ARE YOUR LED's REAL?? Samsung LM301H vs LM301B vs LM301D vs 2835 - How to tell Fake LED Grow Lights

#acinfinity #spiderfarmer #bloomplus
Samsung LED diodes are dominant in the grow space so companies are labeling their lights with Samsung diodes, LM301H or LM301B, and its super confusing. The best way to tell the difference between the diodes is to reference the images in the video.
Detective Work:
Vivosun VS3000 is not waterproof. WTF! This is where LM301H's matter
Famurs uses LM301D's and claim LM301H WTF!
LM301H EVO coming soon, but its literally only 1.2% more efficient. 7.5% more efficient than LM301B. To put this into numbers, Lets say you grow with a 300w light for 16 weeks total (7 weeks at 18 hours - veg, 9 weeks at 12 hours - bloom), this averages out to 14.625 hours per day for 112 days(a full grow), this equals 4.43 kWh per day, or 496.16 kWh per grow. To find how much your energy costs, go here: www.electricchoice.com/electr...
For me, this is $95.76 and NY is expensive, now take away 7%, that's $ 6.70 per grow. that I am saving from using LM301H diodes I mean most of the time LM301H lights are like $30 more than LM301B lights so you will need at least 4 grows for the math to add up. For me, it doesn't make much of a difference.
Now the difference in efficiency between LM301H and LM301D is 12.7% so now the amount of money you save on energy in the example above is $12.16, That's worth the $30 up charge so when companies make false claims, you're definitely getting duped and losing in the long run. These are the lights I have not only tested and reviewed, but actually grew with. Check the discord links for actual grow journals.
Spider Farmer SF2000: amzn.to/3xAidLP
Verified Grow: / discord
Bloom Plus XP4000: amzn.to/3GWbAGo
Verified Grow: / discord

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  • @MrKTDStudio
    @MrKTDStudio Жыл бұрын

    This video just saving my life. I buy a light that seller told me it is a samsung lm301h diodes but when i check it, it is not. Thank you so much!!!

  • @OGRadGrow
    @OGRadGrow2 жыл бұрын

    Great info

  • @bigpapa8635
    @bigpapa8635 Жыл бұрын

    What your opinion on the VOLT® FL-1 Full-Cycle LED Grow Light? They have it at a great price right now for 700 watts. He states that they use the 301B or Z. VOLT® FL-1 Full-Cycle LED Grow Light

  • @tonyb.5768
    @tonyb.57682 жыл бұрын

    Great Video ...Looking to get away from FF nutrients What do you recommend ? So many different nutrients lines...Thx

  • @HowWeedGrow

    @HowWeedGrow

    2 жыл бұрын

    If I really had to pick with no cap on price or shopping all around, it would be TPS silica, Dynagrow grow, flora micro and kool bloom, maybe some down to earth Langbeinite

  • @droidnick

    @droidnick

    Жыл бұрын

    What's wrong with Fox Farms?

  • @tonyb.5768

    @tonyb.5768

    Жыл бұрын

    Nothing wrong with FF just a lot more work mixing up stuff all the time. I tried gaia green muck easier and works great

  • @ashiha13
    @ashiha132 жыл бұрын

    Yo props for the vids. Not only do you bring precise information that clearly has some research time behind it, but you present it in a way that anyone can reasonably understand. most people don't bring enough science into this shit. With the lights, another thing to watch out for are products that are being offered, but then prices changed later after they pick up some reviews. I picked up a couple lights recently for $30 each (100w) that included Mean Well drivers and seemingly legit Samsung diodes based on the pics in your video. I checked them with a digital microscope. The drivers themselves are worth more. I verified legitimacy as much as I could.

  • @HowWeedGrow

    @HowWeedGrow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. That’s how it always goes. They actually give away or heavily discount initial reviews on Amazon to get their ratings up

  • @bravosixs1446

    @bravosixs1446

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HowWeedGrow By the way, yesterday I received the new sf4000. And it only has 1056 led. I hope it will be enough for me for 2.5x2.5

  • @bravosixs1446

    @bravosixs1446

    Жыл бұрын

    They have two new 2022 models with a different spread ?Because I knew that they spaced the LEDs and changed the driver, but not that they reduced the amount of LEDs

  • @77bubba00

    @77bubba00

    8 ай бұрын

    @@HowWeedGrow Yeah. Reviews can be sketchy. If there are less than a few hundred, I assume that many are from employees of the company or they are getting a special deal.

  • @raineman1118
    @raineman11183 ай бұрын

    Man I just want to know how many watts a 2835 uses, and what luminous output is in watts.

  • @JohnDoe-jj6wf
    @JohnDoe-jj6wf Жыл бұрын

    Def got lm301d diodes when they said they were b's but they have meanwell drivers and I got a mess of them for $12 each when the company dumped them lol. I'm not even mad really.

  • @davidwalker8627
    @davidwalker8627 Жыл бұрын

    What if you had 2 identical lights, one had samsung LEDs and a Meanwell driver, but has worse light distribution(XS1500). And the other had very even light distribution, but generic LEDs and driver(XS1500 pro). It will be 37.5 real watts per square foot either way, and both have a 3 year waranty.

  • @HowWeedGrow

    @HowWeedGrow

    Жыл бұрын

    I would go with the better LEDs. Just use stands even the canopy ppfds

  • @77bubba00
    @77bubba008 ай бұрын

    I just bought the Vivosun A200SE light. I asked Vivosun what diodes they are using. They said they are Everlight 2835. Less efficient than any of the Samsung 301 diodes. I had to ask them specifically for the model and version since others have asked and didn't get a complete answer. I'm seriously considering returning it before I use it. What's really sad is that the control system they have seems great. What do you think? Is it worth keeping, or should I get different lights and not use a control system?

  • @HowWeedGrow

    @HowWeedGrow

    8 ай бұрын

    I used their vs3000 with great results. But it’s definitely not as efficient energy wise. Black Friday is gonna have a ton of deals so I would probably return

  • @77bubba00

    @77bubba00

    8 ай бұрын

    @@HowWeedGrow Thanks for the info. I noticed that on Amazon they say the VS3000 diodes are LM301, but for some reason they don't like to mention the version. The B and H are the better ones. The D is the bottom of the barrel, and the 2835 used on the A200SE is even less efficient than the D. I think I'll return it and see what else is out there. It's too bad they got cheap on the diodes. The control system seems great!

  • @poortra160
    @poortra160 Жыл бұрын

    The efficiency of lm301h evo (b evo) is 230lm/w The efficiency of lm301b or h is 220lm/w The efficiency of lm301d is 210lm/w This applies when using 65mA per chip, 0.2w of power, which is the optimal efficiency range. Most of the 100w class 301b/h products use 0.5w of power per chip. It's hot and less efficient. This is why the PPE is measured lower than the chip's specifications. The price of 200W class 301D chip product is cheaper than 100W 301B/H product If you buy a 200W class 301D chip product and use it at 50-60% output, It can be used with much better power efficiency and lower temperature

  • @HowWeedGrow

    @HowWeedGrow

    Жыл бұрын

    Great info. What is your recommendations for lights in a 3x3,4x4 and 5x5?

  • @curiousbystander9193

    @curiousbystander9193

    3 ай бұрын

    so, 301d's are the way to go running 50-75% and dropping your lights a couple inches

  • @vandyniyomkham5032
    @vandyniyomkham50322 жыл бұрын

    lm301h evo are the most efficient now but not by much. original is 3.10 umol evo is 3.14

  • @HowWeedGrow

    @HowWeedGrow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. Not even worth the wait

  • @youngdean8825
    @youngdean8825 Жыл бұрын

    There will be 3.3 PPE soon! 😀 I'm developing it !

  • @RollTheWindowsUp_WISAD

    @RollTheWindowsUp_WISAD

    9 ай бұрын

    Cap. Send me some samples plz

  • @timturk1899

    @timturk1899

    8 ай бұрын

    Sounds close to the LM301H EVO's, now available. They may be 3.19 PPE, or a little more..?! Shane, of the MIGRO Channel, recently tested the first fixture putting out more than 3.0 PPE to the actual canopy itself! Not a "Light Sphere" test (I'm thinking 3.19 PPE, maybe more,.?). First fixture he's ever tested that topped 3.0 PPE, average! Maybe 10% more efficient Diodes available..?! I'll wait till these drop in price!👍💯✌️

  • @Spiderdan-59
    @Spiderdan-599 ай бұрын

    Good video thanks mate 🫡🌿🔥🇬🇧

  • @David_Crazy_Dron
    @David_Crazy_Dron Жыл бұрын

    Jajaja. Reales, son todos. Lo que hace falta saber, es cuáles son AUTÉNTICOS. jaaajajajaja. Saludos

  • @PedroBarberam
    @PedroBarberam Жыл бұрын

    Samsung diods are super cheap cost 0,10c led not expensive até ALL mean well drivers are cheap too But led companies claim ALL of that IS too expensive ... need tô gain more money merchandising and The lay influencers KZreadrs with equipaments to sell products not diferent of Premium brands they want you tô pay more money.... Testinga a chinese Quantum board for 80bucks and um prety surprised mesures shows Very good results

  • @HowWeedGrow

    @HowWeedGrow

    Жыл бұрын

    Longevity is key. If you could find me a generic that lasts longer than 3 years, fine

  • @growersplus
    @growersplus2 жыл бұрын

    I think they bloom pluses use bs.

  • @HowWeedGrow

    @HowWeedGrow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nah. Check this current grow journal. discord.gg/nwDXKeBV4g Also grew 4 hydro plants that had pretty much 30% THC. It was with Bloom Plus Lights

  • @growersplus

    @growersplus

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@HowWeedGrow I got one also Andi love them. At first I thought they said h too but now they say b.

  • @HowWeedGrow

    @HowWeedGrow

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@growersplus oh I thought you were saying the LEDs were BS(bullsh*t). But yeah mine are H’s. They went back to B’s due to supply issues, but 5% isn’t enough for me not to get it again

  • @growersplus

    @growersplus

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@HowWeedGrow oh you mean they used l's at one point? I bought my light last year how could I tell if they are hs or bs

  • @HowWeedGrow

    @HowWeedGrow

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@growersplus you can’t tell the difference between H’s and B’s, the only way to tell is to look at the back of the chips and there’s an X. Mine was the initial drop of the lights which were H’s and they went backwards

  • @lightworker17
    @lightworker17 Жыл бұрын

    moso is faaaar from the best driver brand,it aint even in the top 5

  • @HowWeedGrow

    @HowWeedGrow

    Жыл бұрын

    I bet you can’t Name 4 better

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