottom on both

@MrJaz8088

3 жыл бұрын

@@TomasLomba Wireless work fine as the embedded antenna which is etched into the board near the card reader is in the plastic bottom on both, its not a Faraday Cage as it's not fully metal, but your Tool Box could be

What case do you recommend for emulation?

I never knew my Flirc had a plastic bottom I had to get uyp and check LOL

In an earlier video you mentioned that you used a rotation app for Android. What app do you use?

I think cooling tests should have baseline, like a stock board without any cooling?

I am assuming using the RPi4 in the Neo case to act as an audio streamer for my stereo won't cause any issues with heat?

I got this case with the fan hat and power cord on amazon for 33 bucks, it works great with my overclocked rpi 4

@kountheaim

4 жыл бұрын

I wonder if you could share the link to purchase this case with fan.

@the415giant

4 жыл бұрын

Kounthea Im I just checked and it’s no longer available. But if you keep checking the amazon site it might reappear.

Is there a case that houses the pi 4b, internal battery of some kind, heatsink & fan, power switch, LCD screen, and maybe even a small SSD?

Do you know if there's an option to add a screen (gpio) just by removing the cover. Talking about clearance

I would have liked to see the neo tested without the cover on, and with the available fan and no cover. With only 1 degree between the two cases in your tests, the neo without the cover would likely be cooler than the flirc. With the fan and no cover, the neo would most certainly be cooler.

with the argon1 ver 2 w/o m.2 overclocked to 2 GH I get no higher then 54c. At that temp the fan don't kick in. I do have a question. How amps on the usb bus can handle before needing aneeding a powed hub?

How do you get that real time thermal screen? Is it from terminal?

Does the case work with any fan hat? I have the Melopero fan hat.

Does the aluminum case cripple WiFi and/or Bluetooth performance in any way?

Do you know how the Geekworm Raspberry Pi 4 Ultra-Thin CNC Aluminium Alloy Passive Cooling Case ( N300) compares to the Flirc and the Argon Neo? (I know the name is a mouthful). Because it had the avantage to have four screw holes for HATs contrary to the Neo having only two, but I don't about the quality of the case nor how well it is cooling a Pi4 nor how it affecte wifi and bluetooth beside Geekworm saying it doesn't degrade the signal.

I finally got the Neo Case delivered, The USB Controller and the other small chip do not make contact with the board, adding paste or a thermal pad don't do it, Its not too important, nice if it did, i was thinking that brass flat heatsink the one with the Pi etched into with paste might work, again not too important

had one for a few weeks and really like it, but it gets really hot

I considered both of those, but the RPi's wireless is already weak enough without putting it in a metal box.

@MrJaz8088

3 жыл бұрын

Wireless work fine as the embedded antenna which is etched into the board near the card reader is in the plastic bottom on both

@colintett6872

3 жыл бұрын

I have 3 Neo cases and 2 Argon 1’s, all with RPi 4’s, and have had no issues with wifi or bluetooth - I guess due to the plastic base.

@MrDavidBFoster

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrJaz8088 I guess it's all in how you define "fine". I wouldn't have said that Pi wireless works "fine" hanging naked in mid-air three feet from my router. I will say that I am impressed that it works at all, though, with just that little triangle for an antenna. Probably what messes with it the worst are my wireless keyboard dongles.

@MrJaz8088

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrDavidBFoster Maybe get a better Router, i have no problems at all with WiFi anywhere in the house or yard

@MrDavidBFoster

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrJaz8088 Neither do I. I have a TP-Link router.. Works just fine. What? You can't handle me saying RPi wireless has less than stellar performance? It DOES! It BARELY works! I have two pi cams.. one under the porch, the other in my workshop. Neither is more than 20 feet from the router. They go offline constantly. Mostly when the sun is out. My Amcrest cameras all work fine, except for the one in the back that has two refrigerators and a microwave between it and the router; and even IT is more dependable than the PIs. It's just the nature of the beast.

Can you make a video about lcd for raspberry pi

This channel is the emulation station

Off topic, the new raspberry rasbian buster can't overclock, know whats up?

It would be amazing a case compatible with ice tower.

I love my FLIRC case, currently I have no use for the RPI4 4GB (It's running Raspbian Buster Lite with Nginx hosting nothing ;) ) as I use an Odroid N2 as HTPC since Kodi can't handle 4K HEVC HDR yet.

@Ipeacocks

4 жыл бұрын

But can Android on Odroid N2 handle 4K HEVC HDR?

@lapptech

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ipeacocks Without even sweating, it works like a charm.

Does it overheat with the fan option?

Salve, una domanda, è indicato anche per raspberry 8 giga di ram?

flirc or neo for TV box?

you should get some lm2 and pour it in the dent on the flrit case and see what you could do for oc it even more...lol

i have a flirt case but now i am programming more with the gpio and using my p3 instead i will get that the neo for all the acces avalable.hard to get in canada

Es demasiada temperatura si se quiere usar para trabajos prolongados yo iría por la opción del ice tower

Are there any Pi alumunium case with built in power button and reset ?

@fravier10001

4 жыл бұрын

Argon One

A Bit of a Warning - With the GPIO pin's exposed, and if the Pi is On, Be-Careful not Arc the Cover on the Active Pin's. I think this should be on the box or in the manual

You can also see the pi led very clearly using this case, the bottom plastic is transplant black.

for my case one of the screw thread is alrd loose. cant get 1 screw in

Can you cover the news with the Delta Emulator?

Can i use poe hat with argon neo or argon one? :) And awesome video, keep them comming

@MrJaz8088

3 жыл бұрын

Neo - Yes, I will open the Argon One and will have a look

So the problem im having is im trying to find a case for the raspberry pi 4, the pisugar pro and a 4 in screen

nice, this is very handy

No power button... Why? The other Argon has one... Great review big boss!

@Tweak42

4 жыл бұрын

Cost. This is Argon's budget model.

This seems like a pretty good case if you want to use a Pi as a stand-alone unit for now but want to be able to re-purpose it later.

neo can add on Fan HAT, good then argon one

Wish someone would make a all copper case

@MichaelLargent

4 жыл бұрын

I feel like that would completely block the wifi and bt signal, but not entirely sure.

"You can use a card board and make a case" that one heart me really bad.

@MaxDad7

4 жыл бұрын

That's what I use for mine. That way I can use the 60mm fan and the large heatsink I put on the CPU, and the X820 HDD/SSD expansion board. There's no case that will fit all that stuff. It's good for prototyping to if you plan to make a 3D printed case later down the road.

@MrDavidBFoster

4 жыл бұрын

Duct Tape works too.

@drwhite7285

4 жыл бұрын

I didn't know your heart will hurt for using cardboard?

The trouble with using thermal paste if the case is designed to use a thermal pad is that they've probably allowed too much clearance... The thermal pads are typically 0.5-1mm thick. You'd need LOADS of thermal paste to bridge that gap!

@nialltracey2599

4 жыл бұрын

...and thermal paste is only designed to be applied in a thin layer and isn't very effective when applied thickly. (So they tell me.)

are they ever going to come out with the revision of the pi 4 that fixes the usb compliance?

At first I thought you said "passably cool" :-)

@theoldar

4 жыл бұрын

@@trickyrat483 I was hearing it as a comment on its appearance. It might not look great, but it's "passably cool" :-)

Well, not tested again about how it'll reduce the wifi/bluetooth sinal strengh. One of the benefits of the Flirc is the rubber cover, that doesn't block wifi/bluetooth.

@nialltracey2599

4 жыл бұрын

The rubber cover sits on top of the aluminium, so it's blocking plenty of wifi.

@rael_gc

4 жыл бұрын

@@nialltracey2599 So imagine the Argon, with 2 metal layers.

@nialltracey2599

4 жыл бұрын

Rael G.C. One of which can be taken off. Besides, without side-by-side testing of signal strength, it’s impossible to say which is better. And they both have plastic bottoms, so if you’re upstairs from the router they might both be fine.

@rael_gc

4 жыл бұрын

@@nialltracey2599 So, this is my complain: both should be compared about the wifi/bluetooth signal strenght. Last time I compared Flirc vs Biqu, Flirc was a WAY better (reducing the wifi less then Biqu, which required me to use an external dongle even use a bluetooth gamepad).

Pi is probably the only open source HARDWARE

There.are more compatible cases than campatible OS or front end for RPI 4...

ETA PRIME

What does ETA stand for?

@Tunerguy21

4 жыл бұрын

He mentioned this in a community post last year. Its in reference to the straight 6 engine in the E30 generation of the BMW 3-series. They are sometimes known as the ETA, Greek for efficiency.

what did you study to have this knowledge? I love how you know about these things

2:40 DO NOT USE THERMAL PASTE I tried thermal paste but the gap is too large, use the included thermal pads.

We need somebody to make Pi case that uses mineral oil. Just putting that out there......... :) ;)

@CigsInABlanket

4 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't sell well; won't happen. If you want your pie in mineral oil, grab some tupperware for cheap.

@clangerbasher

4 жыл бұрын

@@CigsInABlanket Do you know what :) ;) mean?

@CigsInABlanket

4 жыл бұрын

@@clangerbasher Something children use to communicate their emotions?

@clangerbasher

4 жыл бұрын

@@CigsInABlanket No. Something idiots don't understand but still reinforce that a comment was indeed as fatuous as it obviously seemed to persons with an IQ over 95.

@CigsInABlanket

4 жыл бұрын

@@clangerbasher So, because you use a couple emojis, in a childish manner, you believe that everyone knows you were being silly? Right, we're all the idiots here, hahahaha, you absolute fool.

ETA, I like your video and content and love this case. I ordered it. I assembled it. Because it turns all the ports to a right angle, 4 parts of the Pi have to fit into the adapter: Power, HDMIs, and volume jack. The GPIO pins also all have to seat themselves in a 'plug'. THAT part didn't happen easily for me, and I had to wiggle the board and case to get them to fit. It SHOULD have been an easy fit. It wasn't. I ended up returning the case to Amazon. Did anyone else experience this? Or has anyone had success installing this case with ease? Please let me know. I think I'd like to use this one and not a Flirc.

Amazon.CA: Argon Neo: $53cdn {from Canada} $30cdn {USA import} Flirc: $21cdn 🇨🇦

Mine doesn't snap closed evenly. (The bottom doesn't fit snugly.) Kinda crap.

@jason_v12345

Жыл бұрын

I think it's caused by the conductive pad

i bought the labists 8gb basic kit, promptly bought an argon one then saw argon one m.2 lol as cheap as the pi can be it sure hates my bank account

Anyone who says you "need" paste on a RPI probably likes to lick their fingers after putting the paste on. ;D

@spokehedz

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-yv2cz8oj1k No. The RPI doesn't get hot enough to 'need' paste. The thermal pad is plenty. You are just making your PI messy. Also, if I was 12--isn't that what these computers are aimed at? Stop gatekeeping. Sheesh.